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November 27, 2017
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Guest Rose Medwin

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  • Today, on the "Green Room" couch,
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  • we have Rose Medwin, a woman who embodies "brave"
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  • in every aspect of the word.
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  • Not only does she lead the Hillsong Hobart campus
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  • in Tasmania, Australia with her husband, Kent.
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  • She is also a social worker
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  • specializing in high-conflict situations.
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  • She's involved in child development projects with
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  • Compassion Child sponsorship, and is a mother of three,
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  • one of whom they adopted from Ethiopia.
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  • Rose exemplifies what can happen when you lean into a vision
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  • and a cause bigger than yourself.
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  • I hope you feel inspired as you hear this remarkable woman
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  • share her story with our "Green Room" hosts,
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  • Niyah and Sarah.
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  • Sarah Morgan: Well, welcome to "Colour Conference:
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  • The Green Room."
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  • We are here in downtown Sydney at Colour Conference.
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  • And you might hear a little bit of noise in the background
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  • because our beautiful set that we have here
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  • is right in the foyer.
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  • Well, Niyah, I'm excited today because we have an amazing guest
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  • with us.
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  • Niyah Rahmaan: Very special guest.
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  • Sarah: Rose Medwin is with us today.
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  • Rose Medwin: Thank you, thank you.
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  • Sarah: And Rose is from Hobart in Tasmania.
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  • And Rose and her husband are pastoring the Hillsong extension
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  • campus down there and are doing an amazing job.
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  • So, how long have you been pastoring down there for?
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  • Rose: So, we've been pastoring at Hillsong Church
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  • about 2 and 1/2 years, so we're loving it.
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  • Sarah: So, one of our newest rooms?
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  • Rose: Yes, that's exactly right,
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  • and we started from scratch, so we started in our lounge room.
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  • So, we've had a lot of fun building church,
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  • and people meeting Jesus and comin' alive,
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  • you know, and meeting God and changing their lives.
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  • So, we're having fun.
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  • Niyah: Come on, now, what's that like?
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  • Do you just go out and you're just like,
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  • "Come to my house, we're having church"?
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  • Rose: Well, look, you know, well,
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  • we never actually intended to plant a church.
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  • Like, we just intended to start a connect group.
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  • And we felt really passionate about seeing people
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  • come to know Jesus.
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  • And I thought, "You can't just look at church and go,
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  • 'Church, why aren't people getting saved?'"
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  • And you've gotta look at yourself.
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  • And so, we went, "Well, we need to start a connect group
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  • that is, like, opens up our home and invites people to Jesus."
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  • And so that's what we did.
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  • So, we just started inviting friends and people, like,
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  • really random stories
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  • Niyah: And connect groups, for those who do not know,
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  • are like small Bible study groups--
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  • Rose: Yep, that's right, yeah, that's right.
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  • And it just started to grow.
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  • And we'd go to the park and put up a jumping castle,
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  • and we'd make a commitment that we wouldn't leave the park
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  • until we all had had a God conversation.
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  • And not, like, bashing people over the head about the Bible.
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  • We just asked people about, "Do you believe in God?"
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  • Or just start having conversations about God
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  • and people.
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  • It's amazing how many people just are interested in having
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  • a conversation about God.
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  • Sarah: You know, you have a bit of an interesting story.
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  • Can you tell us a little bit about you?
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  • You're married to an amazing man and you have children.
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  • Can you tell us a little bit about your family?
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  • Rose: Yeah, cool, we've got three kids,
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  • so our eldest is about to turn 15.
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  • He's a young man.
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  • And then we have a very shortly to be 12-year-old boy,
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  • and we have very shortly to be 9-year-old girl, and so,
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  • we're, like, we're, like, we were 2 boys for a long time,
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  • so it was a very kind of a masculine home.
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  • And then, we, I guess throughout our early years of marriage,
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  • my husband and I had felt really passionate about having children
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  • in our home that weren't just our biological children.
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  • So, we'd had our boys, but we just had this,
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  • I don't know.
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  • It started off as a little thing,
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  • and then it just started to grow bigger and bigger.
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  • And so, our daughter actually came to our family by way
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  • of international adoption.
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  • So she's born in Ethiopia, and, yeah,
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  • so it's been an amazing journey.
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  • So, she's been in our family for 6 years now.
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  • So, she came when she was 3, and, yeah, so.
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  • Niyah: Now, what was that process like?
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  • 'Cause I know adoption sometimes--
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  • I know adoption is not easy.
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  • You know, especially international adoption.
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  • What was that like?
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  • Sarah: And in Australia, it's not an easy process, is it?
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  • Rose: No, 'cause it's really time consuming.
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  • So that's the biggest thing.
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  • And you've gotta be really patient.
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  • But I think we were, we thought that,
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  • you know, we trusted that God would open and shut doors
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  • as he saw fit.
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  • So, we felt to, I guess, lean in to it, and that at each stage,
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  • "Okay, God, is this what you have for us?
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  • Is this what you have for a child?"
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  • Because, you know what?
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  • The best thing for a child is to be with their mum and dad.
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  • And it's not to be uprooted and taken and put in
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  • a really different culture with all unknown things.
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  • It really is a last resort.
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  • So, we didn't wanna be a part of something that really
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  • didn't have God's hand upon it.
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  • And so, yeah, it was a huge journey.
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  • And the Ethiopian program with Australia actually was
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  • suspended after we'd been involved and approved.
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  • We were ready to go, but they suspended the whole program.
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  • And we were, at the same time, also involved with Compassion.
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  • So, we're big advocates for Compassion.
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  • We love it, and I think, you know,
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  • part of our adoption journey, you know,
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  • stemmed from our heart for our sponsor kids.
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  • And yeah, and I remember we were at a Compassion board meeting.
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  • So, my husband's involved at that level of Compassion.
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  • And we'd traveled.
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  • And the adoption program was, like, closed.
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  • And I went along to this Compassion event and I remember,
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  • we were driving to Newcastle from Sydney.
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  • And all the way up, Kent and I talked about,
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  • "Well, maybe we should withdraw our application to be
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  • adoptive parents."
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  • 'Cause we just, the program was shut,
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  • and we were going, you know?
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  • Our youngest, I think, at that time, was 6, and so,
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  • we were like, "We're gonna have this massive gap."
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  • And we really kind of thought we'd have a baby,
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  • and, like, 6 years is a really big age gap.
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  • And so, we thought, "Maybe this is God shutting the door."
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  • And so, all the way up, we ummed and ahhed about whether or not
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  • we'd withdraw.
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  • And then I read a paper while I was at Compassion
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  • about the mortality rates of children under the age of 5,
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  • and I just really felt God say, "You know what?
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  • Just be patient. Just be patient."
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  • You know, even if you can save on child from that story
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  • being written across their life, it's worth it.
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  • Like, it's so worth it.
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  • And so, on the plane on the way back, I said,
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  • "Kent, you know what?
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  • It doesn't matter how long. I don't care if its 15 years.
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  • Like, I really don't think we should shut the door.
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  • We should wait and see if God shuts the door."
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  • And then, the program, like, kinda opened up,
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  • like, literally within weeks.
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  • And within 4 weeks from that day, we got a phone call,
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  • and we were allocated a beautiful 3-year-old girl.
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  • And even our adoption worker was just, like, floored.
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  • Like, she had no idea that it was going happen.
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  • There was no, like, secret whisper about children,
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  • especially not one coming to Tasmania.
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  • And yeah, so it was really amazing that,
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  • you know, we were gonna shut the door,
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  • but God had other ideas.
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  • And so, you know what? I'm so glad.
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  • Our life would be so different if we had, you know,
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  • made a different decision in that moment, so.
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  • Niyah: Now, what was that like bringing her home?
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  • You know, she's from another country,
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  • different things like that.
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  • What was that like for you guys as a family?
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  • Rose: Look, it was just so unknown, I think.
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  • Like, you just didn't know what to expect.
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  • And I remember my gorgeous sister-in-law threw me
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  • a little baby shower, and she was like,
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  • "You know, what do you wanna do?"
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  • And I remember saying to all the girls,
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  • and there were girls who have faith and girls that don't have
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  • faith, and I remember saying to them at the baby shower,
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  • "Look, you know what?
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  • We don't, like, kinda really need anything.
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  • What we really want you to do is to pray for peace for our
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  • daughter, Doratu, like, just pray peace because I think that
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  • if she's peaceful, she's gonna be able to cope with anything."
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  • So, I even said, "Even if you don't know God,
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  • can you just pray for peace for me?
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  • That would be the most beautiful gift.
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  • And not just for me and Kent, but for our daughter."
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  • And, you know, I felt the tangible presence
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  • of peace upon her, like, from the first moment,
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  • like, she was just so peaceful.
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  • Like, she even slept the first night in the hotel
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  • like 13 hours straight.
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  • Like, what child sleeps for 13 hours, like, a 2-year-old?
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  • Like, and we were, like, kinda almost going,
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  • "Is she okay?"
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  • Like, she was, like, just, like, comfortable.
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  • And you know what?
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  • And all way through, she was incredibly friendly and social,
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  • and, like, there is nothing I can say except that the peace
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  • of God just flooded her.
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  • And we've had the most amazing journey.
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  • Like, she, when you meet her, like,
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  • you know, people fall in love with her instantly
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  • 'cause she's just got this really sweet nature.
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  • And we haven't had a lot of the troubles
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  • that can come alongside--
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  • Niyah: Which is a blessing.
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  • We're gonna talk more about your story.
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  • But don't go anywhere, it's all happening right here
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  • on the "Colour: Green Room."
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  • Rose: Even if you're feeling a bit tired and weary,
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  • and you keep your heart a little bit open to God,
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  • that that's all he needs, just a little tiny crack, to speak.
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  • And I remember him just kinda saying,
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  • "You need to go. You need to go.
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  • I'm gonna show you something.
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  • I'm gonna show you something in Ethiopia that is
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  • for your whole family."
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  • Sarah: Well, welcome back to Colour Conference.
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  • We are here in the Green Room.
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  • And today, we are chatting to Rose Medwin from Hillsong
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  • in Hobart, Tasmania.
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  • Yes, which is very exciting.
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  • And, Rose, before the break, we were talking a little bit about
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  • your daughter, DJ, who is adopted from Ethiopia,
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  • and that beautiful story of how she came to be with your family.
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  • And we were also talking a little bit about Compassion and,
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  • you know, your journey and your heart for Compassion.
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  • Can you tell us a little bit more about that?
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  • Rose: Yeah, so, we started sponsoring some children
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  • in Ethiopia, and we'd been sponsoring them for a little
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  • while 'cause our church was really passionate about
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  • Compassion, and that's how we'd heard about it.
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  • And our church was sponsoring, like,
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  • kind of all in the one area.
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  • So we all, like, a lot of us families,
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  • we had our kids in the one area, and so the church said,
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  • "We're gonna go on a trip, and we're gonna go visit
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  • some of our kids."
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  • And so, my husband is adventure guy.
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  • He traveled a lot in his work.
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  • And he's like, "Signed us up." He's like, "We're going."
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  • And I was like, "No, look, you know what?
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  • God bless you. I think this is your thing.
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  • It's not my thing. I'm not going overseas."
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  • I'd never gone overseas at all.
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  • Actually, I'd had a terrible fear of flying.
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  • We had two little children.
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  • Like, I think, we had, at the time,
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  • I think, we had a, he was about 12--we had about 12-month-old,
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  • and then, I guess, a 3-year-old.
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  • And so we were in baby mode.
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  • I'm like, "I can't go overseas in baby mode."
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  • Sarah: It's hard to get out the front door,
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  • let alone go overseas, right?
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  • Rose: I know, I know, and I thought,
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  • "I'm not taking them, but I don't know if I can leave
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  • the for that long."
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  • And I remember one Sunday afternoon just,
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  • like, just not wanting to go to church actually, just not.
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  • I was like, "Oh, I don't think I'll go."
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  • And my husband, Kent, he's like, "Why don't you wanna go?"
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  • And I'm like, "I just feel, I just can't be bothered."
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  • And he just goes, "Okay, we don't go to church
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  • 'cause we can't be bothered.
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  • Like, if you're sick, or something's wrong,
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  • or you're weary, sure, fair enough."
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  • He said, "But we don't not go to church
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  • 'cause we can't be bothered."
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  • And I was like, "You know what? You're probably right."
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  • Sarah: "I stand corrected," yes.
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  • Rose: I actually thought, "Okay, next time,
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  • I'm just gonna sound a bit tired."
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  • But anyway, but he was right, okay?
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  • So, bless him.
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  • So, I went to church, and I remember, in worship,
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  • just, like, just felt the whisper of God,
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  • I suppose, in worship.
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  • And I think, you know, when you keep,
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  • even if you're feeling a bit tired and weary
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  • and you keep your heart a little bit open to God,
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  • that that's all he needs, just a little tiny crack, to speak.
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  • And I remember him just kinda saying,
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  • "You need to go. You need to go.
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  • I'm gonna show you something.
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  • I'm gonna show you something in Ethiopia that is
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  • for your whole family."
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  • And I was like, "This is why I didn't wanna go to church."
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  • I think I was like, "God has something for me."
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  • You know how you feel resistant, and then you get there
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  • and you go, "Thank you, God, for bringing me.
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  • I needed to hear it."
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  • And so, seriously, that night, I went home and I said,
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  • "Okay, babe, I'm in, I'm in."
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  • And he was so shocked 'cause I didn't even have a passport.
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  • And you know what?
  • 00:12:00.270 --> 00:12:02.080
  • I went with a lot of fear, actually, like, a lot of fear.
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  • I was really, really nervous about flying and leaving
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  • the kids, but I wanted to be obedient to what God said.
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  • He said he had something for me and for us as a family,
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  • and it was true.
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  • Like, when we got to Ethiopia and we got to visit our sponsor
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  • kids, like, it's actually really hard to put words to meeting
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  • them and seeing them and how much they actually love,
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  • like, love their sponsors.
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  • And their families, how much their families
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  • are so appreciative of what seems like such a little thing
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  • for us really is life changing.
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  • And we had the most amazing time.
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  • And I remember, like, literally, we were bumpin' around
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  • 'cause you ride in these little vans and things like that,
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  • and just getting the whole, the smell,
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  • the sight, the seeing, everything.
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  • It really kinda came alive for me and God started
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  • to show me how our family could make an impact.
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  • And yeah, so we ended up sponsoring some more children
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  • before we left, and it really changed our lives.
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  • And then our adoption journey opened up.
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  • And, you know, little did we know that God had
  • 00:13:09.020 --> 00:13:11.040
  • a beautiful little Ethiopian girl in his heart for us.
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  • And so, yeah, I'm so glad I said,
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  • "Yes," even though I was scared, even though it was so far
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  • out of my comfort zone.
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  • Sarah: And I love your story because I think we often,
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  • we all wanna do great things for God,
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  • but the fact that you overcame that little fear.
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  • And I think sometimes that's all it takes,
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  • isn't it, just doing the next right thing, the next step.
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  • So, talk to us now a little bit about your field.
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  • The theme of this year's Colour Conference is
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  • "Being Found in the Field."
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  • And yeah, tell us about the field that you're in because
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  • you do some amazing work.
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  • So, would you talk to us about that?
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  • Rose: Yeah, sure, I'm a social worker,
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  • so I'm really, I guess, really privileged to come alongside
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  • people and, I mean, their time of need.
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  • So, not only do I get to do that as a pastor and,
  • 00:13:56.260 --> 00:13:59.150
  • you know, in the name of Jesus, and I get to do it
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  • in a professional sense as well.
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  • And so, my specific area is in high-conflict
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  • marital separations.
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  • So, basically, I work with parents,
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  • mums and dads, who have divorced and separated.
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  • 'Cause not everyone gets married.
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  • But, you know, they've had quite a severe separation
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  • and there's quite entrenched conflict going on.
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  • And I only work with--my area particularly is around families,
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  • so every one of these families have children that have been
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  • caught up in, I guess, warring parents.
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  • And so, you know, it's a really great place.
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  • It's a really great place to bring the light of Jesus
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  • because it's hard.
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  • There's a lot of sadness and--
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  • Niyah: Talk to us a little bit about that.
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  • Shed some light.
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  • Because how do you navigate through that?
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  • What do you see? What, you know--?
  • 00:14:49.010 --> 00:14:51.050
  • You know, 'cause some families may think, like,
  • 00:14:51.060 --> 00:14:53.090
  • "Oh, my kid's not affected.
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  • They're fine, they'll be okay."
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  • Talk a little bit about that.
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  • Rose: Look, I think the research would show that kids
  • 00:14:58.200 --> 00:15:00.150
  • are and can be affected.
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  • Now, most kids get through okay, all right?
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  • But I think that the children that,
  • 00:15:05.200 --> 00:15:07.250
  • I guess, are most, that are most vulnerable in
  • 00:15:07.260 --> 00:15:10.070
  • a parental separation is those where there's high conflict.
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  • So, you got a mum and dad who just don't co-parent together.
  • 00:15:13.090 --> 00:15:16.200
  • When mums and dads don't speak to each other,
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  • when a child can't kind of love their dad or love their mum
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  • without the permission of the other parent,
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  • that puts them in a tug of war.
  • 00:15:25.110 --> 00:15:27.260
  • So, I think that the greater the conflict--and it doesn't even
  • 00:15:27.270 --> 00:15:31.190
  • necessarily mean to be violence or abuse.
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  • Like, you know, conflict can come in many different forms.
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  • And that really rocks children, and it rocks them at every
  • 00:15:37.120 --> 00:15:40.120
  • developmental stage, the research kinda shows.
  • 00:15:40.130 --> 00:15:43.020
  • So, it's, yeah, it is really important that,
  • 00:15:43.030 --> 00:15:46.010
  • as parents, that, even though we've got conflict,
  • 00:15:46.020 --> 00:15:49.190
  • we've got hurt, we've been let down,
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  • that we, I guess, we never take our eye off our kids,
  • 00:15:51.220 --> 00:15:55.050
  • and our parenting, and their security and stability,
  • 00:15:55.060 --> 00:15:59.000
  • and their feeling loved and valued in amongst kind of
  • 00:15:59.010 --> 00:16:02.190
  • all the stuff that's swirling around us, yeah.
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  • Sarah: That's amazing, yeah. So, how do you--?
  • 00:16:07.080 --> 00:16:10.020
  • You talked about bringing the light of Jesus into that space.
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  • How do you do that? Is there some practical things?
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  • Rose: Oh, look, I think, personally, like,
  • 00:16:16.090 --> 00:16:18.040
  • I've gotta be grounded in the Bible.
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  • Like, and I've got to invite the Holy Spirit with me.
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  • Like, I don't ever wanna-- I don't have good advice
  • 00:16:23.020 --> 00:16:24.270
  • for people.
  • 00:16:24.280 --> 00:16:26.070
  • Like, I think God has a way forward.
  • 00:16:26.080 --> 00:16:28.110
  • Like, the Bible talks about there being a right course
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  • of action in every situation.
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  • And, like, I've gotta discover that for myself and bring him
  • 00:16:32.150 --> 00:16:35.290
  • with me.
  • 00:16:36.000 --> 00:16:37.110
  • So, even if the family that I'm, you know, I'm invited alongside
  • 00:16:37.120 --> 00:16:40.090
  • doesn't necessarily invite the Holy Spirit,
  • 00:16:40.100 --> 00:16:42.110
  • I bring him with me.
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  • Niyah: Come on, that's right.
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  • Rose: I'll be like, "Come on."
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  • I actually can't do it. I can't do it without him.
  • 00:16:46.150 --> 00:16:47.240
  • And if I don't have a revelation of what the Bible teaches
  • 00:16:47.250 --> 00:16:50.140
  • about good, strong, healthy relationships,
  • 00:16:50.150 --> 00:16:52.290
  • how can I shine the light?
  • 00:16:53.000 --> 00:16:55.050
  • So, I think that I wanna be intentional about bringing
  • 00:16:55.060 --> 00:17:00.170
  • the Holy Spirit with me, and yeah.
  • 00:17:00.180 --> 00:17:03.020
  • Niyah: Ooh, my goodness, this is good.
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  • She's not going anywhere, so don't you go anywhere.
  • 00:17:04.160 --> 00:17:05.270
  • It's all happening right here on "Colour Conference:
  • 00:17:05.280 --> 00:17:09.030
  • The Green Room."
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  • Rose: I think you just have to listen to the call of God
  • 00:17:12.240 --> 00:17:14.190
  • on your own life, and you listen to the God whisper and ask him,
  • 00:17:14.200 --> 00:17:17.090
  • "Well, what can I do? What's in my hand?"
  • 00:17:17.100 --> 00:17:19.110
  • And for some people, that's in their own neighborhood,
  • 00:17:19.120 --> 00:17:21.290
  • and we should never neglect our own neighborhood.
  • 00:17:22.000 --> 00:17:24.290
  • But for some people, it'll be further afield.
  • 00:17:25.000 --> 00:17:27.180
  • 00:17:27.230 --> 00:17:31.110
  • Niyah: Welcome back to "Colour Conference:
  • 00:17:41.140 --> 00:17:42.260
  • The Green Room."
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  • We are on the couch with Rose Medwin.
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  • You and your husband oversee the Hillsong extension campus
  • 00:17:46.030 --> 00:17:49.230
  • in Hobart, Tasmania.
  • 00:17:49.240 --> 00:17:51.280
  • How cool is that?
  • 00:17:51.290 --> 00:17:53.290
  • Rose: It's a good place.
  • 00:17:54.000 --> 00:17:55.130
  • Niyah: Oh, love it.
  • 00:17:55.140 --> 00:17:56.230
  • Now, we've been talking about just some of the work that you
  • 00:17:56.240 --> 00:17:59.040
  • guys do with Compassion and just your heart
  • 00:17:59.050 --> 00:18:02.000
  • for just what breaks your heart.
  • 00:18:02.010 --> 00:18:05.150
  • Now, talk about that. Share that with us.
  • 00:18:05.160 --> 00:18:08.030
  • Rose: You know what?
  • 00:18:08.040 --> 00:18:09.130
  • I think there's just so much inequality across the earth,
  • 00:18:09.140 --> 00:18:12.010
  • all right?
  • 00:18:12.020 --> 00:18:13.110
  • And particularly around resource and access to information and,
  • 00:18:13.120 --> 00:18:17.230
  • like, education and school.
  • 00:18:17.240 --> 00:18:19.140
  • And you know what?
  • 00:18:19.150 --> 00:18:21.090
  • Like, it's really easy to--especially if you stay
  • 00:18:21.100 --> 00:18:23.270
  • in Australia, or always stay in a, like, a, kinda,
  • 00:18:23.280 --> 00:18:26.080
  • an urban developed country, it's really hard to appreciate
  • 00:18:26.090 --> 00:18:29.070
  • what really goes on around the rest of our planet.
  • 00:18:29.080 --> 00:18:31.280
  • And I think even though we have that privilege,
  • 00:18:31.290 --> 00:18:34.050
  • we still need to be aware and do what we can.
  • 00:18:34.060 --> 00:18:37.190
  • So, we can't do everything, but I think we can all do something,
  • 00:18:37.200 --> 00:18:40.170
  • all right?
  • 00:18:40.180 --> 00:18:42.110
  • And adoption isn't for everybody.
  • 00:18:42.120 --> 00:18:44.160
  • And we're not saying, "Hey, you need to adopt," by any means.
  • 00:18:44.170 --> 00:18:47.190
  • I think you just have to listen to the call of God on your own
  • 00:18:47.200 --> 00:18:50.050
  • life and listen to the God whisper and ask him
  • 00:18:50.060 --> 00:18:52.040
  • "Well, what can I do?
  • 00:18:52.050 --> 00:18:53.220
  • What's in my hand?"
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  • And for some people, that's in their own neighborhood,
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  • and we should never neglect our own neighborhood.
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  • But for some people, it'll be further afield.
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  • And I guess, for us, God started to open up through compassion,
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  • you know, the plight of children,
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  • and poverty particularly.
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  • And so, I guess that kinda drives us and has driven
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  • our family, and I guess, our whole family's on the journey
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  • with that now.
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  • Sarah: So, talk to us a little bit about poverty because
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  • that's something that, you know, with your travels through
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  • Compassion and through the work that you're involved in with
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  • Compassion, I'm sure you've seen a bit of that.
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  • So can you talk to us a little bit more about poverty,
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  • and even the way that Compassion is able to help with that?
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  • Rose: Look, my favorite thing about Compassion and why I think
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  • it sets it apart from other brilliant organizations that are
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  • on the ground working around our planet is that they don't just
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  • seek to bring, I guess, resource and to feed children,
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  • 'cause that's important, but they bring Jesus as well.
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  • And I think we know that with the sense of Jesus,
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  • you can face anything, and, you know, like,
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  • when we visited our children and then other people's
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  • children--in more than one country, by the way.
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  • This is not something that we just saw once
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  • in one country.
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  • I've seen this replicated around, is this sense of joy.
  • 00:20:06.160 --> 00:20:09.020
  • So, you go and you meet with people whose whole entire houses
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  • are literally no bigger than where we're sitting right now.
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  • And we think, "How can you be even happy?
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  • Like, how do you find happiness in this?"
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  • But there's just this joy. There's just this joy.
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  • And it's particularly evident with the families that are
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  • Christian, all right?
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  • Because, you know, you've got a lot of different religions
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  • and things in amongst communities.
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  • Particularly the ones that are Bible-believing Christians,
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  • there's just this sense of joy.
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  • And you know what?
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  • I think it's really inspired my husband and I to try
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  • and bring our kids on the journey with that as well,
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  • that I think we can see a lot of superficial stuff and think
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  • that that's what gives us joy, and it's not true.
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  • So, I love that Compassion brings Jesus,
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  • and, you know, everything that Jesus represents,
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  • and not just a roof over their heads.
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  • Niyah: How do you bring your kids on the journey?
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  • How did you include your kids on everything?
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  • Rose: Well, I think we were really intentional about
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  • what we teach them.
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  • And so, I think we've tried to teach them about generosity.
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  • Not just kindness, you know?
  • 00:21:09.280 --> 00:21:11.130
  • There's a big difference between just being kind.
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  • Generous is giving of stuff that you actually want, right?
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  • So, we've tried to endeavor to teach them to be generous.
  • 00:21:17.030 --> 00:21:21.010
  • Everything from the lolly bag they get from the party, right,
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  • you know how you get your lolly bag,
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  • you share with your siblings the ones you don't like.
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  • Sarah: Very hard to share with that.
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  • Rose: But you give away the spearmint leaf or something
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  • you don't like, right?
  • 00:21:31.160 --> 00:21:33.070
  • It's really different to give away the little--
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  • Sarah: The best one, the Mars bar.
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  • Rose: So, I think it's in the everyday stuff,
  • 00:21:36.130 --> 00:21:38.180
  • about being generous.
  • 00:21:38.190 --> 00:21:40.230
  • And so, our kids, you know, it's not--our sponsorship journey
  • 00:21:40.240 --> 00:21:43.270
  • isn't something that, "Oh, this is just something
  • 00:21:43.280 --> 00:21:45.140
  • Daddy and I do."
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  • It's our whole family. They write letters.
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  • They read letters. They help us be a part of it.
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  • One of our kids has been to Ethiopia with us,
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  • and we're just so excited.
  • 00:21:57.000 --> 00:21:58.250
  • We wanna go as a whole family actually,
  • 00:21:58.260 --> 00:22:00.170
  • and so we're planning to do that because we want--our middle son
  • 00:22:00.180 --> 00:22:03.290
  • as well hasn't had the opportunity to see it,
  • 00:22:04.000 --> 00:22:06.230
  • and we'd love for him to do that too because we watched
  • 00:22:06.240 --> 00:22:08.220
  • our oldest son, like, be awakened to things.
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  • Not heavily burdened, but just, like, "Oh, oh."
  • 00:22:11.200 --> 00:22:16.190
  • And so, he very rarely misses an opportunity to try
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  • and do what he can.
  • 00:22:20.040 --> 00:22:22.180
  • Like, he's a really generous young man, and I love it.
  • 00:22:22.190 --> 00:22:26.130
  • He's got his own revelation about Compassion.
  • 00:22:26.140 --> 00:22:28.150
  • In fact, as a school project last year,
  • 00:22:28.160 --> 00:22:30.180
  • he designed these caps.
  • 00:22:30.190 --> 00:22:33.000
  • And he sold them, and all the profits went to Compassion.
  • 00:22:33.010 --> 00:22:36.050
  • Like, he made this, like, a snapback thing,
  • 00:22:36.060 --> 00:22:37.180
  • and he did it all himself--so, like,
  • 00:22:37.190 --> 00:22:39.270
  • "Craniums of Compassion."
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  • He made this little thing and he sold these hats,
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  • and that didn't just start overnight.
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  • I think it starts from just a pattern of teaching kids.
  • 00:22:45.120 --> 00:22:49.010
  • Sarah: So, you were talking to us a little bit about a
  • 00:22:49.020 --> 00:22:50.290
  • project that you've seen with babies and mothers.
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  • Can you talk to us a little bit about that?
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  • Rose: Yeah, we discovered that Compassion
  • 00:22:56.160 --> 00:22:58.090
  • does these called, "Child development projects."
  • 00:22:58.100 --> 00:23:01.140
  • And so, they come alongside and they help the unborn babies
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  • with the mums.
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  • And then, through all the prenatal things.
  • 00:23:05.210 --> 00:23:07.160
  • And so, I mean, you might be able to get a, you know,
  • 00:23:07.170 --> 00:23:09.270
  • sponsor a child through, like, I guess,
  • 00:23:09.280 --> 00:23:11.210
  • the straightforward sponsorship program at about age 5.
  • 00:23:11.220 --> 00:23:14.000
  • But how do--?
  • 00:23:14.010 --> 00:23:15.100
  • You know, you've gotta help kids get to age 5.
  • 00:23:15.110 --> 00:23:17.080
  • So, they run clinics, and health clinics,
  • 00:23:17.090 --> 00:23:19.250
  • and they help the mums.
  • 00:23:19.260 --> 00:23:21.060
  • They help the dads.
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  • And we've been to a couple of those projects
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  • and met these beautiful families.
  • 00:23:25.150 --> 00:23:27.090
  • And, you know, they've learnt about what good hygiene is.
  • 00:23:27.100 --> 00:23:31.010
  • Like, I think you and I, we take it for granted.
  • 00:23:31.020 --> 00:23:33.030
  • We have our babies here and the hospital tells us things.
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  • But when you go there, you might have your baby in your house.
  • 00:23:36.040 --> 00:23:39.210
  • You don't have someone telling you how to sterilize a bottle.
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  • And they don't have the antibiotics and things to help
  • 00:23:42.210 --> 00:23:45.290
  • if their children do get sick, so these awesome projects
  • 00:23:46.000 --> 00:23:49.010
  • at Compassion help teach that.
  • 00:23:49.020 --> 00:23:51.290
  • Like, even safety.
  • 00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:53.090
  • Like, so, I was in a project once,
  • 00:23:53.100 --> 00:23:54.240
  • and they had this big cardboard thing,
  • 00:23:54.250 --> 00:23:56.060
  • and they were, like, how many, like,
  • 00:23:56.070 --> 00:23:57.210
  • incidents and things that families had had since
  • 00:23:57.220 --> 00:23:59.190
  • they'd joined the program.
  • 00:23:59.200 --> 00:24:01.070
  • Like, how many burns, how many falls,
  • 00:24:01.080 --> 00:24:03.140
  • and they were, like, actually recording how the improvement
  • 00:24:03.150 --> 00:24:07.210
  • of children's health in all those kinda different ways.
  • 00:24:07.220 --> 00:24:10.130
  • And so, watching families understand about safety.
  • 00:24:10.140 --> 00:24:13.190
  • And we kinda get bombarded a bit, right?
  • 00:24:13.200 --> 00:24:16.070
  • Like, with all that hover parent things.
  • 00:24:16.080 --> 00:24:18.140
  • Well, it's kinda the extreme, and, you know,
  • 00:24:18.150 --> 00:24:20.240
  • we've kinda gotta find that balance probably.
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  • Niyah: Oh, I love that.
  • 00:24:22.240 --> 00:24:24.130
  • Sarah: Now, you're a big-hearted woman with
  • 00:24:24.140 --> 00:24:25.230
  • an amazing family and lots going on around you.
  • 00:24:25.240 --> 00:24:29.110
  • So, what's it like around your dining room table?
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  • Tell us, what is it like?
  • 00:24:32.280 --> 00:24:34.200
  • Is it chaos? Is it madness?
  • 00:24:34.210 --> 00:24:36.130
  • You know, you're building church,
  • 00:24:36.140 --> 00:24:38.120
  • or, you know, involved in the work that you're involved in.
  • 00:24:38.130 --> 00:24:40.140
  • What's it like?
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  • Rose: It can be really busy.
  • 00:24:41.260 --> 00:24:43.050
  • Like, it can be crazy, and you've gotta, like,
  • 00:24:43.060 --> 00:24:44.150
  • you've gotta take your kids on the journey.
  • 00:24:44.160 --> 00:24:46.010
  • And you can't always be,
  • 00:24:46.020 --> 00:24:47.110
  • "Oh, no, we're doing this and we're doing that."
  • 00:24:47.120 --> 00:24:48.210
  • You've gotta kinda make it special for them.
  • 00:24:48.220 --> 00:24:50.020
  • And, you know, we try to have a lot of fun.
  • 00:24:50.030 --> 00:24:51.190
  • Like, having an Ethiopian daughter,
  • 00:24:51.200 --> 00:24:53.140
  • she has this natural sass about her.
  • 00:24:53.150 --> 00:24:55.250
  • Like, she'd think she was, like, African American really.
  • 00:24:55.260 --> 00:24:58.200
  • Like, she--I don't know where it came from.
  • 00:24:58.210 --> 00:25:00.110
  • Like, it just--so, we have a lot of fun with that.
  • 00:25:00.120 --> 00:25:01.220
  • But I think we do endeavor to kind of,
  • 00:25:01.230 --> 00:25:04.130
  • I guess, try and be in the moment with the kids.
  • 00:25:04.140 --> 00:25:06.290
  • You can be busy.
  • 00:25:07.000 --> 00:25:08.090
  • You can be involved and do things,
  • 00:25:08.100 --> 00:25:10.010
  • and amazing things, and still be a great parent
  • 00:25:10.020 --> 00:25:11.210
  • 'cause you can still be child focused within all of that.
  • 00:25:11.220 --> 00:25:14.290
  • Niyah: Rose, you are incredible.
  • 00:25:15.000 --> 00:25:16.290
  • Such an inspiring woman.
  • 00:25:17.000 --> 00:25:18.130
  • Thank you so much for joining us on the couch.
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  • Rose: Thank you for having me.
  • 00:25:20.240 --> 00:25:22.090
  • It's been fun.
  • 00:25:22.100 --> 00:25:23.190
  • Niyah: For our girl chat. I absolutely love it.
  • 00:25:23.200 --> 00:25:24.290
  • And thank you for joining us as well.
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  • We'll see you next time.
  • 00:25:26.220 --> 00:25:28.180
  • Bobbie: Next week, we have a very special guest
  • 00:25:30.260 --> 00:25:32.230
  • in the studio.
  • 00:25:32.240 --> 00:25:34.060
  • Niyah and Sarah sit down with the irrepressible
  • 00:25:34.070 --> 00:25:37.240
  • Margaret Stunt.
  • 00:25:37.250 --> 00:25:39.040
  • You'd never know by looking at her,
  • 00:25:39.050 --> 00:25:41.010
  • but Margaret's story was one of brokenness and abuse.
  • 00:25:41.020 --> 00:25:44.000
  • Join us as Margaret shares her story of not only healing and
  • 00:25:44.010 --> 00:25:48.090
  • restoration, but of victory and complete freedom from her past.
  • 00:25:48.100 --> 00:25:54.250