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Colour Conference: The Green Room

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November 20, 2017
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Joe and Kelia Termini

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  • The Green Room," we have a dynamic duo.
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  • Kelia Termini is a champion pro surfer with a unique story
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  • and journey to share from.
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  • And Joe is a talented photographer,
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  • his work is hugely diverse.
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  • Kelia shares about competing in male-dominated sports,
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  • and Joe shares about his views on marriage,
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  • and legacy, and how God is allowing his passion
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  • for photography to become a platform for raising awareness
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  • on social justice issues.
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  • What you have in your hand can become a powerful tool for good,
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  • and I pray this conversation inspires you to find ways to use
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  • it for the glory of God.
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  • Niyah Rahmaan: Welcome to "Colour Conference:
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  • The Green Room."
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  • We are here in Sydney, Australia at?
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  • Sarah Morgan: The Colour Conference.
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  • Niyah: Yes, at Colour Conference.
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  • I'm excited.
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  • You're gonna hear some noise around because
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  • our set is actually in the middle of the foyer.
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  • Sarah: We are where it's at right here.
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  • Niyah: We're where it's at and on the couch with us today
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  • is Joe and Kelia Termini.
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  • Welcome.
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  • Joe Termini: Thanks for having us.
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  • Niyah: Now, you guys came a little far because we're talking
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  • Hawaii, New York, only the best of the best.
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  • I mean, if you're from a city, you want to be from
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  • New York City, you want to be from Hawaii.
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  • Kelia Termini: And that's where we're from.
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  • Niyah: Now talk to us because, Kelia,
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  • you're a pro surfer.
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  • Kelia: Yes, ma'am.
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  • Niyah: I mean, forget a 9 to 5,
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  • we're gonna go big and we're gonna go,
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  • you know, what I'm saying?
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  • This is huge.
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  • Kelia: I guess when you grow up on an island in the middle of
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  • the Pacific Ocean, you really have no other choice
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  • but to like kind of familiarize yourself with the ocean,
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  • and maybe learn how to surf, and maybe do it every day
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  • 'cause there's not much else to do.
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  • Sarah: Sounds like a tough upbringing, really.
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  • Niyah: Now, your family is not just any old family
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  • 'cause your family is just built around surfing, right?
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  • Tell us a little about your family.
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  • Kelia: Yes, my dad was a professional surfer and my mom
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  • loves surfing, just as much, maybe even more than he does.
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  • And they just raised us around the ocean.
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  • My dad actually just paved the way for my brothers
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  • and I without really knowing he was doing so.
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  • He surfed on tour.
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  • He actually became a big wave surfer towards the end of
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  • his career which basically meant he surfed very large waves
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  • and kind of forgot about all the other like competing stuff.
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  • And so yeah, he did that and once he had us,
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  • I have four brothers, you know, naturally we just love the ocean
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  • because that's what dad did and that's what mom did.
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  • And my mom homeschooled us our whole life so like part
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  • of our upbringing was actually sometimes doing school
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  • on the beach, so like literally surfing was--
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  • Niyah: School on the beach, are you kidding me?
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  • Kelia: Our life.
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  • Niyah: Yes!
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  • Kelia: When we knew there was a swell coming,
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  • we'd do our school the night before so we could surf all day
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  • and yeah, that was our life.
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  • Sarah: So, what's your first memory of surfing?
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  • How old were you?
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  • Kelia: I think the first memory that I remember surfing,
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  • taking a surfboard and surfing it because I wanted to
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  • or like I was interested in doing it by myself,
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  • I was maybe like 7. And it was a 12-foot board.
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  • It was like my dad's special board.
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  • And I was probably like this big.
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  • I was tiny, petite.
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  • And I took this board out and I could literally,
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  • barely like fit my arms on the side of the board to paddle.
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  • And I went out and I caught a wave,
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  • couldn't move the board because 12-feet long, super heavy.
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  • But that's like my first memory in Waikiki where I grew up
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  • surfing and then I just kind of--you just love it.
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  • It's the best place.
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  • Niyah: Joe, what's it like?
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  • You're married to a professional surfer.
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  • I mean, this is--
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  • Kelia: But Joe is like a better surfer than
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  • I am so like I got really lucky.
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  • Joe: This is when your wife loves you and says things
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  • like that.
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  • Like, you're lying to Christians.
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  • Niyah: She's empowering you right now,
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  • she's empowering you.
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  • Sarah: I love that.
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  • Niyah: What's it like?
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  • I mean--
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  • Joe: I mean, it's incredible.
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  • Niyah: Are you little intimidated when you get out
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  • there in the waves now?
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  • Joe: No, actually I think one of the coolest things
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  • about bonding with her family is being in the water.
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  • Like, I come from a family that is surfs as well,
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  • although we're from New York and--
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  • Niyah: Coney Island, those waves.
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  • Joe: Yeah, Coney Island's waves,
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  • you know, like as long as you like cut past the dead body
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  • and you go around.
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  • No, I'm just kidding.
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  • Coney Island's actually awesome and but yeah, it's cool.
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  • I mean her family's amazing and they're really embracing,
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  • and I think our time spent in the water together has been
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  • really just like just unbelievable.
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  • They also run a really cool like surf school in Waikiki so their
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  • whole thing is about teaching people how to surf and be
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  • in the water.
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  • So, their family's about-- it helps me in a sense 'cause
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  • I'm a bit of a--I'm not as good as them so they're okay to be
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  • around people aren't that great at it.
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  • So, they're teaching little children all the time so they
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  • just kind of, you know, kick you in, you know, don't drown.
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  • We don't have CPR.
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  • It's all right, you know, it's all right.
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  • They help me out.
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  • Kelia: So, the first time I met Joe was actually
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  • at the beach and he's got a lot of personality.
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  • And I'm in Malibu in California.
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  • I'm in Malibu California and a friend of mine had called me
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  • and it was his birthday.
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  • He's like, "Hey, I want to go surfing."
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  • And he doesn't know how to surf very well.
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  • He's just like just learning and I'm--
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  • Joe: She's talking about her friend, not me, obviously.
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  • Kelia: I'm kind of just teaching him right?
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  • So, my friend, his girlfriend, my best friend and then he's
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  • like, "And my buddy, Joe, from New York is gonna be there."
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  • So like, you don't typically put like New York
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  • and surfing together, right?
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  • Niyah: I can imagine that.
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  • Kelia: So, I was just like, "Okay, well,
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  • bring surfboards and we'll meet you down at the beach."
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  • So, we get down to the beach and he's like freaking out
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  • and like the waves are so small, like so small.
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  • He's like, "They're so good!"
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  • I'm just like, "Yeah, great, like, let's do this."
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  • And so, he grabs one of the surfboards and like puts his
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  • wetsuit on and this beach that we're at has a lot of rocks.
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  • So, like I'm like, I don't know if this guy like knows.
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  • I'm like, "Hey, you may not want to go out there because like
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  • just that direction because there's a lot of rocks
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  • and the tide zone, it just might be dangerous."
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  • And he's like, "No, no, I got this."
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  • I'm like, "Okay, just maybe just be a little like careful."
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  • I'm like, this guy is gonna hurt himself.
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  • He goes out there and totally shows off and I was like okay,
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  • fine.
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  • Sarah: So, from that point on, was that it?
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  • Kelia: No, no.
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  • Niyah: It took a little bit more.
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  • Joe: I think I was I can be too much,
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  • you know what I mean?
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  • I'm a, you know, passionate, excited about waves
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  • really small.
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  • I was like really chatty and running around in circles
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  • on the beach.
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  • She's like a mellow, cool, Hawaiian girl from the Pacific
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  • and I'm like a loud, boisterous, Italian New Yorker.
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  • So, I don't know what we're doing together,
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  • but it works, you know?
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  • So opposites, I guess, do attract.
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  • She loves pizza, so we're good.
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  • Niyah: There you go, there you go.
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  • How is that?
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  • She's a prominent figure in the sports world.
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  • How is that being married to someone like that
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  • who you go out, people know who she is.
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  • People know who your family is.
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  • So, how is that being married to someone like that?
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  • Joe: Awesome.
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  • I mean, I just I grew up with a really great mom,
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  • and my mom's like an amazing surfer,
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  • and my dad's obviously incredible as well but
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  • we're talking about her in the context of a woman.
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  • And like I just grew up with a really strong mom.
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  • Like she mowed the lawn, I did yard work with my mom.
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  • Like, my mom is just, she's just a really strong,
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  • amazing, incredible woman.
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  • So, it's like by default, I was lucky enough to be okay
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  • with that so when I'm with her, like it makes me feel really
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  • comfortable with that kind of scenario.
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  • She's just great.
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  • I want to support her with everything she does
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  • 'cause that's, I think, my job.
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  • Kelia: It's an honor that you're kind of comparing me
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  • to your mom 'cause she's like my favorite.
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  • She's the best.
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  • Sarah: I love that.
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  • Well, let's go there for a moment 'cause you're a female
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  • in, you know, potentially what has been a male-dominated sports
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  • field over the years and one daughter of you've got
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  • lots of brothers and things.
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  • So, what's that journey been like for you being a woman
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  • in that environment?
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  • Kelia: I was always around men,
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  • my brothers, my dad, and all my brother's friends.
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  • So, I was just always comfortable with that.
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  • It wasn't like a strange place to be with
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  • just like men everywhere.
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  • If anything, they pushed me to be better.
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  • And I think having a dad who makes you really secure as a
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  • girl as a woman, makes that all just like it's not even anything
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  • that ever crossed my mind until I have interviews like this
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  • and like, "What is it like being a female in a male-dominated
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  • sport?"
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  • You're like, "Well, I didn't really know they dominated it
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  • but I guess they do."
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  • But it's true and I think it all comes down to having like
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  • a great family, my dad, my mom, and my brothers, so yeah.
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  • Niyah: Come on, now, you hear how hard dad empowered her
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  • as a woman, as his daughter, the message of sisterhood
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  • is empowering women.
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  • Why is it so important to empower your wife
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  • or your future children, if you have daughters one day,
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  • why do you think that's so important?
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  • Joe: I mean, there's so many--that's such a
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  • loaded question on so many levels but one,
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  • I've chosen her to be my bride and my partner so I can be
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  • a little bit funny with semantics.
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  • When women are like, you know, or guys will be like, you know,
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  • every great man has a great woman behind him.
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  • I'm like, what?
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  • No, I run alongside my wife and we do things together.
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  • That's the only way we're gonna be able to do things
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  • is together.
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  • And I just think, again, growing up with a great mother,
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  • seeing the power of what a mother can do.
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  • I had trouble in school with my education,
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  • my mom read to me.
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  • I couldn't do my book reports or I had trouble just like with so
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  • many things that had to do with education and my mom helped me
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  • understand and enjoy the process of learning and things
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  • like that.
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  • So, I just always grew up and then she taught me what it was
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  • like to be a man but then I was also covered by the femininity
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  • of being around a woman.
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  • Niyah: We want to go there.
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  • We want to go there 'cause I want to get more
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  • into your story.
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  • So, don't go anywhere 'cause it's all happening right here on
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  • "The Colour: Green Room."
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  • Kelia: There was something missing and like as much as
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  • my parents, you know, we were raised in a Christian household.
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  • I didn't have that personal relationship.
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  • And I remember having that moment where I'm like,
  • 00:09:59.170 --> 00:10:01.270
  • okay like, are you real?
  • 00:10:01.280 --> 00:10:04.210
  • Are you actually here?
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  • 00:10:06.230 --> 00:10:09.130
  • Sarah: Well, welcome back to Colour Conference.
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  • We're in the green room here in the foyer and we've got this
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  • great setup.
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  • You might hear some noise 'cause we are in the middle
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  • of things here.
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  • Niyah: We're lounging out.
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  • Sarah: Yes, and we have some amazing people with us today,
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  • Joe and Kelia Termini.
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  • So guys, we're just loving getting to chat to you.
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  • Before we went to the break, we were talking about the--some of
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  • the amazing women this your world,
  • 00:10:40.140 --> 00:10:42.010
  • Joe, and the way, you know, just empowering women
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  • and seeing different influences that you've had.
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  • So, talk to us a little bit more about that.
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  • Joe: Yeah, it's awesome. It's a great question.
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  • And I just think it's our job as people to empower people.
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  • So, I understand that men and women have a huge difference,
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  • but if we don't look at it strategically that our job is to
  • 00:10:59.240 --> 00:11:02.280
  • empower people and not make the huge gap between men and women,
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  • the beauty of God and how he designed us,
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  • I think we're different and we carry
  • 00:11:08.080 --> 00:11:09.270
  • different responsibilities.
  • 00:11:09.280 --> 00:11:11.070
  • Like, I cannot have a baby but there's,
  • 00:11:11.080 --> 00:11:13.070
  • I think there's just supernatural strength
  • 00:11:13.080 --> 00:11:15.070
  • in just empowering human beings.
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  • So, I don't make a huge--because of the way I was raised,
  • 00:11:16.250 --> 00:11:20.090
  • I don't make a huge, there's not a huge difference between
  • 00:11:20.100 --> 00:11:23.050
  • men and women for me.
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  • Like, I don't think men are better athletes or women
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  • or better athletes or this.
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  • Like, I just don't think that's technically the case.
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  • I don't know if that answers your question or not.
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  • Niyah: Well, why do you think it's important for men
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  • to empower their women?
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  • Like, you know so often you can be like,
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  • "Well, my sister's a strong woman or my wife
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  • is a strong woman.
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  • She doesn't need me to empower her or tell her she's great
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  • and everything like that."
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  • Why do you think men still need to do it?
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  • Joe: I think it's a stigma that people have even from the
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  • get-go on what they understand women's places are in the world.
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  • So, you know, we look back and I think maybe the old school
  • 00:11:52.080 --> 00:11:55.280
  • thought or the old school idea is maybe women do this one kind
  • 00:11:55.290 --> 00:11:58.070
  • of thing so we get taught and men get caught in this one idea
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  • of what things are supposed to look like and it's not the case.
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  • And I don't think men can be strong without women.
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  • Like, so we think that we can go so much further but without
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  • the God-designed intent of man and woman,
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  • that's what God has told us.
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  • That's is what he said in Genesis with Adam.
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  • Like, we can only go so far.
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  • So, if we don't understand that our job is to empower
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  • or support, 'cause the Bible's asked us to do that,
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  • then you're not living the way God's asked you to.
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  • Niyah: Oh, brother preaching right now.
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  • Joe: I mean, I don't want to get too liberal on it but
  • 00:12:26.240 --> 00:12:28.260
  • I just think God has asked me to support,
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  • and I think for me as a man with potentially like just leading
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  • things, I think it's important.
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  • Like, I want her to find the journey of following Jesus
  • 00:12:36.230 --> 00:12:39.080
  • really fun.
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  • We want to do that for our kids.
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  • Like this whole thing should be an exploration and we should be
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  • empowering each other.
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  • Niyah: Well, Kelia, let's talk about you because not only
  • 00:12:46.100 --> 00:12:48.060
  • are you, what, two-time world champ longboard, right?
  • 00:12:48.070 --> 00:12:51.220
  • You do Muay Thai, Muay Thai, Muay Thai.
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  • What would you tell girls who are coming up in a sport
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  • that might be male dominated?
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  • What would you tell me to empower them?
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  • Kelia: Well, I mean I think, you know,
  • 00:13:02.090 --> 00:13:07.060
  • my upbringing has been a really key part of that,
  • 00:13:07.070 --> 00:13:11.140
  • of having that empowered-- without being
  • 00:13:11.150 --> 00:13:15.250
  • prideful in a sense.
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  • And, you know, I'd give that back to my mom and my dad
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  • for the way they raised me.
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  • But also there was a moment where I definitely lost that
  • 00:13:22.110 --> 00:13:24.180
  • like confidence in like okay, why am I doing this anymore?
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  • And like, what do I really want to do?
  • 00:13:29.180 --> 00:13:31.270
  • When I grew up surfing, I actually started a as a short
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  • boarder and when you shortboard, you're competing a lot more than
  • 00:13:34.190 --> 00:13:38.180
  • when you longboard.
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  • And so, there was a season where I was on competing on the junior
  • 00:13:39.290 --> 00:13:43.060
  • series as a shortboarder and I was really good but I started to
  • 00:13:43.070 --> 00:13:46.230
  • not enjoy the process of competing and what that did
  • 00:13:46.240 --> 00:13:49.130
  • to my spirit because I was almost overly competitive,
  • 00:13:49.140 --> 00:13:53.030
  • right?
  • 00:13:53.040 --> 00:13:55.010
  • So, I remembered oh wow, I also am kind of good at longboarding.
  • 00:13:55.020 --> 00:13:58.280
  • There's not as big as a competitive realm to it,
  • 00:13:58.290 --> 00:14:04.060
  • but I still--I love it because it's what--it's like the core
  • 00:14:04.070 --> 00:14:08.040
  • of surfing, how about I give that a go?
  • 00:14:08.050 --> 00:14:09.250
  • And because of my amazing sponsors they're like,
  • 00:14:09.260 --> 00:14:13.020
  • "Let's just do this, like we'll support you if you want to
  • 00:14:13.030 --> 00:14:15.130
  • longboard, even though it's not a really big competitive
  • 00:14:15.140 --> 00:14:18.070
  • driven part of surfing, we're gonna support you."
  • 00:14:18.080 --> 00:14:21.070
  • So, I decided I'm like okay, I'm gonna take kind of a really
  • 00:14:21.080 --> 00:14:24.020
  • big change here and start to longboard.
  • 00:14:24.030 --> 00:14:26.290
  • During that transition, I really had to find my confidence,
  • 00:14:27.000 --> 00:14:29.230
  • not in what my parents gave me, but like my confidence in just
  • 00:14:29.240 --> 00:14:33.130
  • Jesus and having to find a relationship with him because
  • 00:14:33.140 --> 00:14:35.250
  • there's--there was something missing.
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  • And like as much as my parents, you know,
  • 00:14:41.050 --> 00:14:43.040
  • we were raised in a Christian household,
  • 00:14:43.050 --> 00:14:44.190
  • I didn't have that personal relationship.
  • 00:14:44.200 --> 00:14:45.290
  • And I remember having that moment where I'm like,
  • 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:48.050
  • "Okay, like, are you real?
  • 00:14:48.060 --> 00:14:51.110
  • Are you actually here?"
  • 00:14:51.120 --> 00:14:52.280
  • And I found that for myself and I think through that
  • 00:14:52.290 --> 00:14:54.080
  • relationship, I gained that confidence back on
  • 00:14:54.090 --> 00:14:56.130
  • a much bigger level.
  • 00:14:56.140 --> 00:14:58.230
  • And yeah, it was something.
  • 00:14:58.240 --> 00:15:02.140
  • It was just out of my control at that point.
  • 00:15:02.150 --> 00:15:04.000
  • I just was like, okay I'm gonna do this and I feel comfortable
  • 00:15:04.010 --> 00:15:06.080
  • doing this even though in like surfing longboarding
  • 00:15:06.090 --> 00:15:10.180
  • is necessarily something that kids grow up being like,
  • 00:15:10.190 --> 00:15:14.280
  • "I want to be a professional longboarder."
  • 00:15:14.290 --> 00:15:16.080
  • Some do, but not really because it's--there's not that much
  • 00:15:16.090 --> 00:15:20.210
  • money, and it's not supported, and it's not as much
  • 00:15:20.220 --> 00:15:23.170
  • as shortboarding.
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  • There's a much bigger, brighter future in shortboarding.
  • 00:15:24.280 --> 00:15:28.040
  • So, I've been, I mean, absolutely blessed
  • 00:15:28.050 --> 00:15:30.220
  • with my journey.
  • 00:15:30.230 --> 00:15:33.030
  • Sarah: You touched a little bit on confidence.
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  • Can you talk to us a little about that?
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  • How have you navigated that?
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  • I'm sure you've seasons where you've had to really
  • 00:15:37.230 --> 00:15:39.280
  • just make sure you keep your confidence up.
  • 00:15:39.290 --> 00:15:43.010
  • How have you done that?
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  • Kelia: Again, my family, definitely Jesus had a lot
  • 00:15:45.110 --> 00:15:50.110
  • to do with it because as a professional surfer,
  • 00:15:50.120 --> 00:15:53.140
  • you're in a bikini, you're half naked for most of your life.
  • 00:15:53.150 --> 00:15:58.180
  • And as a female, it's a pretty tough and, you know,
  • 00:15:58.190 --> 00:16:03.110
  • there are times when you're growing,
  • 00:16:03.120 --> 00:16:05.050
  • and you're trying to figure out like,
  • 00:16:05.060 --> 00:16:06.170
  • what is my body doing?
  • 00:16:06.180 --> 00:16:08.020
  • Why is it doing all this?
  • 00:16:08.030 --> 00:16:09.230
  • And you have to like learn how to navigate the process and
  • 00:16:09.240 --> 00:16:12.270
  • like letting it happen but also being okay with what's going on.
  • 00:16:12.280 --> 00:16:17.150
  • And again, through my process of growing and understanding
  • 00:16:17.160 --> 00:16:23.070
  • myself, I had to just like let God be there to just like
  • 00:16:23.080 --> 00:16:29.130
  • protect me with his grace and not let my insecurities get
  • 00:16:29.140 --> 00:16:33.130
  • the best of that because there was just no room.
  • 00:16:33.140 --> 00:16:36.210
  • There was no room for that.
  • 00:16:36.220 --> 00:16:38.010
  • I didn't want that to get the best of me 'cause it's like
  • 00:16:38.020 --> 00:16:40.210
  • so easy to.
  • 00:16:40.220 --> 00:16:42.060
  • Joe: My weapon, my tool, is my camera so if I'm gonna point
  • 00:16:44.220 --> 00:16:46.110
  • a bright light on selling a pair of shoes,
  • 00:16:46.120 --> 00:16:50.050
  • I can point a bright light on allowing people to understand
  • 00:16:50.060 --> 00:16:53.020
  • that these people are dying here and no one's helping.
  • 00:16:53.030 --> 00:16:55.010
  • 00:16:55.240 --> 00:16:58.210
  • Niyah: Joe, you have spent some time--you were actually
  • 00:17:09.190 --> 00:17:11.150
  • blessed to be able to go to, with United,
  • 00:17:11.160 --> 00:17:14.010
  • to Syria recently a little while ago.
  • 00:17:14.020 --> 00:17:17.130
  • Joe: Lebanon.
  • 00:17:17.140 --> 00:17:19.010
  • Niyah: Lebanon and work with some of the refugees
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  • or like go into the camps.
  • 00:17:20.180 --> 00:17:22.100
  • What was that like?
  • 00:17:22.110 --> 00:17:23.200
  • Joe: It was amazing 'cause we were recording the album in
  • 00:17:23.210 --> 00:17:25.070
  • Israel, "Of Dirt And Grace," and then we had some time to travel
  • 00:17:25.080 --> 00:17:29.220
  • over with World Vision to go to Lebanon because we've been,
  • 00:17:29.230 --> 00:17:32.270
  • on the tours, we've been talking about that.
  • 00:17:32.280 --> 00:17:36.050
  • Before the show, J.D. would go up and say that,
  • 00:17:36.060 --> 00:17:38.040
  • "we're working on a much bigger picture here
  • 00:17:38.050 --> 00:17:40.110
  • and this is what's going on with humanitarian and
  • 00:17:40.120 --> 00:17:42.160
  • a humanitarian crisis is going on in the world."
  • 00:17:42.170 --> 00:17:45.280
  • And then we were talking about helping sponsor children
  • 00:17:45.290 --> 00:17:47.270
  • and things like that so it was really amazing.
  • 00:17:47.280 --> 00:17:49.280
  • So, this was a firsthand experience where some of us
  • 00:17:49.290 --> 00:17:52.170
  • were able to go and see what's going on there.
  • 00:17:52.180 --> 00:17:56.140
  • Niyah: I see your pictures on Instagram and just how
  • 00:17:56.150 --> 00:17:59.210
  • you've been using your platform as a voice.
  • 00:17:59.220 --> 00:18:02.270
  • You've been so vocal for change and people to open their eyes
  • 00:18:02.280 --> 00:18:06.120
  • to see.
  • 00:18:06.130 --> 00:18:07.250
  • What stirred you up?
  • 00:18:07.260 --> 00:18:09.050
  • How did this injustice gene and just, you know,
  • 00:18:09.060 --> 00:18:11.260
  • where did that come from?
  • 00:18:11.270 --> 00:18:14.230
  • Joe: I was at a United concert and I never really shot
  • 00:18:14.240 --> 00:18:17.050
  • music before that and I was using a telephoto lens.
  • 00:18:17.060 --> 00:18:20.030
  • And I was just zooming in and like photographing people
  • 00:18:20.040 --> 00:18:23.210
  • and I could clearly feel God speaking to me and saying,
  • 00:18:23.220 --> 00:18:26.150
  • "I love that one."
  • 00:18:26.160 --> 00:18:28.070
  • And I would move off to another person,
  • 00:18:28.080 --> 00:18:29.210
  • we're talking about thousands of people but then you hit
  • 00:18:29.220 --> 00:18:31.240
  • the individual, you hit the individual and I felt like God
  • 00:18:31.250 --> 00:18:34.000
  • was just saying, "I love that."
  • 00:18:34.010 --> 00:18:35.280
  • And watching people worship and cry and have this kind of like
  • 00:18:35.290 --> 00:18:39.040
  • independent relationship or conversation with God
  • 00:18:39.050 --> 00:18:43.160
  • in an arena with so many was just so cool and it was about
  • 00:18:43.170 --> 00:18:46.140
  • the individual.
  • 00:18:46.150 --> 00:18:48.130
  • And then traveling to India and spending time with Biju Thampy
  • 00:18:48.140 --> 00:18:51.060
  • and doing that whole thing and, again,
  • 00:18:51.070 --> 00:18:53.110
  • seeing what's happening and how people are living and
  • 00:18:53.120 --> 00:18:56.120
  • understanding that the church's job is to reach out
  • 00:18:56.130 --> 00:18:59.180
  • and help people.
  • 00:18:59.190 --> 00:19:01.010
  • So, Joel writes music. United travels the world.
  • 00:19:01.020 --> 00:19:04.090
  • Bobbie preaches this beautiful soft and feminine heart.
  • 00:19:04.100 --> 00:19:07.030
  • Brian preaches from his platform and does what he does.
  • 00:19:07.040 --> 00:19:09.220
  • My good friend Carl Lentz preaches with more passion
  • 00:19:09.230 --> 00:19:12.090
  • than I've ever seen like a dying man.
  • 00:19:12.100 --> 00:19:13.290
  • Like, we all have these--surfer, you know what I mean,
  • 00:19:14.000 --> 00:19:16.280
  • woman, kindness, the things that she does with her sisters thing.
  • 00:19:16.290 --> 00:19:19.250
  • We all have this chance, and this tool,
  • 00:19:19.260 --> 00:19:22.090
  • and this weapon to use.
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  • Mine is taking pictures.
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  • And I just feel like it's important for me to be able
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  • to document different parts of the world,
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  • not just--and I don't think there's anything wrong
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  • with fashion.
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  • I still do that but I think, you know,
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  • finding the balance and being able to shed light on issues
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  • and things where people don't necessarily get to see.
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  • I get to see those things and as a photographer,
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  • my job is to pick up a camera and focus in on a scenario.
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  • It's my job as the gift that God's given me,
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  • carrying around my weapon, my tool, is my camera.
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  • So, if I'm gonna point a bright light on selling a pair of
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  • shoes, I can point a bright light on allowing people to
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  • understand that these people are dying here and no one's helping.
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  • So, I want to be there and I want to put myself in a
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  • position where I can shed light on where people may not see
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  • something or maybe people may not have--I love even today we
  • 00:20:05.280 --> 00:20:09.090
  • say people have a voice, but maybe it's not heard and maybe
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  • if I have a platform where people can hear me
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  • and not hear a refugee, cool.
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  • Remember, Jesus was a refugee.
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  • Sarah: So, how has it changed you?
  • 00:20:18.180 --> 00:20:19.270
  • I mean, you've seen these things and then gone back to New York.
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  • How's it affected you as you live out your everyday
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  • normal life?
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  • Joe: Well, you know, sitting in service today,
  • 00:20:26.150 --> 00:20:28.110
  • it was hard to be confronted again with those images
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  • because I get to move on, like, I get to go home.
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  • I get to be with my beautiful wife.
  • 00:20:34.010 --> 00:20:35.120
  • I get to sit here in these beautiful stadium
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  • and get to do this stuff.
  • 00:20:37.030 --> 00:20:38.150
  • You know, we learn that boxer, his brother died, you know,
  • 00:20:38.160 --> 00:20:44.170
  • as he's racing over the boarder at night
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  • to get medicine for him.
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  • You know, we can come in and out of scenarios and we can change
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  • things pretty easily, these people cannot.
  • 00:20:50.210 --> 00:20:54.230
  • And again, not because of what I'm doing but my pictures,
  • 00:20:54.240 --> 00:20:58.100
  • my own pictures reminded me that these people never left.
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  • And a picture is able to maybe become some sort of binary code
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  • that becomes some sort of information that ends up on the
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  • Internet or on pages of a book where it can maybe be
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  • a constant reminder.
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  • Why do we go to church every Sunday?
  • 00:21:12.190 --> 00:21:14.070
  • Because we need Jesus.
  • 00:21:14.080 --> 00:21:15.170
  • Why do we read the Bible every day?
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  • I'm terrible at that, working on it.
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  • But we need to remind ourselves why we exist.
  • 00:21:18.260 --> 00:21:22.060
  • Our job is to spread the good news of the gospel,
  • 00:21:22.070 --> 00:21:24.070
  • is to help champion the cause, the greater cause.
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  • It's not about us, it's about serving people.
  • 00:21:27.040 --> 00:21:29.010
  • And, you know, you have to constantly get to a place
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  • where you're reminding yourself.
  • 00:21:32.060 --> 00:21:33.260
  • And luckily, I'm able to be a part of the community,
  • 00:21:33.270 --> 00:21:37.070
  • a church, that champions that that constantly reminds my soul
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  • that you can't forget about these people.
  • 00:21:40.220 --> 00:21:42.250
  • Niyah: Come on, and this is awesome 'cause you--
  • 00:21:42.260 --> 00:21:45.010
  • the field that you guys have founded, you know,
  • 00:21:45.020 --> 00:21:47.080
  • surfing, professional sports, and photography,
  • 00:21:47.090 --> 00:21:50.090
  • everything like that.
  • 00:21:50.100 --> 00:21:52.050
  • You use your passion for so much more than just what it is,
  • 00:21:52.060 --> 00:21:55.280
  • just for photography, just for surfing.
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  • You know what I'm saying? You're using that platform.
  • 00:21:57.240 --> 00:22:00.040
  • You, your husband said something about sisters.
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  • Tell us a little bit about that.
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  • Kelia: Last year, yeah, last year I decided I wanted to do
  • 00:22:04.150 --> 00:22:06.230
  • something a little bit not for myself and, you know,
  • 00:22:06.240 --> 00:22:09.260
  • I wanted to challenge myself to just do something
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  • for the new generation of females who have to live
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  • under the craziness of, what?
  • 00:22:18.160 --> 00:22:22.120
  • Social media's now.
  • 00:22:22.130 --> 00:22:23.290
  • So, like I said, being a surfer, you were half naked all the time
  • 00:22:24.000 --> 00:22:28.230
  • and these young girls are and they have to struggle
  • 00:22:28.240 --> 00:22:31.190
  • with the--with being insecure about certain things.
  • 00:22:31.200 --> 00:22:37.060
  • And I just like it crushes me to see that because they
  • 00:22:37.070 --> 00:22:40.250
  • see--they're access to see what they think is cool,
  • 00:22:40.260 --> 00:22:45.260
  • and what they think is right, or what they think they should be
  • 00:22:45.270 --> 00:22:49.110
  • like, should look like, should have all this.
  • 00:22:49.120 --> 00:22:51.250
  • I just want to challenge myself to just like,
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  • okay, you obviously have a heart for that,
  • 00:22:53.150 --> 00:22:55.120
  • but let's just do something.
  • 00:22:55.130 --> 00:22:56.220
  • So, I started this little, I would say,
  • 00:22:56.230 --> 00:23:00.070
  • like gang called--my nickname is sister so everyone in Hawaii
  • 00:23:00.080 --> 00:23:05.090
  • everyone kind of, besides obviously my husband,
  • 00:23:05.100 --> 00:23:08.020
  • calls me sister.
  • 00:23:08.030 --> 00:23:10.100
  • So, I just kind of like went off of that and called it With My
  • 00:23:10.110 --> 00:23:14.140
  • Sister and it's basically a day where I invited 15 girls that
  • 00:23:14.150 --> 00:23:19.100
  • surf to come and hang with me who were friends--were not
  • 00:23:19.110 --> 00:23:23.200
  • necessarily friends but I wanted to create a space where they
  • 00:23:23.210 --> 00:23:26.110
  • felt comfortable to talk to me to create a space to kind of
  • 00:23:26.120 --> 00:23:30.000
  • make them feel really beautiful, regardless of what they have and
  • 00:23:30.010 --> 00:23:35.020
  • also to have them come and meet girls who they didn't know and
  • 00:23:35.030 --> 00:23:42.160
  • maybe connect on a level to just be there for each other
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  • because of what I have.
  • 00:23:47.000 --> 00:23:48.210
  • I never had a sister, so I met my sisters on the road
  • 00:23:48.220 --> 00:23:53.130
  • through surfing.
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  • I traveled and with my sponsor called Roxy.
  • 00:23:54.240 --> 00:23:58.100
  • They sent me all over the world with some of the most amazing
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  • girls ever.
  • 00:24:01.220 --> 00:24:03.040
  • And they became my big sisters and without them,
  • 00:24:03.050 --> 00:24:05.180
  • I don't think, again, would have the confidence because of just
  • 00:24:05.190 --> 00:24:09.180
  • the security of unconditional love and push all that
  • 00:24:09.190 --> 00:24:15.210
  • like nonsense aside.
  • 00:24:15.220 --> 00:24:17.170
  • Like, nothing about an image was judged.
  • 00:24:17.180 --> 00:24:21.110
  • It was just about like our hearts and our friendship,
  • 00:24:21.120 --> 00:24:24.110
  • and I just wanted to create a space where girls can come and
  • 00:24:24.120 --> 00:24:26.210
  • have an experience to meet girls from outside their like school
  • 00:24:26.220 --> 00:24:31.180
  • circle and outside of almost a comfort zone,
  • 00:24:31.190 --> 00:24:34.130
  • you know, and to also have like a big sister to come to and ask
  • 00:24:34.140 --> 00:24:37.060
  • questions about growing.
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  • So--
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  • Niyah: You guys are awesome.
  • 00:24:40.230 --> 00:24:42.120
  • You guys are seriously, I love what you guys are doing.
  • 00:24:42.130 --> 00:24:44.090
  • Kelia: I only did one event it's like I'm hoping to do
  • 00:24:44.100 --> 00:24:46.200
  • something in the near future, but it's just I wanted to focus
  • 00:24:46.210 --> 00:24:50.190
  • on young women from ages 14 to 17 and just--and make it a safe
  • 00:24:50.200 --> 00:24:56.130
  • place for them to be and just be able to share their stories.
  • 00:24:56.140 --> 00:24:59.260
  • Niyah: Thank you guys for coming.
  • 00:24:59.270 --> 00:25:02.030
  • Thank you for sharing your stories.
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  • Thank you for sharing what you're doing and how
  • 00:25:03.230 --> 00:25:05.070
  • you're using your platforms just to get out there,
  • 00:25:05.080 --> 00:25:07.230
  • bring awareness for, you know, to other people and young girls.
  • 00:25:07.240 --> 00:25:12.090
  • Seriously, what a blessing.
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  • Sarah: So good, guys. Thank you.
  • 00:25:14.150 --> 00:25:16.060
  • Kelia: Thank you for having us, really.
  • 00:25:16.070 --> 00:25:17.180
  • Niyah: Well, listen guys, thank you for staying with us
  • 00:25:17.190 --> 00:25:19.160
  • and we'll see you next time right here on
  • 00:25:19.170 --> 00:25:21.100
  • "The Colour Green Room."
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  • Bobbie: Next week on "The Green Room" couch,
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  • we have Rose Medwin, not only does she lead the Hillsong
  • 00:25:27.160 --> 00:25:30.180
  • Hobart campus in Tasmania, Australia with her husband Kent,
  • 00:25:30.190 --> 00:25:35.010
  • but she is also a social worker specializing in high-conflict
  • 00:25:35.020 --> 00:25:39.110
  • situations and is also a mother of three children,
  • 00:25:39.120 --> 00:25:42.130
  • one of whom they adopted from Ethiopia.
  • 00:25:42.140 --> 00:25:45.280
  • Rose exemplifies what can happen when you lean into a vision and
  • 00:25:45.290 --> 00:25:49.160
  • a cause bigger than yourself.
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  • I can't wait for you to hear her story.
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