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Dr. Mark Rutland | Mental and Spiritual Health

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October 11, 2019
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  • DO YOU HAVE THE COURAGE TO BE HEALED?
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  • - SO SHE'S AFRAID TO BE OUTSIDE
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  • AND IN PUBLIC AND IN A CROWD.
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  • SO WE WENT FOR A LONG TIME, ME TRYING TO CONVINCE HER
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  • THAT NOTHING BAD WOULD HAPPEN TO HER IN THE SHOPPING MALL.
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  • WE COULDN'T GET ANYWHERE.
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  • SO I DECIDED TO REVERSE IT
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  • AND I BEGAN TELLING HER ALL THE THINGS,
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  • BAD THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN TO HER IN HER HOUSE.
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  • James: WHAT A WAY TO GO, MARK!
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  • MARK RUTLAND EXPLAINS
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  • HOW FAITH IS NOT THE ONLY VARIABLE NEEDED FOR HEALING. NEXT!
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  • James: THANK ALL OF YOU.
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  • BETTY, WE HAVE ONE OF
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  • OUR VERY GOOD FRIENDS BACK,
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  • DR. MARK RUTLAND.
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  • A CONFERENCE IN ORLANDO
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  • AND INVITED A GUY
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  • TO COME AND PREACH.
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  • I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER
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  • WHO RECOMMENDED
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  • THAT I INVITE MARK.
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  • I DON'T HAVE A CLUE.
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  • HONESTLY, I DON'T!
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  • Betty: GOD!
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  • James: YEAH!
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  • HE LIMPS UP TO THE PULPIT
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  • BECAUSE HE'S HURT HIS LEG
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  • REAL BAD.
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  • I DON'T REALLY KNOW THIS GUY.
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  • WHO TALKED ME
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  • INTO INVITING THIS GUY
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  • WHO CAN'T EVEN HARDLY WALK?
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  • AND I'M TELLING YOU,
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  • HE HIT IT SO FAR
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  • OUT OF THE PARK THERE IS
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  • NO WAY TO DESCRIBE IT;
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  • I'M TELLING YOU.
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  • AND HE CAN REALLY PREACH.
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  • THEN WE GOT TO BE FRIENDS.
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  • AND HE ACTUALLY BECAME,
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  • I PREACHED AT
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  • DIFFERENT CHURCHES HE WAS IN
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  • BUT HE WENT TO SOUTHEASTERN,
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  • I GUESS IT'S
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  • AN ASSEMBLY OF GOD SCHOOL
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  • IN FLORIDA AND I GO THERE
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  • AND PREACH FOR A WEEK
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  • AND ALL THE ASSEMBLIES
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  • BECAME BAPTISTS; IT WAS
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  • AN AMAZING TRANSFORMATION.
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  • THE AMAZING THING WAS THERE'S
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  • THIS BAPTIST PREACHING DOWN
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  • IN THIS PENTECOSTAL SCHOOL
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  • AND GOD JUST SHOWED UP.
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  • IT WAS AMAZING
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  • HOW CLOSE WE GOT.
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  • YOU ENDED UP BEING
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  • AT ORAL ROBERTS.
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  • BY THE WAY,
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  • I'M JUST TALKING TO HIM
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  • LIKE I'VE INTRODUCED HIM.
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  • THIS IS THE INTRODUCTION
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  • IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.
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  • I HAVE WATCHED MARK
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  • ON THIS JOURNEY THAT'S
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  • BEEN INCREDIBLE TO WATCH.
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  • YOU ARE GIFTED
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  • IN SO MANY WAYS.
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  • I'M GLAD YOU'RE WITH
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  • JENTEZEN FRANKLIN THERE
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  • IN GAINESVILLE, GEORGIA.
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  • I THINK JENTEZEN
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  • IS ONE OF THE MOST ANOINTED,
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  • I CALL HIM "A YOUNG LEADER."
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  • EVERYBODY IS YOUNG TO ME.
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  • YOU'RE YOUNG AND YOU'RE ONLY
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  • THREE YEARS YOUNGER THAN ME
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  • BUT YOU'RE YOUNG TO ME.
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  • Mark: VERY YOUNG!
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  • James: THAT'S IT.
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  • BUT HERE'S THE DEAL.
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  • YOU'VE BEEN REALLY GIFTED
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  • BY GOD.
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  • I'M GLAD THAT YOU
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  • REALLY BLESSED ORU,
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  • YOU'VE BLESSED
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  • EVERY PLACE YOU'VE BEEN.
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  • YOU'RE BEING A BLESSING
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  • THERE WHERE JENTEZEN IS.
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  • BY THE WAY,
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  • JENTEZEN, LOVE YOU,
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  • AND ALL THE FAMILY
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  • AND YOUR WHOLE CHURCH FAMILY.
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  • THIS BOOK,
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  • COURAGE TO BE HEALED .
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  • YOU KNOW WHEN
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  • YOU'VE BEEN PRESIDENT OF
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  • ORAL ROBERTS UNIVERSITY,
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  • WE DRAW
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  • A PRETTY QUICK ASSUMPTION;
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  • LIKE A WHOLE LOT OF HEALING
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  • NEEDS TO BE TAKING PLACE.
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  • AND YET, I REALLY KNOW
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  • THE DEPTH OF WHAT'S HERE
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  • IS SO MUCH BIGGER THAN WHAT
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  • PEOPLE MIGHT JUST THINK
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  • WHEN THEY SEE THAT WORD.
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  • I WANT YOU TO REALLY
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  • CUT TO THE CHASE
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  • BECAUSE I THINK GOD
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  • HAS GIVEN YOU SOMETHING.
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  • I DON'T EVER KNOW OF ANYTHING
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  • I'VE EVER HEARD YOU DO THAT
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  • I DIDN'T THINK GOD GAVE YOU
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  • THAT WAS SPECIAL.
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  • I THINK YOU'RE PRETTY EXCITED
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  • Mark: I AM, JAMES.
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  • THANK YOU!
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  • IT'S WONDERFUL TO BE BACK
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  • WE HAVE REALLY TRAVELED
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  • SOME CONTINENTS TOGETHER,
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  • ASIA, CHINA, THAILAND.
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  • WE'VE BEEN ALL OVER THE WORLD.
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  • James: AND WE'RE DOING
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  • RESCUING LIFE RIGHT NOW.
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  • YOU PROBABLY
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  • WERE THE FIRST PERSON,
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  • WE WENT WITH YOU TO THAILAND
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  • AND YOU SHOWED US
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  • WHERE THE PREDATORS GO
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  • AND GET THESE LITTLE CHILDREN.
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  • WE COULD NOT BELIEVE IT.
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  • AND THEN WE SAW
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  • WHAT YOU WERE DOING
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  • AT HOUSE OF GRACE.
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  • AND WE SAW THESE BEAUTIFUL,
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  • RADIANT PEOPLE THAT YOU
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  • HAD DEPOSITED JESUS IN.
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  • YOU INSPIRED US
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  • TO START PUTTING ARMS...
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  • SO THANK YOU FOR SHOWING US
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  • WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY
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  • EVEN ENCOURAGING PEOPLE
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  • TO SUPPORT RIGHT NOW.
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  • WOULD YOU TELL OUR VIEWERS,
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  • IS IT EFFECTIVE TO RESCUE
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  • THESE TRAFFICKED ONES
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  • AND GET THEM ON A NEW PATH?
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  • AND IS IT A MIRACULOUS THING
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  • TO SEE?
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  • Mark: WELL, IT IS EFFECTIVE.
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  • IF IT DIDN'T WORK,
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  • WE WOULDN'T KEEP DOING IT.
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  • AND IT IS EFFECTIVE.
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  • IT IS MIRACULOUS.
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  • THE DAMAGE THAT'S DONE,
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  • IN FACT, IT TIES TO THIS BOOK,
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  • THE DAMAGE THAT'S BEEN DONE
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  • IN PEOPLE'S LIVES
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  • THROUGH THE PREDATORY ACTIONS
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  • OF OTHERS
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  • IS HIGHLY DESTRUCTIVE.
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  • AND IT IS MIRACULOUS
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  • FOR THEM TO BE HEALED.
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  • AND IT IS, BEYOND ALL THAT,
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  • IT IS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY!
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  • IT'S ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY!
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  • James: AND GRACE WORKS!
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  • AND WHEN YOU SUPPORT THAT,
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  • CALLED IT THE HOUSE OF GRACE,
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  • WE CALL IT
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  • THE HOUSE OF DESTINY,
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  • IT IS A BEAUTIFUL THING.
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  • TELL US WHY GOD PUT THIS,
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  • I BELIEVE SO FIRMLY
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  • ON YOUR HEART.
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  • Mark: YEAH,
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  • I WAITED 15 YEARS
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  • TO WRITE THIS BOOK.
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  • I JUST KEPT COMPILING
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  • RESEARCH AND DEALING WITH IT
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  • AND WORKING WITH IT.
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  • AND WROTE FOUR OTHER BOOKS
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  • IN THE MEANTIME,
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  • I JUST KEPT HAVING THESE
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  • NOTES PILE UP ON MY DESK.
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  • AND FINALLY,
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  • IT BECAME INESCAPABLE,
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  • I COULDN'T GET AWAY FROM IT.
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  • THE HEALING THAT
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  • I'M TALKING ABOUT HERE,
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  • EVERYBODY, WHEN YOU SAY
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  • THE WORD HEALING , OBVIOUSLY
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  • THERE IS PHYSICAL HEALING.
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  • I BELIEVE IN IT.
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  • I PRAY FOR IT.
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  • AND IT IS A MIRACLE
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  • WHEN PEOPLE RECEIVE IT.
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  • BUT WHAT I'M DEALING WITH
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  • IN THIS BOOK IS INNER HEALING,
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  • HEALING OF DAMAGED EMOTIONS.
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  • I BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE
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  • MANY PEOPLE, CHRISTIANS,
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  • SOMETHING HAUNTS THEM,
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  • NAGS AT THEM,
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  • CHEWS AT THEM INSIDE
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  • AND THEY BECOME TOXIC PEOPLE.
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  • I'M NOT SAYING
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  • THEY'RE NOT CHRISTIANS.
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  • THEY'RE BORN AGAIN.
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  • IF THEY WERE TO DIE RIGHT NOW
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  • THEY WOULD GO TO HEAVEN
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  • BUT THE SOONER THE BETTER.
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  • THEY'RE JUST SO...
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  • James: THAT'S THEIR
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  • POINT OF VIEW, ACTUALLY;
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  • I WANT OUT OF HERE.
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  • Mark: THEY'RE JUST
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  • SO ANGRY AND HURTFUL.
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  • THEIR CHURCHES ARE MESSED UP.
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  • THEIR FAMILIES ARE MESSED UP.
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  • AND I JUST BEGAN TO SAY,
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  • WHAT IS THE VARIABLE?
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  • FAITH IS A VARIABLE
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  • IN ALL HEALING --
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  • I KNOW THAT.
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  • BUT I'M CONVINCED
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  • THAT WITH INNER HEALING,
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  • WITH THE HEALING
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  • OF EMOTIONAL DAMAGE,
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  • THE GREATER VARIABLE
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  • IS NOT FAITH, IT IS COURAGE
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  • BECAUSE IT TAKES
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  • TREMENDOUS COURAGE
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  • TO LOOK IN THAT MIRROR
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  • AND SEE THIS IS ME.
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  • THIS IS WHAT
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  • I HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT.
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  • THAT'S WHY I WROTE THE BOOK.
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  • TO BE DEALT WITH BY SOME
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  • SUPERNATURAL HEALING FORCE
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  • TO THE POINT THAT A LOT
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  • OF PEOPLE DESPAIR OF LIFE.
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  • THEY ACTUALLY
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  • DON'T WANT TO LIVE
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  • AND A LOT OF THEM
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  • ARE NOT ONLY CHRISTIANS,
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  • THEY'RE CHURCH LEADERS.
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  • SUICIDE RATE
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  • IS VERY HIGH AMONG PASTORS.
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  • AND YOU'RE SAYING THAT
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  • IT'S IN THE MILITARY BASES
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  • RIGHT NOW
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  • IN ASTOUNDING NUMBERS,
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  • AND IT ISN'T JUST NECESSARILY
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  • THE ONES THAT COME BACK
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  • FROM THE BATTLE,
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  • IT IS THOSE
  • 00:06:26.180 --> 00:06:27.260
  • WHO ARE JUST ON THE BASE.
  • 00:06:27.260 --> 00:06:29.010
  • GIVE US ONE
  • 00:06:29.010 --> 00:06:30.100
  • OF THE RECENT ILLUSTRATIONS.
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  • Mark: ONE AIR BASE
  • 00:06:31.140 --> 00:06:32.210
  • THEY RECENTLY HAD
  • 00:06:33.270 --> 00:06:35.040
  • TO SHUT DOWN OPERATIONS.
  • 00:06:35.040 --> 00:06:36.110
  • THEY'RE NOT TAKING OFF
  • 00:06:36.110 --> 00:06:37.200
  • ANY MORE PLANES RIGHT NOW --
  • 00:06:37.200 --> 00:06:38.240
  • I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT
  • 00:06:40.070 --> 00:06:41.120
  • SOME CIVIL AIR PATROL.
  • 00:06:41.120 --> 00:06:42.250
  • THEY HAD TO SHUT DOWN
  • 00:06:42.250 --> 00:06:44.080
  • OPERATIONS BECAUSE OF
  • 00:06:44.080 --> 00:06:45.160
  • THE PERCENTAGE OF SUICIDES
  • 00:06:45.250 --> 00:06:48.250
  • AMONG THE AIRMEN HAS
  • 00:06:48.250 --> 00:06:50.030
  • ESCALATED TO A LEVEL WHERE --
  • 00:06:50.030 --> 00:06:51.160
  • IT IS A LEVEL OF DANGER AND
  • 00:06:51.160 --> 00:06:54.110
  • THEY'VE HAD TO SHUT IT DOWN.
  • 00:06:54.110 --> 00:06:55.250
  • IT IS THE SAME EVERYWHERE.
  • 00:06:55.250 --> 00:06:57.130
  • IT IS NOT JUST SUICIDE EITHER.
  • 00:06:57.130 --> 00:06:58.230
  • IT IS NOT JUST THE PEOPLE
  • 00:06:58.230 --> 00:07:00.050
  • WHO THEMSELVES
  • 00:07:00.050 --> 00:07:01.170
  • DESPAIR OF LIFE,
  • 00:07:01.170 --> 00:07:02.240
  • IT'S THE PEOPLE AROUND THEM
  • 00:07:02.240 --> 00:07:04.240
  • WHO ARE JUST BURNED
  • 00:07:04.240 --> 00:07:06.130
  • ALL THE TIME
  • 00:07:06.130 --> 00:07:07.190
  • WITH THE TOXICITY,
  • 00:07:07.190 --> 00:07:08.240
  • THE ANGER, THE BITTERNESS,
  • 00:07:08.240 --> 00:07:10.040
  • THE RESENTMENT.
  • 00:07:10.040 --> 00:07:11.090
  • IT JUST FLOWS OUT OF THEM
  • 00:07:11.090 --> 00:07:12.220
  • UNTIL EVERYBODY AROUND THEM
  • 00:07:12.220 --> 00:07:14.010
  • GETS BURNED UP.
  • 00:07:14.010 --> 00:07:15.110
  • James: DO YOU HAVE
  • 00:07:15.110 --> 00:07:16.170
  • AN EXPLANATION
  • 00:07:16.170 --> 00:07:17.250
  • FOR WHY THE INTENSITY
  • 00:07:17.250 --> 00:07:19.040
  • OR THE INCREASING AMOUNT
  • 00:07:19.040 --> 00:07:20.120
  • OF THAT PREDICAMENT?
  • 00:07:20.120 --> 00:07:22.150
  • Mark: I THINK A PART OF IT IS
  • 00:07:22.150 --> 00:07:25.030
  • THE DETERMINATION
  • 00:07:25.030 --> 00:07:26.270
  • TO COVER IT OVER,
  • 00:07:26.270 --> 00:07:28.030
  • TO PLASTER OVER THE CRACKS
  • 00:07:28.030 --> 00:07:29.240
  • WITH AN OUTWARD APPEARANCE
  • 00:07:29.240 --> 00:07:31.160
  • OF SUCCESS.
  • 00:07:31.160 --> 00:07:33.030
  • SO IT MAKES US
  • 00:07:33.030 --> 00:07:34.100
  • MORE AND MORE DRIVEN,
  • 00:07:34.100 --> 00:07:35.190
  • MORE AND MORE COMPELLED,
  • 00:07:35.190 --> 00:07:37.060
  • CONSTANTLY TRYING.
  • 00:07:37.060 --> 00:07:39.040
  • I PUT IT LIKE THIS,
  • 00:07:39.040 --> 00:07:40.220
  • IF YOU MAKE YOUR LIFE
  • 00:07:40.220 --> 00:07:42.060
  • LIKE A BALLOON,
  • 00:07:42.060 --> 00:07:43.140
  • YOU JUST KEEP INCREASING
  • 00:07:43.140 --> 00:07:44.240
  • THE SURFACE AREA
  • 00:07:44.240 --> 00:07:46.020
  • SO THAT ALL OF THAT
  • 00:07:46.020 --> 00:07:47.100
  • THAT YOU DO, ACCOMPLISH,
  • 00:07:47.100 --> 00:07:49.010
  • LEARN, EARN,
  • 00:07:49.010 --> 00:07:50.130
  • IS ALL ON THE SURFACE.
  • 00:07:50.130 --> 00:07:51.270
  • YOU'RE INCREASING
  • 00:07:51.270 --> 00:07:53.110
  • THE SURFACE AREA BUT INSIDE,
  • 00:07:53.110 --> 00:07:54.200
  • THIS EMPTINESS IS THERE
  • 00:07:54.200 --> 00:07:57.050
  • AND THE EXPLOSION
  • 00:07:57.050 --> 00:07:58.150
  • IS GOING TO COME.
  • 00:07:58.150 --> 00:07:59.270
  • IF ONE CAN GET
  • 00:07:59.270 --> 00:08:02.010
  • COURAGEOUS ENOUGH TO SAY
  • 00:08:02.010 --> 00:08:04.040
  • I HAVE TO HAVE HELP --
  • 00:08:04.040 --> 00:08:06.080
  • I HAVE TO HAVE HELP.
  • 00:08:06.080 --> 00:08:07.230
  • THE WHOLE POINT OF THE BOOK
  • 00:08:07.230 --> 00:08:09.000
  • IS BASED ON THE MAN LOWERED
  • 00:08:09.000 --> 00:08:10.170
  • THROUGH THE ROOFTOP.
  • 00:08:10.170 --> 00:08:11.280
  • James: ISN'T THAT WHAT'S
  • 00:08:11.280 --> 00:08:13.080
  • ILLUSTRATED RIGHT HERE?
  • 00:08:13.080 --> 00:08:14.140
  • Mark: THAT'S
  • 00:08:14.140 --> 00:08:15.220
  • WHAT'S ON THE COVER.
  • 00:08:15.220 --> 00:08:16.290
  • James: IF YOU COULD
  • 00:08:16.290 --> 00:08:18.030
  • REALLY SEE THIS,
  • 00:08:18.030 --> 00:08:19.110
  • I'M LOOKING AT IT GRAPHICALLY
  • 00:08:19.110 --> 00:08:20.170
  • AND MY MIND RACES
  • 00:08:20.170 --> 00:08:21.270
  • THROUGH THE SCRIPTURE
  • 00:08:21.270 --> 00:08:23.070
  • OF THEM LOWERING THIS CRIPPLE
  • 00:08:23.070 --> 00:08:24.200
  • DOWN THROUGH THE ROOF
  • 00:08:24.200 --> 00:08:26.020
  • TO GET CLOSE TO JESUS.
  • 00:08:26.020 --> 00:08:27.130
  • AND I REALLY WISH
  • 00:08:27.130 --> 00:08:28.250
  • YOU COULD GRAB THAT
  • 00:08:28.250 --> 00:08:30.060
  • WHEREVER YOU ARE
  • 00:08:30.060 --> 00:08:31.140
  • WITH THAT EXPANDING PAIN
  • 00:08:31.140 --> 00:08:32.220
  • OR WHATEVER IT IS,
  • 00:08:32.220 --> 00:08:34.030
  • THIS EXPLOSIVE
  • 00:08:34.030 --> 00:08:35.120
  • OR THIS DEPRESSION
  • 00:08:35.120 --> 00:08:36.210
  • OR JUST WANT TO HIDE.
  • 00:08:36.210 --> 00:08:38.040
  • THIS IS HAPPENING TO PASTORS,
  • 00:08:38.040 --> 00:08:39.130
  • TO PREACHERS, TO LEADERS.
  • 00:08:39.130 --> 00:08:41.000
  • I WAS SO DEFEATED
  • 00:08:41.000 --> 00:08:42.140
  • WHEN I WAS AT
  • 00:08:42.140 --> 00:08:44.000
  • THAT I DESPAIRED OF LIFE
  • 00:08:45.120 --> 00:08:46.230
  • AND I ACTUALLY SAID,
  • 00:08:46.230 --> 00:08:48.050
  • "BETTY, WHY DON'T YOU
  • 00:08:48.050 --> 00:08:49.160
  • JUST PRAY I DIE IN MY SLEEP."
  • 00:08:49.160 --> 00:08:50.250
  • SO THIS IS WHAT'S BUILDING.
  • 00:08:52.040 --> 00:08:53.070
  • SO I'M AN EXAMPLE
  • 00:08:53.070 --> 00:08:54.180
  • OF WHAT IS THERE
  • 00:08:54.180 --> 00:08:56.020
  • AND I WAS IN THE MINISTRY
  • 00:08:56.020 --> 00:08:57.120
  • THAT YOU WOULD CALLED VERY
  • 00:08:57.120 --> 00:08:58.230
  • BLESSED AND VERY SUCCESSFUL.
  • 00:08:58.230 --> 00:09:00.080
  • BUT I WAS BEING TORMENTED.
  • 00:09:00.080 --> 00:09:01.150
  • YOU ALSO!
  • 00:09:01.150 --> 00:09:02.260
  • YOU TRIED TO TAKE
  • 00:09:02.260 --> 00:09:04.060
  • YOUR OWN LIFE WHILE YOU WERE
  • 00:09:04.060 --> 00:09:05.160
  • A MINISTER, THE GUN FAILED.
  • 00:09:05.160 --> 00:09:06.250
  • Mark: I WAS
  • 00:09:06.250 --> 00:09:08.020
  • A METHODIST PREACHER
  • 00:09:08.020 --> 00:09:09.070
  • AND ATTEMPTED SUICIDE.
  • 00:09:09.070 --> 00:09:10.190
  • I JUST BECAME CONVINCED
  • 00:09:10.190 --> 00:09:11.290
  • THAT PEOPLE CAN'T GET FREE
  • 00:09:11.290 --> 00:09:13.090
  • BECAUSE THEY WON'T GET HONEST.
  • 00:09:13.090 --> 00:09:14.240
  • James: AND THIS GUY
  • 00:09:14.240 --> 00:09:16.040
  • HAD TO GET COURAGEOUS ENOUGH
  • 00:09:16.040 --> 00:09:17.100
  • TO SAY, "PUT ME DOWN THERE."
  • 00:09:17.100 --> 00:09:18.200
  • HE MADE A DECISION
  • 00:09:18.200 --> 00:09:20.010
  • IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, RIGHT?
  • 00:09:20.010 --> 00:09:21.100
  • Mark: THINK ABOUT THE RISK.
  • 00:09:21.100 --> 00:09:22.140
  • YOU THINK ABOUT THE RISK.
  • 00:09:22.140 --> 00:09:23.170
  • WHAT IF THEY DROPPED HIM?
  • 00:09:23.170 --> 00:09:24.250
  • WHAT IF JESUS REJECTS HIM?
  • 00:09:24.250 --> 00:09:27.150
  • WE KNOW HOW
  • 00:09:27.150 --> 00:09:28.250
  • LUKE FIVE COMES OUT
  • 00:09:28.250 --> 00:09:30.080
  • BUT HE DIDN'T.
  • 00:09:30.080 --> 00:09:31.170
  • WHAT IF JESUS SAYS,
  • 00:09:31.170 --> 00:09:32.250
  • FURTHERMORE,
  • 00:09:34.070 --> 00:09:37.070
  • THE CHARACTER OF THE AUDIENCE
  • 00:09:37.070 --> 00:09:38.270
  • THAT'S THERE IS DESCRIBED
  • 00:09:38.270 --> 00:09:40.070
  • AS DOCTORS OF THE LAW.
  • 00:09:41.160 --> 00:09:42.280
  • THERE IS A FASCINATING WORD
  • 00:09:42.280 --> 00:09:45.060
  • WHICH I'VE READ THAT PASSAGE
  • 00:09:45.060 --> 00:09:46.130
  • ALL MY LIFE AND I MISSED IT,
  • 00:09:46.130 --> 00:09:48.220
  • I'M EMBARRASSED TO SAY.
  • 00:09:48.220 --> 00:09:50.000
  • IT SAYS,
  • 00:09:50.000 --> 00:09:51.090
  • "AND THE POWER OF GOD
  • 00:09:51.090 --> 00:09:52.150
  • WAS PRESENT TO HEAL THEM."
  • 00:09:53.000 --> 00:09:56.000
  • IT DOESN'T SAY "THE POWER
  • 00:09:56.000 --> 00:09:57.100
  • OF GOD WAS PRESENT TO HEAL."
  • 00:09:57.100 --> 00:09:58.240
  • "THE POWER OF GOD WAS PRESENT
  • 00:09:58.240 --> 00:10:00.050
  • TO HEAL THEM"
  • 00:10:00.050 --> 00:10:01.190
  • BUT NONE OF THEM GOT HEALED
  • 00:10:01.190 --> 00:10:04.140
  • BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE
  • 00:10:04.140 --> 00:10:05.250
  • THE COURAGE TO OVERCOME
  • 00:10:05.250 --> 00:10:07.000
  • THIS LEGALISTIC PREDILECTIONS
  • 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:08.260
  • AND COME INTO THE PRESENCE
  • 00:10:08.260 --> 00:10:10.060
  • OF JESUS FOR HEALING,
  • 00:10:10.060 --> 00:10:11.190
  • THEY WERE JUST THERE TO PROVE
  • 00:10:11.190 --> 00:10:13.020
  • HOW WONDERFUL THEY WERE
  • 00:10:13.020 --> 00:10:14.170
  • AS DOCTORS OF THE LAW.
  • 00:10:14.170 --> 00:10:15.250
  • THIS GUY WAS DETERMINED,
  • 00:10:17.100 --> 00:10:18.170
  • THAT IS THAT COURAGE, BUT
  • 00:10:18.170 --> 00:10:19.280
  • THAT GROUP THAT HELPED HIM
  • 00:10:19.280 --> 00:10:21.060
  • WAS DETERMINED.
  • 00:10:21.060 --> 00:10:22.120
  • THERE'S -- TO ME,
  • 00:10:22.120 --> 00:10:23.180
  • ALL THE PEOPLE PRAYING FOR US,
  • 00:10:25.050 --> 00:10:26.120
  • ALL THE PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT US,
  • 00:10:26.120 --> 00:10:27.210
  • WE'RE DETERMINED
  • 00:10:27.210 --> 00:10:29.020
  • TO TRY TO GET PEOPLE
  • 00:10:29.020 --> 00:10:30.090
  • TO THIS HEALING FORCE.
  • 00:10:30.090 --> 00:10:31.150
  • YOU TALK ABOUT,
  • 00:10:31.150 --> 00:10:32.210
  • YOU CALL IT "FIVE TOXINS"
  • 00:10:32.210 --> 00:10:34.210
  • THAT YOU THINK
  • 00:10:34.210 --> 00:10:35.270
  • NEED TO BE DEALT WITH.
  • 00:10:35.270 --> 00:10:37.120
  • WOULD YOU COVER
  • 00:10:37.120 --> 00:10:38.170
  • SOME OF THOSE?
  • 00:10:38.170 --> 00:10:39.220
  • Mark: SHAME, UNFORGIVENESS,
  • 00:10:39.220 --> 00:10:40.270
  • CONDEMNATION,
  • 00:10:40.270 --> 00:10:42.020
  • REJECTION AND FEAR.
  • 00:10:42.020 --> 00:10:43.070
  • James: SAY THEM AGAIN.
  • 00:10:43.070 --> 00:10:44.120
  • Mark: SHAME, UNFORGIVENESS,
  • 00:10:44.120 --> 00:10:45.170
  • CONDEMNATION,
  • 00:10:45.170 --> 00:10:46.250
  • REJECTION, AND FEAR.
  • 00:10:46.250 --> 00:10:49.000
  • SO I BELIEVE THAT BASICALLY
  • 00:10:49.000 --> 00:10:51.210
  • EVERY TOXIC FLOW IN OUR LIFE
  • 00:10:51.210 --> 00:10:53.130
  • COMES FROM ONE OF THOSE FIVE.
  • 00:10:53.190 --> 00:10:56.190
  • I COUNSELLED WITH A WOMAN
  • 00:10:56.190 --> 00:10:58.270
  • OF THIS WONDERFUL
  • 00:11:01.180 --> 00:11:02.280
  • OLDER BROTHER
  • 00:11:02.280 --> 00:11:04.120
  • WHO WAS JUST WONDERFUL.
  • 00:11:04.120 --> 00:11:05.180
  • HE CARED FOR HER.
  • 00:11:05.180 --> 00:11:06.230
  • SHE JUST KEPT TELLING ME
  • 00:11:08.030 --> 00:11:09.070
  • THAT HE WAS HER HERO
  • 00:11:09.070 --> 00:11:10.130
  • IN HER LIFE.
  • 00:11:10.130 --> 00:11:11.170
  • IT WAS THIS ALMOST
  • 00:11:11.170 --> 00:11:12.200
  • SUPERNATURAL GUY.
  • 00:11:12.200 --> 00:11:13.250
  • I SAID,
  • 00:11:13.250 --> 00:11:15.010
  • "I'D LOVE TO MEET HIM!"
  • 00:11:15.010 --> 00:11:16.050
  • SHE SAID, "WELL,
  • 00:11:16.050 --> 00:11:17.130
  • I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE HE IS.
  • 00:11:17.130 --> 00:11:18.220
  • I HAVEN'T SEEN HIM
  • 00:11:18.220 --> 00:11:20.000
  • IN 25 YEARS."
  • 00:11:20.000 --> 00:11:21.030
  • WELL,
  • 00:11:21.030 --> 00:11:22.110
  • YOU SENSE SOMETHING IS WRONG.
  • 00:11:22.110 --> 00:11:23.150
  • SO I BEGAN TO PRESS IN,
  • 00:11:23.150 --> 00:11:24.150
  • PRESS IN.
  • 00:11:24.150 --> 00:11:25.260
  • FINALLY,
  • 00:11:25.260 --> 00:11:27.000
  • SHE FOUND THE COURAGE,
  • 00:11:27.000 --> 00:11:28.040
  • AND GOD BLESS HER FOR IT,
  • 00:11:28.040 --> 00:11:29.080
  • TO ADMIT
  • 00:11:29.080 --> 00:11:30.140
  • HE WASN'T THAT AT ALL.
  • 00:11:30.140 --> 00:11:31.210
  • WHEN SHE WAS NINE
  • 00:11:31.210 --> 00:11:32.260
  • HE WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL.
  • 00:11:32.260 --> 00:11:34.000
  • THE MOTHER WORKED LATE
  • 00:11:34.000 --> 00:11:35.010
  • AT NIGHT.
  • 00:11:35.010 --> 00:11:36.030
  • HE WOULD BRING
  • 00:11:36.030 --> 00:11:37.070
  • HIS HIGH SCHOOL FRIENDS HOME
  • 00:11:37.070 --> 00:11:38.100
  • AND THEY WOULD PAY HIM FOR
  • 00:11:38.100 --> 00:11:39.120
  • THIS LITTLE NINE-YEAR OLD GIRL
  • 00:11:39.120 --> 00:11:40.150
  • TO PERFORM ORAL SEX ON THEM.
  • 00:11:40.150 --> 00:11:41.220
  • HE PIMPED HER OUT
  • 00:11:41.220 --> 00:11:43.020
  • WHEN SHE WAS NINE YEARS OLD.
  • 00:11:43.020 --> 00:11:45.010
  • BUT THE SHAME OF THAT
  • 00:11:45.010 --> 00:11:46.240
  • WAS SO HORRIBLE TO HER
  • 00:11:46.240 --> 00:11:48.170
  • THAT SHE BURIED IT
  • 00:11:48.170 --> 00:11:50.010
  • AND CREATED
  • 00:11:50.010 --> 00:11:51.080
  • THIS SURFACE NARRATIVE
  • 00:11:51.080 --> 00:11:52.200
  • WHICH NOW LEFT HER,
  • 00:11:52.200 --> 00:11:55.170
  • SHE WAS OBESE,
  • 00:11:55.170 --> 00:11:57.070
  • SHE WAS REJECTED,
  • 00:11:57.070 --> 00:11:58.070
  • SHE WAS IN
  • 00:11:58.070 --> 00:11:59.140
  • HER SECOND MARRIAGE.
  • 00:11:59.140 --> 00:12:00.190
  • HER LIFE WAS
  • 00:12:00.190 --> 00:12:01.280
  • A COMPLETE CATASTROPHE.
  • 00:12:01.280 --> 00:12:03.040
  • BUT THE TURNING POINT
  • 00:12:03.040 --> 00:12:04.170
  • IN HER LIFE CAME
  • 00:12:04.170 --> 00:12:05.260
  • WHEN SHE FOUND
  • 00:12:05.260 --> 00:12:07.010
  • THE COURAGE TO SAY,
  • 00:12:07.010 --> 00:12:08.100
  • "MY BROTHER PIMPED ME OUT."
  • 00:12:08.100 --> 00:12:11.060
  • I'LL JUST SAY IT RIGHT ON TV,
  • 00:12:11.060 --> 00:12:13.160
  • THAT TAKES GUTS --
  • 00:12:13.160 --> 00:12:15.290
  • THAT TAKES GUTS TO DO THAT.
  • 00:12:15.290 --> 00:12:17.270
  • I ADMIRED HER.
  • 00:12:17.270 --> 00:12:19.110
  • SHE SAID, "I GUESS
  • 00:12:19.110 --> 00:12:20.250
  • YOU THINK I'M HORRIBLE."
  • 00:12:20.250 --> 00:12:21.280
  • I SAID, "NO, MA'AM!
  • 00:12:21.280 --> 00:12:23.050
  • I'VE NEVER ADMIRED ANYBODY
  • 00:12:23.050 --> 00:12:24.110
  • MORE IN MY WHOLE LIFE
  • 00:12:24.110 --> 00:12:25.180
  • THAN I ADMIRE YOU
  • 00:12:25.180 --> 00:12:26.250
  • RIGHT THIS MINUTE
  • 00:12:26.250 --> 00:12:28.010
  • BECAUSE YOU HAD THE COURAGE."
  • 00:12:28.010 --> 00:12:29.060
  • SHAME, UNFORGIVENESS,
  • 00:12:29.060 --> 00:12:30.140
  • CONDEMNATION IS A HUGE ONE.
  • 00:12:32.090 --> 00:12:35.020
  • CONDEMNATION RESTS -- THIS
  • 00:12:35.020 --> 00:12:36.250
  • MAY SURPRISE YOU A LITTLE.
  • 00:12:36.250 --> 00:12:38.100
  • CONDEMNATION RESTS
  • 00:12:38.100 --> 00:12:39.180
  • OF IDOLATRY.
  • 00:12:40.240 --> 00:12:42.010
  • IT SEEMS LIKE AN ODD THING.
  • 00:12:42.010 --> 00:12:43.120
  • BUT HERE IT IS.
  • 00:12:43.120 --> 00:12:44.170
  • DO YOU EVER HEAR
  • 00:12:44.170 --> 00:12:45.230
  • PEOPLE SAY THIS?
  • 00:12:45.230 --> 00:12:47.020
  • "I KNOW GOD HAS FORGIVEN ME
  • 00:12:47.020 --> 00:12:48.130
  • BUT I CAN'T FORGIVE MYSELF."
  • 00:12:48.130 --> 00:12:49.190
  • THAT IS ACTUALLY
  • 00:12:49.190 --> 00:12:51.000
  • AN IDOLATROUS STATEMENT.
  • 00:12:51.000 --> 00:12:53.240
  • WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?
  • 00:12:53.240 --> 00:12:56.120
  • GOD HAS FORGIVEN YOU
  • 00:12:56.120 --> 00:12:57.200
  • BUT YOU ARE
  • 00:12:57.200 --> 00:12:58.250
  • A MORE RIGHTEOUS JUDGE
  • 00:12:58.250 --> 00:12:59.290
  • THAN GOD ALMIGHTY?
  • 00:12:59.290 --> 00:13:01.150
  • SO WHAT IS THE CURE
  • 00:13:01.150 --> 00:13:03.080
  • IF CONDEMNATION RESTS
  • 00:13:03.080 --> 00:13:04.160
  • IN IDOLATRY,
  • 00:13:04.160 --> 00:13:05.190
  • WHAT'S THE CURE?
  • 00:13:05.190 --> 00:13:06.270
  • IT IS WORSHIP.
  • 00:13:06.270 --> 00:13:08.280
  • WORSHIP IS THE THERAPY THAT
  • 00:13:08.280 --> 00:13:11.010
  • HEALS US OF SELF-IDOLATRY;
  • 00:13:11.010 --> 00:13:13.250
  • WHEN WE GET OUR EYES
  • 00:13:13.250 --> 00:13:14.290
  • OFF OF OURSELF AND ON
  • 00:13:14.290 --> 00:13:16.030
  • TO THE MAGNIFICENCE OF GOD.
  • 00:13:16.030 --> 00:13:17.280
  • I'M NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT
  • 00:13:17.280 --> 00:13:18.290
  • THE WAY YOU JUMP UP AND DOWN
  • 00:13:18.290 --> 00:13:20.020
  • IN CHURCH.
  • 00:13:20.020 --> 00:13:21.070
  • I'M TALKING ABOUT ADORATION,
  • 00:13:21.070 --> 00:13:22.130
  • TO WORSHIP GOD.
  • 00:13:22.130 --> 00:13:24.110
  • WE REMOVE THAT SELF
  • 00:13:24.110 --> 00:13:26.280
  • OFF OF THE THRONE,
  • 00:13:26.280 --> 00:13:28.060
  • MOVE GOD ONTO THE THRONE
  • 00:13:28.060 --> 00:13:29.170
  • AND BEGIN TO WORSHIP HIM
  • 00:13:29.170 --> 00:13:31.030
  • THEN I CAN ACCEPT
  • 00:13:31.030 --> 00:13:32.190
  • HIS JUDGMENT ON MY LIFE.
  • 00:13:32.190 --> 00:13:34.040
  • HE SAYS, "THERE IS THEREFORE,
  • 00:13:34.040 --> 00:13:35.230
  • NOW NO CONDEMNATION."
  • 00:13:35.230 --> 00:13:37.090
  • BUT AS LONG
  • 00:13:37.090 --> 00:13:38.230
  • AS I'M JUDGING MYSELF
  • 00:13:38.230 --> 00:13:40.070
  • I IMPOSE CONDEMNATION ON ME.
  • 00:13:40.070 --> 00:13:42.270
  • Betty: DON'T YOU THINK THAT
  • 00:13:42.270 --> 00:13:44.260
  • IT IS HARDER FOR US
  • 00:13:46.120 --> 00:13:48.060
  • TO GRAB HOLD OF THAT COURAGE?
  • 00:13:48.060 --> 00:13:50.020
  • BECAUSE AS CHRISTIANS
  • 00:13:50.020 --> 00:13:51.130
  • WE'RE SUPPOSED TO ALREADY,
  • 00:13:51.130 --> 00:13:52.190
  • FROM WHAT SOMETIMES
  • 00:13:53.280 --> 00:13:55.030
  • THE CHURCH SAYS,
  • 00:13:55.030 --> 00:13:56.070
  • HAVE IT ALL TOGETHER
  • 00:13:56.070 --> 00:13:57.140
  • AND NOT TALK ABOUT
  • 00:13:57.140 --> 00:13:58.170
  • THOSE THINGS IN THE PAST
  • 00:13:58.170 --> 00:13:59.200
  • OR THINGS THAT ARE
  • 00:13:59.200 --> 00:14:00.290
  • EATING YOU UP ON THE INSIDE?
  • 00:14:00.290 --> 00:14:02.050
  • I WAS FULL OF FEAR
  • 00:14:02.050 --> 00:14:03.140
  • AS A YOUNG CHRISTIAN.
  • 00:14:03.140 --> 00:14:04.240
  • I WAS INTIMIDATED.
  • 00:14:04.240 --> 00:14:06.010
  • I DIDN'T THINK MUCH OF MYSELF
  • 00:14:06.010 --> 00:14:07.180
  • UNTIL I REALLY
  • 00:14:07.180 --> 00:14:09.080
  • OPENED MY HEART UP TO GOD
  • 00:14:09.080 --> 00:14:11.110
  • TO SHOW ME
  • 00:14:11.110 --> 00:14:12.240
  • WHO HE THOUGHT I WAS
  • 00:14:12.240 --> 00:14:13.290
  • AND WHO HE BELIEVED I WAS.
  • 00:14:13.290 --> 00:14:15.050
  • BUT WE KIND OF SUPPRESS IT
  • 00:14:15.050 --> 00:14:17.090
  • BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID,
  • 00:14:17.090 --> 00:14:19.010
  • WE'RE ASHAMED.
  • 00:14:19.010 --> 00:14:20.160
  • Mark: BEAUTIFUL!
  • 00:14:20.160 --> 00:14:21.280
  • BETTY, YOU ARE SO RIGHT.
  • 00:14:21.280 --> 00:14:23.100
  • IT IS HARDER FOR US.
  • 00:14:23.100 --> 00:14:25.120
  • ONE REASON IS BECAUSE
  • 00:14:25.120 --> 00:14:26.190
  • WE KEEP THINKING
  • 00:14:26.190 --> 00:14:28.000
  • ANOTHER RELIGIOUS CRISIS
  • 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:29.210
  • WILL BE... I'LL GO
  • 00:14:29.210 --> 00:14:31.150
  • TO THE ALTAR ONE MORE TIME.
  • 00:14:31.150 --> 00:14:33.160
  • I'LL PRAY ONE MORE TIME.
  • 00:14:33.160 --> 00:14:35.040
  • I'LL GET A FRESH INFILLING
  • 00:14:35.040 --> 00:14:36.230
  • OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.
  • 00:14:36.230 --> 00:14:38.050
  • I'LL GET ONE MORE ANOINTING,
  • 00:14:38.050 --> 00:14:39.140
  • ONE MORE THING WILL HAPPEN,
  • 00:14:39.140 --> 00:14:40.270
  • AND WE JUST KEEP IT
  • 00:14:40.270 --> 00:14:42.070
  • AT A VERY SUPERFICIAL LEVEL.
  • 00:14:42.070 --> 00:14:44.130
  • FEAR, FOR EXAMPLE,
  • 00:14:44.130 --> 00:14:45.220
  • THAT IS A VERY IMPORTANT ONE.
  • 00:14:45.220 --> 00:14:46.290
  • THE THRONE
  • 00:14:46.290 --> 00:14:48.240
  • ON WHICH FEAR SITS IS PAIN.
  • 00:14:49.060 --> 00:14:52.060
  • WE IMAGINE SOME HUGE PAIN.
  • 00:14:53.050 --> 00:14:56.050
  • DO YOU EVER TAKE A KID
  • 00:14:56.050 --> 00:14:57.170
  • TO THE DOCTOR
  • 00:14:57.170 --> 00:14:58.230
  • AND THE NURSE COMES IN
  • 00:14:58.230 --> 00:14:59.250
  • WITH A HYPODERMIC NEEDLE
  • 00:14:59.250 --> 00:15:01.030
  • AND HE WIGS OUT?
  • 00:15:01.030 --> 00:15:02.110
  • IT'S BECAUSE HE IMAGINES
  • 00:15:02.110 --> 00:15:03.180
  • A PAIN THAT IS GREATER THAN
  • 00:15:03.180 --> 00:15:04.230
  • THAT WHICH HE CAN POSSIBLY...
  • 00:15:04.230 --> 00:15:06.010
  • OR PSYCHOLOGISTS,
  • 00:15:06.010 --> 00:15:07.290
  • SCIENTISTS TELL YOU,
  • 00:15:07.290 --> 00:15:09.140
  • ONE CANNOT ACTUALLY REMEMBER
  • 00:15:09.140 --> 00:15:11.250
  • THE SENSATION OF A PAIN.
  • 00:15:11.250 --> 00:15:13.290
  • YOU REMEMBER THAT IT HURT
  • 00:15:13.290 --> 00:15:16.050
  • BUT YOU CAN'T ACTUALLY
  • 00:15:16.050 --> 00:15:17.260
  • REMEMBER HOW IT FEELS.
  • 00:15:17.260 --> 00:15:20.000
  • SO THEREFORE YOU CREATE
  • 00:15:20.000 --> 00:15:21.250
  • A PAIN NARRATIVE
  • 00:15:21.250 --> 00:15:23.130
  • THAT MAY BE GREATER
  • 00:15:23.130 --> 00:15:25.030
  • THAN WHAT IT REALLY WAS.
  • 00:15:25.030 --> 00:15:26.280
  • SO A LITTLE CHRISTIAN GIRL
  • 00:15:26.280 --> 00:15:28.120
  • WHO DOESN'T FEEL GOOD
  • 00:15:28.120 --> 00:15:29.230
  • ABOUT HERSELF CREATES
  • 00:15:29.230 --> 00:15:31.070
  • THIS NARRATIVE OF PAIN,
  • 00:15:31.070 --> 00:15:32.220
  • WILL THINK I'M STUPID,
  • 00:15:34.120 --> 00:15:35.220
  • NOBODY WILL LISTEN TO ME.
  • 00:15:35.220 --> 00:15:37.010
  • I CAN'T DO THAT.
  • 00:15:37.010 --> 00:15:38.190
  • AND THAT FEAR THEN
  • 00:15:38.190 --> 00:15:40.010
  • IN YOUR LIFE.
  • 00:15:42.060 --> 00:15:44.120
  • James: HOW DO YOU
  • 00:15:44.120 --> 00:15:45.200
  • GET RID OF IT?
  • 00:15:45.200 --> 00:15:46.260
  • Mark: BY GETTING HONEST ENOUGH
  • 00:15:46.260 --> 00:15:48.040
  • ABOUT WHAT IS THE REAL THING?
  • 00:15:48.040 --> 00:15:49.150
  • SCRIPTURE TELLS US
  • 00:15:49.150 --> 00:15:51.010
  • WHAT THE THERAPY FOR PAIN IS,
  • 00:15:51.010 --> 00:15:52.260
  • FOR FEAR.
  • 00:15:52.260 --> 00:15:54.020
  • WE KNOW WHAT IT IS!
  • 00:15:54.020 --> 00:15:55.110
  • PERFECT LOVE
  • 00:15:55.110 --> 00:15:56.190
  • CASTS OUT ALL FEAR.
  • 00:15:56.190 --> 00:15:57.250
  • SO LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT
  • 00:15:57.250 --> 00:15:59.000
  • A LADY I COUNSELLED WITH
  • 00:15:59.000 --> 00:16:00.050
  • FOR A YEAR.
  • 00:16:00.050 --> 00:16:01.090
  • SHE HAD AGORAPHOBIA?
  • 00:16:01.090 --> 00:16:02.130
  • DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS?
  • 00:16:02.130 --> 00:16:03.190
  • IT MEANS THE FEAR,
  • 00:16:03.190 --> 00:16:04.270
  • FROM THE LATIN WORD
  • 00:16:04.270 --> 00:16:06.050
  • FOR MARKETPLACE, AGORA.
  • 00:16:06.050 --> 00:16:07.150
  • SO SHE IS AFRAID
  • 00:16:07.150 --> 00:16:08.240
  • TO BE OUTSIDE AND IN PUBLIC
  • 00:16:08.240 --> 00:16:10.050
  • AND IN A CROWD.
  • 00:16:10.050 --> 00:16:11.140
  • SHE FINALLY
  • 00:16:11.140 --> 00:16:12.180
  • IS SO CRIPPLED EMOTIONALLY
  • 00:16:12.180 --> 00:16:13.230
  • SHE CAN'T COME OUT
  • 00:16:13.230 --> 00:16:14.270
  • OF HER OWN HOUSE.
  • 00:16:14.270 --> 00:16:16.000
  • HER CHILDREN,
  • 00:16:16.000 --> 00:16:17.030
  • HER GROWN CHILDREN,
  • 00:16:17.030 --> 00:16:18.060
  • SHE'S AN OLD LADY,
  • 00:16:18.060 --> 00:16:19.090
  • HER GROWN CHILDREN HAVE TO
  • 00:16:19.090 --> 00:16:20.130
  • BRING HER HER GROCERIES
  • 00:16:20.130 --> 00:16:21.170
  • AND TAKE CARE OF HER.
  • 00:16:21.170 --> 00:16:22.180
  • SO WE WENT FOR A LONG TIME
  • 00:16:22.180 --> 00:16:23.240
  • ME TRYING TO CONVINCE HER
  • 00:16:23.240 --> 00:16:25.010
  • THAT NOTHING BAD
  • 00:16:25.010 --> 00:16:26.040
  • WOULD HAPPEN TO HER
  • 00:16:26.040 --> 00:16:27.110
  • IN THE SHOPPING MALL.
  • 00:16:27.110 --> 00:16:28.170
  • WE COULDN'T GET ANYWHERE.
  • 00:16:28.170 --> 00:16:29.210
  • SO I DECIDED TO REVERSE IT
  • 00:16:29.210 --> 00:16:31.000
  • AND I BEGAN TELLING HER
  • 00:16:31.000 --> 00:16:32.150
  • ALL THE BAD THINGS
  • 00:16:32.150 --> 00:16:34.000
  • THAT COULD HAPPEN TO HER
  • 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:35.090
  • IN HER HOUSE.
  • 00:16:35.090 --> 00:16:36.140
  • James: WAY TO GO, MARK!
  • 00:16:36.140 --> 00:16:37.240
  • [Laughter]
  • 00:16:37.240 --> 00:16:39.090
  • Mark: I SAID, "WHAT IF
  • 00:16:39.090 --> 00:16:40.120
  • SOMEBODY BREAKS IN HERE
  • 00:16:40.120 --> 00:16:41.170
  • AND KILLS YOU
  • 00:16:41.170 --> 00:16:42.200
  • RIGHT IN YOUR HOUSE?"
  • 00:16:42.200 --> 00:16:43.230
  • SHE SAID, "DR. RUTLAND,
  • 00:16:43.230 --> 00:16:44.290
  • I DON'T FEEL LIKE
  • 00:16:44.290 --> 00:16:46.070
  • THIS IS HELPING."
  • 00:16:46.070 --> 00:16:47.090
  • [Laughter]
  • 00:16:47.090 --> 00:16:48.160
  • SO THEN
  • 00:16:48.160 --> 00:16:49.250
  • WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THAT
  • 00:16:49.250 --> 00:16:51.030
  • THAT THERE ISN'T REALLY
  • 00:16:51.030 --> 00:16:52.170
  • A 100 PERCENT SAFE PLACE,
  • 00:16:52.170 --> 00:16:53.200
  • SHE SAID, "WELL,
  • 00:16:53.200 --> 00:16:54.250
  • WHAT'S THE SOLUTION?"
  • 00:16:54.250 --> 00:16:55.290
  • I SAID, "BRINGING JESUS
  • 00:16:55.290 --> 00:16:57.090
  • AND HIS LOVE INTO YOUR PAIN.
  • 00:16:57.090 --> 00:16:58.160
  • HE NEVER PROMISED YOU
  • 00:16:58.160 --> 00:16:59.240
  • TO AVOID PAIN,
  • 00:16:59.240 --> 00:17:01.000
  • HE PROMISED TO BE
  • 00:17:01.000 --> 00:17:02.100
  • IN THE VALLEY WITH YOU
  • 00:17:02.100 --> 00:17:03.200
  • IN THE PAIN.
  • 00:17:03.200 --> 00:17:04.250
  • SO IF HE IS WITH YOU
  • 00:17:04.250 --> 00:17:06.040
  • IN THE HOUSE
  • 00:17:06.040 --> 00:17:07.090
  • HE CAN BE WITH YOU
  • 00:17:07.090 --> 00:17:08.160
  • IN THE FRONT YARD."
  • 00:17:08.160 --> 00:17:09.200
  • James: HE CAN GIVE YOU
  • 00:17:09.200 --> 00:17:11.000
  • PEACE IN THAT VALLEY.
  • 00:17:11.000 --> 00:17:12.030
  • Mark: HE CAN BE WITH YOU
  • 00:17:12.030 --> 00:17:13.120
  • IN THE SHOPPING MALL.
  • 00:17:13.120 --> 00:17:14.210
  • WHEN HER GROWN SON CAME HOME
  • 00:17:14.210 --> 00:17:15.270
  • ONE DAY AND FOUND HER
  • 00:17:15.270 --> 00:17:17.000
  • STANDING IN THE FRONT YARD
  • 00:17:17.000 --> 00:17:18.010
  • WATERING FLOWERS, HE CALLED
  • 00:17:18.010 --> 00:17:19.080
  • ME WEEPING FROM THE CAR
  • 00:17:19.080 --> 00:17:20.160
  • AND SAID, "MY MOTHER'S IN THE
  • 00:17:20.160 --> 00:17:21.260
  • FRONT YARD WATERING FLOWERS."
  • 00:17:21.260 --> 00:17:23.030
  • I SAID, "WHY NOT?
  • 00:17:23.030 --> 00:17:24.070
  • SHE IS NOT ANY SAFER
  • 00:17:24.070 --> 00:17:25.150
  • IN HER FRONT YARD
  • 00:17:25.150 --> 00:17:26.220
  • James: IF THE PEOPLE GET
  • 00:17:28.020 --> 00:17:29.100
  • THIS BOOK AND GET INTO IT,
  • 00:17:29.100 --> 00:17:30.220
  • MARK, WHAT ARE YOU HOPING,
  • 00:17:30.220 --> 00:17:33.200
  • TO HAPPEN WHEN THEY START
  • 00:17:35.030 --> 00:17:36.030
  • GOING THROUGH IT?
  • 00:17:36.030 --> 00:17:37.040
  • WHAT DO YOU THINK
  • 00:17:37.040 --> 00:17:38.050
  • WILL TAKE PLACE?
  • 00:17:38.050 --> 00:17:39.060
  • Mark: I THINK
  • 00:17:39.060 --> 00:17:40.070
  • TWO THINGS WILL HAPPEN.
  • 00:17:40.070 --> 00:17:41.080
  • ONE IS PEOPLE WILL READ IT
  • 00:17:41.080 --> 00:17:42.110
  • AND THEY WILL THINK
  • 00:17:42.110 --> 00:17:43.120
  • OF A DOZEN OTHER PEOPLE, OH!
  • 00:17:43.120 --> 00:17:44.160
  • MY COUSIN NEEDS TO READ THIS.
  • 00:17:44.160 --> 00:17:45.200
  • MY FRIEND,
  • 00:17:45.200 --> 00:17:46.210
  • THIS IS WHAT THEY NEED!
  • 00:17:46.210 --> 00:17:47.220
  • THIS IS WHAT'S WRONG.
  • 00:17:47.220 --> 00:17:48.230
  • ALSO, I THINK
  • 00:17:48.230 --> 00:17:49.240
  • IT WILL MOTIVATE PEOPLE
  • 00:17:49.240 --> 00:17:50.270
  • TO FIND SOMEONE, A COUNSELOR,
  • 00:17:50.270 --> 00:17:52.030
  • SOMEONE THAT CAN
  • 00:17:52.030 --> 00:17:53.050
  • REALLY HELP THEM
  • 00:17:53.050 --> 00:17:54.060
  • TO EXCAVATE DOWN
  • 00:17:54.060 --> 00:17:55.100
  • AND FIND OUT WHAT'S WRONG
  • 00:17:55.100 --> 00:17:56.150
  • AND NOT WALLOW IN IT;
  • 00:17:56.150 --> 00:17:58.250
  • NOT GET DOWN THERE
  • 00:17:58.250 --> 00:18:00.050
  • AND STAY THERE,
  • 00:18:00.050 --> 00:18:01.070
  • WALLOWING IN VICTIMHOOD,
  • 00:18:01.070 --> 00:18:02.100
  • BUT TO FIND THAT VICTORY OUT
  • 00:18:02.100 --> 00:18:04.190
  • UNTIL THEY REALLY FIND
  • 00:18:04.190 --> 00:18:07.020
  • WHAT GOD WANTS FOR THEM
  • 00:18:07.020 --> 00:18:08.090
  • ON THE OTHER SIDE.
  • 00:18:08.090 --> 00:18:09.150
  • TO FIND THAT ABSCESSED TOOTH
  • 00:18:09.150 --> 00:18:12.020
  • AND GET IT OUT AND MOVE ON.
  • 00:18:12.020 --> 00:18:15.020
  • WHEN I SAID TO A GROUP
  • 00:18:15.020 --> 00:18:16.110
  • OF PEOPLE THAT I HAD BEEN
  • 00:18:16.110 --> 00:18:17.170
  • THROUGH COUNSELLING,
  • 00:18:17.170 --> 00:18:18.190
  • JAMES, I JUST MENTIONED,
  • 00:18:18.190 --> 00:18:19.210
  • "I'VE BEEN
  • 00:18:19.210 --> 00:18:21.000
  • THROUGH COUNSELLING"
  • 00:18:21.000 --> 00:18:22.070
  • THERE WAS A GASP IN THE ROOM.
  • 00:18:22.070 --> 00:18:23.200
  • THERE WAS A GASP!
  • 00:18:23.200 --> 00:18:25.060
  • AFTERWARD A MAN CAME TO ME
  • 00:18:25.060 --> 00:18:26.140
  • AND HE SAID, "DR. RUTLAND,
  • 00:18:26.140 --> 00:18:28.160
  • WHY DID YOU GO
  • 00:18:28.160 --> 00:18:29.260
  • TO COUNSELLING?"
  • 00:18:29.260 --> 00:18:31.020
  • I SAID,
  • 00:18:31.020 --> 00:18:32.150
  • "BECAUSE I NEEDED IT."
  • 00:18:32.150 --> 00:18:34.040
  • [Laughter]
  • 00:18:34.040 --> 00:18:36.250
  • James: THIS IS WHAT
  • 00:18:36.250 --> 00:18:38.060
  • I SEE YOU WRITING ABOUT.
  • 00:18:38.060 --> 00:18:39.100
  • THIS IS WHAT
  • 00:18:39.100 --> 00:18:40.110
  • YOU WANT PEOPLE TO GET.
  • 00:18:40.110 --> 00:18:41.130
  • DO YOU WANT TO SAY THANKS
  • 00:18:41.130 --> 00:18:42.190
  • TO DR. MARK RUTLAND
  • 00:18:42.190 --> 00:18:43.220
  • FOR SHARING
  • 00:18:43.220 --> 00:18:44.260
  • AND BEING HERE WITH US?
  • 00:18:44.260 --> 00:18:45.290
  • AND BEING WILLING TO TOUCH
  • 00:18:45.290 --> 00:18:47.000
  • ON THESE AREAS
  • 00:18:47.000 --> 00:18:48.080
  • THAT OFTENTIMES ARE EITHER
  • 00:18:48.080 --> 00:18:49.150
  • OVERLOOKED OR NOT UNDERSTOOD?
  • 00:18:49.150 --> 00:18:50.200
  • IT IS IN THE BOOKSTORES.
  • 00:18:50.200 --> 00:18:51.250
  • MARK, WE MENTIONED
  • 00:18:51.250 --> 00:18:53.000
  • AT THE BEGINNING
  • 00:18:53.000 --> 00:18:54.020
  • YOU WERE THE FIRST ONE
  • 00:18:54.020 --> 00:18:55.090
  • TO TAKE US AND SHOW US
  • 00:18:55.090 --> 00:18:56.120
  • HOW THESE LITTLE CHILDREN
  • 00:18:56.120 --> 00:18:57.180
  • UP IN THEIR POVERTY AREAS
  • 00:18:57.180 --> 00:18:58.250
  • WERE PURCHASED FOR SOMETIMES
  • 00:18:58.250 --> 00:19:00.020
  • A RADIO, A LITTLE PORTABLE
  • 00:19:00.020 --> 00:19:01.100
  • SOME-KIND-OF OBJECT,
  • 00:19:01.100 --> 00:19:02.170
  • SOMETIMES A LITTLE MONEY
  • 00:19:02.170 --> 00:19:03.260
  • OR A PROMISE
  • 00:19:03.260 --> 00:19:05.000
  • THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE THEM
  • 00:19:05.000 --> 00:19:06.070
  • AND TEACH THEM
  • 00:19:06.070 --> 00:19:07.120
  • AND GET THEM A JOB.
  • 00:19:07.120 --> 00:19:08.180
  • IT WAS AWFUL.
  • 00:19:08.180 --> 00:19:09.240
  • WE SAW WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM.
  • 00:19:09.240 --> 00:19:11.000
  • WE SAW THE PEOPLE
  • 00:19:11.000 --> 00:19:12.100
  • COMING THERE TO TAKE THEM
  • 00:19:12.100 --> 00:19:13.160
  • AND USE THEM.
  • 00:19:13.160 --> 00:19:14.240
  • DEAR GOD, PLEASE!
  • 00:19:14.240 --> 00:19:16.030
  • SET PEOPLE FREE
  • 00:19:16.030 --> 00:19:17.070
  • FROM THIS BONDAGE.
  • 00:19:17.070 --> 00:19:18.150
  • BOY, YOU TALK ABOUT A PRISON
  • 00:19:18.150 --> 00:19:19.220
  • TO BE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE
  • 00:19:20.280 --> 00:19:22.040
  • OF LITTLE CHILDREN.
  • 00:19:22.040 --> 00:19:23.110
  • WE CAN SET THEM FREE.
  • 00:19:23.110 --> 00:19:24.160
  • LOVE SETS THEM FREE.
  • 00:19:24.160 --> 00:19:25.210
  • WE HAVE RELIEF WORKERS
  • 00:19:25.210 --> 00:19:26.290
  • AND MISSION WORKERS
  • 00:19:26.290 --> 00:19:28.060
  • THAT HAVE THEIR ARMS
  • 00:19:28.060 --> 00:19:29.120
  • REACHING OUT AND THEIR ARMS
  • 00:19:29.120 --> 00:19:30.200
  • AROUND THESE PRECIOUS ONES
  • 00:19:30.200 --> 00:19:31.290
  • AND YOU MAKE IT POSSIBLE.
  • 00:19:31.290 --> 00:19:34.010
  • THINK OF IT, BETTY,
  • 00:19:34.010 --> 00:19:35.120
  • WE'VE GOT VIEWERS,
  • 00:19:35.120 --> 00:19:36.200
  • AND WE WERE SO CONCERNED
  • 00:19:36.200 --> 00:19:38.010
  • YEARS AGO
  • 00:19:38.010 --> 00:19:39.100
  • WHEN WE JUST SHOWED
  • 00:19:39.100 --> 00:19:40.170
  • THE FIRST TIME OUR VIEWERS
  • 00:19:40.170 --> 00:19:42.020
  • THIS REALITY.
  • 00:19:42.020 --> 00:19:43.070
  • WE THOUGHT, WELL,
  • 00:19:43.070 --> 00:19:44.140
  • THEY'LL TELL US, "DON'T EVER
  • 00:19:44.140 --> 00:19:45.220
  • SHOW US THAT AGAIN."
  • 00:19:45.220 --> 00:19:46.290
  • THE OPPOSITE WAS TRUE,
  • 00:19:46.290 --> 00:19:48.060
  • "SHOW US HOW WE CAN HELP."
  • 00:19:48.060 --> 00:19:49.160
  • IT IS UNUSUAL BECAUSE
  • 00:19:49.160 --> 00:19:50.260
  • PEOPLE STEPPED UP
  • 00:19:50.260 --> 00:19:52.040
  • AND SAID, "WE KNOW
  • 00:19:52.040 --> 00:19:53.130
  • YOU'RE GOING TO BE RESCUING,
  • 00:19:53.130 --> 00:19:54.200
  • HERE'S OUR MATCHING GIFT."
  • 00:19:54.200 --> 00:19:56.050
  • THAT'S LOVE!
  • 00:19:56.050 --> 00:19:57.140
  • $320.000 IS A LOT OF MONEY.
  • 00:19:57.140 --> 00:19:59.060
  • IT COULD HAVE COME
  • 00:19:59.060 --> 00:20:00.140
  • FROM SOME LARGE GIFTS
  • 00:20:00.140 --> 00:20:01.210
  • OF SEVERAL THOUSAND,
  • 00:20:01.210 --> 00:20:02.250
  • IT COULD HAVE COME FROM
  • 00:20:02.250 --> 00:20:04.000
  • QUITE A FEW $1.000 --
  • 00:20:04.000 --> 00:20:05.040
  • I DON'T KNOW
  • 00:20:05.040 --> 00:20:06.110
  • HOW IT ALL CAME TOGETHER
  • 00:20:06.110 --> 00:20:07.150
  • BUT THESE ARE
  • 00:20:07.150 --> 00:20:08.190
  • INDIVIDUALS LIKE YOU
  • 00:20:08.190 --> 00:20:09.220
  • THAT MADE A COMMITMENT
  • 00:20:09.220 --> 00:20:10.260
  • TO MATCH WHAT YOU DO
  • 00:20:10.260 --> 00:20:12.010
  • BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE SO MUCH
  • 00:20:12.010 --> 00:20:13.140
  • TO RESCUE SOMEONE LIKE THAT.
  • 00:20:13.140 --> 00:20:14.220
  • AND WE CAN DO IT.
  • 00:20:14.220 --> 00:20:15.250
  • IT IS NOT AN EXAGGERATION.
  • 00:20:15.250 --> 00:20:17.010
  • IT WORKS.
  • 00:20:17.010 --> 00:20:18.090
  • WOULD YOU PLEASE
  • 00:20:18.090 --> 00:20:19.170
  • RIGHT NOW ASK GOD
  • 00:20:19.170 --> 00:20:20.220
  • WHAT HE WANTS YOU TO DO?
  • 00:20:20.220 --> 00:20:21.280
  • WHATEVER YOU DO
  • 00:20:21.280 --> 00:20:23.030
  • WILL BE MATCHED.
  • 00:20:23.030 --> 00:20:24.080
  • IT TAKES AN AVERAGE OF $128
  • 00:20:24.080 --> 00:20:25.140
  • FOR US TO REACH,
  • 00:20:25.140 --> 00:20:26.190
  • RESCUE, AND BEGIN
  • 00:20:26.190 --> 00:20:27.240
  • THE RESTORATION PROCESS.
  • 00:20:27.240 --> 00:20:28.290
  • THAT GIFT WILL BE MATCHED,
  • 00:20:28.290 --> 00:20:30.070
  • WHICH MEANS
  • 00:20:30.070 --> 00:20:31.140
  • IF YOU GIVE THE $128,
  • 00:20:31.140 --> 00:20:32.240
  • NOT JUST REACH ONE BUT TWO.
  • 00:20:32.240 --> 00:20:34.210
  • AND I REALLY,
  • 00:20:34.210 --> 00:20:35.260
  • YOU KNOW I'M GOING
  • 00:20:35.260 --> 00:20:37.010
  • TO ASK YOU TO THINK BIG.
  • 00:20:37.010 --> 00:20:38.060
  • I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM
  • 00:20:38.060 --> 00:20:39.110
  • ASKING TO YOU ELEVATE
  • 00:20:39.110 --> 00:20:40.160
  • YOUR THINKING
  • 00:20:40.160 --> 00:20:41.210
  • WHEN IT COMES TO GIVING
  • 00:20:41.210 --> 00:20:42.260
  • AND THE JOY OF GIVING
  • 00:20:42.260 --> 00:20:44.010
  • AND BLESSING OTHERS.
  • 00:20:44.010 --> 00:20:45.060
  • IF YOU GIVE $1280
  • 00:20:45.060 --> 00:20:46.110
  • WE CAN REACH TEN.
  • 00:20:46.110 --> 00:20:47.160
  • BEHIND THE BRIGHT LIGHTS
  • 00:20:50.150 --> 00:20:52.120
  • THERE'S A DARKNESS WHERE A WORLD OF INNOCENCE IS LOST
  • 00:20:52.150 --> 00:20:54.250
  • AND ABUSE RUNS RAMPANT
  • 00:20:54.280 --> 00:20:56.250
  • SCARRING THE SOULS OF CHILDREN
  • 00:20:56.280 --> 00:20:58.250
  • WITH NO ONE AND NOWHERE TO TURN FOR HELP.
  • 00:20:58.280 --> 00:21:01.220
  • WITH BODIES BROKEN AND HOPES CRUSHED,
  • 00:21:01.250 --> 00:21:03.270
  • THESE YOUNG VICTIMS ARE TRAPPED
  • 00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:05.270
  • IN A NEVER-ENDING NIGHTMARE.
  • 00:21:06.000 --> 00:21:08.020
  • TODAY YOU CAN SHINE THE LIGHT OF GOD'S LOVE IN THIS DARK WORLD
  • 00:21:08.050 --> 00:21:11.150
  • TO REACH, RESCUE, AND RESTORE THESE YOUNG ONES
  • 00:21:11.180 --> 00:21:14.060
  • TO THE LIFE GOD DESIGNED FOR THEM TO LIVE.
  • 00:21:14.090 --> 00:21:17.130
  • WITH A GENEROUS $320.000 MATCHING GIFT,
  • 00:21:17.160 --> 00:21:20.170
  • NOW YOUR GIFT OF $128 TO HELP RESCUE A CHILD
  • 00:21:20.200 --> 00:21:23.220
  • CAN BE DOUBLED TO HELP TWO CHILDREN.
  • 00:21:23.250 --> 00:21:26.110
  • YOUR $64 GIFT WILL BE MATCHED TO HELP RESCUE ONE CHILD
  • 00:21:26.140 --> 00:21:29.090
  • FROM THE HORRORS OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING.
  • 00:21:29.120 --> 00:21:31.090
  • AND A $32 MISSION RESCUE GIFT
  • 00:21:31.120 --> 00:21:33.130
  • WILL BE DOUBLED TO $64.
  • 00:21:33.160 --> 00:21:35.270
  • AND WITH YOUR DONATION OF ANY AMOUNT
  • 00:21:36.000 --> 00:21:37.270
  • WE'LL SEND YOU THE FAITH, HOPE, LOVE TEA TOWEL SET.
  • 00:21:38.000 --> 00:21:40.140
  • THESE BEAUTIFULLY WOVEN HAND TOWELS
  • 00:21:40.170 --> 00:21:42.140
  • ARE A WONDERFUL REMINDER
  • 00:21:42.170 --> 00:21:44.140
  • TO REMAIN STEADFAST IN FAITH, HOPE, AND LOVE EACH DAY.
  • 00:21:44.170 --> 00:21:48.000
  • WITH YOUR GIFT OF $128 OR MORE
  • 00:21:48.030 --> 00:21:50.070
  • YOU'LL RECEIVE THE LIFE-GIVING PROVERBS JOURNAL
  • 00:21:50.100 --> 00:21:52.150
  • BOUND IN GENUINE LEATHER.
  • 00:21:52.180 --> 00:21:54.150
  • THIS JOURNAL IS FILLED WITH WISDOM
  • 00:21:54.180 --> 00:21:56.150
  • AND DAILY ENCOURAGEMENT FROM PROVERBS,
  • 00:21:56.180 --> 00:21:58.150
  • FEATURING LINED PAGES FOR YOUR PERSONAL NOTES
  • 00:21:58.180 --> 00:22:00.170
  • AS YOU REFLECT ON GODLY INSTRUCTION
  • 00:22:00.200 --> 00:22:02.170
  • TO SUCCESS IN LIFE.
  • 00:22:02.200 --> 00:22:04.170
  • FINALLY, PLEASE CONSIDER A GIFT OF $1.280
  • 00:22:04.200 --> 00:22:07.240
  • WHICH WILL NOW HELP RESCUE 20 CHILDREN!
  • 00:22:07.270 --> 00:22:10.010
  • AND YOU MAY REQUEST OUR BEAUTIFUL BRONZE SCULPTURE,
  • 00:22:10.040 --> 00:22:12.090
  • "SAFE IN THE SHEPHERD'S ARMS."
  • 00:22:12.120 --> 00:22:14.140
  • PLEASE CALL, WRITE, OR MAKE YOUR GIFT ONLINE.
  • 00:22:14.170 --> 00:22:18.120
  • James: I WAS JUST
  • 00:22:19.220 --> 00:22:22.220
  • TELLING MARK RUTLAND
  • 00:22:22.220 --> 00:22:24.190
  • HOW AMAZING YOU ARE.
  • 00:22:24.190 --> 00:22:25.290
  • HE'S TO US AN AMAZING PERSON.
  • 00:22:25.290 --> 00:22:27.280
  • HE IS THE FIRST ONE
  • 00:22:27.280 --> 00:22:29.030
  • THAT SHOWED US
  • 00:22:29.030 --> 00:22:30.090
  • THESE LITTLE CHILDREN.
  • 00:22:30.090 --> 00:22:31.210
  • MARK, THANK YOU FOR THAT.
  • 00:22:31.210 --> 00:22:33.040
  • YOU WERE THERE
  • 00:22:33.040 --> 00:22:34.100
  • WITH US IN CHINA
  • 00:22:34.100 --> 00:22:35.160
  • WHEN WE DEDICATED AN ORPHANAGE
  • 00:22:35.160 --> 00:22:36.260
  • THAT WAS ONE OF THE MOST
  • 00:22:36.260 --> 00:22:38.060
  • BEAUTIFUL THINGS EVER.
  • 00:22:38.060 --> 00:22:39.110
  • AND WE GOT TO SEE
  • 00:22:39.110 --> 00:22:40.240
  • THE CORRUPTION THAT WAS
  • 00:22:40.240 --> 00:22:42.040
  • IN THE ADOPTION PROCESSES
  • 00:22:42.040 --> 00:22:43.120
  • CHANGED TO WHERE IT BECAME
  • 00:22:43.120 --> 00:22:44.290
  • FAR MORE WHOLESOME FOR PEOPLE
  • 00:22:44.290 --> 00:22:46.140
  • TO HAVE LITTLE CHILDREN
  • 00:22:46.140 --> 00:22:47.260
  • FROM CHINA.
  • 00:22:47.260 --> 00:22:49.050
  • A WHOLE LOT MORE HEALING
  • 00:22:49.050 --> 00:22:50.140
  • NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE IN CHINA.
  • 00:22:50.140 --> 00:22:51.240
  • MARK RUTLAND IS PUTTING
  • 00:22:51.240 --> 00:22:53.020
  • SOMETHING IN OUR HANDS
  • 00:22:53.020 --> 00:22:54.100
  • AND MAKING IT AVAILABLE,
  • 00:22:54.100 --> 00:22:55.160
  • COURAGE TO BE HEALED .
  • 00:22:55.160 --> 00:22:56.230
  • BOY, INNER HEALING.
  • 00:22:56.230 --> 00:22:57.290
  • THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS,
  • 00:22:57.290 --> 00:22:59.050
  • MARK.
  • 00:22:59.050 --> 00:23:00.150
  • JOHN BEVERE,
  • 00:23:00.150 --> 00:23:01.190
  • ONE OF OUR BEST FRIENDS
  • 00:23:01.190 --> 00:23:02.250
  • WROTE THE FORWARD.
  • 00:23:02.250 --> 00:23:03.260
  • YOU SAY, "JAMES,
  • 00:23:03.260 --> 00:23:05.020
  • IF WE HELP YOU RESCUE
  • 00:23:05.020 --> 00:23:06.040
  • SOME OF THOSE PRECIOUS GIRLS
  • 00:23:06.040 --> 00:23:07.090
  • AND CHILDREN,
  • 00:23:07.090 --> 00:23:08.130
  • COULD WE HAVE MARK'S BOOK?
  • 00:23:08.130 --> 00:23:09.170
  • I THINK IT WOULD MEAN
  • 00:23:09.170 --> 00:23:10.200
  • SOMETHING TO ME
  • 00:23:10.200 --> 00:23:11.240
  • OR SOMEONE I LOVE."
  • 00:23:11.240 --> 00:23:13.000
  • YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT.
  • 00:23:13.000 --> 00:23:14.030
  • YOU JUST ASK FOR IT.
  • 00:23:14.030 --> 00:23:15.050
  • WE'LL SEND IT
  • 00:23:15.050 --> 00:23:16.090
  • AS AN EXPRESSION OF GRATITUDE.
  • 00:23:16.090 --> 00:23:17.100
  • JOIN BETTY AND ME
  • 00:23:17.100 --> 00:23:18.170
  • SAYING THANKS TO DR. RUTLAND
  • 00:23:18.170 --> 00:23:19.190
  • FOR BEING WITH US.
  • 00:23:19.190 --> 00:23:20.240
  • MARK, WE LOVE YOU!
  • 00:23:20.240 --> 00:23:21.270
  • YOU GIVE OUR REGARDS
  • 00:23:21.270 --> 00:23:23.010
  • TO THE CHURCH
  • 00:23:23.010 --> 00:23:24.020
  • BACK IN GAINESVILLE
  • 00:23:24.020 --> 00:23:25.070
  • AND TO JENTEZEN.
  • 00:23:25.070 --> 00:23:26.100
  • THANK ALL OF YOU FOR WATCHING.
  • 00:23:26.100 --> 00:23:27.150
  • I DO THANK YOU SO MUCH
  • 00:23:27.150 --> 00:23:28.200
  • FOR YOUR LOVE, YOUR PRAYERS
  • 00:23:28.200 --> 00:23:29.230
  • 00:23:44.190 --> 00:23:53.040
  • I WAS WORKING IN TOWN ONE AFTERNOON
  • 00:24:01.200 --> 00:24:06.110
  • TENDING SOME BUSINESS AFFAIRS
  • 00:24:06.140 --> 00:24:10.130
  • WHEN I HEARD A COMMOTION A COUPLE STREETS OVER
  • 00:24:10.160 --> 00:24:14.270
  • AND WONDERED WHAT WAS HAPPENING THERE
  • 00:24:15.000 --> 00:24:19.100
  • A YOUNG MAN WAS RUNNING FROM IN THAT DIRECTION
  • 00:24:19.130 --> 00:24:23.230
  • AND STOPPED JUST TO CATCH HIS BREATH
  • 00:24:23.260 --> 00:24:27.240
  • I ASKED HIM TO PLEASE TELL ME WHAT WAS THE HURRY
  • 00:24:27.270 --> 00:24:33.070
  • HE SMILED AT ME AND SAID
  • 00:24:33.100 --> 00:24:36.230
  • I WAS TRYING TO CATCH THE CRIPPLED MAN
  • 00:24:36.260 --> 00:24:41.230
  • DID HE RUN PAST THIS WAY?
  • 00:24:41.260 --> 00:24:45.270
  • HE WAS RUSHING HOME TO TELL EVERYONE
  • 00:24:46.000 --> 00:24:50.090
  • WHAT JESUS DID TODAY
  • 00:24:50.120 --> 00:24:54.160
  • AND THE MUTE MAN WAS TELLING MYSELF AND THE DEAF GIRL
  • 00:24:54.190 --> 00:24:59.060
  • HE'S LEAVING TO ANSWER GOD'S CALL
  • 00:24:59.090 --> 00:25:03.150
  • IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE BUT IF YOU DON'T TRUST ME
  • 00:25:03.180 --> 00:25:08.210
  • ASK THE BLIND MAN, HE SAW IT ALL
  • 00:25:08.240 --> 00:25:12.260
  • ASK THE BLIND MAN, HE SAW IT ALL
  • 00:25:12.290 --> 00:25:17.000
  • MY FRIEND, IF THE TROUBLES AND BURDENS YOU CARRY
  • 00:25:24.020 --> 00:25:28.180
  • ARE HEAVY AND DRAGGING YOU DOWN
  • 00:25:28.210 --> 00:25:32.210
  • AND YOU'VE TRIED EVERYTHING YOU CAN POSSIBLY THINK OF
  • 00:25:32.240 --> 00:25:37.080
  • BUT THERE'S NO RELIEF TO BE FOUND
  • 00:25:37.110 --> 00:25:41.010
  • THAT VERY SAME JESUS THAT ALTERED THE FUTURES
  • 00:25:41.040 --> 00:25:45.230
  • OF THE BLIND MAN, THE DEAF AND THE LAME
  • 00:25:45.260 --> 00:25:49.230
  • HE'S STILL REACHING OUT IN YOUR HOUR OF TROUBLE
  • 00:25:49.260 --> 00:25:55.090
  • ONE TOUCH AND YOU'RE NEVER THE SAME
  • 00:25:55.120 --> 00:25:58.290
  • YOU'LL BE TRYING TO CATCH THE CRIPPLED MAN
  • 00:25:59.020 --> 00:26:04.070
  • DID HE RUN PAST THIS WAY?
  • 00:26:04.100 --> 00:26:08.090
  • HE WAS RUSHING HOME TO TELL EVERYONE
  • 00:26:08.120 --> 00:26:12.270
  • WHAT JESUS DID TODAY
  • 00:26:13.000 --> 00:26:16.270
  • AND THE MUTE MAN WAS TELLING MYSELF AND THE DEAF GIRL
  • 00:26:17.000 --> 00:26:21.180
  • HE'S LEAVING TO ANSWER GOD'S CALL
  • 00:26:21.210 --> 00:26:25.260
  • IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE BUT IF YOU DON'T TRUST ME
  • 00:26:25.290 --> 00:26:30.290
  • ASK THE BLIND MAN HE SAW IT ALL
  • 00:26:31.020 --> 00:26:37.000
  • ASK THE BLIND MAN HE SAW IT ALL
  • 00:26:37.030 --> 00:26:42.000
  • HE SAW IT ALL
  • 00:26:48.050 --> 00:26:54.030
  • NEXT WEEK, JONATHAN CAIN FROM THE BAND, JOURNEY
  • 00:27:02.170 --> 00:27:05.250
  • SHARES HIS RETURN TO FAITH
  • 00:27:05.280 --> 00:27:08.050
  • AND HIS MARRIAGE TO PASTOR PAULA WHITE.
  • 00:27:08.080 --> 00:27:10.250
  • LIFE TODAY IS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE SUPPORTERS OF LIFE OUTREACH INTERNATIONAL.
  • 00:27:12.170 --> 00:27:15.290
  • YOUR GIFT WILL BE USED EXCLUSIVELY FOR THE EXEMPT PURPOSES OF LIFE.
  • 00:27:16.020 --> 00:27:19.020
  • THE MINISTRY FEATURES SPECIFIC OUTREACHES
  • 00:27:19.050 --> 00:27:21.040
  • AS EXAMPLES OF THE PROGRAMS IT SUPPORTS AND CONDUCTS.
  • 00:27:21.070 --> 00:27:23.060
  • GIFTS ARE CONSIDERED TO BE WITHOUT RESTRICTION
  • 00:27:23.090 --> 00:27:25.080
  • AS TO USE UNLESS EXPLICITLY STIPULATED BY THE DONOR.
  • 00:27:25.110 --> 00:27:27.120
  • THE MINISTRY IS A MEMBER OF THE E.C.F.A.
  • 00:27:27.150 --> 00:27:29.220