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December 28, 2019
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Creation in the 21st Century with David Rives

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  • - DAVID RIVES: COMING UP ON
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  • "CREATION IN THE 21ST CENTURY":
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  • - JOHN MACKAY: THE PUBLIC
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  • EDUCATION SYSTEM IS BASED ON
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  • ATHEISTIC EVOLUTIONISM,
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  • REGARDLESS OF THE EVIDENCE.
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  • THEY DON'T HAVE MUCH SPACE IN
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  • THEIR BRAINS.
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  • IT'S GOT MAYBE 800 CUBIC
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  • CENTIMETERS...
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  • - DAVID: YEAH.
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  • - JOHN: ...WHEREAS YOU'RE AT
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  • LEAST 1200 CUBIC CENTIMETERS.
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  • WE SHOW ALL THE CHARACTERISTICS
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  • OF GOD AND THE MONKEYS --
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  • THEY WERE MADE BY GOD,
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  • BUT THEY'RE NOT MADE
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  • IN HIS IMAGE.
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  • AND THE REAL PROBLEM IS AN
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  • IMAGE PROBLEM.
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  • SIN HAS DEFACED THAT IMAGE.
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  • [DRAMATIC THEME MUSIC PLAYS]
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • - DAVID RIVES: WELCOME TO
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  • CREATION IN THE 21ST CENTURY,"
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  • WHERE SCIENTIFIC DISCOVERY
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  • CONNECTS WITH YOUR
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  • AND, FOR THE PAST TEN
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  • YEARS, I'VE BEEN ON A
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  • JOURNEY TO BRING PEOPLE
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  • CLOSER TO CHRIST BY SHOWING
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  • THEM THAT HE IS THEIR CREATOR.
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  • YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NO ACCIDENT.
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  • AND THE CREATION ACCOUNT THAT
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  • WE FIND ALL THE WAY BACK IN
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  • GENESIS?
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  • WELL, THAT HOLDS KEYS TO
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  • UNLOCKING AND UNDERSTANDING
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  • LIFE, DEATH, AND WHY WE NEED
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  • A SAVIOR.
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  • WE WANNA GET GOING THIS WEEK BY
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  • LOOKING AT OUR HEAVENS DECLARE
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  • SEGMENT AND WE WANNA LOOK
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  • SPECIFICALLY AT THE BRAIN --
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  • CAN WE REALLY TEACH AN OLD DOG
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  • NEW TRICKS?
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  • WELL, IT'S WELL KNOWN THAT A
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  • CHILD'S BRAIN IS BEST ABLE TO
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  • DEVELOP LANGUAGE SKILLS THAT
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  • SOUND LIKE A NATIVE SPEAKER.
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  • OUR PROCESSING CAPACITY IS SO
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  • FLEXIBLE THAT WE HAVE MANY
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  • DIFFERENT AGES OF
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  • PEAK PERFORMANCE.
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  • FOR EXAMPLE, SHORT-TERM MEMORY
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  • IS AT ITS HEIGHT IN OUR EARLY
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  • 20s, EMOTIONAL PROCESSING IN
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  • OUR 50s, BUT OUR ABILITY TO
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  • CONNECT THE DOTS OF EXPERIENCE,
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  • WORLDVIEW, AND INTUITION ONLY
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  • IMPROVE WITH THE PASSING
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  • DECADES.
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  • NOW, OUR BRAINS WORK
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  • REMARKABLY WELL.
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  • AND THEY'RE THOUGHT TO BE ONE
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  • THOUSAND TIMES MORE
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  • SOPHISTICATED THAN THE ENTIRE
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  • WORLD WIDE WEB!
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  • IT'S NOW KNOWN THAT THE SIZE OF
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  • OUR BRAINS -- THAT'S NOT THE
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  • GREATEST INDICATOR
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  • OF INTELLIGENCE.
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  • THE AVERAGE WOMAN HAS A BRAIN
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  • SEVERAL HUNDRED CCs SMALLER
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  • THAN A MAN.
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  • BUT, WE ALL KNOW THAT THAT FACT
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  • ISN'T GOING TO WIN AN ARGUMENT.
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  • A WHALE HAS A BRAIN ABOUT TWICE
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  • THE SIZE OF OURS.
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  • AND WHILE THEY'RE INTELLIGENT
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  • CREATURES, THEY CAN'T
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  • PHILOSOPHIZE OR COME UP WITH
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  • POWERFUL INVENTIONS LIKE
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  • WE CAN.
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • WE NOW UNDERSTAND THAT THE
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  • NUMBER OF CONNECTIONS IN OUR
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  • BRAIN AND THE PROCESSING SPEED
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  • -- THOSE ARE MUCH MORE
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  • IMPORTANT THAN THE SIZE.
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  • HOWEVER, ARCHAEOLOGISTS ALSO
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  • KNOW THAT HUMAN BRAIN SIZES
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  • HAVE BEEN GROWING SMALLER.
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  • IN FACT, OUR WHOLE BODY SIZE,
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  • ON AVERAGE, HAS BEEN GROWING
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  • SMALLER SINCE THE ICE AGE.
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  • YOU KNOW, I'M GRATEFUL THAT GOD
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  • DOESN'T DECIDE TO LOVE US BASED
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  • ON WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE SMART.
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  • I'M JUST GRATEFUL THAT HE GAVE
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  • US SUCH AN INCREDIBLE TOOL TO
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  • LOVE HIM AND SERVE HIM.
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  • THAT'S OUR BRAIN.
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  • I HOPE THAT THIS WILL ENCOURAGE
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  • YOU TO EXERCISE YOUR BRAIN
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  • TODAY AND EVERY DAY.
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  • I'M DAVID RIVES.
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  • TRULY, THE HEAVENS DECLARE THE
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  • YOU KNOW, WHEN WE EXERCISE OUR
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  • BRAIN, WE FIND OUT A LOT ABOUT
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  • THE WORLD AROUND US.
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  • WHEN WE STUDY SCIENCE,
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  • WE'RE...GETTING CLOSER TO
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  • UNDERSTANDING SO MANY DIFFERENT
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  • THINGS, BUT NOT REALLY GETTING
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  • CLOSER TO UNDERSTANDING LIFE
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  • AND WHERE IT CAME FROM, FROM AN
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  • EVOLUTIONARY STANDPOINT.
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  • YOU SEE, SO MANY PEOPLE TELL US
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  • THAT WE'RE NOTHING MORE THAN
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  • ACCIDENTS, THAT APELIKE
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  • CREATURES HAVE EVOLVED OVER
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  • MILLIONS OF YEARS, AND, FINALLY
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  • -- HERE WE ARE, STANDING TODAY!
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  • WELL, WE WANNA TALK ABOUT
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  • AND FOR THAT, I'VE BROUGHT IN
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  • JOHN MACKAY FROM AUSTRALIA.
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  • HE STUDIED GEOLOGY AT THE
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  • UNIVERSITY OF QUEENSLAND.
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  • AND, OVER THE LAST 30 YEARS,
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  • HE'S BEEN INVOLVED WITH FIELD
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  • RESEARCH ALL AROUND THE WORLD.
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  • HE'S AN INTERNATIONAL SPEAKER,
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  • LECTURING ON THE SUBJECT
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  • OF ORIGINS.
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  • AND HE'S NO STRANGER TO
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  • UNIVERSITY CAMPUSES, EITHER,
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  • WHERE HE'S PARTICIPATED IN MANY
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  • DEBATES REGARDING THE SUBJECT
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  • OF CREATION AND EVOLUTION.
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  • - JOHN MACKAY: AND THERE ISN'T
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  • A SINGLE BABOON WATCHING AND
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  • THAT'S WHAT THE PROGRAM'S
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  • ABOUT.
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  • [DAVID LAUGHS]
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  • - DAVID: IF THEY ARE WATCHING,
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  • THEY CAN'T TELL
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  • WHAT WE'RE SAYING.
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  • - JOHN: HAVE NO IDEA AND WE
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  • CAN PROVE THAT BEYOND A
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  • SHADOW OF A DOUBT.
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  • NEITHER WILL THEY SEND IN A
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  • QUESTION FOR THE QUESTION
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  • SEGMENT.
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  • [DAVID LAUGHS]
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  • - DAVID: JOHN, TELL ME JUST A
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  • LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW
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  • YOU STARTED.
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  • HAVE YOU ALWAYS UNDERSTOOD THE
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  • BIBLICAL WORLDVIEW?
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  • I MEAN, I GREW UP WHERE, EVEN
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  • AS YOU HAD OVER HERE, AS
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  • ENGLAND HAD, THE WHOLE OF THE
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  • ENGLISH-SPEAKING WORLD, YOU
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  • USED TO HAVE PRAYER IN SCHOOLS.
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  • - DAVID: THAT'S TRUE.
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  • - JOHN: RIGHT?
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  • AND, YOU LEARNT THE
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  • LORD'S PRAYER.
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  • YOU MUMBLED IT REALLY QUICKLY.
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  • I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IT.
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  • OUR FATHER, WHOSE AUNT'S IN
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  • HEAVEN, YOU KNOW, DELIVER US
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  • FROM EAGLES.
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  • [DAVID LAUGHS]
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  • THAT WAS WHAT I THOUGHT.
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  • SO, I HAD A MINIMAL
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  • UNDERSTANDING, BUT IT,
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  • NEVERTHELESS, HAD A
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  • BIBLICAL FRAMEWORK.
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  • SO, YOU HAD AN IDEA OF
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  • ACCOUNTABILITY AND PUNISHMENT,
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  • BUT NO PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE OF
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  • JESUS CHRIST.
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  • UH, BY THE TIME I GOT TO HIGH
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  • SCHOOL, THEY HAD BRAINWASHED ME
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  • WITH EVOLUTION.
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  • AND I THOUGHT, "IF I'M JUST AN
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  • ANIMAL, I CAN BEHAVE LIKE ONE,"
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  • AND I DID.
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  • - DAVID: OKAY.
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  • - JOHN: SADLY, I'VE GOT TO
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  • SAY, I WAS SMART ENOUGH TO GET
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  • AWAY WITH IT MOST OF THE TIME.
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  • AND IF I GOT CAUGHT, I WAS
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  • SMART ENOUGH TO FIGURE OUT HOW
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  • NOT TO GET CAUGHT NEXT TIME.
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  • [DAVID LAUGHS]
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  • BUT THE MONKEYS WEREN'T, RIGHT?
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  • AND SO, THERE WAS ALWAYS A VERY
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  • OBVIOUS DIFFERENCE.
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  • SO, WHEN YOU VISITED A ZOO, YOU
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  • DIDN'T GO TO SEE YOUR RELATIVES
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  • 'CAUSE THEY WERE SO DIFFERENT.
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  • - DAVID: AH...
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  • - JOHN: AND YET, WE WERE
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  • BRAINWASHED TO BELIEVE THEY
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  • WERE SO SIMILAR.
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  • SO, THAT'S WHY WE PUT THIS
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  • PROGRAM TOGETHER.
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  • SO, THAT'S MY BACKGROUND.
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  • BECAME A CHRISTIAN.
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  • BECAME AWARE OF THE BIBLE'S
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  • TEACHING -- WE'RE MADE IN
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  • GOD'S IMAGE.
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  • AND THE REAL PROBLEM IS AN
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  • IMAGE PROBLEM.
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  • SIN HAS DEFACED THAT IMAGE.
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  • - DAVID: WELL, NOW, YOU SPEAK
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  • TO AUDIENCES OF ALL DIFFERENT
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  • AGES, BUT, YOU WROTE A BOOK
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  • MORE FOR CHILDREN CALLED
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  • "ADAM AND EVE AND THE MONKEYS
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  • IN THE TREES."
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  • - JOHN: WE DID.
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  • WE HAD A COUPLE OF PARENTS LAST
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  • YEAR, UM, IN AUSTRALIA SAY:
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  • "HELP!
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  • OUR KINDERGARTEN KIDS ARE BEING
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  • BOMBARDED WITH EVOLUTION."
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  • AND THEY SAID,
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  • "HAVE YOU GOT ANY?"
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  • I SAID, "NO."
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  • AND I LOOKED AROUND THE WORLD.
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  • THERE WAS NO SUCH THINGS.
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  • SO, I SAID TO OUR STAFF: "WE'VE
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  • GOTTA COME UP-- I MEAN,
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  • IT'S SO SIMPLE.
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  • HOW DIFFERENT ARE THE
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  • MONKEYS FROM US?"
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  • THEY'RE NOT WATCHING THE SHOW.
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  • THEY'RE NOT AS-- THEY'RE NOT
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  • PHONING UP.
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  • THERE'S NO FIRST BAPTIST MONKEY
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  • CHURCH IN TOWN, RIGHT?
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  • [DAVID LAUGHS]
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  • SO, WE PUT ALL OF THESE FUNNY
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  • THOUGHTS INTO A BOOK FOR KIDS
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  • AND THE PARENTS AND THE KIDS
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  • HAVE LOVED IT, 'CAUSE THEY NEED
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  • TO GROW UP WE ARE DIFFERENT,
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  • LEARNING WE ARE MADE IN GOD'S
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  • IMAGE, AND LEARNING WHAT THE
  • 00:07:19.240 --> 00:07:21.150
  • REAL SOLUTION TO OUR HUMAN
  • 00:07:21.150 --> 00:07:22.090
  • PROBLEM IS.
  • 00:07:22.090 --> 00:07:23.140
  • - DAVID: ALL RIGHT, SO JUST A
  • 00:07:23.140 --> 00:07:25.090
  • LITTLE BIT PAST THIS AGE, OR
  • 00:07:25.090 --> 00:07:26.100
  • MAYBE EVEN AT THIS AGE, THEY'RE
  • 00:07:26.100 --> 00:07:28.050
  • GOING TO START LEARNING THAT
  • 00:07:28.050 --> 00:07:29.010
  • THEIR ANCESTORS--
  • 00:07:29.010 --> 00:07:30.000
  • - JOHN: NO.
  • 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:31.060
  • THEY NEED TO BE READY BEFORE
  • 00:07:31.060 --> 00:07:32.170
  • THEY GET TO SCHOOL, NOW,
  • 00:07:32.170 --> 00:07:33.160
  • BECAUSE THE PARENTS SAID
  • 00:07:33.160 --> 00:07:34.240
  • THEY'RE BEING BRAINWASHED AT
  • 00:07:34.240 --> 00:07:36.070
  • THREE AND FOUR YEARS OF AGE.
  • 00:07:36.070 --> 00:07:37.080
  • - DAVID: YES!
  • 00:07:37.080 --> 00:07:37.270
  • - JOHN: I THOUGHT, "AW, NO!"
  • 00:07:37.270 --> 00:07:39.090
  • AND ONE PARENT SAID, "WE'RE SO
  • 00:07:39.090 --> 00:07:40.050
  • GLAD YOU'VE DONE THIS."
  • 00:07:40.050 --> 00:07:40.260
  • 'CAUSE OUR KINDERGARTEN HAS
  • 00:07:40.260 --> 00:07:42.080
  • BEEN GIVEN BOOKS BY THE
  • 00:07:42.080 --> 00:07:44.120
  • GOVERNMENT: "LITTLE JOHNNY'S
  • 00:07:44.120 --> 00:07:46.030
  • GOT TWO DADDIES,"
  • 00:07:46.030 --> 00:07:46.180
  • "LITTLE SUZY'S GOT TWO
  • 00:07:46.180 --> 00:07:47.060
  • MOMMIES."
  • 00:07:47.060 --> 00:07:48.120
  • LITTLE BILLY, AT THREE, IS
  • 00:07:48.120 --> 00:07:49.010
  • TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF
  • 00:07:49.010 --> 00:07:49.190
  • HE'S A GIRL!
  • 00:07:49.190 --> 00:07:50.050
  • ALL RIGHT?
  • 00:07:50.050 --> 00:07:51.190
  • AND THAT'S THE WAY THE WORLD IS.
  • 00:07:51.190 --> 00:07:52.160
  • SO, WE'RE GLAD-- THERE'S A
  • 00:07:52.160 --> 00:07:53.210
  • WHOLE SERIES OF THESE, NOW,
  • 00:07:53.210 --> 00:07:54.290
  • THAT WE'VE DONE TO HELP PARENTS
  • 00:07:54.290 --> 00:07:56.180
  • GET THEIR KIDS READY FOR THEIR
  • 00:07:56.180 --> 00:07:58.260
  • ONSLAUGHT THEY'RE FACING, EVEN,
  • 00:07:58.260 --> 00:08:00.070
  • SADLY, IN MANY CHURCH AND
  • 00:08:00.070 --> 00:08:00.260
  • CHRISTIAN SCHOOLS.
  • 00:08:00.260 --> 00:08:02.040
  • - DAVID: I LOVE IT.
  • 00:08:02.040 --> 00:08:03.110
  • WELL, NOW, WHEN THE CHILD GROWS
  • 00:08:03.110 --> 00:08:04.210
  • UP AND HE GOES TO UNIVERSITY,
  • 00:08:04.210 --> 00:08:06.190
  • WHEN SHE GOES TO A COLLEGE, IN
  • 00:08:06.190 --> 00:08:08.270
  • AMERICA, AT LEAST, AND I DON'T
  • 00:08:08.270 --> 00:08:10.200
  • KNOW ABOUT YOUR STATISTICS,
  • 00:08:10.200 --> 00:08:11.260
  • BUT, IF THEY TAKE A BIOLOGY
  • 00:08:11.260 --> 00:08:14.170
  • CLASS, THERE IS OVER A 60
  • 00:08:14.170 --> 00:08:16.060
  • PERCENT CHANCE THAT THAT
  • 00:08:16.060 --> 00:08:17.120
  • BIOLOGY PROFESSOR IS GOING TO
  • 00:08:17.120 --> 00:08:18.130
  • BE SELF-PROFESSED ATHEIST
  • 00:08:18.130 --> 00:08:19.060
  • OR AGNOSTIC.
  • 00:08:19.060 --> 00:08:21.160
  • AND THE PROFESSOR IS GOING TO,
  • 00:08:21.160 --> 00:08:22.080
  • THEN, TELL THEM: "AH, WE'RE SO
  • 00:08:22.080 --> 00:08:23.240
  • SIMILAR TO THE APES THAT WE'RE,
  • 00:08:23.240 --> 00:08:25.090
  • YOU KNOW, A FEW PERCENT
  • 00:08:25.090 --> 00:08:27.200
  • DIFFERENT."
  • 00:08:27.200 --> 00:08:28.170
  • ISN'T THAT RIGHT?
  • 00:08:28.170 --> 00:08:29.030
  • - JOHN: YOU WILL FIND THAT'S
  • 00:08:29.030 --> 00:08:29.240
  • TRUE.
  • 00:08:29.240 --> 00:08:30.150
  • AND THE PERCENTAGE IS NOT THE
  • 00:08:30.150 --> 00:08:31.080
  • MUCH DIFFERENT.
  • 00:08:31.080 --> 00:08:32.090
  • LITTLE BIT MORE, LITTLE BIT
  • 00:08:32.090 --> 00:08:32.290
  • LESS.
  • 00:08:32.290 --> 00:08:33.130
  • I HAD ONE HIGH SCHOOL IN WALES.
  • 00:08:33.130 --> 00:08:34.160
  • PUBLIC HIGH SCHOOL.
  • 00:08:34.160 --> 00:08:36.030
  • AND THERE WAS ONE CHRISTIAN
  • 00:08:36.030 --> 00:08:37.060
  • STUDENT IN THE CLASS --
  • 00:08:37.060 --> 00:08:38.140
  • AND, PRIVATELY, I DISCOVERED
  • 00:08:38.140 --> 00:08:41.130
  • THAT THE TEACHER HAD SAID TO HER
  • 00:08:41.130 --> 00:08:43.070
  • AT THE START OF THE YEAR,
  • 00:08:43.070 --> 00:08:44.240
  • "HANDS UP,
  • 00:08:44.240 --> 00:08:46.080
  • WHO BELIEVES IN CREATION?"
  • 00:08:46.080 --> 00:08:46.270
  • -- SHE PUT HER HAND UP AS A
  • 00:08:46.270 --> 00:08:48.100
  • CHRISTIAN AND THE TEACHER SAID:
  • 00:08:48.100 --> 00:08:49.070
  • "WELL, YOU COME DOWN THE FRONT.
  • 00:08:49.070 --> 00:08:50.010
  • YOU'RE THE DUNCE."
  • 00:08:50.010 --> 00:08:51.060
  • ALL RIGHT?
  • 00:08:51.060 --> 00:08:51.200
  • "YOU ARE THE ONE.
  • 00:08:51.200 --> 00:08:52.130
  • YOU'LL NEVER PASS BIOLOGY."
  • 00:08:52.130 --> 00:08:54.220
  • NOW, THE FUNNY THING WAS, SHE
  • 00:08:54.220 --> 00:08:55.190
  • ENDED UP WITH DISTINCTIONS.
  • 00:08:55.190 --> 00:08:57.040
  • [DAVID LAUGHS]
  • 00:08:57.040 --> 00:08:57.280
  • BECAUSE ONLY SOMEONE WHO KNOWS
  • 00:08:57.280 --> 00:08:59.080
  • THE TRUTH CAN ACTUALLY
  • 00:08:59.080 --> 00:09:00.180
  • RECOGNIZE ERROR AND HAVE WISDOM
  • 00:09:00.180 --> 00:09:02.160
  • FROM GOD TO ACTUALLY,
  • 00:09:02.160 --> 00:09:03.250
  • LIKE DANIEL, MANOEUVER THROUGH
  • 00:09:03.250 --> 00:09:04.250
  • THE PAGAN WORLD.
  • 00:09:04.250 --> 00:09:05.160
  • - DAVID: YEAH!
  • 00:09:05.160 --> 00:09:06.210
  • - JOHN: SO, YES, IT'S A PRETTY
  • 00:09:06.210 --> 00:09:07.160
  • SIMILAR AND SAD STATISTIC.
  • 00:09:08.290 --> 00:09:11.290
  • THE PUBLIC EDUCATION SYSTEM IS
  • 00:09:11.290 --> 00:09:12.200
  • BASED ON ATHEISTIC
  • 00:09:12.200 --> 00:09:13.280
  • EVOLUTIONISM, ON WORLD
  • 00:09:13.280 --> 00:09:14.220
  • BEING MILLIONS YEARS OLD --
  • 00:09:14.220 --> 00:09:16.050
  • REGARDLESS OF THE EVIDENCE.
  • 00:09:16.050 --> 00:09:17.220
  • - DAVID: WE'RE GONNA BE
  • 00:09:17.220 --> 00:09:18.230
  • COMBATING THIS.
  • 00:09:18.230 --> 00:09:19.070
  • THERE'S NO DOUBT.
  • 00:09:19.070 --> 00:09:20.000
  • THE NEXT GENERATION IS GOING TO
  • 00:09:20.000 --> 00:09:20.220
  • BE COMBATING THIS.
  • 00:09:20.220 --> 00:09:21.250
  • THERE IS NO DOUBT, WHICH MEANS
  • 00:09:21.250 --> 00:09:22.220
  • WE DO HAVE TO BE EQUIPPED.
  • 00:09:22.220 --> 00:09:24.250
  • WE HAVE TO KNOW THESE ANSWERS
  • 00:09:24.250 --> 00:09:26.070
  • TO DEFEND OUR FAITH.
  • 00:09:26.070 --> 00:09:28.210
  • - JOHN: DO YOU KNOW WHAT I DO?
  • 00:09:28.210 --> 00:09:29.220
  • SIMPLE.
  • 00:09:29.220 --> 00:09:31.110
  • I GET THE KIDS TO PUT THEIR
  • 00:09:31.110 --> 00:09:32.010
  • HAND UP IN CLASS.
  • 00:09:32.010 --> 00:09:32.170
  • - DAVID: OKAY.
  • 00:09:32.170 --> 00:09:33.050
  • - JOHN: AND THEN, I SAY: "WHO
  • 00:09:33.050 --> 00:09:34.080
  • CAN DO THAT?"
  • 00:09:34.080 --> 00:09:34.210
  • - DAVID: UH-HUH.
  • 00:09:34.210 --> 00:09:35.070
  • - JOHN: "WHO CAN DO THAT?
  • 00:09:35.070 --> 00:09:36.050
  • WHO CAN DOT THAT?
  • 00:09:36.050 --> 00:09:37.060
  • WHO CAN DO THAT?"
  • 00:09:37.060 --> 00:09:37.270
  • AND, THEY CAN ALL DO THAT.
  • 00:09:37.270 --> 00:09:38.200
  • - DAVID: YEAH.
  • 00:09:38.200 --> 00:09:39.060
  • - JOHN: AND I SAID, "WELL, THE
  • 00:09:39.060 --> 00:09:40.060
  • MONKEYS CAN'T DO THAT."
  • 00:09:40.060 --> 00:09:40.290
  • RIGHT?
  • 00:09:40.290 --> 00:09:41.260
  • - DAVID: INTERESTING.
  • 00:09:41.260 --> 00:09:42.130
  • - JOHN: BECAUSE THEY CAN'T
  • 00:09:42.130 --> 00:09:43.130
  • TOUCH THEIR LITTLE FINGER WITH
  • 00:09:43.130 --> 00:09:44.170
  • THEIR THUMB.
  • 00:09:44.170 --> 00:09:46.180
  • AND ONE RESULT OF THAT IS YOU
  • 00:09:46.180 --> 00:09:47.130
  • CAN TAKE A PEN, WRITE
  • 00:09:47.130 --> 00:09:48.190
  • A NICE LETTER.
  • 00:09:48.190 --> 00:09:49.160
  • OR YOU CAN ACTUALLY PAINT LIKE
  • 00:09:49.160 --> 00:09:51.040
  • REMBRANDT COULD BECAUSE YOU'VE
  • 00:09:51.040 --> 00:09:53.110
  • GOT ALL THE FINE MOTOR SKILLS
  • 00:09:53.110 --> 00:09:55.130
  • AND THEY DON'T, REGARDLESS OF
  • 00:09:55.130 --> 00:09:56.210
  • THE CLAIM WE'RE SO LIKE THEM,
  • 00:09:56.240 --> 00:09:59.240
  • REGARDLESS OF THE FACT THAT YOU
  • 00:09:59.240 --> 00:10:00.160
  • VISIT THE ZOO AND THE
  • 00:10:00.160 --> 00:10:01.160
  • ADVERTISING SAYS, "MEET YOUR
  • 00:10:01.160 --> 00:10:02.090
  • RELATIVES THIS WEEKEND!"
  • 00:10:02.090 --> 00:10:02.270
  • RIGHT?
  • 00:10:02.270 --> 00:10:03.200
  • YOUR RELATIVES ARE BEHIND THE
  • 00:10:03.200 --> 00:10:04.170
  • CAGE AND YOU'RE IN THE FRONT.
  • 00:10:04.170 --> 00:10:06.240
  • THE MONKEYS DON'T COME TO VISIT
  • 00:10:06.240 --> 00:10:08.130
  • YOU; YOU GO TO VISIT THEM.
  • 00:10:08.130 --> 00:10:09.090
  • AND EVEN IF YOU SAY, "OH, IT
  • 00:10:09.090 --> 00:10:11.150
  • LOOKS JUST LIKE MY BABY
  • 00:10:11.150 --> 00:10:12.210
  • BROTHER," -- RIGHT? --
  • 00:10:12.210 --> 00:10:13.160
  • AND YOUR BABY BROTHER
  • 00:10:13.160 --> 00:10:14.090
  • GOES PUNCH -- RIGHT? --
  • 00:10:14.090 --> 00:10:15.040
  • THEY ARE ACTUALLY SO DIFFERENT
  • 00:10:15.040 --> 00:10:16.060
  • 'CAUSE THEY CAN'T DO THAT.
  • 00:10:16.060 --> 00:10:17.100
  • - DAVID: OKAY!
  • 00:10:17.100 --> 00:10:18.070
  • - JOHN: IF I WAS ACTUALLY TO
  • 00:10:18.070 --> 00:10:19.160
  • GET THEM TO HOLD THEIR LEFT LEG
  • 00:10:19.160 --> 00:10:20.130
  • UP AND TOUCH THEIR TOES, YOU
  • 00:10:20.130 --> 00:10:22.230
  • CAN'T DO THAT!
  • 00:10:22.230 --> 00:10:24.160
  • - DAVID: YEAH.
  • 00:10:24.160 --> 00:10:25.140
  • - JOHN: BUT THAT'S WHY THEY
  • 00:10:25.140 --> 00:10:26.260
  • CAN HOLD UPSIDE DOWN ON A TREE.
  • 00:10:26.260 --> 00:10:28.020
  • AND IF YOU TRY HOLDING ONTO A
  • 00:10:28.020 --> 00:10:29.160
  • TREE BRANCH WITH YOUR TOES --
  • 00:10:29.160 --> 00:10:30.180
  • AAAAGH!
  • 00:10:30.180 --> 00:10:31.040
  • -- SPLAT, RIGHT?
  • 00:10:31.040 --> 00:10:32.140
  • SO, THE DIFFERENCES ARE SO
  • 00:10:32.140 --> 00:10:33.060
  • INCREDIBLE.
  • 00:10:33.060 --> 00:10:34.090
  • - DAVID: OKAY.
  • 00:10:34.090 --> 00:10:35.020
  • - JOHN: NOW, HAVE YOU NOTICED
  • 00:10:35.020 --> 00:10:36.000
  • HOW THEY WALK?
  • 00:10:36.000 --> 00:10:36.270
  • - DAVID: YES.
  • 00:10:36.270 --> 00:10:37.280
  • I DID.
  • 00:10:37.280 --> 00:10:38.290
  • - JOHN: HOW DO THEY WALK?
  • 00:10:38.290 --> 00:10:39.290
  • - DAVID: WELL, USUALLY ON FOUR
  • 00:10:39.290 --> 00:10:40.260
  • LEGS, LIKE THIS.
  • 00:10:40.260 --> 00:10:41.210
  • - JOHN: WHY?
  • 00:10:41.210 --> 00:10:42.060
  • - DAVID: AH...
  • 00:10:42.060 --> 00:10:43.000
  • I HAVE NEVER REALLY THOUGHT
  • 00:10:43.000 --> 00:10:44.270
  • ABOUT IT.
  • 00:10:44.270 --> 00:10:45.160
  • - JOHN: OKAY.
  • 00:10:45.160 --> 00:10:46.000
  • I'LL TELL YOU WHAT YOU CAN
  • 00:10:46.000 --> 00:10:46.200
  • FIND OUT.
  • 00:10:46.200 --> 00:10:47.140
  • THEY'VE GOT HANDS ON THEIR
  • 00:10:47.140 --> 00:10:48.100
  • HANDS...
  • 00:10:48.100 --> 00:10:49.060
  • - DAVID: OKAY.
  • 00:10:49.060 --> 00:10:50.230
  • - JOHN: ...AND THEIR FEET HAVE
  • 00:10:50.230 --> 00:10:51.150
  • GOT THUMBS.
  • 00:10:51.150 --> 00:10:52.030
  • SO, YOU'VE GOT TWO HANDS...
  • 00:10:52.030 --> 00:10:53.120
  • - DAVID: YEAH.
  • 00:10:53.120 --> 00:10:54.000
  • - JOHN: ...AND YOU'VE GOT
  • 00:10:54.000 --> 00:10:54.190
  • TWO THUMBS.
  • 00:10:54.190 --> 00:10:55.020
  • - DAVID: OKAY.
  • 00:10:55.020 --> 00:10:55.280
  • - JOHN: AND YOU'VE GOT
  • 00:10:55.280 --> 00:10:56.190
  • TWO FEET.
  • 00:10:56.190 --> 00:10:57.170
  • THEY'VE GOT FOUR HANDS BECAUSE
  • 00:10:57.170 --> 00:10:59.210
  • THEY'VE GOT FOUR THUMBS.
  • 00:10:59.210 --> 00:11:01.030
  • THEY'VE GOT THUMBS ON
  • 00:11:01.030 --> 00:11:02.200
  • THEIR FEET.
  • 00:11:02.200 --> 00:11:03.120
  • THAT'S WHY THEY CAN HOLD ONTO
  • 00:11:03.120 --> 00:11:04.070
  • THE BRANCHES.
  • 00:11:04.070 --> 00:11:04.230
  • - DAVID: OKAY.
  • 00:11:04.230 --> 00:11:05.150
  • - JOHN: RIGHT?
  • 00:11:05.150 --> 00:11:06.080
  • YOU DON'T HAVE THUMBS ON
  • 00:11:06.080 --> 00:11:06.260
  • YOUR FEET.
  • 00:11:06.260 --> 00:11:07.120
  • THAT'S WHY YOU CAN WALK UPRIGHT
  • 00:11:07.120 --> 00:11:08.120
  • SO EASILY.
  • 00:11:08.120 --> 00:11:09.090
  • AND IF THOSE PEOPLE ARE OUT
  • 00:11:09.090 --> 00:11:11.150
  • THERE WATCHING, IF YOU WANT TO
  • 00:11:11.150 --> 00:11:12.220
  • RUN AN EXPERIMENT, YOU WILL
  • 00:11:12.220 --> 00:11:13.130
  • HAVE NOTICED THAT KIDS
  • 00:11:13.130 --> 00:11:14.080
  • SOMETIMES LIKE TO STAND UPSIDE
  • 00:11:14.080 --> 00:11:15.150
  • DOWN AND WALK ON THEIR HANDS?
  • 00:11:15.150 --> 00:11:16.270
  • - DAVID: YEAH...
  • 00:11:16.270 --> 00:11:17.130
  • - JOHN: OKAY, GO AND DO IT.
  • 00:11:17.130 --> 00:11:18.190
  • AND THEN, TRY TO WALK FROM HERE
  • 00:11:18.190 --> 00:11:20.100
  • TO NASHVILLE, FROM DALLAS.
  • 00:11:20.100 --> 00:11:21.080
  • [DAVID LAUGHS]
  • 00:11:21.080 --> 00:11:21.250
  • WHAT YOU'LL DISCOVER IS THAT
  • 00:11:21.250 --> 00:11:23.140
  • HANDS ARE REALLY GOOD FOR
  • 00:11:23.140 --> 00:11:24.120
  • DOING THAT.
  • 00:11:24.120 --> 00:11:25.020
  • FEET ARE REALLY GOOD
  • 00:11:25.020 --> 00:11:26.000
  • FOR DOING THAT.
  • 00:11:26.000 --> 00:11:26.200
  • AS THE YOUNG GIRLS LEARN AT
  • 00:11:26.200 --> 00:11:28.230
  • SELF-DEFENSE, SOMEONE GRABS YOU
  • 00:11:28.230 --> 00:11:31.060
  • AROUND, THEY WANNA MOLEST YOU
  • 00:11:31.060 --> 00:11:31.270
  • OR ANYTHING, JUST GRAB THEIR
  • 00:11:31.270 --> 00:11:32.170
  • FINGER AND GO THAT.
  • 00:11:32.170 --> 00:11:34.070
  • - DAVID: YES.
  • 00:11:34.070 --> 00:11:34.240
  • IT'S VERY SENSITIVE.
  • 00:11:34.240 --> 00:11:35.200
  • - JOHN: YOU CAN'T GET
  • 00:11:35.200 --> 00:11:36.200
  • SOMEONE'S TOE AND GO THAT,
  • 00:11:36.200 --> 00:11:37.120
  • BECAUSE YOUR TOE'S DESIGNED
  • 00:11:37.120 --> 00:11:38.050
  • TO DO THAT, RIGHT?
  • 00:11:38.050 --> 00:11:38.290
  • - DAVID: RIGHT.
  • 00:11:38.290 --> 00:11:39.230
  • - JOHN: YOUR HAND'S NOT.
  • 00:11:39.230 --> 00:11:40.200
  • SO, WE HAVE TWO HANDS,
  • 00:11:40.200 --> 00:11:42.050
  • THEY HAVE FOUR.
  • 00:11:42.050 --> 00:11:43.220
  • A SIMPLE DIFFERENCE, BUT YOU
  • 00:11:43.220 --> 00:11:45.050
  • KNOW WHAT THE RESULT IS?
  • 00:11:45.050 --> 00:11:45.290
  • THE WAY YOU WALK.
  • 00:11:45.290 --> 00:11:47.200
  • BECAUSE THEY CAN'T WALK VERY
  • 00:11:47.200 --> 00:11:49.100
  • FAR ON THEIR HANDS AND THEY'VE
  • 00:11:49.100 --> 00:11:51.110
  • GOT FOUR OF THEM.
  • 00:11:51.110 --> 00:11:52.080
  • - DAVID: OKAY.
  • 00:11:52.080 --> 00:11:52.260
  • - JOHN: AND IF YOU CAN'T
  • 00:11:52.260 --> 00:11:53.210
  • WALK VERY FAR ON YOUR HANDS,
  • 00:11:53.210 --> 00:11:54.160
  • YOU END UP ON ALL FOUR.
  • 00:11:54.160 --> 00:11:56.030
  • BUT IF YOU END UP ON ALL FOUR,
  • 00:11:56.030 --> 00:11:58.140
  • YOU END UP WITH AN INTERESTING
  • 00:11:58.140 --> 00:11:59.140
  • PROBLEM.
  • 00:11:59.140 --> 00:12:00.030
  • YOU SEE, WHEN YOU STAND, YOU'VE
  • 00:12:00.030 --> 00:12:01.170
  • GOT LEGS THERE, LEGS THERE, AND
  • 00:12:01.170 --> 00:12:02.250
  • YOUR HEAD HANGS OVER THE END.
  • 00:12:02.250 --> 00:12:04.070
  • - DAVID: YEAH.
  • 00:12:04.070 --> 00:12:05.140
  • - JOHN: RIGHT?
  • 00:12:05.140 --> 00:12:06.030
  • SO, THAT MEANS THE WEIGHT OF
  • 00:12:06.030 --> 00:12:06.230
  • YOUR HEAD MUST BE BALANCED BY
  • 00:12:06.230 --> 00:12:08.080
  • THE STRUCTURE OF YOUR BACKBONE.
  • 00:12:08.080 --> 00:12:09.280
  • - DAVID: OH...
  • 00:12:09.280 --> 00:12:10.280
  • - JOHN: SO, THEREFORE, YOUR
  • 00:12:10.280 --> 00:12:11.240
  • HEAD HANGS DOWN, YOUR BACKBONE
  • 00:12:11.240 --> 00:12:12.290
  • MUST SHAPE UP LIKE THAT.
  • 00:12:12.290 --> 00:12:14.020
  • - DAVID: UH-HUH.
  • 00:12:14.020 --> 00:12:14.230
  • - JOHN: NOW, IF YOU WENT TO
  • 00:12:14.230 --> 00:12:16.140
  • YOUR DOCTOR AS A HUMAN BEING
  • 00:12:16.140 --> 00:12:18.140
  • AND HE SAID, "OH, LOOK AT YOUR
  • 00:12:18.140 --> 00:12:19.250
  • BACKBONE!" -- RIGHT? -- YOU'D
  • 00:12:19.250 --> 00:12:20.210
  • BE RUSHED OFF TO HOSPITAL
  • 00:12:20.210 --> 00:12:21.100
  • STRAIGHT AWAY.
  • 00:12:22.040 --> 00:12:25.040
  • THAT'S BECAUSE YOUR DESIGNED TO
  • 00:12:25.040 --> 00:12:26.000
  • HAVE YOUR WEIGHT WAY UP HERE,
  • 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:27.010
  • WHEREAS THE WEIGHT ON A MONKEY
  • 00:12:27.010 --> 00:12:27.280
  • HANGS ON THE BACKBONE.
  • 00:12:27.280 --> 00:12:29.050
  • AND IF IT DIDN'T, YOU SEE, IT'S
  • 00:12:29.050 --> 00:12:30.150
  • GOTTA PUT ITS HEAD UP.
  • 00:12:30.150 --> 00:12:31.020
  • OTHERWISE, IT WOULD RUN INTO
  • 00:12:31.020 --> 00:12:33.030
  • EVERY TREE, RIGHT?
  • 00:12:33.030 --> 00:12:35.190
  • - DAVID: RIGHT...
  • 00:12:35.190 --> 00:12:36.070
  • - JOHN: SO, HOW DO YOU THINK
  • 00:12:36.070 --> 00:12:37.000
  • IT HOLDS ITS HEAD UP?
  • 00:12:37.000 --> 00:12:37.190
  • - DAVID: WELL, MAYBE...
  • 00:12:37.190 --> 00:12:39.070
  • MUSCLES?
  • 00:12:39.070 --> 00:12:40.040
  • - JOHN: MUSCLES.
  • 00:12:40.040 --> 00:12:40.290
  • - DAVID: OKAY.
  • 00:12:40.290 --> 00:12:41.150
  • - JOHN: OKAY?
  • 00:12:41.150 --> 00:12:42.160
  • NOW, I WAS ACTUALLY LOOKING AT
  • 00:12:42.160 --> 00:12:43.260
  • MY YOUNG OFFSIDER, WHO WORKS IN
  • 00:12:43.260 --> 00:12:45.130
  • CREATION RESEARCH -- NOW, YOUNG
  • 00:12:45.130 --> 00:12:46.140
  • JOSEPH, YOU'VE MET JOSEPH,
  • 00:12:46.140 --> 00:12:47.030
  • RIGHT?
  • 00:12:47.030 --> 00:12:47.230
  • - DAVID: ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:12:47.230 --> 00:12:49.160
  • - JOHN: AND HE WAS ON HIS
  • 00:12:49.160 --> 00:12:51.030
  • LAPTOP FOR HOURS.
  • 00:12:51.030 --> 00:12:51.180
  • THEN, ALL OF A SUDDEN,
  • 00:12:51.180 --> 00:12:52.140
  • HE WENT...
  • 00:12:52.140 --> 00:12:54.200
  • [GROANS]
  • 00:12:54.200 --> 00:12:55.040
  • RIGHT?
  • 00:12:55.040 --> 00:12:55.180
  • AND I SAID, "THAT'S BECAUSE
  • 00:12:55.180 --> 00:12:56.080
  • YOU'RE NOT A MONKEY."
  • 00:12:56.080 --> 00:12:56.280
  • YOU KNOW, THE GORILLA.
  • 00:12:56.280 --> 00:12:59.230
  • - DAVID: UH-HUH.
  • 00:12:59.230 --> 00:13:00.170
  • - JOHN: THEY HANG THEIR HEADS
  • 00:13:00.170 --> 00:13:01.080
  • ALL THE TIME.
  • 00:13:01.080 --> 00:13:01.230
  • AND YOUR HEAD IS MEANT TO BE
  • 00:13:01.230 --> 00:13:02.130
  • UPRIGHT -- A HINT, HINT, WINK,
  • 00:13:02.130 --> 00:13:03.170
  • WINK -- BY SOME OF THOSE
  • 00:13:03.170 --> 00:13:04.210
  • VERTICAL COMPUTERS.
  • 00:13:04.210 --> 00:13:06.060
  • YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ACTUALLY WORK
  • 00:13:06.060 --> 00:13:07.100
  • WITH YOUR HEAD UPRIGHT.
  • 00:13:07.100 --> 00:13:08.030
  • - DAVID: RIGHT.
  • 00:13:08.030 --> 00:13:09.020
  • - JOHN: BUT, THE END RESULT IS
  • 00:13:09.020 --> 00:13:09.250
  • THEY DON'T HAVE MUCH SPACE IN
  • 00:13:09.250 --> 00:13:10.260
  • THEIR BRAINS.
  • 00:13:10.260 --> 00:13:11.160
  • WHAT COMES NEXT?
  • 00:13:11.160 --> 00:13:12.180
  • WHY AREN'T YOU A MONKEY
  • 00:13:12.180 --> 00:13:15.050
  • INTERVIEWING ME?
  • 00:13:15.050 --> 00:13:16.080
  • - DAVID: WELL...BECAUSE THEY
  • 00:13:16.080 --> 00:13:16.290
  • CAN'T TALK.
  • 00:13:17.030 --> 00:13:20.030
  • - JOHN: GOOD.
  • 00:13:20.030 --> 00:13:20.200
  • YOU KNOW WHY NOT?
  • 00:13:20.200 --> 00:13:21.050
  • THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM IN
  • 00:13:21.050 --> 00:13:21.240
  • THERE FOR A SPEECH PROGRAM.
  • 00:13:21.240 --> 00:13:22.210
  • - DAVID: OKAY.
  • 00:13:22.210 --> 00:13:23.060
  • - JOHN: AND I KID YOU NOT,
  • 00:13:23.060 --> 00:13:24.080
  • RIGHT?
  • 00:13:24.080 --> 00:13:24.210
  • - DAVID: OKAY.
  • 00:13:24.210 --> 00:13:25.050
  • - JOHN: SO, WHEN YOU LOOK AT
  • 00:13:25.050 --> 00:13:25.260
  • THE MONKEY, IT'S GOT, MAYBE,
  • 00:13:25.260 --> 00:13:26.190
  • 800 CUBIC CENTIMETERS...
  • 00:13:26.190 --> 00:13:27.240
  • - DAVID: YEAH.
  • 00:13:27.240 --> 00:13:28.090
  • - JOHN: ...WHEREAS, YOU'RE AT
  • 00:13:28.090 --> 00:13:29.080
  • LEAST 1200 CUBIC CENTIMETERS.
  • 00:13:29.080 --> 00:13:30.050
  • - DAVID: OKAY.
  • 00:13:30.050 --> 00:13:31.050
  • - JOHN: NOW, THAT'S AN
  • 00:13:31.050 --> 00:13:31.290
  • INCREDIBLE DIFFERENCE IN
  • 00:13:31.290 --> 00:13:32.230
  • MEGABYTES.
  • 00:13:32.230 --> 00:13:33.160
  • - DAVID: YEAH!
  • 00:13:33.160 --> 00:13:34.120
  • - JOHN: AND YOU'VE GOT A
  • 00:13:34.120 --> 00:13:36.040
  • SPEECH PROGRAM BUILT IN THERE.
  • 00:13:36.040 --> 00:13:37.070
  • SO, MONKEYS CAN GO...
  • 00:13:37.070 --> 00:13:39.030
  • [MIMICS MONKEY GRUNTING]
  • 00:13:39.030 --> 00:13:40.020
  • [DAVID LAUGHS]
  • 00:13:40.020 --> 00:13:40.230
  • AND THEY CAN COMMUNICATE.
  • 00:13:40.230 --> 00:13:41.250
  • BUT COMMUNICATING IS
  • 00:13:41.250 --> 00:13:42.270
  • NOT SPEECH.
  • 00:13:42.270 --> 00:13:44.020
  • - DAVID: OKAY.
  • 00:13:44.020 --> 00:13:45.110
  • - JOHN: IF YOU'RE, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:13:45.110 --> 00:13:46.090
  • THE OLD POSTAL DELIVERERS, USED
  • 00:13:46.090 --> 00:13:47.010
  • TO TAKE MAIL AROUND...
  • 00:13:47.010 --> 00:13:48.100
  • - DAVID: UH.
  • 00:13:48.100 --> 00:13:48.290
  • - JOHN: ...YOU HAD TO LEARN
  • 00:13:48.290 --> 00:13:49.290
  • THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HUMANS
  • 00:13:49.290 --> 00:13:50.200
  • WHO WERE ANGRY AT YOU AND
  • 00:13:50.200 --> 00:13:51.270
  • PIT-BULL-SPEAK.
  • 00:13:51.270 --> 00:13:53.000
  • [DAVID LAUGHS]
  • 00:13:53.000 --> 00:13:53.160
  • ALL RIGHT?
  • 00:13:53.160 --> 00:13:54.160
  • PIT BULL.
  • 00:13:54.160 --> 00:13:55.180
  • [GROWLS]
  • 00:13:55.180 --> 00:13:56.080
  • YOU'VE GOTTA COMPREHEND THAT.
  • 00:13:56.080 --> 00:13:56.290
  • THEY CAN COMMUNICATE, BUT THEY
  • 00:13:56.290 --> 00:13:57.200
  • NEVER SAY, "GET OFF MY
  • 00:13:57.200 --> 00:13:58.130
  • TERRITORY!"
  • 00:13:58.130 --> 00:13:58.280
  • RIGHT?
  • 00:13:58.280 --> 00:13:59.120
  • - DAVID: YEAH...
  • 00:13:59.120 --> 00:14:00.110
  • - JOHN: THEY CAN'T SPEAK.
  • 00:14:00.110 --> 00:14:01.000
  • AND OUR SPEECH INVOLVES
  • 00:14:01.000 --> 00:14:02.200
  • IT INVOLVES ALL SORTS OF
  • 00:14:04.160 --> 00:14:05.040
  • THINGS THAT ARE NOT JUST
  • 00:14:05.040 --> 00:14:05.220
  • COMMUNICATION.
  • 00:14:05.220 --> 00:14:06.100
  • SO, MONKEYS CAN'T SPEAK BECAUSE
  • 00:14:06.100 --> 00:14:07.070
  • SO, FOUR THUMBS?
  • 00:14:11.140 --> 00:14:11.280
  • - DAVID: YES.
  • 00:14:11.280 --> 00:14:12.160
  • - JOHN: THEY WALK ON ALL FOURS,
  • 00:14:12.160 --> 00:14:13.110
  • RIGHT?
  • 00:14:13.110 --> 00:14:13.260
  • OH, THEY CAN STAND UPRIGHT
  • 00:14:13.260 --> 00:14:14.200
  • FOR A LITTLE WHILE.
  • 00:14:14.200 --> 00:14:15.190
  • BUT, AFTER THAT, IN A FEW
  • 00:14:15.190 --> 00:14:16.090
  • SECONDS, THEY WILL HOVER ON
  • 00:14:16.090 --> 00:14:17.050
  • DOWN.
  • 00:14:17.050 --> 00:14:18.000
  • THEY CAN'T STAND UPRIGHT LIKE
  • 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:18.250
  • YOU AND ME.
  • 00:14:18.250 --> 00:14:19.120
  • END RESULT -- NO SPEECH
  • 00:14:19.120 --> 00:14:20.120
  • CAPACITY.
  • 00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:21.170
  • OH, AND WHEN DID YOU GET YOUR
  • 00:14:21.170 --> 00:14:22.250
  • HAIRCUT, DAVID?
  • 00:14:22.250 --> 00:14:24.060
  • BECAUSE ONE OF THE LADIES SAID
  • 00:14:24.060 --> 00:14:25.070
  • IT LOOKS REALLY GOOD.
  • 00:14:25.070 --> 00:14:26.070
  • [DAVID LAUGHS]
  • 00:14:26.070 --> 00:14:26.270
  • WHEN DID YOU GET IT CUT?
  • 00:14:26.270 --> 00:14:27.210
  • - DAVID: UH...ABOUT A WEEK
  • 00:14:27.210 --> 00:14:28.160
  • AGO, YEAH.
  • 00:14:28.160 --> 00:14:29.020
  • - JOHN: WAS THERE AN ORANGUTAN
  • 00:14:29.020 --> 00:14:30.040
  • HAVING ITS HAIR CUT?
  • 00:14:30.040 --> 00:14:31.010
  • - DAVID: NO...
  • 00:14:31.010 --> 00:14:32.160
  • - JOHN: WHY NOT?
  • 00:14:32.160 --> 00:14:33.110
  • - DAVID: I DON'T THINK IT--
  • 00:14:33.110 --> 00:14:34.260
  • I DON'T THINK THEY EVER HAVE TO
  • 00:14:34.260 --> 00:14:35.180
  • HAVE THEIR HAIR CUT.
  • 00:14:35.180 --> 00:14:36.070
  • - JOHN: OKAY.
  • 00:14:36.070 --> 00:14:37.140
  • NOW, YOU'VE MADE AN INTERESTING
  • 00:14:37.140 --> 00:14:38.120
  • OBSERVATION, THERE, THAT MOST
  • 00:14:38.120 --> 00:14:39.160
  • OF OUR PHD STUDENTS ARE NOT
  • 00:14:39.160 --> 00:14:41.120
  • ALLOWED TO MAKE.
  • 00:14:41.120 --> 00:14:42.100
  • - DAVID: OKAY.
  • 00:14:42.100 --> 00:14:42.260
  • - JOHN: BECAUSE THEY'LL DO
  • 00:14:42.260 --> 00:14:43.250
  • BIOLOGY, THEY'LL DO
  • 00:14:43.250 --> 00:14:45.000
  • ANTHROPOLOGY, AND, NOT ONCE,
  • 00:14:45.000 --> 00:14:46.090
  • WILL THEY THINK ABOUT THE FACT
  • 00:14:47.040 --> 00:14:50.040
  • THAT: HEY, THEY'RE SO DIFFERENT
  • 00:14:50.040 --> 00:14:50.260
  • AND THE DIFFERENCE IS IN THE
  • 00:14:50.260 --> 00:14:51.240
  • NUMBER OF THUMBS.
  • 00:14:51.240 --> 00:14:52.150
  • THE DIFFERENCE IS IN HOW THEY
  • 00:14:52.150 --> 00:14:53.140
  • CAN TOUCH THIS.
  • 00:14:53.140 --> 00:14:54.000
  • THE DIFFERENCE IS IN HOW MANY
  • 00:14:54.000 --> 00:14:55.010
  • HANDS THEY'VE GOT.
  • 00:14:55.010 --> 00:14:55.290
  • AND IT ALSO SHOWS IN THE FACT
  • 00:14:55.290 --> 00:14:57.140
  • THAT THEY DON'T NEED A HAIRCUT.
  • 00:14:57.140 --> 00:14:59.080
  • - DAVID: REALLY?
  • 00:14:59.080 --> 00:15:01.030
  • YEAH, I'VE NEVER THOUGHT
  • 00:15:01.030 --> 00:15:01.210
  • ABOUT THAT.
  • 00:15:01.210 --> 00:15:02.120
  • - JOHN: THEY DON'T.
  • 00:15:02.120 --> 00:15:03.120
  • THEIR HAIR STOPS GROWING.
  • 00:15:03.120 --> 00:15:04.010
  • YOURS AND MINE KEEPS GROWING.
  • 00:15:04.010 --> 00:15:04.220
  • - DAVID: UH-HUH.
  • 00:15:04.220 --> 00:15:05.130
  • - JOHN: RIGHT?
  • 00:15:05.130 --> 00:15:07.150
  • IN REALITY, YOU'LL FIND
  • 00:15:07.150 --> 00:15:08.090
  • THAT IF YOU GO
  • 00:15:08.090 --> 00:15:09.040
  • "THE GUINNESS BOOK OF RECORDS,"
  • 00:15:09.040 --> 00:15:10.250
  • THE GUY WHO HELD THE WORLD
  • 00:15:10.250 --> 00:15:12.000
  • RECORD NEVER GOT HIS HAIR
  • 00:15:12.000 --> 00:15:12.190
  • CUT FROM THE DAY HE WAS BORN
  • 00:15:12.190 --> 00:15:13.140
  • TILL THE DAY HE DIES.
  • 00:15:13.140 --> 00:15:14.290
  • AND, TECHNICALLY, YOUR HAIR
  • 00:15:14.290 --> 00:15:16.120
  • ONLY LIVES SEVEN OR
  • 00:15:16.120 --> 00:15:17.270
  • EIGHT YEARS.
  • 00:15:17.270 --> 00:15:20.130
  • BUT IN THAT SEVEN OR EIGHT
  • 00:15:20.130 --> 00:15:21.080
  • YEARS, IT CAN GROW AN
  • 00:15:21.080 --> 00:15:21.250
  • INCREDIBLE LENGTH.
  • 00:15:21.250 --> 00:15:22.180
  • SO, HE WOULD TRAIL HIS AROUND.
  • 00:15:22.180 --> 00:15:23.170
  • 7 METERS, 700 YARDS LONG!
  • 00:15:23.170 --> 00:15:24.090
  • THAT'S INCREDIBLE.
  • 00:15:24.090 --> 00:15:25.080
  • MONKEYS' HAIR STAYS SHORT
  • 00:15:25.080 --> 00:15:26.070
  • BECAUSE IT'S GOT A TOTALLY
  • 00:15:26.070 --> 00:15:28.000
  • DIFFERENT DNA.
  • 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:28.230
  • - DAVID: OKAY.
  • 00:15:28.230 --> 00:15:29.080
  • - JOHN: ALL RIGHT.
  • 00:15:29.080 --> 00:15:30.000
  • AND SO YOU'LL FIND THAT THESE
  • 00:15:30.000 --> 00:15:30.210
  • DIFFERENCES ARE ADDING UP,
  • 00:15:30.210 --> 00:15:31.100
  • ADDING UP, ADDING UP.
  • 00:15:31.100 --> 00:15:32.000
  • - DAVID: AND WHAT YOU'RE
  • 00:15:32.000 --> 00:15:32.190
  • ACTUALLY SAYING IS THAT IT
  • 00:15:32.190 --> 00:15:33.170
  • APPEARS THAT THESE DIFFERENT
  • 00:15:33.170 --> 00:15:34.240
  • TYPES OF MONKEYS, THESE
  • 00:15:34.240 --> 00:15:35.190
  • DIFFERENT TYPES OF APES WERE
  • 00:15:35.190 --> 00:15:37.110
  • DESIGNED TO DO WHAT THEY DO.
  • 00:15:37.110 --> 00:15:38.080
  • - JOHN: THEY DO IT
  • 00:15:38.080 --> 00:15:39.100
  • REALLY WELL.
  • 00:15:39.100 --> 00:15:39.270
  • - DAVID: THEY CAN GRASP THE
  • 00:15:39.270 --> 00:15:41.060
  • TREES VERY WELL WITH FOUR
  • 00:15:41.060 --> 00:15:42.170
  • HANDS, BASICALLY.
  • 00:15:42.170 --> 00:15:43.070
  • - JOHN: MM-HMM, MM-HMM.
  • 00:15:43.070 --> 00:15:43.250
  • - DAVID: THEY CAN...WALK WHERE
  • 00:15:43.250 --> 00:15:45.170
  • THEY NEED TO WALK.
  • 00:15:45.170 --> 00:15:47.080
  • THEY CAN GRAB THINGS.
  • 00:15:47.080 --> 00:15:49.230
  • THEY CAN GRUNT.
  • 00:15:49.230 --> 00:15:50.290
  • BUT THEY'RE NOT DESIGNED TO
  • 00:15:50.290 --> 00:15:52.210
  • INTELLECTUALLY THINK.
  • 00:15:52.210 --> 00:15:54.050
  • - JOHN: OKAY?
  • 00:15:54.050 --> 00:15:54.250
  • - DAVID: OKAY.
  • 00:15:54.250 --> 00:15:55.230
  • - JOHN: THEY'RE NOT DESIGNED
  • 00:15:55.230 --> 00:15:57.030
  • TO SPEAK ABOUT IT, EITHER.
  • 00:15:57.030 --> 00:15:57.260
  • - DAVID: OKAY.
  • 00:15:57.260 --> 00:15:58.130
  • - JOHN: YOU MENTIONED THAT
  • 00:15:58.130 --> 00:15:59.130
  • POINT, AND, IN FACT, REMEMBER
  • 00:15:59.130 --> 00:16:00.120
  • THE SCRIPTURE WE REFERRED TO
  • 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:02.000
  • BACK IN THE BEGINNING, MAN WAS
  • 00:16:02.000 --> 00:16:03.110
  • MADE IN GOD'S IMAGE?
  • 00:16:03.110 --> 00:16:04.030
  • - DAVID: YEAH.
  • 00:16:04.030 --> 00:16:05.050
  • - JOHN: OKAY.
  • 00:16:05.050 --> 00:16:05.250
  • WHEN YOU LOOK IN A MIRROR --
  • 00:16:05.250 --> 00:16:06.280
  • I MEAN, I GOT UP AND I SAID:
  • 00:16:06.280 --> 00:16:07.190
  • I'M ON TELEVISION TODAY!
  • 00:16:07.190 --> 00:16:08.160
  • I MUST-- I-- LOOK, I'LL POLISH
  • 00:16:08.160 --> 00:16:09.240
  • THIS, I'LL CLEAN THAT!
  • 00:16:09.240 --> 00:16:11.000
  • THEY'RE WAITING FOR YOU, JOHN!
  • 00:16:11.000 --> 00:16:11.260
  • THEY NEED AUSTRALIANS IN TBN.
  • 00:16:11.260 --> 00:16:13.030
  • RIGHT?
  • 00:16:13.030 --> 00:16:14.080
  • [DAVID LAUGHS]
  • 00:16:14.080 --> 00:16:14.260
  • AND MY IMAGE WENT...
  • 00:16:14.260 --> 00:16:16.030
  • [MOUTHS SILENTLY]
  • 00:16:16.030 --> 00:16:17.270
  • - DAVID: YEAH.
  • 00:16:17.270 --> 00:16:18.110
  • - JOHN: AND YOU COULD HEAR ME
  • 00:16:18.110 --> 00:16:19.190
  • SPEAK, AND YOU COULD WATCH
  • 00:16:19.190 --> 00:16:20.150
  • MY REFLECTION.
  • 00:16:20.150 --> 00:16:21.250
  • THE REFLECTION IS MY IMAGE.
  • 00:16:21.250 --> 00:16:23.150
  • MY REFLECTION CAN ONLY DO WHAT
  • 00:16:23.150 --> 00:16:25.040
  • I, THE CREATOR OF THE IMAGE,
  • 00:16:25.040 --> 00:16:25.290
  • DOES FIRST.
  • 00:16:25.290 --> 00:16:27.050
  • - DAVID: OKAY.
  • 00:16:27.050 --> 00:16:28.030
  • - JOHN: IN THE BEGINNING WAS
  • 00:16:28.030 --> 00:16:28.240
  • THE WORD.
  • 00:16:28.240 --> 00:16:29.100
  • GOD SPEAKS.
  • 00:16:29.100 --> 00:16:30.150
  • GOD SAID, "LET THE GROUND
  • 00:16:30.150 --> 00:16:32.090
  • BRING FORTH..."
  • 00:16:32.090 --> 00:16:32.270
  • MONKEYS ARE NOT MADE IN
  • 00:16:32.270 --> 00:16:33.200
  • GOD'S IMAGE.
  • 00:16:33.200 --> 00:16:34.220
  • THEY CAN COMMUNICATE,
  • 00:16:34.220 --> 00:16:35.190
  • BUT THEY CAN'T SPEAK.
  • 00:16:35.190 --> 00:16:38.020
  • WE ARE LIKE GOD AND HE SPEAKS
  • 00:16:38.020 --> 00:16:38.240
  • SO WE CAN SPEAK.
  • 00:16:38.240 --> 00:16:40.210
  • HERE'S THE DIFFERENCE:
  • 00:16:40.210 --> 00:16:41.080
  • BEING A GARDENER -- I
  • 00:16:41.080 --> 00:16:42.230
  • WOULD LOVE AT THE START OF
  • 00:16:42.230 --> 00:16:44.020
  • SPRING TO GO OUT AND SAY:
  • 00:16:44.020 --> 00:16:44.270
  • "UP, CABBAGES!
  • 00:16:44.270 --> 00:16:46.240
  • MOVE IT THERE, CORN!
  • 00:16:46.240 --> 00:16:47.140
  • HURRY UP, YOU CAULIFLOWER."
  • 00:16:47.140 --> 00:16:48.110
  • RIGHT?
  • 00:16:48.110 --> 00:16:49.090
  • - DAVID: UH-HUH.
  • 00:16:49.090 --> 00:16:49.240
  • - JOHN: NOW, I CAN'T DO THAT.
  • 00:16:49.240 --> 00:16:50.150
  • BECAUSE GOD'S SPEECH COMES
  • 00:16:50.150 --> 00:16:52.030
  • WITH AUTHORITY.
  • 00:16:52.030 --> 00:16:53.070
  • WHEN I SPEAK, THE DOG HARDLY
  • 00:16:53.070 --> 00:16:54.290
  • TAKES ANY NOTICE, RIGHT?
  • 00:16:54.290 --> 00:16:56.130
  • SO, IN REALITY, WHAT YOU FIND
  • 00:16:56.130 --> 00:16:58.010
  • IS WE SHOW ALL THE
  • 00:16:58.010 --> 00:17:00.160
  • CHARACTERISTICS OF GOD AND THE
  • 00:17:00.160 --> 00:17:01.250
  • MONKEYS -- THEY WERE MADE BY
  • 00:17:01.250 --> 00:17:03.030
  • GOD, THEY SHOW ALL THE EVIDENCE
  • 00:17:03.030 --> 00:17:04.080
  • OF INTELLIGENT DESIGN, BUT
  • 00:17:04.080 --> 00:17:05.040
  • THEY'RE NOT MADE IN HIS IMAGE.
  • 00:17:05.040 --> 00:17:07.110
  • - DAVID: SO, IN OTHER WORDS,
  • 00:17:07.110 --> 00:17:08.050
  • WE WERE MADE IN GOD'S IMAGE.
  • 00:17:08.050 --> 00:17:09.150
  • THAT'S WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS OVER
  • 00:17:09.150 --> 00:17:10.140
  • AND OVER AGAIN.
  • 00:17:10.140 --> 00:17:11.110
  • AND, YET, WE'RE SO MUCH LESS
  • 00:17:11.110 --> 00:17:12.120
  • THAN HIM.
  • 00:17:12.120 --> 00:17:13.280
  • WE DO EXHIBIT THOSE SAME
  • 00:17:13.280 --> 00:17:16.010
  • CHARACTERISTICS...
  • 00:17:16.010 --> 00:17:16.190
  • - JOHN: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:17:16.190 --> 00:17:18.130
  • - DAVID: ...BUT, AT SO MUCH
  • 00:17:18.130 --> 00:17:19.100
  • LESS OF A SCALE...
  • 00:17:19.100 --> 00:17:20.140
  • - JOHN: CERTAINLY, THAT'S
  • 00:17:20.140 --> 00:17:21.030
  • TRUE.
  • 00:17:21.030 --> 00:17:21.160
  • - DAVID: ...WHICH POINTS TO A
  • 00:17:21.160 --> 00:17:22.070
  • GRAND DESIGNER.
  • 00:17:22.070 --> 00:17:24.110
  • BECAUSE WE CAN'T USE A CODE,
  • 00:17:24.110 --> 00:17:25.100
  • LIKE DNA, AND WE CAN'T...WRITE
  • 00:17:25.100 --> 00:17:27.050
  • OUT AN INSTRUCTION BOOK THAT
  • 00:17:27.050 --> 00:17:28.260
  • WILL MAKE A HUMAN...CAN WE?
  • 00:17:28.260 --> 00:17:30.160
  • - JOHN: YOU MENTIONED THE
  • 00:17:30.160 --> 00:17:32.100
  • CODING BEFORE.
  • 00:17:32.100 --> 00:17:33.230
  • WE'VE INVENTED CODES FOR
  • 00:17:33.230 --> 00:17:35.000
  • LAPTOPS, RIGHT?
  • 00:17:35.000 --> 00:17:36.230
  • - DAVID: YEAH.
  • 00:17:36.230 --> 00:17:37.180
  • - JOHN: WE'RE REALLY COPYING.
  • 00:17:37.180 --> 00:17:38.160
  • WE'RE NOT INVENTING.
  • 00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:39.140
  • WE'RE JUST BORROWING IDEAS.
  • 00:17:39.140 --> 00:17:40.200
  • AS ISAAC NEWTON SAID, "I'M JUST
  • 00:17:40.200 --> 00:17:42.010
  • THINKING GOD'S THOUGHTS
  • 00:17:42.010 --> 00:17:43.070
  • AFTER HIM."
  • 00:17:43.070 --> 00:17:44.230
  • BUT WE'RE-- OUR CODES ARE
  • 00:17:44.230 --> 00:17:46.010
  • LIMITED, RIGHT?
  • 00:17:46.010 --> 00:17:47.060
  • HIS CODE IS ABSOLUTELY
  • 00:17:47.060 --> 00:17:48.000
  • MAGNIFICENT.
  • 00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:48.220
  • ONE DAY, WE MIGHT GAIN A
  • 00:17:48.220 --> 00:17:50.020
  • BETTER INKLING.
  • 00:17:50.020 --> 00:17:50.230
  • BUT I'LL TELL YOU WHAT THE MOST
  • 00:17:50.230 --> 00:17:51.280
  • IMPORTANT THING WE CAN DISCUSS
  • 00:17:51.280 --> 00:17:52.280
  • IS: WE'RE MADE IN GOD'S IMAGE.
  • 00:17:52.280 --> 00:17:54.160
  • I KNOW YOU KNOW THE BIBLE.
  • 00:17:54.160 --> 00:17:55.290
  • THE SCRIPTURE SAYS, IN THE NEW
  • 00:17:55.290 --> 00:17:57.010
  • TESTAMENT, GOD IS A...?
  • 00:17:57.030 --> 00:18:00.050
  • - DAVID: GOD IS A SPIRIT.
  • 00:18:00.050 --> 00:18:00.240
  • - JOHN: SPIRIT.
  • 00:18:00.240 --> 00:18:01.130
  • OKAY.
  • 00:18:01.130 --> 00:18:02.200
  • IF WE'RE MADE IN THE IMAGE OF
  • 00:18:02.200 --> 00:18:04.070
  • GOD, WE HAVE A CAPACITY FOR
  • 00:18:04.070 --> 00:18:05.120
  • SPIRITUAL THINGS.
  • 00:18:05.120 --> 00:18:06.160
  • - DAVID: OOH...
  • 00:18:06.160 --> 00:18:08.070
  • - JOHN: THAT'S WHY I SAID
  • 00:18:08.070 --> 00:18:09.040
  • RIGHT AT THE START THERE'S NO
  • 00:18:09.040 --> 00:18:10.020
  • FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH, THERE'S
  • 00:18:10.020 --> 00:18:11.140
  • NO FIRST MONKEY CHURCH, THERE'S
  • 00:18:11.140 --> 00:18:13.020
  • NO FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH OF
  • 00:18:13.020 --> 00:18:13.230
  • MONKEYLAND OR ANYTHING LIKE
  • 00:18:13.230 --> 00:18:14.270
  • THAT, BECAUSE, THE SPIRITUAL
  • 00:18:14.270 --> 00:18:16.010
  • COMPONENT IS TOTALLY LACKING.
  • 00:18:16.170 --> 00:18:19.170
  • - DAVID: WHOA...SO, THEY HAVE
  • 00:18:19.170 --> 00:18:20.080
  • LIFE, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THAT
  • 00:18:20.080 --> 00:18:20.290
  • ABILITY TO COMPREHEND
  • 00:18:20.290 --> 00:18:22.070
  • SPIRITUALLY?
  • 00:18:22.070 --> 00:18:23.260
  • - JOHN: YEAH.
  • 00:18:23.260 --> 00:18:24.090
  • I LIKE TO THINK OF IT THIS WAY,
  • 00:18:24.090 --> 00:18:25.090
  • 'CAUSE SOMEBODY CHALLENGED
  • 00:18:25.090 --> 00:18:26.270
  • ME: "WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT!"
  • 00:18:26.270 --> 00:18:27.190
  • I SAID: "WELL, IF YOU CAN
  • 00:18:27.190 --> 00:18:28.150
  • IMAGINE WE WERE GIVEN THE
  • 00:18:28.150 --> 00:18:29.290
  • RIGHT TO EAT ANIMALS
  • 00:18:29.290 --> 00:18:31.080
  • AND PLANTS.
  • 00:18:31.080 --> 00:18:32.070
  • - DAVID: YEAH.
  • 00:18:32.070 --> 00:18:33.070
  • - JOHN: BUT, IN THE BEGINNING,
  • 00:18:33.070 --> 00:18:34.040
  • WE ALL ATE PLANTS.
  • 00:18:34.040 --> 00:18:34.260
  • WE WERE VEGETARIAN.
  • 00:18:34.260 --> 00:18:35.210
  • - DAVID: RIGHT.
  • 00:18:35.210 --> 00:18:36.190
  • - JOHN: AND GOD DIDN'T REGARD
  • 00:18:36.190 --> 00:18:37.200
  • THAT AS A PROBLEM AT ALL
  • 00:18:37.200 --> 00:18:38.150
  • BECAUSE HE OWNED THE PLANTS.
  • 00:18:38.150 --> 00:18:39.080
  • HE COULD GIVE US THE FREEDOM
  • 00:18:39.080 --> 00:18:39.280
  • TO EAT IT.
  • 00:18:39.280 --> 00:18:40.160
  • BUT THE PLANTS HAVE NO
  • 00:18:40.160 --> 00:18:41.270
  • SPIRITUAL AND NO PERSONAL
  • 00:18:41.270 --> 00:18:43.170
  • CAPACITY.
  • 00:18:43.170 --> 00:18:44.200
  • YOU CAN TALK TO YOUR APPLES ALL
  • 00:18:44.200 --> 00:18:46.060
  • YOUR LIFE, BUT THEY DON'T SORT
  • 00:18:46.060 --> 00:18:46.270
  • OF GET BACK TO YA.
  • 00:18:46.270 --> 00:18:47.240
  • - DAVID: YEAH.
  • 00:18:47.240 --> 00:18:48.130
  • - JOHN: BUT THEN YOU GET YOUR
  • 00:18:48.130 --> 00:18:50.100
  • DOG AND YOUR DOG ACTUALLY DOES
  • 00:18:50.100 --> 00:18:52.180
  • COMMUNICATE BACK.
  • 00:18:52.180 --> 00:18:53.140
  • SO, IT'S GOT BODY --
  • 00:18:53.140 --> 00:18:54.180
  • PLANTS HAVE.
  • 00:18:54.180 --> 00:18:55.280
  • BUT THE DOG'S GOT BODY
  • 00:18:55.280 --> 00:18:56.250
  • AND SOUL.
  • 00:18:56.250 --> 00:18:57.290
  • HENCE, THE SCRIPTURE SAYS THE
  • 00:18:57.290 --> 00:18:58.240
  • SOUL OF THE BEAST RETURNS
  • 00:18:58.240 --> 00:18:59.200
  • TO THE EARTH.
  • 00:18:59.200 --> 00:19:00.110
  • BUT THE SCRIPTURE TALKS ABOUT
  • 00:19:00.110 --> 00:19:01.150
  • THE SPIRIT OF MAN AND WE'RE
  • 00:19:01.150 --> 00:19:02.280
  • MADE IN THE IMAGE OF GOD, WHO
  • 00:19:02.280 --> 00:19:04.000
  • IS A SPIRIT.
  • 00:19:04.000 --> 00:19:05.040
  • SO, IF THERE'S ANY PROBLEM WITH
  • 00:19:05.040 --> 00:19:06.290
  • OUR SPIRITS, THEN WE NEED TO
  • 00:19:06.290 --> 00:19:08.160
  • GET THAT FIXED UP IF WE REALLY
  • 00:19:08.160 --> 00:19:10.080
  • WANT PLANET EARTH AND AMERICA
  • 00:19:10.080 --> 00:19:11.230
  • AND AUSTRALIA TO REALLY
  • 00:19:11.230 --> 00:19:13.120
  • WORK WELL.
  • 00:19:13.120 --> 00:19:14.000
  • - DAVID: AMEN.
  • 00:19:14.000 --> 00:19:15.030
  • THAT'S-- THAT'S AN EXCELLENT
  • 00:19:15.030 --> 00:19:15.230
  • POINT.
  • 00:19:15.230 --> 00:19:16.150
  • - JOHN: YEAH.
  • 00:19:16.150 --> 00:19:17.140
  • - DAVID: WELL, WHILE WE'RE ON
  • 00:19:17.140 --> 00:19:18.160
  • THIS TOPIC, WE WENT AROUND AND
  • 00:19:18.160 --> 00:19:20.060
  • WE ASKED PEOPLE IN THE STREET
  • 00:19:20.060 --> 00:19:21.260
  • IF THEY COULD THINK OF UNIQUE
  • 00:19:21.260 --> 00:19:23.220
  • FACTORS THAT SEPARATED HUMANS
  • 00:19:23.220 --> 00:19:25.240
  • FROM APELIKE CREATURES, THAT
  • 00:19:25.240 --> 00:19:27.110
  • SET HUMANS APART FROM MONKEYS,
  • 00:19:27.110 --> 00:19:29.250
  • AND WHAT THOSE DIFFERENCES
  • 00:19:29.250 --> 00:19:32.020
  • WOULD BE, LIKE PHYSICAL,
  • 00:19:32.020 --> 00:19:33.060
  • EMOTIONAL DIFFERENCES.
  • 00:19:33.060 --> 00:19:34.190
  • LET'S PLAY THAT AND I WANNA GET
  • 00:19:34.190 --> 00:19:35.110
  • YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON IT.
  • 00:19:35.110 --> 00:19:36.070
  • - INTERVIEWEE: OOH...MONKEYS
  • 00:19:40.200 --> 00:19:41.110
  • ARE WAY SMARTER.
  • 00:19:41.110 --> 00:19:42.140
  • YEAH, WAY SMARTER THAN US.
  • 00:19:42.140 --> 00:19:43.140
  • ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:19:43.140 --> 00:19:43.270
  • - INTERVIEWEE: THEY'VE ALSO
  • 00:19:43.270 --> 00:19:44.240
  • BEEN DOCUMENTED TO SHOWING
  • 00:19:44.240 --> 00:19:46.160
  • DIFFERENT FORMS OF LOVE.
  • 00:19:46.160 --> 00:19:48.070
  • UM, AND, EVEN LIKE HAVING
  • 00:19:48.070 --> 00:19:50.020
  • THEIR OWN LITTLE, LIKE-- LIKE
  • 00:19:50.020 --> 00:19:51.270
  • NON-VERBAL LANGUAGES.
  • 00:19:51.270 --> 00:19:54.060
  • - INTERVIEWEE (LEFT): WELL, I
  • 00:19:54.060 --> 00:19:55.080
  • KNOW WE HAVE...WHAT?
  • 00:19:55.080 --> 00:19:56.240
  • LIKE, I THINK IT WAS 10 PERCENT
  • 00:19:56.240 --> 00:19:59.020
  • MORE MENTAL CAPACITY.
  • 00:19:59.020 --> 00:20:00.020
  • - INTERVIEWEE (RIGHT): LIKE,
  • 00:20:00.020 --> 00:20:01.060
  • LANGUAGE.
  • 00:20:01.060 --> 00:20:02.000
  • - INTERVIEWEE (LEFT): YEAH.
  • 00:20:02.000 --> 00:20:02.260
  • I FEEL LIKE MONKEYS ARE MUCH
  • 00:20:02.260 --> 00:20:03.160
  • MORE--
  • 00:20:03.160 --> 00:20:03.290
  • - INTERVIEWEE (RIGHT): OUR
  • 00:20:03.290 --> 00:20:05.080
  • HAIR AND OUR EYE COLORS AND
  • 00:20:05.080 --> 00:20:07.010
  • OUR--
  • 00:20:07.010 --> 00:20:07.250
  • WE HAVE SKIN.
  • 00:20:07.250 --> 00:20:08.100
  • - INTERVIEWEE (LEFT): AND I
  • 00:20:08.100 --> 00:20:09.000
  • FEEL LIKE MONKEYS ARE MUCH MORE
  • 00:20:09.000 --> 00:20:09.220
  • AGGRESSIVE.
  • 00:20:09.220 --> 00:20:10.060
  • LIKE, APES COULD BE MORE
  • 00:20:10.060 --> 00:20:12.020
  • AGGRESSIVE.
  • 00:20:12.020 --> 00:20:12.190
  • - INTERVIEWEE: I THINK, LIKE,
  • 00:20:12.190 --> 00:20:13.100
  • OUR REASONING SKILLS MAKE US
  • 00:20:13.100 --> 00:20:14.140
  • MORE DEVELOPED...AND, LIKE,
  • 00:20:14.140 --> 00:20:16.000
  • SOCIAL, POSSIBLY.
  • 00:20:16.000 --> 00:20:18.160
  • - INTERVIEWEE: PROCESSING
  • 00:20:18.160 --> 00:20:19.210
  • EMOTIONS DIFFERENTLY AND MORE
  • 00:20:19.210 --> 00:20:22.140
  • EVOLVED.
  • 00:20:22.140 --> 00:20:23.100
  • - INTERVIEWEE: I GUESS THAT,
  • 00:20:23.100 --> 00:20:24.150
  • LIKE, HUMANS ARE ABLE TO, LIKE,
  • 00:20:24.150 --> 00:20:25.110
  • FORM SOCIETIES.
  • 00:20:25.110 --> 00:20:25.270
  • - INTERVIEWEE: UH...I THINK
  • 00:20:25.270 --> 00:20:27.120
  • THE DNA IS A BIG ONE.
  • 00:20:27.120 --> 00:20:28.240
  • LIKE, OUR DNA IS VERY
  • 00:20:28.240 --> 00:20:29.280
  • DIFFERENT.
  • 00:20:29.280 --> 00:20:31.020
  • - INTERVIEWEE (RIGHT): WE HAVE
  • 00:20:31.020 --> 00:20:31.240
  • THE HIGHEST DENSITY OF NEURONS.
  • 00:20:31.240 --> 00:20:32.160
  • AND SO, I THINK THAT
  • 00:20:32.160 --> 00:20:34.010
  • THAT'S...WHAT GIVES US OUR
  • 00:20:34.010 --> 00:20:34.270
  • INTELLECT.
  • 00:20:34.270 --> 00:20:36.040
  • - INTERVIEWEE (RIGHT): WE
  • 00:20:36.040 --> 00:20:37.010
  • DON'T WALK ON FOURS.
  • 00:20:37.010 --> 00:20:37.200
  • - INTERVIEWEE (LEFT): THEY
  • 00:20:37.200 --> 00:20:38.110
  • HAVE FUR.
  • 00:20:38.110 --> 00:20:39.010
  • - INTERVIEWEE (RIGHT): THEY
  • 00:20:39.010 --> 00:20:39.220
  • HAVE FUR.
  • 00:20:39.220 --> 00:20:40.190
  • - INTERVIEWEE (LEFT): YEAH.
  • 00:20:40.190 --> 00:20:41.090
  • - INTERVIEWEE: WE DO FEEL ON
  • 00:20:41.090 --> 00:20:42.000
  • CERTAIN ASPECTS THE SAME WAY AS
  • 00:20:42.000 --> 00:20:42.220
  • ANIMALS AND MONKEYS, BUT I
  • 00:20:42.220 --> 00:20:43.230
  • THINK WE HAVE A...MORE
  • 00:20:43.230 --> 00:20:46.090
  • SCIENTIFIC WAY OF
  • 00:20:46.090 --> 00:20:47.080
  • EXPRESSING IT.
  • 00:20:47.080 --> 00:20:48.070
  • - INTERVIEWEE (RIGHT): BEING
  • 00:20:48.070 --> 00:20:49.060
  • ABLE TO GIVE SOMETHING OF
  • 00:20:49.060 --> 00:20:50.040
  • VALUE, LIKE VALUE A
  • 00:20:50.040 --> 00:20:51.020
  • RELATIONSHIP.
  • 00:20:51.020 --> 00:20:52.040
  • - INTERVIEWEE: I WAS GONNA SAY
  • 00:20:52.040 --> 00:20:53.080
  • THE ABILITY TO USE TOOLS.
  • 00:20:53.080 --> 00:20:54.030
  • - INTERVIEWEE: WE...LIKE, I
  • 00:20:54.030 --> 00:20:57.020
  • GUESS, LIKE, WHAT, LIKE, SETS
  • 00:20:57.020 --> 00:20:57.280
  • US APART IS WE, LIKE, HAVE THIS
  • 00:20:57.280 --> 00:21:00.240
  • NEED FOR, LIKE, THE TRUTH, AND,
  • 00:21:00.240 --> 00:21:02.280
  • LIKE, LOOKING FOR, LIKE, A
  • 00:21:02.280 --> 00:21:03.170
  • HIGHER, LIKE, PURPOSE, AND,
  • 00:21:03.170 --> 00:21:04.070
  • LIKE, POWER AND STUFF
  • 00:21:04.070 --> 00:21:04.240
  • - DAVID: HMH.
  • 00:21:06.150 --> 00:21:07.100
  • HAVE A NEED FOR THE TRUTH.
  • 00:21:07.100 --> 00:21:10.100
  • WE CAN PHILOSOPHIZE ABOUT OUR
  • 00:21:10.100 --> 00:21:11.200
  • EXISTENCE.
  • 00:21:11.200 --> 00:21:12.010
  • MONKEYS DON'T SIT AROUND
  • 00:21:12.010 --> 00:21:13.010
  • SAYING, "OH, I WONDER WHERE I
  • 00:21:13.010 --> 00:21:14.150
  • CAME FROM IN THE FAR-DISTANT
  • 00:21:14.150 --> 00:21:15.050
  • PAST."
  • 00:21:15.050 --> 00:21:16.230
  • [JOHN LAUGHS]
  • 00:21:16.230 --> 00:21:17.110
  • - JOHN: LET'S ASK DAVID RIVES,
  • 00:21:17.110 --> 00:21:18.100
  • YES.
  • 00:21:18.100 --> 00:21:18.260
  • [DAVID LAUGHS]
  • 00:21:18.260 --> 00:21:19.200
  • UH, THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
  • 00:21:19.200 --> 00:21:20.110
  • SOME OF THEM HAVE HIT ON SOME
  • 00:21:20.110 --> 00:21:21.110
  • INTERESTING THINGS, BUT MOST OF
  • 00:21:21.110 --> 00:21:22.140
  • THEM HAVE PORTRAYED THEIR
  • 00:21:22.140 --> 00:21:23.140
  • EVOLUTIONARY BRAINWASHING.
  • 00:21:23.140 --> 00:21:24.070
  • - DAVID: YEAH.
  • 00:21:24.070 --> 00:21:25.020
  • - JOHN: SO, IF YOU THINK OF
  • 00:21:25.020 --> 00:21:26.150
  • ONE LAST THING THAT'S A COMMON
  • 00:21:26.150 --> 00:21:28.050
  • FACTOR BETWEEN US AND GOD
  • 00:21:28.050 --> 00:21:30.020
  • VERSUS US AND MONKEYS, IN THE
  • 00:21:30.020 --> 00:21:31.290
  • BEGINNING GOD...?
  • 00:21:31.290 --> 00:21:33.070
  • - DAVID: CREATED.
  • 00:21:33.070 --> 00:21:34.180
  • - JOHN: OKAY, WE'RE MADE IN
  • 00:21:34.180 --> 00:21:35.140
  • THE IMAGE OF GOD, WHO IS THE
  • 00:21:35.140 --> 00:21:36.160
  • CREATOR, SO WE CREATE.
  • 00:21:36.160 --> 00:21:38.270
  • - DAVID: OKAY.
  • 00:21:38.270 --> 00:21:39.220
  • - JOHN: WE TAKE THINGS AND WE
  • 00:21:39.220 --> 00:21:40.130
  • MAKE THEM DO THINGS THEY
  • 00:21:40.130 --> 00:21:41.060
  • WOULDN'T DO BY THEMSELVES.
  • 00:21:41.060 --> 00:21:41.250
  • AND THE CLASSIC EXAMPLE IS THE
  • 00:21:41.250 --> 00:21:43.240
  • GUY MICHAEL FARADAY, WHO
  • 00:21:43.240 --> 00:21:45.050
  • INVENTS THE ELECTRICITY
  • 00:21:45.050 --> 00:21:47.020
  • GENERATOR.
  • 00:21:47.020 --> 00:21:47.180
  • - DAVID: OKAY.
  • 00:21:47.180 --> 00:21:48.020
  • - JOHN: ALL RIGHT?
  • 00:21:48.020 --> 00:21:48.180
  • NOW, ILLUSTRATION.
  • 00:21:48.180 --> 00:21:49.260
  • THE PRIME MINISTER CAME ALONG
  • 00:21:49.260 --> 00:21:51.050
  • TO HIM ONE DAY AND ASKED HIM,
  • 00:21:51.050 --> 00:21:52.190
  • "PRAY TELL, MR. FARADAY..."
  • 00:21:52.190 --> 00:21:54.060
  • THE PRIME MINISTER WAS VERY
  • 00:21:54.060 --> 00:21:56.060
  • ANTI-SCIENCE, BY THE WAY.
  • 00:21:56.060 --> 00:21:56.290
  • - DAVID: UH-HUH.
  • 00:21:56.290 --> 00:21:57.170
  • - JOHN: "PRAY TELL,
  • 00:21:57.170 --> 00:21:59.020
  • MR. FARADAY, WHAT WILL IT
  • 00:21:59.020 --> 00:21:59.250
  • BE USED FOR?"
  • 00:21:59.250 --> 00:22:00.210
  • REMEMBER, YOU INVENT
  • 00:22:00.210 --> 00:22:01.280
  • ELECTRICITY TO GENERATE,
  • 00:22:01.280 --> 00:22:02.160
  • THERE'S NO ELECTRIC LIGHTS,
  • 00:22:02.160 --> 00:22:03.060
  • THERE'S NO TELEPHONE, THERE'S
  • 00:22:03.060 --> 00:22:04.040
  • NO DIGITAL IPHONES OR ANYTHING
  • 00:22:04.080 --> 00:22:07.080
  • LIKE THAT.
  • 00:22:07.080 --> 00:22:07.290
  • - DAVID: MM-HMM.
  • 00:22:07.290 --> 00:22:08.150
  • - JOHN: "WHAT WILL IT BE USED
  • 00:22:08.150 --> 00:22:09.060
  • FOR?"
  • 00:22:09.060 --> 00:22:09.170
  • AND MICHAEL FARADAY AND THE
  • 00:22:09.170 --> 00:22:10.070
  • WISDOM THAT AS A CHRISTIAN
  • 00:22:10.070 --> 00:22:11.050
  • BELIEVER GOD GAVE HIM, HE SAID,
  • 00:22:11.050 --> 00:22:12.020
  • "I DO NOT KNOW, MR. PRIME
  • 00:22:12.020 --> 00:22:13.150
  • MINISTER, BUT, ONE DAY, I KNOW
  • 00:22:13.150 --> 00:22:14.200
  • YOU'LL FIND A REASON TO TAX
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  • IT."
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  • [DAVID LAUGHS]
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  • ALL RIGHT?
  • 00:22:18.000 --> 00:22:18.150
  • TAXES ARE CREATIVE ACCOUNTING
  • 00:22:18.150 --> 00:22:20.280
  • AND THE ENGINEERING BEHIND A
  • 00:22:20.280 --> 00:22:21.290
  • GENERATOR, WHICH HAD NO
  • 00:22:21.290 --> 00:22:23.120
  • FUNCTION YET KNOWN, IS AN
  • 00:22:23.120 --> 00:22:24.250
  • EXAMPLE OF A CREATION OF
  • 00:22:24.250 --> 00:22:26.070
  • SOMETHING THAT WOULD NEVER
  • 00:22:26.070 --> 00:22:26.280
  • HAPPEN BY ITSELF.
  • 00:22:27.090 --> 00:22:30.090
  • SO, WE HAVE CREATIVE SKILLS.
  • 00:22:30.090 --> 00:22:31.030
  • SO, THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO SAY:
  • 00:22:31.030 --> 00:22:32.020
  • AY, THAT MEANS I'M UNDER
  • 00:22:32.020 --> 00:22:33.150
  • OBLIGATION TO MY CREATOR.
  • 00:22:33.150 --> 00:22:34.200
  • - DAVID: YEAH.
  • 00:22:34.200 --> 00:22:35.190
  • - JOHN: IT ALSO MEANS THAT
  • 00:22:35.190 --> 00:22:36.090
  • IF I DON'T KNOW MY CREATOR,
  • 00:22:36.090 --> 00:22:37.010
  • THERE'S A PROBLEM CUTTING ME
  • 00:22:37.010 --> 00:22:38.180
  • OFF FROM MY CREATOR.
  • 00:22:38.180 --> 00:22:39.160
  • I NEED TO FIND OUT WHAT IT
  • 00:22:39.160 --> 00:22:40.190
  • IS -- AND THAT'S WHAT YOUR
  • 00:22:40.190 --> 00:22:41.120
  • PROGRAM'S ALL ABOUT.
  • 00:22:41.120 --> 00:22:42.170
  • - DAVID: THAT'S-- IT IS.
  • 00:22:42.170 --> 00:22:43.130
  • EVERY WEEK.
  • 00:22:43.130 --> 00:22:44.120
  • - JOHN: MM-HMM.
  • 00:22:44.120 --> 00:22:45.120
  • - DAVID: BUT I THINK YOU'VE
  • 00:22:45.120 --> 00:22:46.020
  • HIT ON SOMETHING REALLY
  • 00:22:46.020 --> 00:22:46.240
  • IMPORTANT, HERE, BECAUSE, YOU
  • 00:22:46.240 --> 00:22:48.150
  • MENTION MICHAEL FARADAY.
  • 00:22:48.150 --> 00:22:49.130
  • MANY OF THE GREATEST SCIENTISTS
  • 00:22:49.130 --> 00:22:51.070
  • OF ALL TIMES, THE ONES WHO WERE
  • 00:22:51.070 --> 00:22:52.060
  • THE MOST CREATIVE, WHO
  • 00:22:52.060 --> 00:22:53.160
  • DISCOVERED SO MANY REMARKABLE
  • 00:22:53.160 --> 00:22:55.070
  • PRINCIPLES -- THEY WERE STRONG
  • 00:22:55.070 --> 00:22:56.200
  • BELIEVERS, WEREN'T THEY?
  • 00:22:57.150 --> 00:23:00.170
  • IT'S TRUE EVEN IN GEOLOGY.
  • 00:23:00.170 --> 00:23:01.060
  • - DAVID: OKAY.
  • 00:23:01.060 --> 00:23:01.270
  • - JOHN: RIGHT?
  • 00:23:01.270 --> 00:23:02.190
  • SO, THE MAN WHO INVENTED THE
  • 00:23:02.190 --> 00:23:03.120
  • WORD "DINOSAUR," WHICH YOUR
  • 00:23:03.120 --> 00:23:04.040
  • VIEWERS LOVE TO WATCH -- RIGHT?
  • 00:23:04.040 --> 00:23:04.290
  • -- IT CREATED THE NATURAL
  • 00:23:04.290 --> 00:23:05.280
  • HISTORY MUSEUM AS TO SHOW A
  • 00:23:05.280 --> 00:23:07.220
  • PLACE OF ALL OF GOD'S CREATION.
  • 00:23:07.220 --> 00:23:09.110
  • AND HE WAS THE ONE WHO SAID TO
  • 00:23:09.110 --> 00:23:10.060
  • MR. DARWIN, "THE FOSSILS DON'T
  • 00:23:10.060 --> 00:23:11.180
  • SUPPORT ANYTHING YOU SAY."
  • 00:23:11.180 --> 00:23:12.220
  • [DAVID LAUGHS]
  • 00:23:12.220 --> 00:23:13.210
  • ALL RIGHT?
  • 00:23:13.210 --> 00:23:14.120
  • NOW, NOTHING'S CHANGED.
  • 00:23:14.120 --> 00:23:15.020
  • THE FOSSILS STILL DON'T
  • 00:23:15.020 --> 00:23:17.010
  • SUPPORT, BUT POOR OL' RICHARD
  • 00:23:17.010 --> 00:23:18.090
  • OWEN HAS BEEN MOVED OUT OF THE
  • 00:23:18.090 --> 00:23:19.010
  • FOYER OF THE MUSEUM.
  • 00:23:19.010 --> 00:23:20.090
  • - DAVID: WELL, I THINK THIS
  • 00:23:20.090 --> 00:23:22.200
  • GIVES US AN ADVANTAGE.
  • 00:23:22.200 --> 00:23:24.000
  • IN OTHER WORDS, IT GAVE THE
  • 00:23:24.040 --> 00:23:27.040
  • SCIENTISTS OF OLDEN TIMES AN
  • 00:23:27.040 --> 00:23:28.210
  • ADVANTAGE, BECAUSE, THEY KNEW
  • 00:23:28.260 --> 00:23:31.260
  • WHAT THE BIBLE SAID.
  • 00:23:31.260 --> 00:23:32.170
  • - JOHN: MM-HMM.
  • 00:23:32.170 --> 00:23:33.180
  • - DAVID: IN FACT, MANY
  • 00:23:33.180 --> 00:23:34.060
  • EXPLORERS USED WHAT THE BIBLE
  • 00:23:34.060 --> 00:23:34.270
  • SAID TO GO OUT AND DISCOVER NEW
  • 00:23:34.270 --> 00:23:35.200
  • THINGS.
  • 00:23:35.200 --> 00:23:36.100
  • NOW, WE'VE KIND OF TAKEN THIS
  • 00:23:36.100 --> 00:23:37.130
  • NATURALISTIC APPROACH, AND,
  • 00:23:37.130 --> 00:23:38.110
  • YES, TECHNOLOGY HAS CERTAINLY
  • 00:23:38.110 --> 00:23:39.040
  • IN THE LAST DECADE.
  • 00:23:39.040 --> 00:23:40.000
  • BUT, AT THE SAME TIME, WHAT
  • 00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:42.180
  • WOULD HAPPEN IF WE WENT BACK TO
  • 00:23:42.180 --> 00:23:44.230
  • THE BIBLE?
  • 00:23:44.230 --> 00:23:46.180
  • WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE STARTED
  • 00:23:46.180 --> 00:23:47.270
  • OUT WITH GOD'S WORD AS OUR
  • 00:23:47.270 --> 00:23:50.020
  • BLUEPRINT AND THEN STARTED
  • 00:23:50.270 --> 00:23:53.270
  • STUDYING HIS CREATION, LOOKING
  • 00:23:53.270 --> 00:23:55.110
  • FOR WAYS TO BE CREATIVE WITH
  • 00:23:55.110 --> 00:23:56.140
  • THAT CREATION?
  • 00:23:56.140 --> 00:23:57.160
  • I THINK WE COULD GO SO MUCH
  • 00:23:57.160 --> 00:23:58.080
  • FURTHER.
  • 00:23:58.080 --> 00:23:58.220
  • - JOHN: I THINK WE ACTUALLY
  • 00:23:58.220 --> 00:23:59.200
  • COULD, PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU
  • 00:23:59.200 --> 00:24:01.220
  • CAN FIND A SOLUTION TO ONE
  • 00:24:01.220 --> 00:24:02.120
  • PROBLEM.
  • 00:24:02.120 --> 00:24:02.290
  • ONE OF OUR RESEARCHERS IS A
  • 00:24:02.290 --> 00:24:04.100
  • PSYCHOLOGIST -- PSYCH, THE
  • 00:24:04.100 --> 00:24:05.260
  • SOUL; LOGOS, THE WORD.
  • 00:24:05.260 --> 00:24:07.180
  • THE ONLY WORD FOR THE SOUL IS
  • 00:24:07.180 --> 00:24:08.100
  • GOD'S WORD.
  • 00:24:08.100 --> 00:24:09.100
  • IT'S HIS KEY KEY PHRASE, RIGHT?
  • 00:24:09.100 --> 00:24:10.220
  • AND, THE PROBLEM WITH OUR IMAGE
  • 00:24:10.220 --> 00:24:12.250
  • -- MADE IN GOD'S IMAGE, WE'RE
  • 00:24:12.250 --> 00:24:14.000
  • CREATED -- IS THAT SIN HAS
  • 00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:16.080
  • INTERFERED, SIN HAS DEFACED THE
  • 00:24:16.080 --> 00:24:17.050
  • IMAGE.
  • 00:24:17.050 --> 00:24:18.030
  • ONLY THE IMAGE-MAKER CAN CLEAN
  • 00:24:18.030 --> 00:24:18.250
  • IT UP -- JESUS.
  • 00:24:18.250 --> 00:24:19.270
  • - DAVID: THAT'S ABSOLUTELY
  • 00:24:19.270 --> 00:24:21.170
  • CORRECT.
  • 00:24:21.170 --> 00:24:23.020
  • YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT SO MANY
  • 00:24:23.020 --> 00:24:23.250
  • DIFFERENT THINGS, JUST OVER THE
  • 00:24:23.250 --> 00:24:26.140
  • LAST FEW MOMENTS, THAT SEPARATE
  • 00:24:26.140 --> 00:24:27.180
  • US FROM THE APES.
  • 00:24:27.180 --> 00:24:29.080
  • - JOHN: MM-HMM.
  • 00:24:29.080 --> 00:24:29.240
  • - DAVID: AND, THAT FITS WHAT
  • 00:24:29.240 --> 00:24:31.280
  • WE READ IN THE BIBLE.
  • 00:24:31.280 --> 00:24:32.220
  • IT SAYS THAT WE'RE FEARFULLY
  • 00:24:32.220 --> 00:24:34.030
  • AND WONDERFULLY MADE.
  • 00:24:34.030 --> 00:24:34.270
  • WE'RE ACTUALLY GIVEN DOMINION
  • 00:24:34.270 --> 00:24:35.260
  • OVER THE ANIMALS.
  • 00:24:35.260 --> 00:24:36.190
  • NOW, WE'RE GIVEN DOMINION OVER
  • 00:24:36.190 --> 00:24:38.120
  • THESE THINGS IN THE NATURAL
  • 00:24:38.120 --> 00:24:41.070
  • WORLD, WHICH ALSO MEANS THAT WE
  • 00:24:41.070 --> 00:24:43.020
  • DO NEED TO TRY TO PROTECT THEM,
  • 00:24:43.020 --> 00:24:44.100
  • TO CONSERVE.
  • 00:24:46.080 --> 00:24:49.080
  • CALLED, "BUT MONKEYS DON'T
  • 00:24:49.080 --> 00:24:50.090
  • CRY," LOOKING AT THE EMOTIONS,
  • 00:24:50.090 --> 00:24:51.020
  • LOOKING AT THESE DIFFERENCES
  • 00:24:51.020 --> 00:24:52.050
  • BETWEEN APES AND HUMANS THAT,
  • 00:24:52.050 --> 00:24:53.230
  • AGAIN, SEPARATE US AND THEY
  • 00:24:53.230 --> 00:24:56.070
  • POINT US BACK TO THE BIBLE.
  • 00:24:58.040 --> 00:25:01.060
  • THANK YOU, JOHN, FOR SHARING
  • 00:25:01.060 --> 00:25:01.260
  • YOUR INFORMATION WITH US, AND,
  • 00:25:01.260 --> 00:25:02.250
  • WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE YOU
  • 00:25:02.250 --> 00:25:03.170
  • BACK ON ANOTHER PROGRAM.
  • 00:25:03.170 --> 00:25:04.230
  • - JOHN: GOOD IDEA.
  • 00:25:04.230 --> 00:25:06.100
  • - DAVID: YOU KNOW, STUDIES IN
  • 00:25:06.100 --> 00:25:07.120
  • ANTHROPOLOGY AND BIOLOGY MAKE
  • 00:25:07.120 --> 00:25:08.070
  • IT REALLY PLAIN -- WE'RE VERY
  • 00:25:08.070 --> 00:25:09.260
  • DIFFERENT FROM APES AND WE
  • 00:25:09.260 --> 00:25:11.000
  • AREN'T DESCENDED FROM APELIKE
  • 00:25:11.000 --> 00:25:13.170
  • ANCESTORS.
  • 00:25:13.170 --> 00:25:15.120
  • THE ONLY THING WE HAVE IN
  • 00:25:15.120 --> 00:25:16.010
  • COMMON WITH THEM IS THAT WE
  • 00:25:16.010 --> 00:25:16.210
  • WERE ALL DESIGNED BY THE SAME
  • 00:25:16.210 --> 00:25:17.120
  • CREATOR -- THE GOD OF THE
  • 00:25:17.120 --> 00:25:18.040
  • BIBLE, JESUS CHRIST.
  • 00:25:18.050 --> 00:25:21.050
  • THAT VERY SAME CREATOR -- WELL,
  • 00:25:21.050 --> 00:25:21.290
  • HE WANTS TO HAVE A PERSONAL
  • 00:25:21.290 --> 00:25:22.260
  • RELATIONSHIP WITH YOU.
  • 00:25:22.260 --> 00:25:23.270
  • AND IF YOU'LL RECEIVE HIM, HE
  • 00:25:23.270 --> 00:25:25.100
  • WILL CHANGE YOUR LIFE FOR THE
  • 00:25:25.100 --> 00:25:26.210
  • BETTER, ETERNALLY.
  • 00:25:26.210 --> 00:25:28.210
  • WE HOPE THAT YOU'VE BEEN
  • 00:25:28.210 --> 00:25:29.160
  • ENCOURAGED AND EDUCATED TODAY
  • 00:25:29.160 --> 00:25:30.290
  • AS YOU LEARN OF THE WONDERS
  • 00:25:30.290 --> 00:25:32.170
  • THROUGHOUT CREATION THAT LEADS
  • 00:25:32.170 --> 00:25:34.090
  • US CLOSER TO OUR CREATOR.
  • 00:25:34.090 --> 00:25:35.210
  • I'M DAVID RIVES, AND, UNTIL
  • 00:25:35.210 --> 00:25:36.240
  • NEXT TIME, KEEP LOOKING UP.
  • 00:25:36.240 --> 00:25:38.160
  • TRULY, THE HEAVENS DECLARE THE
  • 00:25:38.160 --> 00:25:39.180
  • GLORY OF GOD.
  • 00:25:42.140 --> 00:25:45.140
  • [DRAMATIC CLOSING THEME]
  • 00:25:47.070 --> 00:25:50.070