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December 27, 2019
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The Eric Metaxas Radio Show

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  • [DOOR SLAMMING]
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  • [BING]
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  • [REVVING, SCREECHING]
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  • [WHOOSH]
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • - MALE: HEY.
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • [BOINK]
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  • [ENGINE REVVING]
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  • [BRAKES SQUEALING]
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  • [CRASH]
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  • [CHEERS]
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • - ERIC METAXAS: HEY, THERE,
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  • FOLKS, I'M ERIC METAXAS,
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  • AND HAVE I GOT A GUEST
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  • FOR YOU.
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  • ON SKYPE TODAY--
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  • AND IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE
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  • IN THE SAME ROOM--
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  • IS MARK BATTERSON.
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  • YOU MAY KNOW HIM AS
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  • "THE NEW YORK TIMES"
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  • BEST-SELLING AUTHOR OF
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  • 40.000 BOOKS OR AS THE
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  • LEAD PASTOR OF THE
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  • NATIONAL COMMUNITY CHURCH,
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  • - ááá.
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  • YADA, YADA, YADA.
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  • IT'S UNBELIEVABLE.
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  • THEY LIVE ON CAPITOL HILL,
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  • RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE
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  • SWAMP, FOLKS.
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  • WELCOME TO THE PROGRAM.
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  • - MARK BATTERSON: HEY,
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  • THANKS, ERIC.
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  • GREAT TO BE WITH YA.
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  • - ERIC: IT'S GREAT TO--
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  • SKYPE IS THE WEIRDEST
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  • THING, TO ME, BECAUSE IT'S
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  • LIKE YOU'RE-- IT'S YOU'RE
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  • MORE REAL THAN IF YOU WERE
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  • IN THE STUDIO.
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  • I CAN FEEL THE FLAMES
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  • BEHIND YOU.
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  • NOW, OSTENSIVELY, THE
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  • REASON YOU'RE HERE TODAY
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  • IS TO TALK ABOUT A
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  • BRAND-NEW BOOK, CALLED
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  • "DOUBLE BLESSING:
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  • HOW TO GET IT.
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  • HOW TO GIVE IT."
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  • "DOUBLE BLESSING."
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  • BUT I WANNA ASK YOU,
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  • BEFORE WE GET INTO THE BOOK,
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  • I WANT MY AUDIENCE TO GET
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  • TO KNOW YOU A LITTLE BIT
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  • 'CAUSE SOME PEOPLE WILL
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  • KNOW YOU, BUT A LOT WON'T.
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  • SO, MARK BATTERSON, WHAT'S
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  • YOUR STORY?
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  • WHERE DID YOU GROW UP?
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  • WHEN DID YOU COME TO
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  • FAITH, AND HOW DID YOU GET
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  • TO BE A PASTOR IN THE
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  • NATION'S CAPITAL?
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  • - MARK: YEAH, WELL, IF I
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  • GO BACK A FEW YEARS,
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  • ACTUALLY, ERIC, PUT MY
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  • FAITH IN CHRIST AFTER
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  • WATCHING A FILM CALLED
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  • "THE HIDING PLACE."
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  • AND I WAS MAYBE SIX
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  • YEARS OLD.
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  • - ERIC: WHAT?
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  • WOW.
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  • - MARK: I KNOW, AND IT'S
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  • WHY I REALLY BELIEVE IN
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  • THE POWER OF FILM.
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  • I KNOW WE SHARE
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  • THAT PASSION.
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  • GOD WORKS IN STRANGE AND
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  • MYSTERIOUS WAYS, AND SO,
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  • SOMEHOW, HE USED THAT FILM
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  • TO REALLY KIND OF CAPTURE
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  • MY HEART.
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  • AND SO I GREW UP IN THE
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  • MIDWEST, ERIC, TRIED TO
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  • PLANT A CHURCH AT THE RIPE
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  • AGE OF 22, IN THE
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  • - ERIC: WOW.
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  • - MARK: WELL, IT'S
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  • AMAZING HOW MUCH YOU KNOW
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  • WHEN YOU'RE 22.
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  • I HAD IT ALL FIGURED OUT AND--
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  • - ERIC: RIGHT, BUT
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  • SO THAT'S KIND OF AMAZING
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  • TO ME, SERIOUSLY.
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  • SO YOUR PARENTS WERE
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  • OBVIOUSLY SERIOUS PEOPLE
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  • OF FAITH THAT THEY WOULD
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  • TAKE THEIR SIX-YEAR-OLD
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  • SON TO SEE AN INCREDIBLY
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  • IMPORTANT FILM, THE STORY
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  • OF A HERO, CORRIE TEN BOOM,
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  • JULIE HARRIS, ONE OF MY
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  • FAVORITE ACTRESSES IN
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  • THE WORLD.
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  • BUT AT AGE SIX, THIS
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  • HAPPENED, AND SO DID YOU
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  • PRETTY MUCH KNOW, AS
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  • YOU'RE GROWING UP, THAT
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  • YOU WANTED TO GO INTO
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  • MINISTRY?
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  • - MARK: I DIDN'T.
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  • IN FACT, I ENDED UP GOIN'
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  • TO THE UNIVERSITY OF
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  • CHICAGO, WAS A PRE-LAW
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  • MAJOR, AND IF I'M BEIN'
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  • HONEST, I THINK AT THE AGE
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  • OF 19, I DON'T KNOW THAT I
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  • WAS REALLY FOLLOWING
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  • JESUS.
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  • I HAD INVITED JESUS TO
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  • FOLLOW ME, AND THERE'S A
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  • DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE
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  • TWO THINGS.
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  • OKAY, SO AT AGE 19, YOU'RE
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  • NOT THERE, BUT AT 22, YOU
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  • WANNA START A CHURCH?
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  • HOW DID THAT HAPPEN?
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  • - MARK: YEAH, WELL, YOU
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  • KNOW, THERE WAS THIS
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  • MOMENT WHERE I JUST-- I
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  • FELT LIKE GOD WAS CALLING
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  • AND SO I ACTUALLY GAVE UP
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  • A FULL-RIDE SCHOLARSHIP AT
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  • THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO,
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  • TRANSFERRED TO A LITTLE
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  • BIBLE COLLEGE AND, IN
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  • FACT, STARTED PREACHING,
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  • IN A LITTLE COUNTRY CHURCH
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  • WITH SEVEN PEWS, AND SO I
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  • OFTEN CHUCKLE AT, YOU
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  • KNOW, WHOEVER BUILT IT,
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  • YOU KNOW, WAS THINKIN',
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  • "HEY, REVIVAL MIGHT
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  • BREAK OUT.
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  • LET'S NOT STOP AT SIX.
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  • LET'S GO SEVEN PEWS."
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  • SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I CUT
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  • MY TEETH PREACHING.
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  • - ERIC: UNBELIEVABLE.
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  • WELL, YOU'VE COME A
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  • LONG WAY, BABY.
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  • GOD HAS USED YOU
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  • TREMENDOUSLY.
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  • NOW, OBVIOUSLY, I WANNA
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  • TALK ABOUT THIS, THE NEW
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  • BOOK.
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  • YOU WROTE "THE CIRCLE MAKER."
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  • I DON'T KNOW-- IS THAT THE
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  • BOOK THAT YOU'D BE BEST
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  • KNOWN FOR,
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  • "THE CIRCLE MAKER"?
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  • - MARK: YEAH, I THINK SO.
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  • IT DEFINITELY HAS SOLD THE
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  • MOST COPIES.
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  • SO, YEAH, I THINK THAT'S
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  • THE BOOK THAT MAYBE MADE
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  • THE SPLASH IN THE POOL.
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  • - ERIC: YEAH, WELL, LET'S
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  • TALK ABOUT THE IDEA BEHIND
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  • THE NEW BOOK,
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  • "DOUBLE BLESSING."
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  • WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY
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  • "DOUBLE BLESSING"?
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  • - MARK: YEAH, WELL, I
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  • THINK, FIRST OF ALL, IT'S
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  • IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND
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  • THERE WAS ORIGINAL
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  • BLESSING, AND SO THIS IS
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  • GOD'S MOST ANCIENT INSTINCT.
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  • GOD WANTS TO BLESS US
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  • BEYOND OUR ABILITY TO ASK
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  • NOW, HE'S NOT GONNA BLESS
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  • PRIDE OR GREED OR LAZINESS.
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  • WE'VE GOTTA POSITION
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  • BUT I BELIEVE THIS IS
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  • GOD'S HEART TOWARDS YOU
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  • AND TOWARDS ME, AND SO
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  • UNDERSTANDING THAT HE IS A
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  • GOD OF BLESSING, I THINK
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  • WE'VE GOTTA START RIGHT
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  • THERE.
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  • - ERIC: OKAY, SO I KNOW
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  • YOU'RE NOT A PROSPERITY
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  • GOSPEL PREACHER, SO THERE
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  • ARE PROBABLY PEOPLE
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  • LISTENING, WHO WOULD SAY,
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  • "I DON'T KNOW.
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  • THAT SOUNDS LIKE
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  • PROSPERITY PREACHING."
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  • WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE
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  • BETWEEN WHAT YOU MEAN BY
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  • THAT AND WHAT SOMEBODY
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  • ELSE MIGHT MEAN BY THAT?
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  • - MARK: YEAH, YOU KNOW,
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  • ERIC, I'M NOT SURE THAT WE
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  • KNOW ENOUGH UP FRONT TO
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  • KNOW IF SOMETHING'S A
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  • BLESSING OR A CURSE.
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  • SOME THINGS THAT WE THINK
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  • ARE A CURSE, END UP BEING
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  • AND SOME THINGS THAT WE
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  • THINK ARE A BLESSING, THEY
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  • BACKFIRE BECAUSE WE DON'T
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  • STEWARD THEM THE
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  • RIGHT WAY.
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  • AND SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK
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  • WE'VE GOTTA HUMBLY
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  • APPROACH THIS IDEA AND
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  • THEN UNDERSTAND THAT WE
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  • I MEAN, THIS IS AS OLD AS
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  • THE ABRAHAMIC COVENANT,
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  • AND THAT REALLY IS THE
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  • HEARTBEAT BEHIND
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  • I THINK THE WAY YOU GET IT
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  • IS BY GIVING IT, AND SO
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  • THAT REALLY IS THE SECRET
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  • - ERIC: THAT'S ONE OF MY
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  • FAVORITE SCRIPTURES.
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  • IF YOU'RE A PERSON OF
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  • FAITH, GOING BACK TO
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  • ABRAHAM,
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  • GOD BLESSES US SO THAT WE
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  • WILL BLESS OTHERS.
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  • HE DOESN'T JUST BLESS US
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  • AND SAY, "I LIKE YOU
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  • BETTER THAN THE OTHER
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  • PEOPLE.
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  • HE'S BLESSING US SO THAT
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  • WE CAN BLESS OTHER PEOPLE.
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  • - MARK: AND, ERIC, I
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  • THINK WE'VE GOTTA THINK IN
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  • TERMS OF TIME, TALENT, AND
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  • TREASURE, THAT,
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  • WHEN WE TALK ABOUT
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  • BLESSING OTHER PEOPLE, I
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  • THINK SOMETIMES WE THINK
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  • IN MONETARY TERMS, BUT,
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  • THE HARDEST THING FOR ME
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  • TO BE GENEROUS WITH IS MY
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  • TIME BECAUSE THAT IS IN
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  • SUCH SHORT SUPPLY, BUT,
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  • YOU KNOW, THE BASIC IDEA
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  • IS I DON'T THINK GOD
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  • BLESSES US TO RAISE OUR
  • 00:06:43.100 --> 00:06:44.200
  • STANDARD OF LIVING,
  • 00:06:44.200 --> 00:06:45.250
  • BLESSES US TO RAISE OUR
  • 00:06:45.250 --> 00:06:46.130
  • AND YOU AND I BOTH KNOW
  • 00:06:50.170 --> 00:06:51.100
  • THAT'S WHERE JOY IS FOUND.
  • 00:06:51.100 --> 00:06:52.010
  • IT'S FOUND ON THE GIVING
  • 00:06:52.010 --> 00:06:52.190
  • SIDE OF LIFE.
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  • YOU KNOW, JESUS SAID IT BEST:
  • 00:06:54.010 --> 00:06:55.220
  • "IT'S MORE BLESSED TO GIVE
  • 00:06:55.220 --> 00:06:57.100
  • THAN TO RECEIVE."
  • 00:06:57.100 --> 00:06:59.060
  • - ERIC: IT IS INTERESTING
  • 00:06:59.060 --> 00:07:00.050
  • BECAUSE WE DO--
  • 00:07:00.050 --> 00:07:01.280
  • YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS
  • 00:07:01.280 --> 00:07:03.200
  • CONCEPT OF GOD BLESSES US.
  • 00:07:03.200 --> 00:07:04.180
  • I MEAN, OR WE'RE TALKIN'
  • 00:07:05.130 --> 00:07:08.130
  • ABOUT THIS IDEA OF GOD
  • 00:07:08.130 --> 00:07:09.090
  • BLESSES US TO BE A
  • 00:07:09.090 --> 00:07:10.060
  • BLESSING, BUT YOU'RE
  • 00:07:10.060 --> 00:07:11.010
  • IF I BLESS OTHERS, IN A
  • 00:07:14.090 --> 00:07:15.230
  • WAY, GOD THEN IS MORE
  • 00:07:16.120 --> 00:07:19.120
  • INCLINED TO BLESS ME, THAT
  • 00:07:19.120 --> 00:07:20.010
  • IT'S LIKE A LOOP ALMOST?
  • 00:07:22.120 --> 00:07:23.200
  • AND, YOU KNOW, I'M, WELL
  • 00:07:26.160 --> 00:07:27.180
  • AWARE OF THIS LOGICAL
  • 00:07:27.180 --> 00:07:29.040
  • FALLACY, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:07:29.040 --> 00:07:30.100
  • CAUSATION WITHOUT
  • 00:07:30.140 --> 00:07:33.140
  • CORRELATION, BUT I REALLY
  • 00:07:33.140 --> 00:07:35.220
  • THINK, ERIC, IF GOD KNOWS
  • 00:07:35.220 --> 00:07:37.160
  • THAT YOU'RE NOT GONNA
  • 00:07:37.160 --> 00:07:39.060
  • SELFISHLY USE THE
  • 00:07:39.060 --> 00:07:41.130
  • BLESSING, WELL, THEN,
  • 00:07:41.130 --> 00:07:42.090
  • THERE'S NOTHING THAT KEEPS
  • 00:07:42.090 --> 00:07:43.290
  • HIM FROM POURING OUT MORE
  • 00:07:43.290 --> 00:07:45.050
  • BLESSING, AND, AGAIN, I
  • 00:07:45.050 --> 00:07:47.240
  • WANNA BE CAREFUL 'CAUSE I
  • 00:07:47.240 --> 00:07:48.260
  • THINK THAT THE BLESSING
  • 00:07:49.260 --> 00:07:52.260
  • ARE THE THINGS YOU CAN'T
  • 00:07:52.260 --> 00:07:53.140
  • PUT A PRICE TAG ON.
  • 00:07:53.140 --> 00:07:54.140
  • IT'S PEACE THAT PASSES
  • 00:07:54.140 --> 00:07:55.010
  • IT'S JOY UNSPEAKABLE.
  • 00:07:56.220 --> 00:07:58.060
  • IN FACT, I WOULD SAY IT'S
  • 00:07:58.060 --> 00:07:59.100
  • GOD WITH US, GOD FOR US,
  • 00:07:59.100 --> 00:07:59.280
  • GOD IN US, AND SO LET'S
  • 00:07:59.280 --> 00:08:01.080
  • NOT JUST REDUCE IT TO
  • 00:08:01.080 --> 00:08:02.220
  • SOMETHIN' WITH A DOLLAR
  • 00:08:02.220 --> 00:08:05.190
  • IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S SO
  • 00:08:08.170 --> 00:08:09.050
  • MUCH BIGGER, SO MUCH
  • 00:08:09.050 --> 00:08:10.040
  • BETTER THAN THAT.
  • 00:08:10.040 --> 00:08:11.050
  • - ERIC: YOU KNOW, I KNOW
  • 00:08:11.050 --> 00:08:11.290
  • THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE WHO
  • 00:08:11.290 --> 00:08:13.010
  • LISTEN TO THIS PROGRAM,
  • 00:08:13.010 --> 00:08:13.190
  • WHO WOULD NOT CALL
  • 00:08:13.190 --> 00:08:15.090
  • THEMSELVES CHRISTIANS, OR
  • 00:08:15.090 --> 00:08:16.100
  • MAYBE THEY WOULD SAY,
  • 00:08:16.100 --> 00:08:17.080
  • "WELL, I'M NOT A
  • 00:08:17.080 --> 00:08:17.220
  • CHRISTIAN, LIKE YOU,
  • 00:08:17.220 --> 00:08:19.110
  • OR WHATEVER THAT IS, AND I
  • 00:08:20.130 --> 00:08:21.090
  • WANNA SAY TO THOSE FOLKS,
  • 00:08:21.090 --> 00:08:21.280
  • BECAUSE IT COMES RIGHT OUT
  • 00:08:21.280 --> 00:08:22.170
  • THAT THERE IS NOTHING MORE
  • 00:08:24.130 --> 00:08:26.010
  • WONDERFUL IN THE WORLD
  • 00:08:26.010 --> 00:08:26.180
  • THAN FEELING THAT THE GOD
  • 00:08:26.180 --> 00:08:28.290
  • OF THE UNIVERSE IS USING
  • 00:08:28.290 --> 00:08:30.040
  • YOU TO BLESS OTHER PEOPLE.
  • 00:08:30.040 --> 00:08:32.070
  • IT'S JUST THE MOST
  • 00:08:32.070 --> 00:08:32.230
  • BEAUTIFUL THING.
  • 00:08:32.230 --> 00:08:34.020
  • YOU TALK ABOUT BEING IN
  • 00:08:34.020 --> 00:08:34.270
  • SYNC WITH THE UNIVERSE,
  • 00:08:34.270 --> 00:08:35.260
  • GOD CREATED US TO BLESS
  • 00:08:39.020 --> 00:08:40.210
  • OTHER PEOPLE, TO BE USED
  • 00:08:40.210 --> 00:08:42.000
  • TO TOUCH OTHER PEOPLE, TO
  • 00:08:42.000 --> 00:08:42.190
  • BLESS OTHER PEOPLE, AND
  • 00:08:42.190 --> 00:08:43.240
  • WHENEVER I HAVE FELT THAT,
  • 00:08:43.240 --> 00:08:45.150
  • IF I'VE SPOKEN SOMEPLACE
  • 00:08:45.150 --> 00:08:46.180
  • AND I FELT THAT PEOPLE
  • 00:08:46.180 --> 00:08:47.260
  • IT THRILLS ME.
  • 00:08:49.230 --> 00:08:51.210
  • I DON'T GET PAID MORE
  • 00:08:51.210 --> 00:08:52.080
  • MONEY.
  • 00:08:52.080 --> 00:08:53.160
  • I GET A BLESSING BECAUSE I
  • 00:08:53.160 --> 00:08:54.160
  • THINK, "THIS IS EXACTLY
  • 00:08:54.160 --> 00:08:55.140
  • WHAT I WAS BORN TO DO,"
  • 00:08:55.140 --> 00:08:57.230
  • AND IT JUST THRILLS ME
  • 00:08:57.230 --> 00:08:59.110
  • WHEN I CAN SEE THAT.
  • 00:08:59.110 --> 00:09:01.210
  • NOW, YOU'VE BEEN PASTORING
  • 00:09:01.210 --> 00:09:03.010
  • YOUR CHURCH, THE NATIONAL
  • 00:09:03.010 --> 00:09:04.250
  • IT'S AN INNOVATIVE
  • 00:09:08.250 --> 00:09:09.150
  • CONCEPT, AND CAN YOU TALK
  • 00:09:09.150 --> 00:09:10.040
  • BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'M THINKIN',
  • 00:09:11.100 --> 00:09:12.040
  • "I'M SITTING HERE, WEARING
  • 00:09:12.040 --> 00:09:12.230
  • A DOUBLE-BREASTED BLAZER,
  • 00:09:12.230 --> 00:09:14.090
  • HORN RIMS, TIE, AND
  • 00:09:14.090 --> 00:09:16.090
  • YOU'RE LOOKING LIKE YOU'RE
  • 00:09:16.090 --> 00:09:16.290
  • JUST HANGING' OUT, MAN,
  • 00:09:16.290 --> 00:09:17.200
  • "YOU GOT A SWEET GIG."
  • 00:09:19.120 --> 00:09:20.050
  • HOW IS YOUR CHURCH
  • 00:09:20.050 --> 00:09:21.100
  • INNOVATIVE AND DIFFERENT
  • 00:09:21.100 --> 00:09:22.070
  • - MARK: YEAH, WELL, YOU
  • 00:09:25.230 --> 00:09:26.120
  • KNOW, ERIC, I THINK OUR
  • 00:09:26.120 --> 00:09:27.000
  • MAKEUP IS PRETTY UNIQUE IN
  • 00:09:27.000 --> 00:09:27.220
  • THAT WE'RE ABOUT 50%
  • 00:09:27.220 --> 00:09:29.140
  • SINGLE, 20-SOMETHINGS, SO
  • 00:09:29.140 --> 00:09:30.290
  • A LOT OF THOSE HILL
  • 00:09:30.290 --> 00:09:33.000
  • STAFFERS THAT ARE DRAFTING
  • 00:09:33.000 --> 00:09:34.210
  • LEGISLATION AND KIND OF
  • 00:09:34.210 --> 00:09:36.190
  • WORKING BEHIND THE SCENES,
  • 00:09:36.190 --> 00:09:37.220
  • WE REALLY FEEL LIKE THE
  • 00:09:39.250 --> 00:09:40.130
  • CHURCH OUGHT TO BE MORE
  • 00:09:40.130 --> 00:09:41.010
  • KNOWN FOR WHAT IT'S FOR
  • 00:09:41.010 --> 00:09:41.190
  • THAN WHAT IT'S AGAINST,
  • 00:09:41.190 --> 00:09:42.280
  • AND SO WE'RE TRYIN' TO NOT
  • 00:09:42.280 --> 00:09:45.230
  • JUST BUILD A CHURCH, BUT
  • 00:09:45.230 --> 00:09:47.150
  • BLESS A CITY, AND SO WE'VE
  • 00:09:47.150 --> 00:09:48.240
  • GOT A DC DREAM CENTER
  • 00:09:48.240 --> 00:09:50.090
  • WHERE WE'RE MENTORING
  • 00:09:50.090 --> 00:09:50.260
  • HUNDREDS OF KIDS.
  • 00:09:50.260 --> 00:09:52.080
  • WE'RE VERY INVOLVED WITH
  • 00:09:52.110 --> 00:09:55.110
  • OUR FRIENDS EXPERIENCING
  • 00:09:55.110 --> 00:09:57.040
  • WE'VE TAKEN ABOUT 272
  • 00:09:59.170 --> 00:10:00.240
  • MISSIONS TRIPS OVER THE
  • 00:10:00.240 --> 00:10:01.120
  • LAST 17 YEARS, AND SO WE
  • 00:10:01.120 --> 00:10:02.210
  • REALLY BELIEVE IN A
  • 00:10:02.210 --> 00:10:03.200
  • HANDS-ON GOSPEL AND JUST
  • 00:10:03.200 --> 00:10:05.250
  • TRYING TO LOVE PEOPLE
  • 00:10:05.250 --> 00:10:07.200
  • WHERE THEY ARE.
  • 00:10:07.230 --> 00:10:10.230
  • - ERIC: WELL, THAT'S--
  • 00:10:10.230 --> 00:10:11.110
  • I JUST-- I KNOW OF YOU
  • 00:10:14.180 --> 00:10:15.060
  • THROUGH SO MANY MUTUAL
  • 00:10:15.060 --> 00:10:15.260
  • FRIENDS.
  • 00:10:15.260 --> 00:10:16.220
  • SO I WANNA GO BACK TO YOUR
  • 00:10:16.220 --> 00:10:18.100
  • BOOK.
  • 00:10:18.100 --> 00:10:18.240
  • YOU SAID THIS A MINUTE AGO:
  • 00:10:18.240 --> 00:10:20.010
  • "GOD DOESN'T BLESS US TO
  • 00:10:20.010 --> 00:10:21.140
  • RAISE OUR STANDARD OF LIVING.
  • 00:10:21.140 --> 00:10:22.200
  • GOD BLESSES US TO RAISE
  • 00:10:22.200 --> 00:10:24.240
  • OUR STANDARD OF GIVING."
  • 00:10:24.240 --> 00:10:27.200
  • LIKE, THAT'S ANOTHER ONE
  • 00:10:27.200 --> 00:10:28.080
  • OF THESE GREAT-- YOU NEED
  • 00:10:28.080 --> 00:10:29.030
  • TO TRADEMARK THAT.
  • 00:10:29.030 --> 00:10:30.020
  • IT'S ALREADY TRADEMARKED.
  • 00:10:30.020 --> 00:10:31.220
  • IN THE BOOK, BUT WHAT A
  • 00:10:31.220 --> 00:10:32.200
  • BEAUTIFUL IDEA.
  • 00:10:32.200 --> 00:10:33.120
  • TALK ABOUT THAT IF YOU
  • 00:10:33.120 --> 00:10:33.290
  • DON'T MIND."
  • 00:10:33.290 --> 00:10:34.210
  • MY WIFE AND I LIVE BY THIS
  • 00:10:41.040 --> 00:10:42.010
  • LITTLE MANTRA, "FLIP THE
  • 00:10:42.010 --> 00:10:43.000
  • BLESSING," AND SO IT
  • 00:10:43.000 --> 00:10:44.040
  • STARTS WITH JUST TAKING
  • 00:10:44.040 --> 00:10:45.110
  • INVENTORY OF HOW HAVE
  • 00:10:45.110 --> 00:10:46.260
  • OTHER PEOPLE BLESSED ME,
  • 00:10:46.260 --> 00:10:49.030
  • BOTH IN TERMS OF TIME,
  • 00:10:49.030 --> 00:10:50.070
  • TALENT, AND TREASURE, AND
  • 00:10:50.070 --> 00:10:51.040
  • I TAKE GOOD NOTES, ERIC.
  • 00:10:51.040 --> 00:10:53.130
  • I KEEP TRACK OF THE WAYS
  • 00:10:53.130 --> 00:10:55.170
  • THAT PEOPLE BLESS ME, AND
  • 00:10:55.170 --> 00:10:57.000
  • THEN I HAVE FUN WITH IT.
  • 00:10:57.000 --> 00:10:58.220
  • I TRY TO FLIP THE
  • 00:10:58.220 --> 00:10:59.240
  • BLESSING, AND I CERTAINLY
  • 00:10:59.240 --> 00:11:01.020
  • PUT MY FINGERPRINT ON IT
  • 00:11:01.020 --> 00:11:02.190
  • AND DO IT IN A WAY THAT'S
  • 00:11:02.190 --> 00:11:04.020
  • BUT IT'S BECOME A WAY OF
  • 00:11:07.190 --> 00:11:08.090
  • LIFE FOR US.
  • 00:11:08.090 --> 00:11:08.240
  • WE JUST TRY--
  • 00:11:08.240 --> 00:11:09.130
  • - ERIC: WHAT DO YOU MEAN
  • 00:11:09.130 --> 00:11:10.020
  • BY THAT?
  • 00:11:10.020 --> 00:11:10.200
  • I'M NOT TRACKING.
  • 00:11:10.200 --> 00:11:11.120
  • WHAT DO YOU MEAN, YOU PUT
  • 00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:12.020
  • YOUR FINGERPRINTS ON IT,
  • 00:11:12.020 --> 00:11:12.250
  • AND YOU FLIP THE BLESSING?
  • 00:11:12.250 --> 00:11:13.140
  • WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
  • 00:11:13.140 --> 00:11:14.160
  • - MARK: YEAH, SO IT'S NOT
  • 00:11:14.160 --> 00:11:15.100
  • AS SIMPLE AS, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:11:15.100 --> 00:11:16.130
  • SOMEONE GIVES ME A GIFT
  • 00:11:16.130 --> 00:11:17.100
  • CARD, I GIVE SOMEONE ELSE
  • 00:11:17.100 --> 00:11:18.080
  • THE SAME GIFT CARD.
  • 00:11:18.080 --> 00:11:20.030
  • I THINK-- I'LL GIVE YOU AN
  • 00:11:20.030 --> 00:11:20.250
  • BEFORE I WROTE MY FIRST
  • 00:11:23.270 --> 00:11:24.230
  • BOOK, I HAD NO IDEA WHERE
  • 00:11:24.230 --> 00:11:26.040
  • TO GO, WHO TO TALK TO, AND
  • 00:11:26.040 --> 00:11:27.060
  • A PASTOR GRACIOUSLY TOOK
  • 00:11:27.060 --> 00:11:30.030
  • TIME THAT HE DID NOT HAVE
  • 00:11:30.030 --> 00:11:31.250
  • TO HELP ME FIND AN AGENT,
  • 00:11:31.250 --> 00:11:33.270
  • FIND A PUBLISHER.
  • 00:11:33.270 --> 00:11:35.140
  • WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU AND I
  • 00:11:35.140 --> 00:11:37.100
  • ARE BOTH PRETTY BUSY, BUT
  • 00:11:37.100 --> 00:11:40.010
  • I TRY TO TAKE TIME FOR
  • 00:11:40.010 --> 00:11:41.000
  • OTHERS WHO ARE THOSE
  • 00:11:41.000 --> 00:11:43.090
  • FIRST-TIME AUTHORS WHO
  • 00:11:43.090 --> 00:11:44.040
  • AND SO THAT'S JUST KIND OF
  • 00:11:47.140 --> 00:11:48.030
  • A SIMPLE EXAMPLE OF I WAS
  • 00:11:48.030 --> 00:11:48.270
  • TREMENDOUSLY BLESSED BY
  • 00:11:48.270 --> 00:11:50.070
  • THIS OTHER PASTOR, AND I
  • 00:11:50.070 --> 00:11:51.040
  • WANNA RETURN THAT FAVOR.
  • 00:11:51.040 --> 00:11:53.240
  • I WANNA FLIP THAT BLESSING.
  • 00:11:53.240 --> 00:11:55.020
  • - ERIC: SO WHEN YOU SAY,
  • 00:11:55.020 --> 00:11:56.000
  • "FLIP THE BLESSING," YOU
  • 00:11:56.000 --> 00:11:56.230
  • DON'T MEAN FLIP IT BACK AT
  • 00:11:56.230 --> 00:11:57.210
  • THE PERSON WHO BLESSED
  • 00:11:57.210 --> 00:11:58.240
  • YOU, BUT, JUST, YOU KNOW--
  • 00:11:58.240 --> 00:12:00.190
  • WELL, I GUESS THERE'S
  • 00:12:00.190 --> 00:12:01.060
  • ANOTHER-- WHAT DO THEY
  • 00:12:01.060 --> 00:12:03.050
  • CALL THAT?
  • 00:12:03.050 --> 00:12:03.240
  • "PAY IT FORWARD?"
  • 00:12:03.240 --> 00:12:04.140
  • I MEAN, IT'S A PRINCIPLE
  • 00:12:04.140 --> 00:12:05.130
  • OF LIFE, REALLY, THAT
  • 00:12:05.130 --> 00:12:06.030
  • WORKS WHETHER YOU'RE A
  • 00:12:06.030 --> 00:12:07.100
  • CHRISTIAN OR NOT, BUT WE
  • 00:12:07.100 --> 00:12:08.220
  • JUST HAPPEN TO KNOW WHERE
  • 00:12:08.220 --> 00:12:09.110
  • IT COMES FROM.
  • 00:12:09.110 --> 00:12:10.180
  • - MARK: YEAH, AND I WOULD
  • 00:12:10.180 --> 00:12:11.140
  • EVEN SAY IT'S MOST FUN
  • 00:12:11.140 --> 00:12:13.130
  • WHEN YOU FLIP THE BLESSING
  • 00:12:13.130 --> 00:12:14.290
  • FOR SOMEONE WHO CAN'T PAY
  • 00:12:14.290 --> 00:12:16.150
  • WHO IS NOT IN A POSITION
  • 00:12:19.110 --> 00:12:20.160
  • TO MAYBE RETURN THAT FAVOR.
  • 00:12:20.160 --> 00:12:21.150
  • I THINK THAT IS OFTEN
  • 00:12:21.150 --> 00:12:23.220
  • WHERE THE GREATEST JOY IS
  • 00:12:23.220 --> 00:12:25.200
  • FOUND, AND SO, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:12:25.200 --> 00:12:27.030
  • AND HONESTLY, I THINK WE
  • 00:12:27.030 --> 00:12:29.210
  • OUGHT TO HAVE FUN WITH IT.
  • 00:12:29.210 --> 00:12:31.010
  • GET CREATIVE WITH IT.
  • 00:12:31.010 --> 00:12:32.230
  • YOU KNOW, WE HAVE FRIENDS
  • 00:12:32.230 --> 00:12:34.230
  • WHO THEY CALL IT "ELFING."
  • 00:12:34.230 --> 00:12:37.030
  • THEY IDENTIFY A FAMILY AT
  • 00:12:37.030 --> 00:12:39.150
  • CHRISTMAS, AND THEN
  • 00:12:39.150 --> 00:12:40.080
  • THEY'RE, KIND OF,
  • 00:12:40.080 --> 00:12:41.280
  • CHRISTMAS ELVES FOR 12
  • 00:12:41.280 --> 00:12:43.120
  • DAYS, DELIVERING GIFTS
  • 00:12:43.120 --> 00:12:44.260
  • VERY DISCREETLY AND THEN
  • 00:12:44.260 --> 00:12:47.190
  • DISAPPEARING INTO THE NIGHT.
  • 00:12:47.190 --> 00:12:49.220
  • YOU KNOW, WHAT A WONDERFUL
  • 00:12:49.220 --> 00:12:50.140
  • WAY OF JUST EXPRESSING
  • 00:12:50.140 --> 00:12:52.260
  • GENEROSITY, BUT DOING IT
  • 00:12:52.260 --> 00:12:54.060
  • IN A WAY THAT MAYBE IS A
  • 00:12:54.110 --> 00:12:57.110
  • LITTLE BIT MORE FUN.
  • 00:12:57.110 --> 00:12:58.210
  • - ERIC: WELL, GIVE US
  • 00:12:58.210 --> 00:12:59.160
  • SOME OTHER EXAMPLES FROM
  • 00:12:59.160 --> 00:13:01.000
  • THE BOOK OF HOW THIS CAN
  • 00:13:01.000 --> 00:13:02.280
  • BE LIVED OUT.
  • 00:13:02.280 --> 00:13:04.100
  • - MARK: YEAH, YOU KNOW, I
  • 00:13:04.100 --> 00:13:05.090
  • THINK IT'S-- YOU KNOW,
  • 00:13:05.090 --> 00:13:08.050
  • MY FIRST JOB WAS WORKIN' AT A
  • 00:13:08.050 --> 00:13:09.090
  • GAS STATION, AND ONE OF
  • 00:13:09.090 --> 00:13:10.140
  • THE THINGS I DID WAS
  • 00:13:10.140 --> 00:13:12.050
  • TAKING INVENTORY, AND IF
  • 00:13:12.050 --> 00:13:13.290
  • YOU MISSED AN ITEM, IT
  • 00:13:13.290 --> 00:13:15.120
  • DIDN'T GET RESTOCKED, AND
  • 00:13:15.120 --> 00:13:16.260
  • SO I THINK IT JUST STARTS
  • 00:13:16.260 --> 00:13:18.010
  • WITH TAKING GOOD INVENTORY
  • 00:13:18.010 --> 00:13:20.030
  • OF YOUR BLESSINGS.
  • 00:13:20.030 --> 00:13:21.230
  • AN OBSERVANT JEW WOULD
  • 00:13:21.230 --> 00:13:22.210
  • ACTUALLY OFFER 100
  • 00:13:22.210 --> 00:13:24.270
  • BLESSINGS A DAY, AND SO
  • 00:13:24.270 --> 00:13:26.030
  • THEY WOULD BLESS GOD FOR
  • 00:13:26.030 --> 00:13:28.110
  • IN FACT, THE TALMUD, THE
  • 00:13:30.140 --> 00:13:31.020
  • JEWISH COMMENTARY IN THE
  • 00:13:31.020 --> 00:13:32.120
  • OLD TESTAMENT, SAYS A MAN
  • 00:13:32.120 --> 00:13:33.200
  • EMBEZZLES FROM GOD IF HE
  • 00:13:33.200 --> 00:13:35.090
  • DOES NOT GIVE THANKS FOR
  • 00:13:35.090 --> 00:13:36.200
  • THE THINGS THAT GOD
  • 00:13:36.200 --> 00:13:38.030
  • PROVIDES, AND SO I THINK
  • 00:13:38.030 --> 00:13:40.080
  • ANYTHING LESS THAN
  • 00:13:40.080 --> 00:13:41.060
  • GRATITUDE, IN A SENSE, IS
  • 00:13:41.060 --> 00:13:43.180
  • GRAND LARCENY, AND SO IT
  • 00:13:43.180 --> 00:13:44.160
  • AND THEN I THINK IT TURNS
  • 00:13:46.140 --> 00:13:47.180
  • INTO GENEROSITY WHERE YOU
  • 00:13:47.180 --> 00:13:49.000
  • JUST FIND WAYS TO USE YOUR
  • 00:13:49.000 --> 00:13:50.170
  • TIME, TALENT, AND TREASURE
  • 00:13:50.170 --> 00:13:52.140
  • TO BLESS OTHER PEOPLE,
  • 00:13:52.140 --> 00:13:55.110
  • AND, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES
  • 00:13:55.110 --> 00:13:56.140
  • OR EVEN IN OUR CULTURE,
  • 00:14:00.180 --> 00:14:01.060
  • ERIC, I MEAN, UNDIVIDED
  • 00:14:01.060 --> 00:14:02.100
  • ATTENTION, WHAT A
  • 00:14:02.100 --> 00:14:03.150
  • TREMENDOUS GIFT THAT IS
  • 00:14:03.150 --> 00:14:04.180
  • WITH ALL OF THE
  • 00:14:04.180 --> 00:14:06.100
  • DISTRACTIONS AND ALL OF
  • 00:14:06.100 --> 00:14:09.040
  • SOMETIMES IT'S AS SIMPLE
  • 00:14:13.160 --> 00:14:14.210
  • AS JUST BEING FULLY
  • 00:14:14.210 --> 00:14:15.220
  • PRESENT WITH ANOTHER PERSON.
  • 00:14:15.220 --> 00:14:17.150
  • - ERIC: GIVING ATTENTION
  • 00:14:17.150 --> 00:14:19.100
  • TO SOMEBODY IS LIKE ONE OF
  • 00:14:19.100 --> 00:14:20.150
  • THE GREATEST GIFTS YOU CAN
  • 00:14:20.150 --> 00:14:21.140
  • IT'S KIND OF AMAZING THAT
  • 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:25.130
  • WE HAVE TO BRING THAT UP,
  • 00:14:25.130 --> 00:14:26.220
  • BUT WE'RE ALL BUSY AND
  • 00:14:26.220 --> 00:14:27.170
  • DISTRACTED.
  • 00:14:27.170 --> 00:14:28.200
  • - MARK: IT REALLY IS.
  • 00:14:28.200 --> 00:14:30.240
  • ERIC, I HAVE A MENTOR AND
  • 00:14:30.240 --> 00:14:33.020
  • A SPIRITUAL FATHER, NAMED
  • 00:14:33.020 --> 00:14:34.070
  • DICK FOTH, WHO SAYS THERE
  • 00:14:34.120 --> 00:14:37.120
  • ARE TWO KINDS OF PEOPLE IN
  • 00:14:37.120 --> 00:14:38.290
  • THE WORLD: THERE'S ONE
  • 00:14:38.290 --> 00:14:39.160
  • PERSON WHO WALKS INTO A
  • 00:14:39.160 --> 00:14:41.100
  • ROOM AND SAYS, "HERE I AM."
  • 00:14:41.100 --> 00:14:42.150
  • THEY KIND OF ANNOUNCE
  • 00:14:42.150 --> 00:14:44.140
  • THEMSELF.
  • 00:14:44.140 --> 00:14:45.270
  • THE WORLD REVOLVES AROUND THEM.
  • 00:14:45.270 --> 00:14:46.290
  • EGO BARELY FITS THROUGH
  • 00:14:46.290 --> 00:14:47.170
  • THE DOOR.
  • 00:14:47.170 --> 00:14:48.060
  • WE ALL KNOW A FEW PEOPLE
  • 00:14:48.060 --> 00:14:49.050
  • LIKE THAT.
  • 00:14:49.050 --> 00:14:49.210
  • AND THEN HE SAID THERE'S A
  • 00:14:49.210 --> 00:14:52.190
  • SECOND KIND OF PERSON THAT
  • 00:14:52.190 --> 00:14:53.150
  • WALKS IN AND SAYS,
  • 00:14:53.150 --> 00:14:54.000
  • "THERE YOU ARE."
  • 00:14:54.000 --> 00:14:55.200
  • IN OTHER WORDS,
  • 00:14:55.200 --> 00:14:56.190
  • IT'S SOMEONE WHO'S ABOUT
  • 00:14:56.190 --> 00:14:58.120
  • EVERYBODY ELSE, AND,
  • 00:14:58.120 --> 00:14:59.140
  • YOU KNOW, REALLY HIGH
  • 00:14:59.140 --> 00:15:01.010
  • AND JUST AN ABILITY TO
  • 00:15:03.250 --> 00:15:05.230
  • READ A ROOM AND REALLY
  • 00:15:05.230 --> 00:15:06.290
  • CARE ABOUT PEOPLE, AND SO
  • 00:15:06.290 --> 00:15:08.080
  • I KIND OF CALLED THIS
  • 00:15:08.080 --> 00:15:09.210
  • IDEA, JUST, "LEADING WITH
  • 00:15:09.210 --> 00:15:11.030
  • BLESSING," AND IT'S WHAT
  • 00:15:11.030 --> 00:15:13.170
  • JESUS SAID IN MATTHEW 10,
  • 00:15:13.170 --> 00:15:14.240
  • WHEN YOU ENTER A HOME,
  • 00:15:17.150 --> 00:15:18.020
  • GIVE IT YOUR BLESSING, AND
  • 00:15:18.020 --> 00:15:19.160
  • I THINK WE DO THE OPPOSITE.
  • 00:15:19.160 --> 00:15:20.230
  • WE DO A QUICK ASSESSMENT
  • 00:15:20.230 --> 00:15:23.060
  • TO SEE WHETHER THEY'RE
  • 00:15:23.060 --> 00:15:24.060
  • WORTHY OF THE BLESSING OR
  • 00:15:24.060 --> 00:15:25.040
  • NOT BEFORE WE GIVE IT, BUT
  • 00:15:25.040 --> 00:15:27.210
  • JESUS MODELED THIS IDEA OF
  • 00:15:27.210 --> 00:15:29.000
  • LEADING WITH BLESSING,
  • 00:15:29.040 --> 00:15:32.040
  • AND I THINK IF WE DID THAT
  • 00:15:32.040 --> 00:15:32.230
  • MORE, I THINK OUR CULTURE
  • 00:15:32.230 --> 00:15:35.210
  • MIGHT LOOK A LITTLE BIT
  • 00:15:35.210 --> 00:15:36.220
  • DIFFERENT.
  • 00:15:36.220 --> 00:15:39.020
  • - ERIC: AND I THINK WE
  • 00:15:39.020 --> 00:15:40.250
  • ALSO-- YOU KNOW, UNLESS
  • 00:15:40.250 --> 00:15:41.250
  • YOU REALLY HAVE A PERSONAL
  • 00:15:41.250 --> 00:15:42.190
  • RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS,
  • 00:15:42.190 --> 00:15:44.060
  • YOU MIGHT BE AFRAID THAT
  • 00:15:44.060 --> 00:15:45.110
  • THIS ISN'T GONNA WORK
  • 00:15:45.110 --> 00:15:46.020
  • IF I GO IN A ROOM, AND I
  • 00:15:50.060 --> 00:15:50.240
  • JUST AM TALKING TO A--
  • 00:15:50.240 --> 00:15:51.110
  • I WALK UP TO A TOTAL
  • 00:15:51.110 --> 00:15:52.130
  • STRANGER, OR WHATEVER, I
  • 00:15:52.130 --> 00:15:53.190
  • KNOW THE LORD IS WITH ME
  • 00:15:53.190 --> 00:15:54.130
  • AND WANTS TO HONOR THAT
  • 00:15:54.130 --> 00:15:55.280
  • CONVERSATION EVEN IF I
  • 00:15:55.280 --> 00:15:57.150
  • DON'T GET ANYTHING OUT OF
  • 00:15:57.150 --> 00:15:58.110
  • IT, PARTICULARLY,
  • 00:15:58.110 --> 00:16:00.120
  • AS THOUGH, YOU KNOW, THE WAY
  • 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:02.000
  • WE LOOK AT THINGS
  • 00:16:02.000 --> 00:16:02.150
  • SOMETIMES IN THIS
  • 00:16:02.150 --> 00:16:04.030
  • QUID PRO QUO WAY THAT WE LIVE,
  • 00:16:04.030 --> 00:16:05.180
  • THAT I KNOW THAT I CAN'T
  • 00:16:05.180 --> 00:16:07.070
  • IF I'M JUST BEING PRESENT
  • 00:16:09.280 --> 00:16:10.170
  • TO SOMEBODY, WHATEVER,
  • 00:16:10.170 --> 00:16:11.040
  • GOD IS IN IT.
  • 00:16:11.040 --> 00:16:11.250
  • I DON'T NEED TO WORRY
  • 00:16:11.250 --> 00:16:12.120
  • I CAN JUST TRUST HIM.
  • 00:16:14.040 --> 00:16:15.010
  • - MARK: I KIND OF LIVE BY
  • 00:16:15.010 --> 00:16:16.140
  • THIS LITTLE IDEA, ERIC,
  • 00:16:16.140 --> 00:16:17.080
  • THAT, IF WE STAY HUMBLE
  • 00:16:17.270 --> 00:16:20.270
  • THERE'S NOTHING THAT GOD
  • 00:16:22.190 --> 00:16:23.260
  • CAN'T DO IN US OR THROUGH US.
  • 00:16:23.260 --> 00:16:25.130
  • I AM ABSOLUTELY CONVINCED
  • 00:16:25.130 --> 00:16:26.260
  • GOD WANTS TO BLESS US
  • 00:16:26.260 --> 00:16:28.140
  • BEYOND WHAT WE CAN ASK OR
  • 00:16:28.140 --> 00:16:30.190
  • IMAGINE, AND AS LONG AS WE
  • 00:16:30.190 --> 00:16:32.080
  • ARE FLIPPING THAT
  • 00:16:32.080 --> 00:16:33.230
  • BLESSING, IT'S GAME-ON.
  • 00:16:33.230 --> 00:16:35.010
  • - ERIC: WELL, THAT'S A
  • 00:16:35.010 --> 00:16:35.230
  • BEAUTIFUL PLACE TO END.
  • 00:16:35.230 --> 00:16:37.030
  • CONGRATULATIONS ON ANOTHER
  • 00:16:39.080 --> 00:16:39.270
  • BEST SELLER,
  • 00:16:39.270 --> 00:16:42.110
  • "DOUBLE BLESSING:
  • 00:16:42.110 --> 00:16:42.260
  • HOW TO GIVE IT."
  • 00:16:42.260 --> 00:16:43.190
  • NOW, OF COURSE,
  • 00:16:43.190 --> 00:16:44.080
  • I'M GONNA HUNT FOR
  • 00:16:44.080 --> 00:16:44.230
  • THE PASSAGE IMMEDIATELY TO
  • 00:16:44.230 --> 00:16:46.020
  • SEE WHAT YOU SAY ABOUT ME IN
  • 00:16:46.020 --> 00:16:48.110
  • THE BOOK, AND I WILL SUE YOU.
  • 00:16:48.110 --> 00:16:50.020
  • I AM SO GRATEFUL, AND I'M
  • 00:16:53.080 --> 00:16:53.270
  • EMBARRASSED.
  • 00:16:53.270 --> 00:16:54.210
  • GOD BLESS YOU, MARK.
  • 00:16:54.210 --> 00:16:55.240
  • I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING
  • 00:16:55.240 --> 00:16:56.120
  • YOU IN PERSON AS SOON AS
  • 00:16:56.120 --> 00:16:57.220
  • POSSIBLE.
  • 00:16:57.220 --> 00:16:58.150
  • THANK YOU FOR THE BOOK.
  • 00:16:58.150 --> 00:16:59.080
  • THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
  • 00:16:59.080 --> 00:16:59.260
  • - MARK: LOVE IT.
  • 00:16:59.260 --> 00:17:01.010
  • [MUSIC]
  • 00:17:06.030 --> 00:17:09.030
  • - ERIC: HEY,
  • 00:17:09.030 --> 00:17:11.150
  • THERE, FOLKS.
  • 00:17:11.150 --> 00:17:12.200
  • I'M SITTING HERE WITH
  • 00:17:15.190 --> 00:17:16.060
  • SOMEONE I LIKE TO CALL
  • 00:17:16.060 --> 00:17:16.230
  • FRANKLIN GRAHAM, WELCOME
  • 00:17:18.190 --> 00:17:19.070
  • - FRANKLIN GRAHAM: THANK
  • 00:17:20.150 --> 00:17:21.040
  • YOU, IT'S GOOD TO BE WITH
  • 00:17:21.040 --> 00:17:21.230
  • YOU AGAIN.
  • 00:17:21.230 --> 00:17:23.000
  • - ERIC: YOU HAVE BEEN
  • 00:17:23.000 --> 00:17:24.100
  • DOING SO MUCH OVER SO MANY
  • 00:17:24.100 --> 00:17:25.290
  • YEARS THAT VERY FEW PEOPLE
  • 00:17:25.290 --> 00:17:28.000
  • THINK OF YOU ANYMORE FIRST
  • 00:17:28.060 --> 00:17:31.060
  • AS THE SON OF BILLY GRAHAM
  • 00:17:31.060 --> 00:17:32.060
  • BUT I'M SURE THERE ARE
  • 00:17:38.220 --> 00:17:40.270
  • TONS OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T
  • 00:17:40.270 --> 00:17:41.160
  • KNOW HALF OF WHAT YOU DO,
  • 00:17:41.160 --> 00:17:42.140
  • SO I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT
  • 00:17:42.140 --> 00:17:43.070
  • SOME OF THAT TODAY AND
  • 00:17:43.070 --> 00:17:44.030
  • PARTICULARLY WHAT YOU CALL
  • 00:17:44.060 --> 00:17:47.060
  • "OPERATION CHRISTMAS CHILD."
  • 00:17:47.060 --> 00:17:50.000
  • I WANNA DIVE RIGHT INTO
  • 00:17:50.000 --> 00:17:51.210
  • THAT SINCE IT'S TIMELY.
  • 00:17:51.210 --> 00:17:53.210
  • SO TELL US, IF SOMEBODY
  • 00:17:53.210 --> 00:17:54.270
  • KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT IT,
  • 00:17:54.270 --> 00:17:56.040
  • WHICH MUCH OF MY AUDIENCE
  • 00:17:56.040 --> 00:17:57.190
  • WON'T, WHAT IS THAT?
  • 00:17:57.190 --> 00:17:59.070
  • - FRANKLIN: IT'S TAKING--
  • 00:17:59.070 --> 00:18:01.230
  • ASKING PEOPLE, FAMILIES,
  • 00:18:01.230 --> 00:18:02.230
  • INDIVIDUALS, TAKING A SHOE
  • 00:18:02.230 --> 00:18:04.130
  • BOX, FILLIN' IT WITH ITEMS
  • 00:18:04.130 --> 00:18:05.160
  • FOR A CHILD.
  • 00:18:05.160 --> 00:18:06.110
  • IF IT'S A GIRL, A DOLL,
  • 00:18:06.110 --> 00:18:07.190
  • SOMETHING FOR HER HAIR,
  • 00:18:07.190 --> 00:18:09.200
  • SCHOOL SUPPLIES, 'CAUSE WE
  • 00:18:09.200 --> 00:18:11.210
  • TAKE THESE TO THIRD WORLD
  • 00:18:11.210 --> 00:18:12.130
  • COUNTRIES.
  • 00:18:12.130 --> 00:18:13.080
  • - ERIC: SO YOU FILL A
  • 00:18:13.080 --> 00:18:14.000
  • SHOE BOX--
  • 00:18:14.000 --> 00:18:14.220
  • - FRANKLIN: FOR TOYS
  • 00:18:14.220 --> 00:18:16.110
  • FOR A KID.
  • 00:18:16.110 --> 00:18:17.290
  • - ERIC: -- WITH TOYS FOR
  • 00:18:17.290 --> 00:18:19.160
  • A BOY OR A GIRL.
  • 00:18:19.160 --> 00:18:20.060
  • - FRANKLIN: A BOY OR
  • 00:18:20.060 --> 00:18:20.250
  • GIRL, AND THEN WE ASK YOU,
  • 00:18:20.250 --> 00:18:21.280
  • PUT YOUR PICTURE IN THERE,
  • 00:18:21.280 --> 00:18:22.210
  • 'CAUSE I WANT THE PERSON,
  • 00:18:22.210 --> 00:18:23.250
  • THE KID WHO GETS THE BOX,
  • 00:18:23.250 --> 00:18:24.250
  • TO SEE WHO GAVE THE BOX.
  • 00:18:24.250 --> 00:18:26.120
  • IF YOU WANT, PUT YOUR
  • 00:18:26.120 --> 00:18:28.140
  • ADDRESS 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA
  • 00:18:28.140 --> 00:18:30.000
  • ASK THE CHILD TO TRY TO
  • 00:18:30.000 --> 00:18:31.120
  • WRITE YOU BACK, IF THEY
  • 00:18:31.120 --> 00:18:32.210
  • CAN, TO SAY THANK YOU.
  • 00:18:32.210 --> 00:18:35.020
  • SO NOW YOU BUILD LITTLE
  • 00:18:35.020 --> 00:18:35.210
  • BRIDGES OF CONTACT AROUND
  • 00:18:35.210 --> 00:18:36.100
  • THE WORLD.
  • 00:18:36.100 --> 00:18:38.020
  • AND THEN, PRAY, PRAY FOR
  • 00:18:38.020 --> 00:18:38.200
  • THE CHILD WHO'S GONNA GET
  • 00:18:38.200 --> 00:18:39.090
  • THAT BOX.
  • 00:18:39.090 --> 00:18:39.230
  • THIS YEAR, WE'LL COLLECT
  • 00:18:39.230 --> 00:18:40.110
  • ABOUT 11 MILLION BOXES,
  • 00:18:40.110 --> 00:18:41.140
  • AND THESE 11 MILLION BOXES
  • 00:18:41.140 --> 00:18:42.280
  • WILL GO TO 120 COUNTRIES,
  • 00:18:42.280 --> 00:18:43.240
  • WHERE THEY'RE
  • 00:18:43.240 --> 00:18:45.210
  • DISTRIBUTED TO CHILDREN.
  • 00:18:45.210 --> 00:18:46.290
  • - ERIC: DID YOU SAY 11
  • 00:18:46.290 --> 00:18:47.170
  • MILLION?
  • 00:18:47.170 --> 00:18:49.040
  • - FRANKLIN: ELEVEN
  • 00:18:49.040 --> 00:18:49.290
  • MILLION.
  • 00:18:49.290 --> 00:18:50.130
  • - ERIC: ELEVEN MILLION
  • 00:18:50.130 --> 00:18:52.020
  • BOXES?
  • 00:18:52.020 --> 00:18:52.160
  • - FRANKLIN: YUP.
  • 00:18:52.160 --> 00:18:53.120
  • - ERIC: THAT IS AMAZING.
  • 00:18:53.120 --> 00:18:54.040
  • NOW, I NEGLECTED TO
  • 00:18:54.040 --> 00:18:55.130
  • MENTION--
  • 00:18:55.130 --> 00:18:56.130
  • - FRANKLIN: AND WE COUNT 'EM.
  • 00:18:56.130 --> 00:18:57.040
  • THEY'RE ALL COUNTED.
  • 00:18:57.040 --> 00:18:57.270
  • - ERIC: YOU'RE THE
  • 00:18:57.270 --> 00:18:58.130
  • PRESIDENT AND CEO OF
  • 00:18:58.130 --> 00:18:59.250
  • SAMARITAN'S PURSE.
  • 00:18:59.250 --> 00:19:01.270
  • THIS IS THIS ORGANIZATION
  • 00:19:01.270 --> 00:19:02.160
  • THAT'S ABSOLUTELY
  • 00:19:02.160 --> 00:19:03.260
  • EXTRAORDINARY.
  • 00:19:04.000 --> 00:19:07.000
  • DID THIS COME OUT OF
  • 00:19:07.000 --> 00:19:08.050
  • SAMARITAN'S PURSE, OR IS
  • 00:19:08.050 --> 00:19:09.140
  • THIS--
  • 00:19:09.140 --> 00:19:10.090
  • - FRANKLIN: IT CAME OUT OF
  • 00:19:10.090 --> 00:19:10.290
  • SAMARITAN'S PURSE.
  • 00:19:10.290 --> 00:19:11.270
  • IT'S OUR CHRISTMAS PROGRAM
  • 00:19:11.270 --> 00:19:12.210
  • OF SAMARITAN'S PURSE.
  • 00:19:12.210 --> 00:19:13.120
  • - ERIC: AND IT'S CALLED
  • 00:19:13.120 --> 00:19:14.000
  • OPERATION CHRISTMAS CHILD.
  • 00:19:14.000 --> 00:19:15.180
  • SO HOW MANY YEARS HAVE YOU
  • 00:19:15.180 --> 00:19:16.110
  • BEEN DOING THIS?
  • 00:19:16.110 --> 00:19:17.200
  • - FRANKLIN: ABOUT 26 YEARS.
  • 00:19:17.200 --> 00:19:18.100
  • - ERIC: WOW.
  • 00:19:18.100 --> 00:19:19.070
  • - FRANKLIN: AND WITH THE
  • 00:19:19.070 --> 00:19:21.000
  • FIRST YEAR, IT WAS 11.000
  • 00:19:21.000 --> 00:19:22.040
  • BOXES, AND IT'S GROWN FROM
  • 00:19:22.040 --> 00:19:23.230
  • THAT 11.000, TO THIS YEAR,
  • 00:19:23.230 --> 00:19:24.250
  • TO 11 MILLION.
  • 00:19:24.250 --> 00:19:25.250
  • THE FIRST YEAR, I WAS
  • 00:19:25.250 --> 00:19:28.010
  • TAKIN' THEM TO BOSNIA, TO
  • 00:19:28.010 --> 00:19:29.280
  • A WAR ZONE, AND GIVIN'
  • 00:19:29.280 --> 00:19:31.290
  • THEM TO KIDS IN REFUGEE CAMPS.
  • 00:19:31.290 --> 00:19:33.000
  • - ERIC: OKAY, AND SO IN
  • 00:19:33.000 --> 00:19:33.200
  • THE '90s, WHEN BOSNIA WAS
  • 00:19:33.200 --> 00:19:35.130
  • A WAR ZONE, YOU WENT THERE?
  • 00:19:35.130 --> 00:19:37.160
  • - FRANKLIN: WE WENT THERE,
  • 00:19:37.160 --> 00:19:38.090
  • TOOK 'EM TO-- TOOK THE
  • 00:19:38.090 --> 00:19:38.260
  • SHOE BOXES TO THE KIDS
  • 00:19:38.260 --> 00:19:40.240
  • IN THE REFUGEE CAMPS, AND
  • 00:19:40.240 --> 00:19:41.210
  • IT WAS COLD, AND, YEAH,
  • 00:19:41.210 --> 00:19:42.250
  • BELOW ZERO, AND VERY
  • 00:19:42.250 --> 00:19:44.290
  • DIFFICULT JUST EVEN-- TO
  • 00:19:44.290 --> 00:19:46.240
  • GET THE SHOE BOXES THERE,
  • 00:19:46.240 --> 00:19:48.030
  • SO WE'VE BEEN DOING IT NOW
  • 00:19:49.010 --> 00:19:52.010
  • FOR, I THINK, IT'S 20.
  • 00:19:52.010 --> 00:19:53.040
  • THIS IS THE 26TH YEAR, BUT
  • 00:19:53.040 --> 00:19:54.210
  • IT'S ABOUT TELLIN' THE
  • 00:19:54.210 --> 00:19:55.270
  • CHILDREN OF THE WORLD THAT
  • 00:19:55.270 --> 00:19:56.160
  • THERE'S A GOD THAT LOVES
  • 00:19:56.160 --> 00:19:58.070
  • THEM, WHO SENT HIS SON,
  • 00:19:58.070 --> 00:19:59.180
  • JESUS CHRIST, FROM HEAVEN
  • 00:19:59.180 --> 00:20:01.000
  • TO THIS EARTH, TO TAKE OUR
  • 00:20:01.000 --> 00:20:02.210
  • SINS, THAT JESUS DIED FOR
  • 00:20:02.210 --> 00:20:04.040
  • OUR SINS ON THE CROSS, AND
  • 00:20:04.040 --> 00:20:06.180
  • GOD RAISED HIM TO LIFE.
  • 00:20:06.180 --> 00:20:07.290
  • I WANT THE CHILDREN TO
  • 00:20:08.150 --> 00:20:11.150
  • HAVE THAT HOPE, KNOWING
  • 00:20:11.150 --> 00:20:12.110
  • THAT THEY TOO, THEY INVITE
  • 00:20:12.110 --> 00:20:13.120
  • JESUS CHRIST INTO THEIR
  • 00:20:13.120 --> 00:20:14.150
  • HEARTS, INTO THEIR LIVES,
  • 00:20:14.150 --> 00:20:15.130
  • THAT WE WILL BE WITH GOD
  • 00:20:15.130 --> 00:20:17.120
  • FOREVER AND EVER IN
  • 00:20:17.120 --> 00:20:18.060
  • HEAVEN, AND I WANT THESE
  • 00:20:18.060 --> 00:20:19.110
  • KIDS TO KNOW IT, AND SO WE
  • 00:20:19.110 --> 00:20:20.240
  • TAKE THESE BOXES TO THE
  • 00:20:20.240 --> 00:20:22.250
  • CHILDREN OF THE WORLD.
  • 00:20:22.250 --> 00:20:23.170
  • WE HAVE FAMILIES,
  • 00:20:23.170 --> 00:20:24.210
  • 11 MILLION PEOPLE, PRAY FOR
  • 00:20:24.210 --> 00:20:25.280
  • THESE-- WE KNOW GOD HEARS
  • 00:20:25.280 --> 00:20:28.030
  • THE PRAYER OF ONE
  • 00:20:28.030 --> 00:20:29.000
  • RIGHTEOUS PERSON.
  • 00:20:29.000 --> 00:20:29.230
  • CAN YOU IMAGINE 11 MILLION
  • 00:20:29.230 --> 00:20:31.060
  • PEOPLE PRAYING FOR
  • 00:20:31.060 --> 00:20:32.120
  • CHILDREN, WHAT GOD
  • 00:20:32.120 --> 00:20:33.050
  • MIGHT DO?
  • 00:20:33.050 --> 00:20:34.160
  • - ERIC: I MEAN, THE SCOPE
  • 00:20:34.160 --> 00:20:35.100
  • OF WHAT YOU DO-- AGAIN,
  • 00:20:35.100 --> 00:20:36.050
  • YOU KNOW, THE NEWS TENDS
  • 00:20:36.050 --> 00:20:37.110
  • NOT TO COVER THIS KIND OF
  • 00:20:37.110 --> 00:20:39.010
  • STUFF, BUT THE SCOPE OF
  • 00:20:39.010 --> 00:20:40.040
  • WHAT SAMARITAN'S PURSE HAS
  • 00:20:40.040 --> 00:20:42.050
  • DONE OVER THE YEARS, MUCH
  • 00:20:42.050 --> 00:20:44.050
  • LESS, YOU KNOW, 11 MILLION
  • 00:20:44.050 --> 00:20:46.010
  • SHOE BOXES THIS YEAR, IT
  • 00:20:46.110 --> 00:20:49.110
  • IS A STAGGERING THING.
  • 00:20:49.110 --> 00:20:50.230
  • SO WHENEVER PEOPLE SAY,
  • 00:20:50.230 --> 00:20:52.010
  • YOU KNOW, "I DON'T KNOW--
  • 00:20:52.010 --> 00:20:52.290
  • WHAT ARE CHRISTIANS DOING
  • 00:20:52.290 --> 00:20:55.080
  • EXCEPT, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH?"
  • 00:20:55.080 --> 00:20:55.270
  • I THINK, "WELL, THEY'RE
  • 00:20:55.270 --> 00:20:56.150
  • DOING THIS," AND YOU'VE
  • 00:20:56.150 --> 00:20:57.120
  • BEEN A HERO.
  • 00:20:57.120 --> 00:20:59.190
  • HOW LONG HAS SAMARITAN'S
  • 00:20:59.190 --> 00:21:02.030
  • PURSE BEEN IN EXISTENCE?
  • 00:21:02.030 --> 00:21:03.000
  • - FRANKLIN: FORTY-NINE
  • 00:21:03.000 --> 00:21:03.230
  • YEARS, THIS YEAR.
  • 00:21:03.230 --> 00:21:04.130
  • - ERIC: HOW LONG?
  • 00:21:04.130 --> 00:21:04.280
  • - FRANKLIN: FORTY-NINE.
  • 00:21:04.280 --> 00:21:05.210
  • - ERIC: FORTY-NINE?
  • 00:21:05.210 --> 00:21:06.080
  • - FRANKLIN: AND I'VE BEEN
  • 00:21:06.080 --> 00:21:07.000
  • THE PRESIDENT OF THE
  • 00:21:07.000 --> 00:21:08.000
  • ORGANIZATION FOR 40.
  • 00:21:08.000 --> 00:21:08.280
  • - ERIC: WOW.
  • 00:21:08.280 --> 00:21:10.110
  • - FRANKLIN: BUT IT'S NOT
  • 00:21:10.110 --> 00:21:12.100
  • WE'VE GOT OVER 1.500 ON
  • 00:21:15.100 --> 00:21:15.280
  • STAFF, INCREDIBLE STAFF OF
  • 00:21:15.280 --> 00:21:18.130
  • MEN AND WOMEN AROUND
  • 00:21:18.130 --> 00:21:19.190
  • THE WORLD.
  • 00:21:19.190 --> 00:21:20.250
  • WE HAVE OVER 200.000
  • 00:21:23.220 --> 00:21:24.100
  • VOLUNTEERS THAT WORK WITH
  • 00:21:24.100 --> 00:21:26.130
  • US IN SOME CAPACITY
  • 00:21:26.130 --> 00:21:27.250
  • THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
  • 00:21:27.250 --> 00:21:28.220
  • THEY COME AND VOLUNTEER
  • 00:21:28.220 --> 00:21:30.060
  • THEIR TIME, AND WE WOULD
  • 00:21:30.060 --> 00:21:31.120
  • NOT BE ABLE TO DO IT-- WE
  • 00:21:31.120 --> 00:21:34.100
  • WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO KEEP
  • 00:21:34.100 --> 00:21:36.040
  • OUR EXPENSES DOWN THE WAY
  • 00:21:36.040 --> 00:21:37.080
  • WE DO IF IT WASN'T FOR THE
  • 00:21:37.080 --> 00:21:38.040
  • VOLUNTEERS WHO COME IN,
  • 00:21:38.040 --> 00:21:40.140
  • NOT ONLY TO HELP WITH
  • 00:21:40.140 --> 00:21:41.010
  • "OPERATION CHRISTMAS CHILD,"
  • 00:21:41.010 --> 00:21:42.120
  • BUT WHENEVER THERE'S A
  • 00:21:42.120 --> 00:21:44.190
  • DISASTER ANYWHERE IN
  • 00:21:44.190 --> 00:21:45.050
  • THE WORLD, WE HAVE AN
  • 00:21:45.050 --> 00:21:46.040
  • ARMY OF MEN AND WOMEN
  • 00:21:46.040 --> 00:21:47.000
  • WHO COME AND ARE
  • 00:21:47.000 --> 00:21:48.090
  • WILLING TO BE HANDS-ON IN
  • 00:21:48.090 --> 00:21:48.280
  • THAT CRISIS.
  • 00:21:52.010 --> 00:21:55.010
  • - ERIC: ABSOLUTELY
  • 00:21:55.010 --> 00:21:56.120
  • SPECTACULAR WHAT YOU ALL DO.
  • 00:21:56.120 --> 00:21:57.020
  • AND, OF COURSE, FRANKLIN,
  • 00:21:57.020 --> 00:21:58.070
  • YOU ARE THE PRESENT CEO OF
  • 00:21:58.070 --> 00:21:58.260
  • BILLY GRAHAM EVANGELISTIC
  • 00:21:58.260 --> 00:21:59.190
  • ASSOCIATION, PROCLAIMING
  • 00:21:59.190 --> 00:22:00.230
  • THE GOOD NEWS OF JESUS
  • 00:22:00.230 --> 00:22:02.030
  • CHRIST AROUND THE WORLD.
  • 00:22:02.030 --> 00:22:03.150
  • MOST PEOPLE THINK OF YOU
  • 00:22:03.150 --> 00:22:04.280
  • IN THAT CAPACITY BECAUSE
  • 00:22:04.280 --> 00:22:05.270
  • YOUR FATHER WAS AN EVANGELIST.
  • 00:22:05.270 --> 00:22:08.000
  • YOU ARE ALSO PRINCIPALLY
  • 00:22:08.000 --> 00:22:08.190
  • AN EVANGELIST.
  • 00:22:08.190 --> 00:22:10.050
  • YOU DO CRUSADES.
  • 00:22:10.050 --> 00:22:12.040
  • I MEAN, HOW MUCH OF THAT
  • 00:22:12.040 --> 00:22:13.290
  • DO YOU DO IN A GIVEN YEAR?
  • 00:22:13.290 --> 00:22:14.220
  • YOU SEEM TO TRAVEL A LOT.
  • 00:22:14.220 --> 00:22:16.030
  • - FRANKLIN: WELL, WE
  • 00:22:16.030 --> 00:22:16.260
  • DO A LOT.
  • 00:22:16.260 --> 00:22:17.170
  • I DID TEN CITIES IN THE
  • 00:22:17.170 --> 00:22:19.240
  • NORTHEAST EARLY IN
  • 00:22:19.240 --> 00:22:20.100
  • THE YEAR.
  • 00:22:20.100 --> 00:22:21.260
  • I JUST FINISHED DOING
  • 00:22:21.260 --> 00:22:22.290
  • EIGHT CITIES IN
  • 00:22:22.290 --> 00:22:23.140
  • NORTH CAROLINA.
  • 00:22:23.140 --> 00:22:24.100
  • I'LL BE DOING, I THINK,
  • 00:22:24.100 --> 00:22:26.050
  • IT'S TEN CITIES IN FLORIDA
  • 00:22:26.050 --> 00:22:27.060
  • IN JANUARY.
  • 00:22:27.060 --> 00:22:28.240
  • I'M GOING TO-- OVERSEAS,
  • 00:22:29.210 --> 00:22:32.210
  • AND IT'S-- THAT'S COMIN'
  • 00:22:32.210 --> 00:22:34.230
  • UP IN A FEW WEEKS, SO WE
  • 00:22:34.230 --> 00:22:36.230
  • KEEP A VERY BUSY SCHEDULE,
  • 00:22:36.230 --> 00:22:38.250
  • BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M 68
  • 00:22:38.250 --> 00:22:40.040
  • YEARS OLD.
  • 00:22:40.040 --> 00:22:42.020
  • I FIGURE I'VE GOT A FEW
  • 00:22:42.020 --> 00:22:42.200
  • YEARS LEFT, AND I'VE GOT A
  • 00:22:42.200 --> 00:22:43.240
  • LITTLE BIT OF ENERGY LEFT.
  • 00:22:43.240 --> 00:22:44.180
  • I WANNA JUST SPEND IT
  • 00:22:44.180 --> 00:22:45.070
  • WHILE I CAN.
  • 00:22:45.070 --> 00:22:46.190
  • - ERIC: YEAH, WELL,
  • 00:22:46.190 --> 00:22:47.090
  • THAT'S WHAT THE LORD GAVE
  • 00:22:47.090 --> 00:22:48.030
  • IT TO US FOR, RIGHT?
  • 00:22:48.030 --> 00:22:48.260
  • - FRANKLIN: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:22:48.260 --> 00:22:49.170
  • - ERIC: WHERE DO YOU GO?
  • 00:22:49.170 --> 00:22:50.210
  • WHERE ARE YOU GOING OVERSEAS?
  • 00:22:50.210 --> 00:22:51.260
  • DO YOU KNOW?
  • 00:22:51.260 --> 00:22:52.080
  • - FRANKLIN: CAMBODIA, TO
  • 00:22:52.080 --> 00:22:52.270
  • PHNOM PENH.
  • 00:22:52.270 --> 00:22:53.290
  • - ERIC: WOW.
  • 00:22:53.290 --> 00:22:55.240
  • - FRANKLIN: BEEN WORKIN'
  • 00:22:55.240 --> 00:22:56.130
  • ON THIS FOR SEVERAL YEARS,
  • 00:22:56.130 --> 00:22:57.120
  • AND THIS IS JUST A
  • 00:22:57.120 --> 00:22:59.280
  • COUNTRYWIDE EVANGELISTIC
  • 00:23:00.020 --> 00:23:03.020
  • CRUSADE WITH PERMISSION
  • 00:23:03.020 --> 00:23:04.250
  • FROM THE GOVERNMENT TO
  • 00:23:04.250 --> 00:23:05.130
  • DO THIS.
  • 00:23:05.130 --> 00:23:08.040
  • - ERIC: THAT'S PRETTY
  • 00:23:08.040 --> 00:23:08.210
  • EXTRAORDINARY.
  • 00:23:08.210 --> 00:23:09.040
  • NOW, HOW DO THESE CRUSADES
  • 00:23:09.040 --> 00:23:09.230
  • THAT YOU DO DIFFER IN ANY
  • 00:23:09.230 --> 00:23:10.180
  • APPRECIABLE WAY FROM THE
  • 00:23:11.000 --> 00:23:14.000
  • ONES THAT YOUR FATHER USED
  • 00:23:14.000 --> 00:23:15.140
  • TO DO?
  • 00:23:15.140 --> 00:23:16.250
  • OR IS IT PRETTY MUCH THE
  • 00:23:16.250 --> 00:23:18.070
  • SAME MODEL?
  • 00:23:18.070 --> 00:23:19.060
  • - FRANKLIN: WE'RE OVERSEAS.
  • 00:23:19.060 --> 00:23:20.000
  • WE'D BE VERY SIMILAR,
  • 00:23:20.000 --> 00:23:21.040
  • THE SAME MODEL.
  • 00:23:21.040 --> 00:23:21.240
  • WHAT WE DO HERE IN THIS
  • 00:23:21.240 --> 00:23:22.120
  • COUNTRY, I CALL IT
  • 00:23:22.120 --> 00:23:23.050
  • DECISION AMERICA, WHERE
  • 00:23:23.050 --> 00:23:24.050
  • WE'LL GO IN-- WE DON'T
  • 00:23:24.050 --> 00:23:25.250
  • TAKE UP ANY OFFERINGS, BUT
  • 00:23:25.250 --> 00:23:27.080
  • WE DON'T ASK FOR ANY
  • 00:23:27.080 --> 00:23:28.110
  • MONEY, AND WE GO FROM CITY
  • 00:23:28.110 --> 00:23:30.010
  • TO CITY TO CITY, AND I'LL
  • 00:23:30.010 --> 00:23:31.180
  • TAKE JUST ONE-- BASICALLY
  • 00:23:31.180 --> 00:23:33.220
  • ONE MUSICIAN, CROWDER, OR
  • 00:23:33.220 --> 00:23:36.070
  • SOMEONE LIKE THAT, WITH
  • 00:23:36.070 --> 00:23:38.020
  • ME, AND THEN I'LL GET UP
  • 00:23:38.020 --> 00:23:40.000
  • AND PREACH AND GIVE
  • 00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:40.250
  • AND SO THERE'S NO COST TO
  • 00:23:42.210 --> 00:23:43.100
  • THE CHURCH, NO COST TO
  • 00:23:43.100 --> 00:23:43.270
  • THE COMMUNITY.
  • 00:23:43.270 --> 00:23:45.010
  • WE PAY THOSE EXPENSES, BUT
  • 00:23:45.010 --> 00:23:45.200
  • I TELL CHRISTIANS, "DON'T
  • 00:23:52.050 --> 00:23:52.240
  • SIT HOME, BUT VOTE.
  • 00:23:52.240 --> 00:23:53.220
  • I'M NOT TELLING YOU WHO TO
  • 00:23:53.220 --> 00:23:54.230
  • VOTE FOR.
  • 00:23:54.230 --> 00:23:55.090
  • LET THE HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD
  • 00:23:55.090 --> 00:23:56.250
  • TELL YOU TO DO THAT, BUT
  • 00:23:56.250 --> 00:23:58.060
  • DON'T JUST SAY, 'WELL, MY
  • 00:23:58.060 --> 00:23:58.290
  • VOTE DOESN'T MATTER.'
  • 00:23:58.290 --> 00:23:59.270
  • IT DOES MATTER, AND MANY
  • 00:23:59.270 --> 00:24:02.190
  • ELECTIONS ARE DECIDED NOT
  • 00:24:02.190 --> 00:24:03.160
  • BY MILLIONS OF VOTES, BUT
  • 00:24:03.160 --> 00:24:04.270
  • IT COMES DOWN SOMETIMES
  • 00:24:04.270 --> 00:24:06.010
  • JUST TO A FEW THOUSAND."
  • 00:24:06.010 --> 00:24:07.100
  • - ERIC: FORGIVE ME, WE'RE
  • 00:24:07.100 --> 00:24:08.040
  • OUT OF TIME, BUT, FOLKS,
  • 00:24:08.040 --> 00:24:10.080
  • SAMARITANSPURSE.ORG, AND
  • 00:24:11.270 --> 00:24:13.080
  • CLICK ON OPERATION
  • 00:24:13.080 --> 00:24:15.090
  • CHRISTMAS CHILD.
  • 00:24:15.090 --> 00:24:15.250
  • FRANKLIN GRAHAM, I PRAISE
  • 00:24:18.010 --> 00:24:18.200
  • GOD FOR YOU, AND I'M
  • 00:24:18.200 --> 00:24:19.250
  • GRATEFUL FOR YOUR TIME.
  • 00:24:19.250 --> 00:24:21.120
  • THANK YOU SO MUCH.
  • 00:24:21.120 --> 00:24:22.020
  • - CLIFTON DAVIS: BUT MY
  • 00:24:34.040 --> 00:24:35.060
  • LINE WAS, "MISS BRYCE,
  • 00:24:35.060 --> 00:24:36.040
  • - ERIC: "YOUR CAB IS HERE."
  • 00:24:38.170 --> 00:24:39.120
  • - CLIFTON: YEAH.
  • 00:24:39.120 --> 00:24:39.270
  • [MUSIC]
  • 00:24:39.270 --> 00:24:41.190
  • - CLIFTON: JUST WHEN THEY
  • 00:24:41.190 --> 00:24:42.260
  • THINK IT'S OVER,
  • 00:24:42.260 --> 00:24:44.160
  • IT'S NOT OVER UNTIL GOD
  • 00:24:44.160 --> 00:24:46.050
  • SAYS IT'S OVER, AND IF YOU
  • 00:24:46.050 --> 00:24:47.100
  • ACCEPT HIS PLAN, LIFE
  • 00:24:47.100 --> 00:24:49.030