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  • - God calls us to be one,
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  • united through His unconditional love.
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  • Yet, we can still find ourselves divided and hurting.
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  • Today we're talking about what it truly means
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  • to be better together.
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  • (inspirational music)
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  • - I'm gonna start with unity.
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  • - Yeah.
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  • - Unity, why is unity so important?
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  • What does unity mean?
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  • I'm gonna read a Scripture first
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  • and then I want you girls to jump in.
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  • The Scripture is Ephesians 4:2-3, it says,
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  • "With all lowliness and gentleness, with long suffering,"
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  • our favorite word,
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  • - Help us Lord.
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  • - "bearing with one another in love,
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  • "endeavoring to keep the unity of the Spirit
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  • "in the bond of peace."
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  • - Yeah.
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  • - Ephesians 4:15, "But speaking the truth in love,
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  • "may grow up in all things
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  • "into Him who is the head, Christ."
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  • So what does unity,
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  • what does unity mean to you?
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  • - Power.
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  • - Exactly.
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  • (laughter)
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  • - Good, good, good, what about you?
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  • - I think diversity is unity,
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  • you can't have one without the other.
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  • - Jan?
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  • - I think unity is
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  • living real life together.
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  • - Yes.
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  • - It's not a program, it's not a gathering,
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  • it's a consistent gathering and living together.
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  • - Yeah.
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  • - Yeah, ya know one of my first Bible verses
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  • that I ever learned in my Christian school,
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  • the very first one was,
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  • "My brethren, how lovely and how pleasant,
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  • how good and how pleasant it is
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  • for brethren to dwell together in unity."
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  • And then when you think about unity, you know,
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  • Acts 2 is when they were all of one mind, all of one accord,
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  • they were in unity, then the Holy Spirit came.
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  • - The power of the Holy Spirit.
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  • - Yes, yes.
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  • - And that is what we're doing right here.
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  • - Right.
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  • - And from this platform,
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  • this little platform of us five friends,
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  • that's what we believe in,
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  • that's what we're doing and we will continue to do this.
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  • - That's good, that's good.
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  • - What's interesting about that Scripture,
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  • is they had everything in common.
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  • There was something about the way they were choosing to live
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  • in Acts 2 that created that unity,
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  • and I think that's where we have to peer in,
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  • is they were choosing to have everything in common.
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  • - Yeah.
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  • - And that's actually not necessarily the American way,
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  • and it scares me.
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  • (laughter)
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  • Because I grew up with aspirations,
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  • and ideas about what life would be,
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  • but if we're gonna live in unity
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  • and have everything in common, what does that mean?
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  • - What does that look like?
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  • - And how do we celebrate and honor each other
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  • when we disagree?
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  • I mean I think that's a big one
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  • because I think there are a lot of things
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  • people may not agree on,
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  • and I don't think there's anything wrong with that,
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  • as long as we honor each other, hear from each other,
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  • talk through it, and you know,
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  • you can't talk to everybody you'd like to talk to,
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  • about, you know,
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  • different things that you're passionate about,
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  • but I think if you give people the benefit
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  • of the doubt, ya know,
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  • my father-in-law Bill says,
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  • "Celebrate who people are
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  • "over stumbling over who they're not."
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  • - That's good.
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  • - And if we just have that to give,
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  • I mean I don't know your heart
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  • but I'm gonna think the best of you.
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  • - The best of you.
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  • - And I can learn a lot from you, ya know,
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  • I think that that just gets you a long way.
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  • - We already know that we look different,
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  • we can't actually change the fact that we look different.
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  • But what we are called to be is like-minded in Christ,
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  • and that's actually the hard part, is to be like-minded,
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  • and figure out what that looks like in different situations.
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  • It's not always easy
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  • and I don't think that it always means agreeing,
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  • but I do think that it means coming to it
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  • with the perspective of our Lord,
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  • and less of the perspective that we get from society.
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  • And that's everybody, and that's not easy because,
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  • you know, we are socialized in the smallest of ways,
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  • and we don't even realize that it's kinda like
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  • when you travel to another country and you realize
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  • some of the things that you do that are just very
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  • unique to your culture.
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  • We're gonna have to figure out how to find Jesus in that,
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  • and gather around that, 'cause we definitely look different.
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  • (laughs)
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  • - And unity isn't uniformity.
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  • - Yes.
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  • (laughter)
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  • - Right, we're not gonna look the same.
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  • - Thank God!
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  • - Thank God, I'd hate looking at me all day, you know?
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  • (laughter)
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  • - Well let me ask you this, does unity naturally happen?
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  • - Oh, it's a choice.
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  • - Yes.
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  • - It's a choice, you know in Ecclesiastes it says,
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  • "Two are better off than one,"
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  • and that's not just talking about the marriage relationship,
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  • that's talking about with family, with the neighbors,
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  • to help each other succeed, ya know,
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  • and that's what God wants us to do,
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  • He wants us to succeed together.
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  • - Yeah.
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  • - Not one succeeding and one not,
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  • but He wants us to succeed together.
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  • When one falls, there's one to pick him up.
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  • - Yes.
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  • - You have to be in unity to pick someone up.
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  • You have to be close to them, you have to take hold of them,
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  • ya know, and so I think so often
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  • we're looking after ourselves, we get busy,
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  • we're looking after ourselves.
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  • But, you know,
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  • life is really more fulfilled when we're living,
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  • - For someone else.
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  • - On the outside, not always just inward looking.
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  • And so I think unity is a spectacular thing because,
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  • man, when you're helping someone else achieve,
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  • you know that's when you're going to be the most fulfilled.
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  • - Yeah, it is.
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  • - And also God is such an amazing God,
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  • that's a seed you're sowing.
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  • - Right.
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  • - So in your time of need when you need to be picked up,
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  • God's gonna have someone there for you.
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  • - Bearing each other's burdens.
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  • - Yes, that's what unity is about,
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  • it's not me being better than you,
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  • it's about me reaching out to you.
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  • - Yes.
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  • - Right, right, so we have to be intentional about unifying
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  • or else it will not happen.
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  • - To be on the lookout for those that you can help.
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  • - Yeah.
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  • - You know, those who need a hand, who need to be picked up.
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  • - Yeah.
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  • - I think living out an attitude of being better together
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  • is a lifestyle because A: you have to know
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  • that you need people, and you just can't rely on Jesus,
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  • although He is our everything,
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  • He created us to need people
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  • as part of our human experience,
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  • so to be better together you have to recognize your need
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  • for God and your need for others.
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  • - The sad thing is the enemy knows what unity will do.
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  • - Right.
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  • - And us as believers, the body of believers,
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  • sometimes forget the purpose of unity
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  • and why the enemy wants to keep us separated.
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  • It doesn't mean that you're even mad at one another,
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  • but it's like, do you really know me?
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  • - Yeah.
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  • - Are we really being intentional
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  • to really care for one another,
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  • to pray for one another?
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  • - And that's where we can all do better.
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  • There is a higher way for everybody, and so you've got to,
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  • I've had to just kinda pull back and say,
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  • "This is the body of Christ,
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  • and we live in His kingdom,
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  • and for division or anything to take part
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  • in the body of Christ, we are called
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  • to come out of all of our boxes.
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  • - Right.
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  • - Yeah.
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  • - Ya know, God's not in a white box,
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  • He's not in a black box,
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  • He doesn't live in Washington, D.C.,
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  • He's not an American.
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  • - Right.
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  • - Ya know, God is God all by Himself,
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  • and He has a kingdom and He has a family of God,
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  • and that is what we fight for.
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  • - Yes.
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  • - We fight in faith for each other,
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  • I think the world is gonna get darker,
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  • and I think it's gonna get more evil in the end times.
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  • But the body of Christ has to be whole in itself,
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  • and we live under a new kingdom, and as He is,
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  • so are we in this world.
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  • - Right.
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  • - And we're brothers and sisters.
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  • - Yeah, and I think we fight with our identity in Christ,
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  • we gotta know what that is, that is what unifies us,
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  • that's the one umbrella that we're all under,
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  • and it means, like every other facet of life,
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  • every other facet of sanctification,
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  • bringing everything outside of that under the cross,
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  • to line up with the plumb line of who Christ is,
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  • and what He has said, what He has done,
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  • what His Word says, and then we'll find our common ground.
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  • - Yeah, to become more kingdom minded,
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  • I think we need to be more aware
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  • of what God has done for us,
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  • and the fact that He's reconciled us to Himself
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  • and so when you've been given much,
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  • you know much is required, and so I believe
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  • that we need to pay attention to one another,
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  • pay attention to our needs, to others' needs.
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  • I believe that when we are more aware of our brothers
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  • and our sisters, we'll be more kingdom minded
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  • in a positive direction.
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  • - When I think of my own life, I mean, I'm guilty.
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  • So you said something about coming out of our boxes,
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  • and we can get so busy, I've been so busy,
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  • in times past, with my own life, and I love God,
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  • and my children love God, and I'm focused on my church,
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  • but I believe as a member of the body of Christ,
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  • we have a responsibility to grow our capacity
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  • to be more aware of the whole body.
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  • - Yes.
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  • - And how can I actually make a change?
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  • - Yes.
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  • - Is it I'm gonna listen more, or I'm gonna reach out more,
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  • pray for people more,
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  • go and sit with somebody that I've never sat with before,
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  • and say, "Tell me about your life," you know?
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  • - Yeah.
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  • - I think we really have to come up with some
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  • practical things that we can do as believers,
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  • because we all love God, we all love one another,
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  • but we still sense the lack of unity.
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  • - Yes.
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  • - In the body of Christ.
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  • So what do we do as leaders, as people who have platforms,
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  • what can we do differently in our everyday lives
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  • to add to that unity?
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  • - I would say where are the squeaky wheels, right now,
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  • in the body of Christ.
  • 00:11:07.220 --> 00:11:09.060
  • Like where are we hearing the lack of unity most
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  • in our churches, and I would say we might need
  • 00:11:12.110 --> 00:11:16.230
  • to educate ourselves on both sides of the conversation,
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  • where the wheel is squeaky,
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  • and see if there are people in the church
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  • that feel a certain way that we don't feel,
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  • let me peer into why you feel that way,
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  • because you're valuable to me.
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  • - Right.
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  • - You know, like a family member.
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  • I may not understand what you're going through,
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  • but tell me more about how you feel,
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  • and that way that gets the conversation going.
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  • And we kinda all know where the squeaky wheels might be,
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  • you know what I mean?
  • 00:11:48.270 --> 00:11:49.290
  • - Totally.
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  • - And where we can peer in some more.
  • 00:11:51.080 --> 00:11:52.250
  • - Us talking together, this is where we all have found,
  • 00:11:52.250 --> 00:11:55.080
  • we had a huge dinner last night and in that community,
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  • in that talking and in that communicating,
  • 00:11:59.140 --> 00:12:01.280
  • you were talking about, is when we start learning,
  • 00:12:01.280 --> 00:12:04.130
  • and that's when we really start feeling,
  • 00:12:04.130 --> 00:12:06.070
  • and when we just start listening and that brings life.
  • 00:12:06.070 --> 00:12:11.070
  • - Yes.
  • 00:12:11.210 --> 00:12:12.270
  • - That just is giving life to all of us,
  • 00:12:12.270 --> 00:12:15.020
  • and the need for more love, the need just to listen more,
  • 00:12:15.020 --> 00:12:20.020
  • to come on, let's go this way,
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  • we're gonna do this together.
  • 00:12:23.100 --> 00:12:26.110
  • - Yeah.
  • 00:12:26.110 --> 00:12:27.120
  • - And I just think that's the power of unity.
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  • - You know if you think about how birds fly in formation,
  • 00:12:32.140 --> 00:12:35.290
  • and those birds are not all exact,
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  • but they fly in formation
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  • because it's like 40 percent easier on them to fly,
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  • to cut through the wind and not to struggle.
  • 00:12:45.070 --> 00:12:48.180
  • - That's right.
  • 00:12:48.180 --> 00:12:50.040
  • - And so when one gets off, they're struggling over here,
  • 00:12:50.040 --> 00:12:52.280
  • so we have to kinda think about that, like,
  • 00:12:52.280 --> 00:12:56.070
  • you know what, it's not about being identical,
  • 00:12:56.070 --> 00:13:00.040
  • but it's about supporting
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  • and flying towards Christ together.
  • 00:13:01.270 --> 00:13:04.130
  • - Beautiful, I'm sure.
  • 00:13:04.130 --> 00:13:05.270
  • - And it's easy for us to see what's wrong,
  • 00:13:05.270 --> 00:13:10.030
  • that doesn't take a person of faith.
  • 00:13:10.030 --> 00:13:12.020
  • - Yeah.
  • 00:13:12.020 --> 00:13:13.000
  • - It takes a person of faith
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  • to say let's find out what's right.
  • 00:13:14.080 --> 00:13:16.070
  • - Totally.
  • 00:13:16.070 --> 00:13:17.070
  • - Let's agree on what's right.
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  • - Right.
  • 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:20.010
  • - Let's come over here and how can I help you.
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  • Put all the other stuff aside,
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  • what is it, how can I listen to you,
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  • how can I encourage you,
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  • how can I be a support to you?
  • 00:13:28.190 --> 00:13:30.090
  • - Yeah.
  • 00:13:30.090 --> 00:13:31.150
  • - You know we can't fix anyone else,
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  • we can only fix ourself,
  • 00:13:32.180 --> 00:13:34.020
  • and if we make the mandate and the choice to say,
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  • "You know what, I want to be an imitator of Christ."
  • 00:13:36.130 --> 00:13:39.070
  • - Yes.
  • 00:13:39.070 --> 00:13:40.220
  • - What would Christ, you remember those bracelets?
  • 00:13:40.220 --> 00:13:42.050
  • (overlapping talk)
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  • (laughter)
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  • - What would Jesus Do.
  • 00:13:48.160 --> 00:13:49.230
  • - That's right, that's the answer.
  • 00:13:49.230 --> 00:13:51.000
  • - And it's just a reminder to go,
  • 00:13:51.000 --> 00:13:52.030
  • "Okay, settle down, calm down."
  • 00:13:52.030 --> 00:13:54.290
  • - You know I think if Jesus prayed,
  • 00:13:54.290 --> 00:13:57.120
  • "God let them be one, even as You and I are one,"
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  • that that should be our prayer today.
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  • That we become one, and the only way we're gonna do that
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  • is through love, through grace,
  • 00:14:08.250 --> 00:14:11.280
  • - We are creating a community built on love and friendship
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  • and we want you to join us.
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  • - Connect with us at @bettertogethertv
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  • and share your thoughts on today's conversation.
  • 00:14:22.220 --> 00:14:24.290
  • - We can't wait to hear from you.
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  • - And a lot of times we hear,
  • 00:14:29.220 --> 00:14:31.100
  • what would Jesus do, and it's like well, you know,
  • 00:14:31.100 --> 00:14:33.290
  • sometimes Jesus turned over tables,
  • 00:14:33.290 --> 00:14:36.040
  • and sometimes Jesus, and I'm like yeah
  • 00:14:36.040 --> 00:14:38.030
  • but that was still a conversation, that was with people.
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  • - Let's go have dinner.
  • 00:14:42.160 --> 00:14:44.130
  • - That wasn't a removed situation,
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  • that was a face to face conversation.
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  • I think the internet has really changed life
  • 00:14:47.050 --> 00:14:50.070
  • and experience for us, the internet has changed it.
  • 00:14:50.070 --> 00:14:52.140
  • And it's incredible because it's a major good,
  • 00:14:52.140 --> 00:14:55.100
  • I mean the way that you can encourage someone,
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  • the way that you can write a verse online
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  • and it's seen worldwide,
  • 00:15:00.030 --> 00:15:01.180
  • I mean it's fascinating how God is using social media
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  • and the internet, but it is painful
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  • when it comes to confrontation
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  • because you can't talk to the person.
  • 00:15:08.000 --> 00:15:10.100
  • And what Jesus did was He was addressing things
  • 00:15:10.100 --> 00:15:13.000
  • face to face, and man it is incredible what happens
  • 00:15:13.000 --> 00:15:16.080
  • when we just, even in hard times,
  • 00:15:16.080 --> 00:15:17.260
  • I know even with our community, we pastor a big group,
  • 00:15:17.260 --> 00:15:21.140
  • and when something goes down that effects a few people,
  • 00:15:21.140 --> 00:15:26.060
  • one thing that we have just found is instead of trying
  • 00:15:26.060 --> 00:15:28.050
  • to listen to one person and deal with it,
  • 00:15:28.050 --> 00:15:30.120
  • we call the people involved and say,
  • 00:15:30.120 --> 00:15:31.200
  • "Okay, talk to me, let's get together,
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  • "tell me how you're doing, tell me how it's effected you."
  • 00:15:33.270 --> 00:15:36.240
  • And just hearing, it's amazing it dissolves the enmity,
  • 00:15:38.070 --> 00:15:42.290
  • it dissolves the pain when you can just face to face.
  • 00:15:42.290 --> 00:15:46.150
  • There's a verse that jumped off the page,
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  • when Paul was writing letters to the churches,
  • 00:15:48.170 --> 00:15:50.050
  • he said in one of the letters,
  • 00:15:50.050 --> 00:15:51.220
  • "I have more to speak to you about, but what I need to say
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  • needs to happen face to face."
  • 00:15:54.080 --> 00:15:55.140
  • - Face to face, that's good.
  • 00:15:55.140 --> 00:15:56.290
  • - And that I feel like is a key with us in this hour,
  • 00:15:56.290 --> 00:16:00.030
  • with unity, is we've gotta have to have some face to face,
  • 00:16:00.030 --> 00:16:03.020
  • we've gotta have some tough love conversations,
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  • and in love, truth in love.
  • 00:16:05.250 --> 00:16:08.160
  • - That to me is the key, the turning over the tables
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  • reminds me that we can't be afraid of it being messy
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  • or emotional, because a lot of people aren't comfortable
  • 00:16:16.060 --> 00:16:18.270
  • with Jesus being emotional in that minute.
  • 00:16:18.270 --> 00:16:22.220
  • But the reality is, speaking about unity, He was upset,
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  • because what people were doing, society and how people
  • 00:16:29.030 --> 00:16:32.160
  • had decided to make money meant that certain people
  • 00:16:32.160 --> 00:16:35.290
  • were left out of the experience, and at the end of the day
  • 00:16:35.290 --> 00:16:40.150
  • He's coming against the effects of society that cause
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  • discrimination, and that create a disunity,
  • 00:16:44.280 --> 00:16:48.090
  • and it's so messy, and we realize that He's more upset
  • 00:16:48.090 --> 00:16:53.090
  • with the church doing that then He is with Rome.
  • 00:16:54.210 --> 00:16:57.020
  • And that really is such a message to us,
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  • like the only time our Lord flips over tables
  • 00:16:59.140 --> 00:17:02.260
  • that we know of is when the body of Christ isn't watching
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  • to make sure that society's prejudices
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  • don't come into the temple,
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  • and that's the hard conversation,
  • 00:17:12.130 --> 00:17:14.220
  • it's gonna be messy, it's gonna be emotional,
  • 00:17:14.220 --> 00:17:17.260
  • but we don't have to be afraid
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  • because our Lord has already gone before us.
  • 00:17:19.080 --> 00:17:21.220
  • And He's made sure that we know the important thing
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  • is that this body knows that My Father's house
  • 00:17:25.060 --> 00:17:28.160
  • is gonna be one of prayer,
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  • and we're not gonna let this stuff come in here.
  • 00:17:30.100 --> 00:17:32.170
  • - Yeah.
  • 00:17:32.170 --> 00:17:33.120
  • - He said, what was it,
  • 00:17:33.120 --> 00:17:34.170
  • "The love for your temple burns within me.
  • 00:17:34.170 --> 00:17:37.260
  • "The love for the church," His love for the church,
  • 00:17:37.260 --> 00:17:42.030
  • He says, "burns within me."
  • 00:17:42.030 --> 00:17:43.270
  • - Yes.
  • 00:17:43.270 --> 00:17:45.110
  • - And He was showing us that we have to, as a church,
  • 00:17:45.110 --> 00:17:48.150
  • find a way to come together, with our differences.
  • 00:17:48.150 --> 00:17:52.290
  • - Yes.
  • 00:17:52.290 --> 00:17:54.070
  • - With our different ways we were raised,
  • 00:17:54.070 --> 00:17:56.130
  • different perception, how can we come together,
  • 00:17:56.130 --> 00:17:59.200
  • and I think it's just like you said,
  • 00:17:59.200 --> 00:18:02.270
  • listening, caring, deciding that it's more important
  • 00:18:02.270 --> 00:18:07.010
  • for me to listen to you and more important
  • 00:18:07.010 --> 00:18:10.130
  • for me to be together with you than separated from you.
  • 00:18:10.130 --> 00:18:13.120
  • - Yeah.
  • 00:18:13.120 --> 00:18:14.200
  • - So true, when we come together, I know for me,
  • 00:18:14.200 --> 00:18:17.090
  • when I get to know someone I've never known before,
  • 00:18:17.090 --> 00:18:21.010
  • I get to see God in a whole new way.
  • 00:18:22.050 --> 00:18:23.180
  • - Totally.
  • 00:18:23.180 --> 00:18:24.130
  • - So whenever we cut off,
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  • I've been blessed throughout my whole career.
  • 00:18:27.050 --> 00:18:30.020
  • I started out on PTL Club, right, all white people.
  • 00:18:31.150 --> 00:18:34.270
  • (group laughs)
  • 00:18:34.270 --> 00:18:36.030
  • I had never sang with all white people.
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  • First time we sang in front of a white crowd I was like,
  • 00:18:37.190 --> 00:18:40.010
  • "Oh they don't like us at all,"
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  • 'cause we grew up with the audience saying,
  • 00:18:41.290 --> 00:18:44.020
  • "Sing it, you better sing it!"
  • 00:18:44.020 --> 00:18:46.030
  • (group laughs)
  • 00:18:46.030 --> 00:18:47.150
  • "You better sing that song!"
  • 00:18:47.150 --> 00:18:48.100
  • - Talking back.
  • 00:18:48.100 --> 00:18:49.170
  • - Yeah, talking back, they were talking back,
  • 00:18:49.170 --> 00:18:51.120
  • and I was like, we started singing, they was like,
  • 00:18:51.120 --> 00:18:53.090
  • I said, "Aw man, I hope we're having a good time,
  • 00:18:53.090 --> 00:18:55.200
  • "because they're not."
  • 00:18:55.200 --> 00:18:57.070
  • (group laughs)
  • 00:18:57.070 --> 00:18:59.140
  • But they were weeping and afterwards they came
  • 00:18:59.140 --> 00:19:01.200
  • and they told us how much they were blessed,
  • 00:19:01.200 --> 00:19:03.140
  • and I was probably about 16, 17 years old,
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  • and so I've been privileged to embrace the world
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  • and be able to see all the different parts of the body,
  • 00:19:12.290 --> 00:19:15.060
  • and it is such a blessing.
  • 00:19:16.050 --> 00:19:18.160
  • When we don't take out the time to embrace
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  • and learn about one another, we miss out on God.
  • 00:19:21.080 --> 00:19:24.080
  • - Yeah.
  • 00:19:24.080 --> 00:19:25.230
  • - I think celebrating our differences unifies us.
  • 00:19:25.230 --> 00:19:30.090
  • God created us all differently.
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  • He gave us different personalities,
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  • different ways to worship and praise Him,
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  • and when we celebrate one another,
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  • we embrace our brothers and our sisters,
  • 00:19:41.130 --> 00:19:44.200
  • and it brings a powerful unified sound that pleases God.
  • 00:19:44.200 --> 00:19:49.200
  • - Sometimes I think the enemy tells me,
  • 00:19:52.090 --> 00:19:55.120
  • "You don't have the answers."
  • 00:19:57.090 --> 00:19:59.110
  • - Yeah.
  • 00:20:00.270 --> 00:20:02.050
  • - We don't know how to fix the world in this,
  • 00:20:02.050 --> 00:20:04.130
  • the heart issue, the feelings,
  • 00:20:04.130 --> 00:20:08.020
  • so just don't talk about it.
  • 00:20:08.020 --> 00:20:11.180
  • - Right.
  • 00:20:11.180 --> 00:20:12.160
  • - That's the enemy, yeah.
  • 00:20:12.160 --> 00:20:13.100
  • - You know, because,
  • 00:20:13.100 --> 00:20:15.090
  • I'm being as vulnerable as I could possibly be,
  • 00:20:15.090 --> 00:20:18.190
  • in God's kingdom we are all sons and daughters,
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  • there is no difference, we all need God's grace,
  • 00:20:23.110 --> 00:20:27.010
  • we all need His love, we're all the same,
  • 00:20:27.010 --> 00:20:29.110
  • we're all His children.
  • 00:20:29.110 --> 00:20:30.230
  • - Right.
  • 00:20:30.230 --> 00:20:31.180
  • - All children of God.
  • 00:20:31.180 --> 00:20:33.040
  • - Everything that He's got is for every single one of us.
  • 00:20:33.040 --> 00:20:36.000
  • So you don't know how to fix that evil problem,
  • 00:20:36.000 --> 00:20:39.210
  • so we can just say,
  • 00:20:42.200 --> 00:20:43.280
  • "You know what, that does not have anything
  • 00:20:43.280 --> 00:20:48.100
  • "to do with the kingdom of God," but it does.
  • 00:20:48.100 --> 00:20:51.050
  • - Right, and I have a friend who lives life in a wheelchair.
  • 00:20:51.050 --> 00:20:56.020
  • Is she made whole in Christ?
  • 00:20:56.020 --> 00:20:58.230
  • Absolutely.
  • 00:20:58.230 --> 00:21:00.150
  • Will I let the door drop on my friend,
  • 00:21:00.150 --> 00:21:02.280
  • will we go through it in her chair
  • 00:21:02.280 --> 00:21:06.010
  • while walking through life?
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  • No, you know what I mean,
  • 00:21:08.190 --> 00:21:11.080
  • we live in dual realities right now,
  • 00:21:11.080 --> 00:21:16.020
  • and we're remembering a place that we've never been
  • 00:21:16.020 --> 00:21:20.000
  • with a culture that we have to constantly be reminded of
  • 00:21:20.000 --> 00:21:23.100
  • in that Word, and we have to acknowledge the chair.
  • 00:21:23.100 --> 00:21:28.100
  • - Yeah.
  • 00:21:29.260 --> 00:21:30.200
  • - Totally.
  • 00:21:31.170 --> 00:21:32.160
  • - You know what I mean?
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  • - You can't pretend it doesn't exist.
  • 00:21:33.240 --> 00:21:35.020
  • - Can't pretend it doesn't exist.
  • 00:21:35.020 --> 00:21:36.180
  • - And that is what, that's exactly what you're saying,
  • 00:21:36.180 --> 00:21:37.250
  • sometimes you don't know what to do,
  • 00:21:37.250 --> 00:21:38.240
  • you don't know what to say.
  • 00:21:38.240 --> 00:21:39.110
  • - Yes.
  • 00:21:39.110 --> 00:21:40.060
  • - So you stay quiet.
  • 00:21:40.060 --> 00:21:40.240
  • - Yeah.
  • 00:21:40.240 --> 00:21:41.230
  • - Because it's not in my world.
  • 00:21:41.230 --> 00:21:43.190
  • - Right.
  • 00:21:43.190 --> 00:21:44.230
  • - I don't, I don't see it.
  • 00:21:44.230 --> 00:21:46.160
  • - Right, it's not in your heart, right.
  • 00:21:46.160 --> 00:21:47.140
  • - It's not in your heart, yeah.
  • 00:21:47.140 --> 00:21:49.040
  • But reaching out and saying like,
  • 00:21:49.040 --> 00:21:51.140
  • "Okay, I acknowledge this pain, I acknowledge,
  • 00:21:51.140 --> 00:21:55.260
  • "how do I help?"
  • 00:21:55.260 --> 00:21:57.000
  • - That's awesome.
  • 00:21:57.000 --> 00:21:58.130
  • - How do I help, and I think really that's probably
  • 00:21:58.130 --> 00:22:01.050
  • the cry of most hearts.
  • 00:22:01.050 --> 00:22:03.030
  • I think people don't know what to say, they fear offending.
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  • - Yes.
  • 00:22:06.050 --> 00:22:07.030
  • - And so I say nothing because
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  • - Rather not say nothing to offend you.
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  • - Because nothing I say
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  • is gonna be taken right by everybody.
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  • - And so that fear has to go,
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  • we have to destroy that fear, and be willing to,
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  • like you said, give grace, and be able to,
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  • we have to humble ourselves and be willing to listen.
  • 00:22:18.230 --> 00:22:21.100
  • - Yeah.
  • 00:22:21.100 --> 00:22:22.170
  • - And it means that everybody on all sides
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  • has a distance to travel,
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  • everybody has their own distance,
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  • no matter what direction you're coming from,
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  • or how far you have to go, everybody has distance.
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  • Whether it's no more fear,
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  • or deciding we're not gonna shame people for not knowing,
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  • or deciding, all the things that have to be decided,
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  • everybody has a distance to travel.
  • 00:22:44.180 --> 00:22:46.210
  • - Right.
  • 00:22:46.210 --> 00:22:47.190
  • - And it's been modeled for us.
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  • - And that is grace.
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  • - Yeah.
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  • - That is grace for each other, I love what you said,
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  • there is no shame, no shame there's just grace,
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  • and some of us might have to travel further than others
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  • because of the lenses that people have worn,
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  • people that grow up in things.
  • 00:23:03.180 --> 00:23:05.040
  • - Yep, their experiences, yeah.
  • 00:23:05.040 --> 00:23:07.040
  • Everybody's distance is different,
  • 00:23:07.040 --> 00:23:09.040
  • you know but the thing that motivates it to come forward
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  • is love, it's coming from the right place.
  • 00:23:13.020 --> 00:23:17.240
  • You might not always say the right thing.
  • 00:23:17.240 --> 00:23:19.130
  • - Yeah, sure.
  • 00:23:19.130 --> 00:23:20.240
  • - And then you say, "I'm sorry."
  • 00:23:20.240 --> 00:23:21.290
  • - And you say, "I'm sorry," right.
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  • - How can I make that better next time?
  • 00:23:25.100 --> 00:23:27.090
  • - But like you said, I think we all realize that it's
  • 00:23:27.090 --> 00:23:29.020
  • only the enemy that wants to keep us silenced.
  • 00:23:29.020 --> 00:23:31.090
  • - Totally.
  • 00:23:31.090 --> 00:23:32.040
  • - Right?
  • 00:23:32.040 --> 00:23:33.090
  • - He wants to divide and conquer.
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  • - Honestly, and silence.
  • 00:23:35.110 --> 00:23:36.250
  • - He knows that the promise of God says that there's
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  • a commanded blessing on unity,
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  • and when that day comes, you know what,
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  • no telling what's gonna happen, the sky's gonna bust open.
  • 00:23:47.270 --> 00:23:51.130
  • - Party time.
  • 00:23:51.130 --> 00:23:53.010
  • - Yeah, because there's a commanded blessing on unity,
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  • and you know, I just really think that it starts
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  • in our personal life.
  • 00:23:58.270 --> 00:23:59.290
  • - Yeah.
  • 00:23:59.290 --> 00:24:01.060
  • - You know it starts in our homes,
  • 00:24:01.060 --> 00:24:03.000
  • it starts, you know with our families, our neighbors.
  • 00:24:03.000 --> 00:24:05.260
  • - That's it.
  • 00:24:05.260 --> 00:24:07.100
  • - Out to our community and then it builds because
  • 00:24:07.100 --> 00:24:08.260
  • until we have a heart of unity in saying,
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  • "You know what, I'd rather do what's right than be right,"
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  • you know then that's how it's gonna start.
  • 00:24:16.040 --> 00:24:18.240
  • - That's true and I think, again,
  • 00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:21.140
  • going back to the What Would Jesus Do bracelet is so simple.
  • 00:24:21.140 --> 00:24:23.260
  • - I'm gonna get you one.
  • 00:24:23.260 --> 00:24:26.030
  • (group laughs)
  • 00:24:26.030 --> 00:24:27.170
  • - It's so simple, yeah it's time to pull them all out again,
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  • but He was our greatest example, He is our greatest example,
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  • and so even when it looks impossible to us,
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  • all we have to do is look at Him, and like you said,
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  • follow Him, how did He do it,
  • 00:24:39.270 --> 00:24:43.180
  • and that is loving one another and taking out the time,
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  • meeting people where they are, not judging people,
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  • because love conquers everything.
  • 00:24:50.250 --> 00:24:54.040
  • - Yes.
  • 00:24:54.040 --> 00:24:55.100
  • - Love conquers all, and on our watch
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  • that's what we're gonna do, we're gonna love.
  • 00:24:58.000 --> 00:25:01.020
  • - Conquers and covers.
  • 00:25:01.020 --> 00:25:02.110
  • - Love love love.
  • 00:25:03.070 --> 00:25:04.140
  • - WWJD.
  • 00:25:04.140 --> 00:25:05.090
  • (cups clinking)
  • 00:25:05.090 --> 00:25:06.040
  • (group laughs)
  • 00:25:06.040 --> 00:25:07.100
  • - So I want to pray for us today.
  • 00:25:07.100 --> 00:25:08.040
  • We need God's mercy and His grace,
  • 00:25:09.160 --> 00:25:12.060
  • "So Father, I just thank you Lord for who you are,
  • 00:25:12.060 --> 00:25:16.220
  • "and we worship you today.
  • 00:25:16.220 --> 00:25:18.260
  • "We thank you that you're the master of all,
  • 00:25:18.260 --> 00:25:21.220
  • "you're the Lord of all,
  • 00:25:21.220 --> 00:25:23.170
  • "and so Father we surrender to everything
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  • "you have for us today.
  • 00:25:26.180 --> 00:25:28.150
  • "God, I know that we walk through things
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  • "that you allow to happen,
  • 00:25:30.240 --> 00:25:34.160
  • "and Father I pray that our eyes are open that we might see,
  • 00:25:34.160 --> 00:25:38.230
  • "I pray for ears that we can hear.
  • 00:25:38.230 --> 00:25:41.190
  • "God I pray for the Holy Spirit
  • 00:25:41.190 --> 00:25:43.260
  • "to invade your beautiful body.
  • 00:25:43.260 --> 00:25:47.230
  • "Father let us be whole,
  • 00:25:47.230 --> 00:25:49.230
  • "let us be one as You and the Father are one, God.
  • 00:25:49.230 --> 00:25:53.100
  • "Let us unite together, let us love together,
  • 00:25:53.100 --> 00:25:57.150
  • "God let us be better together, Lord, as a body of Christ
  • 00:25:57.150 --> 00:26:02.140
  • "to rise up and say your kingdom come,
  • 00:26:02.140 --> 00:26:05.090
  • "your will be done, and Father give us strength,
  • 00:26:05.090 --> 00:26:09.020
  • "Father pour your love and let us see each other
  • 00:26:09.020 --> 00:26:12.100
  • "the way you see us, each and every one of us today,
  • 00:26:12.100 --> 00:26:15.180
  • "in your precious name, amen."
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