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Joe Baker and Paul Isaacs

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October 31, 2019
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One on One with Kirk Cameron

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  • You don't look comfortable, Paul.
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  • Man was not meant to live like this.
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  • -We got this! -Holy cow!
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  • (laughs, grunts)
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  • I'm Kirk Cameron.
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  • And I get to meet some pretty amazing people.
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  • These are people who totally inspire me
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  • with their hearts full of faith,
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  • character and courage.
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  • They push their limits, they think outside the box,
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  • and bravely use their gifts
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  • and talents to bless others.
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  • And today, we get to spend some time one on one.
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  • Raising kids is one of the greatest things
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  • in my whole life.
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  • Chelsea and I have six of them,
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  • and as overwhelming as it can feel sometimes,
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  • we wouldn't change it for the whole world.
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  • That's why I invited over my friends
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  • Joe Baker and Paul Isaacs.
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  • They run an organization called Save the Storks.
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  • They work with pregnancy resource centers
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  • all over the country to provide expectant mothers
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  • with free ultrasounds, prenatal care,
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  • excellent medical services and information,
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  • to help them make truly informed decisions
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  • that will be best
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  • for them and their baby.
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  • They're literally saving
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  • and changing lives every single day.
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  • Hey, guys.
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  • -JOE: Hey, man. -How's it going?
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  • -All right. -Good to see you.
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  • -PAUL: Kirk. -Hey. How are you?
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  • Have a seat.
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  • -You like this? -It's a great spread.
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  • Real quick, how'd you come up with the name?
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  • (Joe and Paul chuckling)
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  • There's a great story there.
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  • Everybody who isn't pro-life always seems to love
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  • an environmental cause, so I said, you know,
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  • "Why don't we go with something that sounds environmental?"
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  • And so I came up with "Save the Storks."
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  • Yeah, it's a mythical bird that carries a baby, you know?
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  • And, uh, I printed up these shirts that said,
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  • "55 million storks shot down since 1973."
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  • Obviously referring to Roe v. Wade.
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  • As soon as the box arrived, I put one on and I was headed
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  • out the door to the Apple Store.
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  • And I didn't even make it to the Genius Bar
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  • when this woman grabs me by the shoulder.
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  • She turns me around and she says,
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  • "I've heard of the spotted owl, and the whale,
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  • but who is killing the storks?"
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  • -And, uh... -(all chuckling)
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  • -She was very concerned about that. -Yeah.
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  • And so I couldn't help but tell her that there were
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  • some Cheneys up in North Dakota shooting them down
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  • as they were coming over the border, and...
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  • -You didn't. -Yeah, I did.
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  • -You did. (chuckles) -I couldn't help it.
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  • -And, uh... -He did.
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  • At some point, uh, I level w-with the woman
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  • and, I mean, she was ready to sell everything
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  • and join my cause and, and then at some point I said,
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  • "Ma'am, I'm totally messing with you.
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  • "But our cause is even greater than this,
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  • 'cause we are saving human lives." And I said,
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  • "Many women who are about to make a decision for abortion
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  • will choose life because of this organization I'm building."
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  • And she got cold and emotionless and she says,
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  • "Well, I'm 100% pro-choice."
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  • And without even missing a beat, Kirk, I said,
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  • "That is wonderful to hear," I said,
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  • "Because 84% of post-abortive women have later said
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  • "that having an abortion was their only choice.
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  • "And I'm here to meet the needs of those women and provide
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  • the two alternatives to abortion to them."
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  • And this woman had no idea what to do with that.
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  • 'Cause suddenly it sounded so pro-choice to her.
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  • And I realized, to me, that I was onto something,
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  • that our name started our conversation in a new place...
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  • -Mm. -...where I can begin a new dialogue,
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  • and so it's been a fun aspect of our-our name.
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  • Uh, everywhere I go people are asking me, you know,
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  • "Who's killing the storks?
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  • How do I save the storks?" You know?
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  • And, uh, I'm always leading 'em on
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  • -before I tell 'em what we really do. -Yeah.
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  • I-I love the story of how S-Save the Storks got started.
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  • It's the story about you and you went on a mission trip.
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  • -Tell the story again. -Yeah, it was actually the Bronx of New York,
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  • and we were there, uh, to-to just help women
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  • who are going into an abortion clinic
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  • make a better decision.
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  • And I got to see these young, passionate pro-lifers using
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  • a really ghetto, retrofitted shuttle van,
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  • uh, probably on about a $5.000 budget.
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  • Uh, but they were there, passionately wanting
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  • to offer women a free sonogram
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  • and some resources if they decided to carry.
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  • And when I saw the thing, I said, "I don't know.
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  • I'm not-- I don't really think this is gonna work."
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  • -Yeah. Yes, it's kind of a shady van... -Yeah.
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  • -It was-- Didn't look all-- maybe all that safe. -PAUL: Yeah.
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  • And so I was a little bit off to the side,
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  • and the girl who's gonna train me that morning,
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  • she ran in to get a coffee.
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  • And out of nowhere a woman came up to me,
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  • who I thought maybe was asking me for directions,
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  • says, "I'm here for my appointment."
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  • And she thought that I was working
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  • at the abortion clinic I was standing in front of.
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  • And, uh... uh, I said,
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  • "No, no, no, no, I don't work here at this abortion clinic.
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  • "Uh, but I'm hanging out with these folks over here
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  • "that have this van and some resources
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  • "if you'd like to climb aboard.
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  • "Uh, they'll-they'll offer you some resources
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  • if you decide to carry."
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  • Walked her over and I-I presented her
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  • to the sonographer at the door.
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  • Uh, that gave me just a little bit of time to pray.
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  • And, uh, I-I knew something
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  • truly amazing was taking place on that vehicle.
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  • Uh, but when she came off,
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  • I could see there were tears in her eyes
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  • and she was be-- booting up her phone.
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  • And so I wanted to ask her something.
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  • So I said, "Who are you calling?"
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  • I didn't know what else to say.
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  • -Yeah. -And she said, "I'm calling my mom
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  • "to tell her that I'm gonna--
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  • "or that she's gonna be a grandmother.
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  • And to get some help."
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  • -Wow. -And, I'll tell you, man,
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  • that changed my life. Like, it was like
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  • an addiction that started right then. And...
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  • W-What was it inside of that van
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  • that-that-that you think changed the game for her?
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  • JOE: Yeah, see, the magic is in the sonogram.
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  • A mother begins to bond with her baby,
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  • sometimes for the first time, with that sonogram.
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  • That's what changes the game.
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  • -And she hears the heartbeat. -PAUL: Yeah.
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  • -And... -And-And that was the thing,
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  • Kirk, like, the van may not have looked all that great.
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  • Um, but the people that helped that girl
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  • -and talked with her... -Yeah.
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  • ...and showed her, uh, the ultrasound
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  • of what was going on inside her stomach, like,
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  • and-and to hear the heartbeat,
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  • uh, that changed the game for that girl.
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  • -As rudimentary as it was... -Yeah.
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  • And it changed the game for him.
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  • Yeah, so-so what happened then?
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  • So that night, I, uh, called my fiancée, Ann,
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  • and I said, "Ann," I said, "What if I could do
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  • "what I saw today everywhere in America?
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  • "What if we could take it up a notch?
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  • What if we could do it with excellence?"
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  • And those are the two kind of entrepreneurial problems
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  • -I wanted to solve that I was just-- -Hmm.
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  • -couldn't even sleep over. -Hmm.
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  • And, uh, it was a year later
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  • that, uh, Ann-- when Ann and I got married--
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  • I got to tell my then father-in-law, I said,
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  • "Hey, Dave, uh, uh,
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  • "we didn't spend all our money on a house,
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  • "but instead we bought this
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  • "brand-new Mercedes Sprinter van and some sleeping bags,
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  • -and we're going on tour." -Nice! (chuckles)
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  • -I bet he was pretty fired up about that. -PAUL: Real exciting.
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  • Yeah, that's how we started our marriage, and I'll tell you,
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  • it was pure misery at the beginning,
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  • -it was really hard. -Mm.
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  • -You were living in the van? -Yeah, we lived in the van.
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  • With not even just us, we had--
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  • we took some other people with us to go on this tour.
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  • -And so... Yes. -Great. Great honeymoon.
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  • -Exactly. -Great honeymoon scenario.
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  • -Yeah. -(Paul laughing)
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  • Actually, in the first year, that first bus,
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  • I had 394 women make a decision for life,
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  • uh, right in front of an abortion clinic.
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  • So, inside of the-the bus, which is
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  • -a Mercedes Sprinter van... -PAUL: Right.
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  • KIRK: ...um, inside, you, like--
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  • -you decked it out with... -JOE: Yeah.
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  • ...a sonogram machine,
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  • ultrasound, with, like, leather seats
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  • and, like, surround sound
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  • so she can hear the heartbeat
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  • and flat-screen TVs.
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  • -The whole-- the whole nine yards, right? -Right.
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  • The idea is to make a girl feel comfortable
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  • and safe. And then to have that kind
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  • of technology show them what's going on inside is--
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  • it's a game changer.
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  • And-and, typically, what-what happens?
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  • So
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  • So,
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  • So, I
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  • So, I go
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  • So, I got
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  • So, I got to
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  • So, I got to g
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  • So, I got to go
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  • So, I got to go
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  • So, I got to go
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  • So, I got to go ba
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  • So, I got to go back
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  • So, I got to go back t
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  • So, I got to go back to
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  • So, I got to go back to th
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  • So, I got to go back to the
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  • So, I got to go back to the Br
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  • So, I got to go back to the Bron
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  • So, I got to go back to the Bronx,
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  • So, I got to go back to the Bronx, u
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  • So, I got to go back to the Bronx, uh,
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  • just a couple weeks ago and, uh...
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  • and actually take one of our high quality mobile units
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  • and do the same thing.
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  • And I was amazed at the success rate of it.
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  • Uh, we had one woman-- literally had her hand
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  • on the door of the abortion clinic
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  • when the pregnancy center director said,
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  • "Hey, just come on in, into our bus
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  • and just consider your options."
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  • And she says, "There's no way I'm carrying,
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  • but I'll come aboard." And she came aboard
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  • and, uh, received the sonogram.
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  • And she just began to bond with that baby.
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  • -Mm. -And, uh... and she began to share that
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  • her and her boyfriend, who just felt
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  • like they couldn't have a baby right now and...
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  • and yet she began to have that emotional connection and say,
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  • "You know, I-I see that it's a living... being,
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  • just-just like me."
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  • -The sonogram tech ended up putting... -Yeah.
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  • -...on the-- on the image, -Right.
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  • -"To Mom." "To Mom." And then... -"To Mom."
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  • -And she, uh-- and then the girl... -Yeah.
  • 00:08:16.220 --> 00:08:18.090
  • the girl was so overwhelmed by that, that she says,
  • 00:08:18.100 --> 00:08:20.090
  • "Would you make me another sonogram
  • 00:08:20.100 --> 00:08:22.030
  • -and write 'To Dad' on it?" -"To Dad." Yeah.
  • 00:08:22.040 --> 00:08:24.070
  • -Oh. Oh. -It was, uh...
  • 00:08:24.080 --> 00:08:25.170
  • -And walked off there... -Yeah.
  • 00:08:25.180 --> 00:08:27.240
  • -...keeping that baby. -With th-- with those two photos.
  • 00:08:27.250 --> 00:08:29.100
  • -Yeah. -With those photos.
  • 00:08:29.110 --> 00:08:30.140
  • And she didn't keep her appointment
  • 00:08:30.150 --> 00:08:31.150
  • -at-at the clinic? -No. -No. No.
  • 00:08:31.160 --> 00:08:32.270
  • -But a hand was on the door. -(exhales)
  • 00:08:32.280 --> 00:08:34.190
  • And-and the day was set. Today was--
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  • That was the day that she was gonna have an abortion.
  • 00:08:36.170 --> 00:08:38.240
  • Wow. And you know what-- you know what's amazing to me
  • 00:08:38.250 --> 00:08:40.240
  • about that and what I love about that? There's--
  • 00:08:40.250 --> 00:08:42.120
  • -Y-You're not mentioning any picket signs... -No.
  • 00:08:42.130 --> 00:08:44.120
  • ...no bullhorns, no shame, no guilt, no judgment.
  • 00:08:44.130 --> 00:08:47.220
  • Nothing like that. It's just...
  • 00:08:47.230 --> 00:08:49.100
  • You're offering free medical care
  • 00:08:49.110 --> 00:08:52.000
  • so that she's more informed,
  • 00:08:52.010 --> 00:08:54.160
  • and then the-the baby does the convincing.
  • 00:08:54.170 --> 00:08:57.160
  • -E-Exactly. Exactly. Yeah, th... -Yeah.
  • 00:08:57.170 --> 00:08:59.110
  • -That's-that's stellar. -I love it,
  • 00:08:59.120 --> 00:09:00.290
  • like, when you say it like that,
  • 00:09:01.000 --> 00:09:02.100
  • 'cause that's exactly what it is-- the baby,
  • 00:09:02.110 --> 00:09:03.240
  • uh, you know, helps the w-woman make the decision
  • 00:09:03.250 --> 00:09:05.290
  • for life. And-and so much of, like,
  • 00:09:06.000 --> 00:09:08.090
  • what's happened in the past
  • 00:09:08.100 --> 00:09:09.230
  • with pro-life, like, you know, uh, has been about,
  • 00:09:09.240 --> 00:09:12.230
  • you know, picketing and protesting and boycotting.
  • 00:09:12.240 --> 00:09:16.030
  • But now it's about-- we're making it about service.
  • 00:09:16.040 --> 00:09:18.210
  • How do we serve this mom?
  • 00:09:18.220 --> 00:09:20.180
  • -Yeah. -Because
  • 00:09:20.190 --> 00:09:21.160
  • statistics say that 84%
  • 00:09:21.170 --> 00:09:23.040
  • of post abortive women later say
  • 00:09:23.050 --> 00:09:24.240
  • they felt having an abortion was their only option.
  • 00:09:24.250 --> 00:09:27.040
  • And 64% of those women say
  • 00:09:27.050 --> 00:09:29.200
  • they felt pressured into having an abortion.
  • 00:09:29.210 --> 00:09:31.220
  • So, we're really providing for those women,
  • 00:09:31.230 --> 00:09:35.020
  • which is a significant number of abortion--
  • 00:09:35.030 --> 00:09:37.000
  • most of abortions that are happening.
  • 00:09:37.010 --> 00:09:38.280
  • Uh, 'cause most women don't want to have an abortion.
  • 00:09:38.290 --> 00:09:41.100
  • They want-- they want another way out.
  • 00:09:41.110 --> 00:09:43.160
  • Most of the people in the pro-life community,
  • 00:09:43.170 --> 00:09:46.240
  • they're heroes that-that are working
  • 00:09:46.250 --> 00:09:48.140
  • at these pregnancy centers and they actually have
  • 00:09:48.150 --> 00:09:51.020
  • -a heart of love and compassion. -Mm-hmm.
  • 00:09:51.030 --> 00:09:53.200
  • The sad thing is, is perhaps in the media
  • 00:09:53.210 --> 00:09:56.100
  • or something that's going on, it-it tell--
  • 00:09:56.110 --> 00:09:58.100
  • it shows a different narrative.
  • 00:09:58.110 --> 00:10:00.070
  • And-and that's another thing that I love,
  • 00:10:00.080 --> 00:10:01.270
  • is that, with so much fighting and arguing between,
  • 00:10:01.280 --> 00:10:05.010
  • you know, this political group and that political group
  • 00:10:05.020 --> 00:10:07.150
  • and, you know-- Or-or men versus women
  • 00:10:07.160 --> 00:10:09.190
  • and it's-- and it's like everybody's polarized,
  • 00:10:09.200 --> 00:10:11.240
  • you guys are positioning Save the Storks differently.
  • 00:10:11.250 --> 00:10:15.000
  • It's-- I mean, you have pro-life, you have pro-choice.
  • 00:10:15.010 --> 00:10:17.180
  • -But you're kind of talking about a third option. -Right.
  • 00:10:17.190 --> 00:10:21.020
  • People forget that abortion truly affects a woman
  • 00:10:21.030 --> 00:10:24.060
  • for the rest of her life.
  • 00:10:24.070 --> 00:10:26.060
  • Uh, we-we've heard some-- I know Joe has, too--
  • 00:10:26.070 --> 00:10:29.040
  • some stories after we finish speaking
  • 00:10:29.050 --> 00:10:32.020
  • about women that can't even hear a vacuum cleaner anymore,
  • 00:10:32.030 --> 00:10:36.020
  • because it-it takes them to a place
  • 00:10:36.030 --> 00:10:38.100
  • that they experienced in an abortion clinic.
  • 00:10:38.110 --> 00:10:40.230
  • And so there's a-- there's a lot
  • 00:10:40.240 --> 00:10:42.240
  • of, um... a lot of healing that needs to take place.
  • 00:10:42.250 --> 00:10:45.080
  • But we-we care about that woman
  • 00:10:45.090 --> 00:10:47.080
  • as much as we care about that baby, too.
  • 00:10:47.090 --> 00:10:49.100
  • And we work with these centers that offer counseling,
  • 00:10:49.110 --> 00:10:51.080
  • -classes, and discipleship... -Yep.
  • 00:10:51.090 --> 00:10:53.080
  • ...and-and connect her with the resources
  • 00:10:53.090 --> 00:10:54.280
  • in-in the city that she needs.
  • 00:10:54.290 --> 00:10:56.260
  • And so that's a big part of what we want to do.
  • 00:10:56.270 --> 00:11:00.050
  • A-And you connect her, um,
  • 00:11:00.060 --> 00:11:02.070
  • through the-the resource centers,
  • 00:11:02.080 --> 00:11:03.270
  • even with a community of faith...
  • 00:11:03.280 --> 00:11:05.120
  • -Absolutely. -that will be with her after her child is born,
  • 00:11:05.130 --> 00:11:07.160
  • with parenting classes or-or counseling for adoption.
  • 00:11:07.170 --> 00:11:10.100
  • -Yeah. Exactly. -Yes.
  • 00:11:10.110 --> 00:11:11.240
  • So, Joe mentioned the word "discipleship,"
  • 00:11:11.250 --> 00:11:13.240
  • and that was the word that he used when I first met him
  • 00:11:13.250 --> 00:11:16.240
  • that made me think, "I want to be a part of this, too."
  • 00:11:16.250 --> 00:11:19.240
  • Because it's not just justice for the sake of justice.
  • 00:11:19.250 --> 00:11:23.040
  • This is a gospel-centered ministry.
  • 00:11:23.050 --> 00:11:25.180
  • We want a-a young woman,
  • 00:11:25.190 --> 00:11:27.080
  • and perhaps her significant other,
  • 00:11:27.090 --> 00:11:29.080
  • to hear about Jesus and what he's done for them.
  • 00:11:29.090 --> 00:11:32.140
  • 'Cause Jesus wants to visit this girl in the same way
  • 00:11:32.150 --> 00:11:34.190
  • that he met the woman at the well
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  • or the woman caught in adultery
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  • and that was with grace and with truth.
  • 00:11:37.270 --> 00:11:39.200
  • -Mm. -That's what we-we really try to provide.
  • 00:11:39.210 --> 00:11:42.000
  • You see, the-the grace is in our approach,
  • 00:11:42.010 --> 00:11:44.050
  • in our own brokenness, in our own...
  • 00:11:44.060 --> 00:11:46.030
  • -That's right. -...sense of our need.
  • 00:11:46.040 --> 00:11:47.190
  • Because we all have sinned that we-- that we--
  • 00:11:47.200 --> 00:11:50.130
  • that has affected our relationship with God.
  • 00:11:50.140 --> 00:11:52.110
  • And so this girl is no different than what we are
  • 00:11:52.120 --> 00:11:55.090
  • and what we have been.
  • 00:11:55.100 --> 00:11:56.190
  • But the truth is in that ultrasound.
  • 00:11:56.200 --> 00:11:58.190
  • And when they see the truth, that's a game changer.
  • 00:11:58.200 --> 00:12:01.090
  • So, Jesus was full of grace and truth,
  • 00:12:01.100 --> 00:12:03.030
  • and that's what we-we try to do.
  • 00:12:03.040 --> 00:12:05.010
  • You know this is important to me, because, right,
  • 00:12:05.020 --> 00:12:06.110
  • -my wife is an adopted child. -Right.
  • 00:12:06.120 --> 00:12:08.050
  • Four of our six children were adopted.
  • 00:12:08.060 --> 00:12:10.190
  • I mean, they are those pre-born, uh, infants,
  • 00:12:10.200 --> 00:12:15.050
  • uh, in-in the womb,
  • 00:12:15.060 --> 00:12:16.290
  • and I am so thankful that someone came up
  • 00:12:17.000 --> 00:12:19.030
  • alongside those young mothers and said,
  • 00:12:19.040 --> 00:12:21.070
  • -"I'm with you. You're not alone." -PAUL: Right.
  • 00:12:21.080 --> 00:12:23.030
  • "You can do this. You have a miracle growing inside of you.
  • 00:12:23.040 --> 00:12:25.230
  • God loves you. And we're gonna-- we're gonna help you."
  • 00:12:25.240 --> 00:12:29.020
  • Uh, and it was, like, that's what they...
  • 00:12:29.030 --> 00:12:31.020
  • -what they wanted to do. -PAUL: Mm-hmm.
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  • And my whole family is here because of it,
  • 00:12:32.190 --> 00:12:34.090
  • including my natural-born kids, 'cause if Chelsea wasn't born,
  • 00:12:34.100 --> 00:12:36.210
  • Olivia and James wouldn't be here, either.
  • 00:12:36.220 --> 00:12:38.120
  • -PAUL: Yeah. Wow. -JOE: That's right.
  • 00:12:38.130 --> 00:12:39.160
  • So my entire family exists
  • 00:12:39.170 --> 00:12:40.280
  • -because of what you're doing... -PAUL: It's huge.
  • 00:12:40.290 --> 00:12:42.220
  • -PAUL: Yeah. -...to help these birth mothers.
  • 00:12:42.230 --> 00:12:44.060
  • -We love adoption at Save the Storks. -Yeah.
  • 00:12:44.070 --> 00:12:46.060
  • -Oh, my gosh. -We just absolutely love it.
  • 00:12:46.070 --> 00:12:48.050
  • And adoption is...
  • 00:12:48.060 --> 00:12:50.000
  • is really at the center of God's heart, I think.
  • 00:12:50.010 --> 00:12:52.050
  • -PAUL: Mm-hmm. -Right?
  • 00:12:52.060 --> 00:12:53.250
  • Because I think of how... what-what an amazing thing
  • 00:12:53.260 --> 00:12:56.020
  • -that He adopts us... -PAUL: Right.
  • 00:12:56.030 --> 00:12:57.140
  • ...into that heavenly family by faith, uh, uh, by choice.
  • 00:12:57.150 --> 00:13:02.040
  • -PAUL: Yeah. -And it... I...
  • 00:13:02.050 --> 00:13:04.140
  • Well, Kirk, God uses both illustrations in the Bible.
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  • He uses an-an-an issue of being born into the family of God.
  • 00:13:07.170 --> 00:13:10.190
  • -Mm. -But He also chooses
  • 00:13:10.200 --> 00:13:12.150
  • to use the message of adoption, as well.
  • 00:13:12.160 --> 00:13:14.110
  • We love to hear the stories back from our pregnancy centers.
  • 00:13:14.120 --> 00:13:17.080
  • Um, we want to shout those stories
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  • and-and let everyone hear those stories.
  • 00:13:19.230 --> 00:13:22.190
  • There was a couple that went in.
  • 00:13:22.200 --> 00:13:24.210
  • The young woman went in.
  • 00:13:24.220 --> 00:13:26.080
  • The young guy, her significant other, came out...
  • 00:13:26.090 --> 00:13:28.270
  • boyfriend came out for a smoke.
  • 00:13:28.280 --> 00:13:30.270
  • And he's-he's smoking, but he sees the Stork bus there,
  • 00:13:30.280 --> 00:13:34.030
  • walks over to find out a little bit about what's going on,
  • 00:13:34.040 --> 00:13:36.180
  • and they engage with him
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  • about what they do and why they're there.
  • 00:13:37.290 --> 00:13:39.250
  • That they're there to help girls have more choices,
  • 00:13:39.260 --> 00:13:43.050
  • you know, than just abortion
  • 00:13:43.060 --> 00:13:44.130
  • and-and, uh, they're providing these services.
  • 00:13:44.140 --> 00:13:46.040
  • Well, she came out in an armband.
  • 00:13:46.050 --> 00:13:48.140
  • They'd already put the armband on her,
  • 00:13:48.150 --> 00:13:50.040
  • they'd already taken her blood,
  • 00:13:50.050 --> 00:13:51.100
  • so she had a Band-Aid on with the...
  • 00:13:51.110 --> 00:13:53.060
  • with the cotton.
  • 00:13:53.070 --> 00:13:54.140
  • And so she comes out to get a smoke, as well,
  • 00:13:54.150 --> 00:13:56.130
  • sees her boyfriend over at the van and walks over.
  • 00:13:56.140 --> 00:13:58.190
  • And the boyfriend, along with those dear people
  • 00:13:58.200 --> 00:14:01.060
  • in Albuquerque, convince her, "Let's just get on here.
  • 00:14:01.070 --> 00:14:03.270
  • "We have nothing to lose.
  • 00:14:03.280 --> 00:14:05.090
  • Let's see an image of this baby and hear the heartbeat."
  • 00:14:05.100 --> 00:14:07.140
  • And she does, and when those two heard the heartbeat,
  • 00:14:07.150 --> 00:14:10.180
  • and they saw the ultrasound, they said, "We can't do this."
  • 00:14:10.190 --> 00:14:14.020
  • And she-she said, "Do you have some scissors?
  • 00:14:14.030 --> 00:14:16.140
  • I've got to take this-this armband off."
  • 00:14:16.150 --> 00:14:18.140
  • And they-they-they go... started scrambling.
  • 00:14:18.150 --> 00:14:21.050
  • They say, "Yeah, we'll-we'll get that."
  • 00:14:21.060 --> 00:14:22.190
  • And-and she couldn't wait for the scissors.
  • 00:14:22.200 --> 00:14:24.040
  • She ripped the armband off, and said,
  • 00:14:24.050 --> 00:14:26.070
  • "We're gonna keep this baby."
  • 00:14:26.080 --> 00:14:27.170
  • But the beauty of the story, to me, is even...
  • 00:14:27.180 --> 00:14:29.200
  • It gets better.
  • 00:14:29.210 --> 00:14:31.050
  • And that is both these young people heard the gospel
  • 00:14:31.060 --> 00:14:33.200
  • from our... those people at that pregnancy center in Albuquerque.
  • 00:14:33.210 --> 00:14:36.100
  • And they both received Jesus Christ as their savior.
  • 00:14:36.110 --> 00:14:38.270
  • -And to me, that's the... that's the biggest thing. -Mm.
  • 00:14:38.280 --> 00:14:41.080
  • The biggest need that we all have.
  • 00:14:41.090 --> 00:14:43.040
  • So what advice would you give to an expectant mother
  • 00:14:43.050 --> 00:14:46.200
  • who's feeling like, "This is not part of the plan?"
  • 00:14:46.210 --> 00:14:50.010
  • -Mm. -Right.
  • 00:14:50.020 --> 00:14:52.010
  • What do you... what do you... what do you say?
  • 00:14:52.020 --> 00:14:53.120
  • How do you meet a girl
  • 00:14:53.130 --> 00:14:54.180
  • in-in that moment of need like that?
  • 00:14:54.190 --> 00:14:56.100
  • We just help her see that her three options are
  • 00:14:56.110 --> 00:14:58.190
  • parenting, adoption and abortion.
  • 00:14:58.200 --> 00:15:01.060
  • And we want her to see how each of those is gonna impact her.
  • 00:15:01.070 --> 00:15:04.030
  • -Hmm. -And of those three,
  • 00:15:04.040 --> 00:15:06.090
  • the one that harms her the most is abortion.
  • 00:15:06.100 --> 00:15:09.150
  • It comes with lifelong pa... very painful consequences.
  • 00:15:09.160 --> 00:15:13.230
  • Um, and a lot of times we think that-that...
  • 00:15:13.240 --> 00:15:16.240
  • that abortion is-is a quick, easy way
  • 00:15:16.250 --> 00:15:19.000
  • to get rid of something, but it really isn't.
  • 00:15:19.010 --> 00:15:21.000
  • It's gonna come with a lot of pain and hardship for her.
  • 00:15:21.010 --> 00:15:24.260
  • And so we focus our counseling around her and her needs.
  • 00:15:24.270 --> 00:15:28.110
  • And, uh, we've found that that's a really successful way
  • 00:15:28.120 --> 00:15:31.210
  • of leading a woman to the truth.
  • 00:15:31.220 --> 00:15:34.010
  • That parenting or adoption are far superior choices
  • 00:15:34.020 --> 00:15:37.210
  • than abortion.
  • 00:15:37.220 --> 00:15:39.010
  • Would you have any words of advice to anyone
  • 00:15:39.020 --> 00:15:40.280
  • who might be watching that's saying,
  • 00:15:40.290 --> 00:15:42.110
  • "Wow. How can I best help my-my daughter or-or my son
  • 00:15:42.120 --> 00:15:47.010
  • "whose girlfriend is now in this situation?
  • 00:15:47.020 --> 00:15:48.200
  • We didn't expect this."
  • 00:15:48.210 --> 00:15:50.080
  • Yeah, uh, a lot of times people, they-they just need a reality,
  • 00:15:50.090 --> 00:15:54.100
  • some-someone to come in and say, "This is real.
  • 00:15:54.110 --> 00:15:56.290
  • "You're a mom now, you're gonna have a baby,
  • 00:15:57.000 --> 00:16:00.050
  • "and everyone is gonna love you and love that baby
  • 00:16:00.060 --> 00:16:02.220
  • "when the baby comes.
  • 00:16:02.230 --> 00:16:04.260
  • "There's not one person in your life
  • 00:16:04.270 --> 00:16:06.150
  • -who's gonna reject that baby when the baby comes." -Mm.
  • 00:16:06.160 --> 00:16:09.050
  • This isn't just about the bus and the ultrasound machine
  • 00:16:09.060 --> 00:16:11.260
  • and then, you know,
  • 00:16:11.270 --> 00:16:13.120
  • she-she walks away, and she decides, "Okay. I'm gonna...
  • 00:16:13.130 --> 00:16:16.130
  • This is... this is the choice I'm gonna make."
  • 00:16:16.140 --> 00:16:18.110
  • Tell me about the ongoing services.
  • 00:16:18.120 --> 00:16:19.280
  • What happens even after--
  • 00:16:19.290 --> 00:16:21.050
  • through the nine months and even after that?
  • 00:16:21.060 --> 00:16:23.090
  • Yeah, I mean, at the center I was recently talking to, they...
  • 00:16:23.100 --> 00:16:25.180
  • I think they do five or six years' worth of clothing,
  • 00:16:25.190 --> 00:16:28.100
  • where you can come to the center, and it's like,
  • 00:16:28.110 --> 00:16:31.280
  • they have brand-new clothing based on ages.
  • 00:16:31.290 --> 00:16:34.170
  • You can come in and get clothing for them.
  • 00:16:34.180 --> 00:16:36.250
  • And it's-it's ongoing classes and-and all sorts of classes.
  • 00:16:36.260 --> 00:16:41.240
  • Some of the girls who are women
  • 00:16:41.250 --> 00:16:43.190
  • that come aboard the bus, make a decision for life, they don't...
  • 00:16:43.200 --> 00:16:46.040
  • They've never even had someone teach them
  • 00:16:46.050 --> 00:16:47.150
  • how to balance a check... checkbook.
  • 00:16:47.160 --> 00:16:49.130
  • They don't have a-a father figure in their life
  • 00:16:49.140 --> 00:16:51.240
  • to teach them things like that.
  • 00:16:51.250 --> 00:16:53.140
  • And so, we're teaching basic things.
  • 00:16:53.150 --> 00:16:55.090
  • You know, how to cook a meal, um, and how to be a mom, and
  • 00:16:55.100 --> 00:16:59.080
  • it's-it's that, like, touching, that-that intimate friendship
  • 00:16:59.090 --> 00:17:03.250
  • -that's... that happens with these centers... -Mm. Mm.
  • 00:17:03.260 --> 00:17:06.020
  • ...that really leads someone not just,
  • 00:17:06.030 --> 00:17:08.030
  • um... not just away from a harsh lifestyle,
  • 00:17:08.040 --> 00:17:11.170
  • -but actually out of poverty. -Yeah.
  • 00:17:11.180 --> 00:17:13.200
  • And, and into a life of flourishing,
  • 00:17:13.210 --> 00:17:17.020
  • where they begin to, you know, develop a real spiritual life.
  • 00:17:17.030 --> 00:17:20.120
  • Want... They want to...
  • 00:17:20.130 --> 00:17:21.190
  • They want to serve the Lord with their life.
  • 00:17:21.200 --> 00:17:23.240
  • Joe, if you could give advice
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  • to the 20-year-old version of yourself...
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  • (chuckles)
  • 00:17:29.010 --> 00:17:30.100
  • ...what would... what would you say?
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  • I'd want the 20-year-old version of me to go and work for free
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  • for somebody who... like you.
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  • For somebody in their 40s or 50s
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  • who's really already been very successful.
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  • Why would you tell yourself that?
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  • 'Cause I'm an entrepreneur, and I think
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  • there would have been just tremendous value in...
  • 00:17:46.210 --> 00:17:49.250
  • I mean, I-I've made a lot of mistakes in building things.
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  • And, man, I could've learned a lot of these lessons.
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  • And now, I'm actually in the place in my life
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  • where I'm actually thinking,
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  • "I could help a lot of people not learn these lessons
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  • that I've learned." You know?
  • 00:18:01.080 --> 00:18:03.050
  • I don't know if you'd ever learn much from hanging out with me,
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  • working for me for free... -(laughs)
  • 00:18:05.060 --> 00:18:06.110
  • But, uh, but... I-I hear what you're saying.
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  • -PAUL: You could use some help. -That's a great idea.
  • 00:18:07.230 --> 00:18:09.050
  • -I could mow the lawn, I... -Yeah.
  • 00:18:09.060 --> 00:18:10.270
  • How about you? What do you think, Paul?
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  • I would probably, at-at 20 years old,
  • 00:18:12.010 --> 00:18:14.050
  • I would say to myself or... I would say,
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  • "Don't try to figure out your life at 20."
  • 00:18:17.190 --> 00:18:20.190
  • I thought at-at-at 20,
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  • "I better know what I'm gonna do that day I get that diploma."
  • 00:18:22.290 --> 00:18:25.170
  • -KIRK: Yeah. -"Because if I don't,
  • 00:18:25.180 --> 00:18:27.100
  • you know, if I don't have my life all mapped out..."
  • 00:18:27.110 --> 00:18:30.060
  • -That's good advice. -"...what am I gonna do?"
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  • Don't worry about that!
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  • You don't have to have your life mapped out.
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  • Just do what you're supposed to do that day.
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  • All right, you guys up for a little adventure?
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  • -Heck, yeah. -Oh, yes. -I got a high-risk situation
  • 00:18:40.140 --> 00:18:41.290
  • that I'd like to put you in.
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  • -JOE: I'm game, let's do it. -You-you took me
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  • to the top of Garden of the Gods in Colorado.
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  • And, uh, I'm ready to take you somewhere in California.
  • 00:18:47.210 --> 00:18:50.200
  • -Ready? -Sounds good. -All right, let's go.
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  • -I like it, I like it. -All right. -Come on.
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  • 00:18:55.130 --> 00:18:55.140
  • 00:18:55.140 --> 00:18:55.150
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  • PAUL: Now let me throw this one out at you, Kirk.
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  • KIRK: Yeah.
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  • PAUL: Um, how old do you think
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  • Isaac was when he was offered as a sacrifice
  • 00:19:10.270 --> 00:19:12.290
  • when Abraham was...
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  • Well, he had to be younger than a teenager,
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  • because if-if he was a teenager,
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  • it wouldn't have been a sacrifice.
  • 00:19:21.260 --> 00:19:24.020
  • -I'm just kidding. Just a little joke. -(laughs)
  • 00:19:24.030 --> 00:19:27.050
  • I was trying to figure that one out.
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  • It was a joke. It was a te...
  • 00:19:29.070 --> 00:19:30.140
  • It was a joke about the frustration
  • 00:19:30.150 --> 00:19:32.070
  • -of teenagers. -PAUL: Ah.
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  • KIRK: If he was a teenager,
  • 00:19:33.200 --> 00:19:35.070
  • -it wouldn't have been a sacrifice. -PAUL: Yeah.
  • 00:19:35.080 --> 00:19:36.150
  • That's good, that's good.
  • 00:19:36.160 --> 00:19:37.200
  • -Hey, how's it going, guys? -MAN: Hey, guys.
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  • -Hey, I'm Kirk. Bud? -PAUL: Hey, how you doing?
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  • Bud. This is DJ.
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  • -Hey, DJ. Nice to meet you. -Paul?
  • 00:19:50.270 --> 00:19:52.120
  • -Nice to meet you. -Thank you. -How you doing?
  • 00:19:52.130 --> 00:19:53.240
  • So, we're-we're here for a little competition.
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  • We're seeing who's got
  • 00:19:54.270 --> 00:19:56.060
  • the best Spidey skills.
  • 00:19:56.070 --> 00:19:57.060
  • -Okay. -Whoosh. Up to the top.
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  • You know, winner takes all.
  • 00:19:58.210 --> 00:20:00.070
  • -All right. -Winner takes all.
  • 00:20:00.080 --> 00:20:01.220
  • -He brings his own harness. -Okay?
  • 00:20:01.230 --> 00:20:03.070
  • You know what, I'm gonna let you do the...
  • 00:20:03.080 --> 00:20:04.110
  • He's always prepared.
  • 00:20:04.120 --> 00:20:06.110
  • -These go under your legs. -I already had it with me, Kirk.
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  • You never know.
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  • DJ: There we are.
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  • You're all set.
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  • These are not all that comfortable.
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  • You don't look comfortable, Paul.
  • 00:20:16.230 --> 00:20:18.120
  • (laughs)
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  • Man was not meant to live like this.
  • 00:20:19.270 --> 00:20:21.150
  • -(Kirk laughs) -So, what's the...
  • 00:20:21.160 --> 00:20:23.170
  • what's the race? Are-are...
  • 00:20:23.180 --> 00:20:24.260
  • We're not going up to race and coming down?
  • 00:20:24.270 --> 00:20:26.220
  • But you're gonna be staring at me
  • 00:20:26.230 --> 00:20:27.240
  • because I'm gonna be right above you.
  • 00:20:27.250 --> 00:20:29.060
  • -(laughs) -You're gonna be staring at my backside.
  • 00:20:29.070 --> 00:20:30.290
  • I don't care. I just want to look
  • 00:20:31.000 --> 00:20:32.090
  • -at that right there. -(laughter)
  • 00:20:32.100 --> 00:20:35.170
  • -I'm just gonna go. -JOE: Yeah.
  • 00:20:35.180 --> 00:20:37.180
  • -Look at that. -So...
  • 00:20:51.080 --> 00:20:52.260
  • Like a pro. I told you I've been practicing.
  • 00:20:52.270 --> 00:20:55.030
  • You did great, man.
  • 00:20:55.040 --> 00:20:57.050
  • All right.
  • 00:20:57.060 --> 00:20:58.160
  • Hey, Paul!
  • 00:20:58.170 --> 00:20:59.260
  • PAUL: Hey, Kirk, what was that you said where...
  • 00:20:59.270 --> 00:21:01.140
  • -KIRK: Wait. Y-Yeah. -...where you were gonna be
  • 00:21:01.150 --> 00:21:03.270
  • -and where I was gonna be? -This is not a good view.
  • 00:21:03.280 --> 00:21:06.270
  • Now, listen, what am I supposed to do now?
  • 00:21:06.280 --> 00:21:09.080
  • You hold this like this and-and sit-sit...
  • 00:21:09.090 --> 00:21:12.200
  • PAUL: I don't really want to do that now.
  • 00:21:12.210 --> 00:21:13.260
  • -Sit down. -Hold-hold the plastic
  • 00:21:13.270 --> 00:21:16.040
  • with two hands.
  • 00:21:16.050 --> 00:21:17.060
  • PAUL: I don't want to do that.
  • 00:21:17.070 --> 00:21:18.130
  • -(chuckles) -BUD: It's a matter of trust.
  • 00:21:18.140 --> 00:21:20.090
  • -I don't think you got a choice. -JOE: I mean, you can stay up.
  • 00:21:20.100 --> 00:21:22.170
  • Literally, I can't sit. When I let go,
  • 00:21:22.180 --> 00:21:23.270
  • -what's gonna happen? -BUD: Trust.
  • 00:21:23.280 --> 00:21:25.280
  • -You're gonna float. You ever see Mary Poppins? -It's...
  • 00:21:25.290 --> 00:21:28.000
  • -Hey, buddy. -Just put her there.
  • 00:21:28.010 --> 00:21:29.260
  • (whoops)
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  • -There you go. -Float.
  • 00:21:31.190 --> 00:21:33.180
  • Nice!
  • 00:21:33.190 --> 00:21:35.030
  • (laughs)
  • 00:21:35.040 --> 00:21:37.160
  • -That was not good. -Way to go!
  • 00:21:37.170 --> 00:21:40.000
  • -And look at this guy. Look at this guy. -(whoops)
  • 00:21:40.010 --> 00:21:41.280
  • With the one toe.
  • 00:21:41.290 --> 00:21:43.290
  • You looked pretty... you looked pretty good going up.
  • 00:21:44.000 --> 00:21:45.160
  • I'm fine going up. It's that letting go.
  • 00:21:45.170 --> 00:21:47.260
  • It's all about letting go, Paul. It's all about letting go.
  • 00:21:47.270 --> 00:21:51.040
  • Are there some dolphins over there?
  • 00:21:51.050 --> 00:21:52.190
  • -Yeah. Yeah. -Are those dolphins?
  • 00:21:52.200 --> 00:21:55.180
  • -This isn't a race, right? We're just... -I'm going to look
  • 00:21:59.170 --> 00:22:01.060
  • at some dolphins from up high.
  • 00:22:01.070 --> 00:22:03.290
  • -You're stepping on my hand! -(laughter)
  • 00:22:04.000 --> 00:22:06.120
  • What's he doing?
  • 00:22:06.130 --> 00:22:07.210
  • -PAUL: He's stepping on my finger! -Oh!
  • 00:22:07.220 --> 00:22:10.050
  • That's a cheap move, right there.
  • 00:22:10.060 --> 00:22:12.100
  • -Cheaters don't win. -JOE: Yeah, but whoever's on the top
  • 00:22:12.110 --> 00:22:14.110
  • steps on everybody else's finger.
  • 00:22:14.120 --> 00:22:15.230
  • -I thought that was the... -That's how it works?
  • 00:22:15.240 --> 00:22:18.070
  • That's survival of the fittest, man.
  • 00:22:18.080 --> 00:22:20.200
  • -Hey! -We did it.
  • 00:22:20.210 --> 00:22:21.280
  • Okay, now.
  • 00:22:22.290 --> 00:22:25.110
  • You got it, Paul! You got it, Paul!
  • 00:22:25.120 --> 00:22:27.010
  • (chuckles) You can do it.
  • 00:22:27.020 --> 00:22:29.010
  • How will they get us down?
  • 00:22:29.020 --> 00:22:31.090
  • One, two, three.
  • 00:22:31.100 --> 00:22:32.260
  • (Paul screams)
  • 00:22:32.270 --> 00:22:34.010
  • -(whoops) -I want to do the one foot
  • 00:22:34.020 --> 00:22:35.210
  • -with the one toe like Joe. -(laughs)
  • 00:22:35.220 --> 00:22:37.090
  • Nice!
  • 00:22:39.110 --> 00:22:40.230
  • -(laughs): On your marks... -(laughs)
  • 00:22:46.040 --> 00:22:48.080
  • ...get set, go!
  • 00:22:48.090 --> 00:22:50.090
  • Take it slow.
  • 00:22:51.150 --> 00:22:53.100
  • All right.
  • 00:22:53.110 --> 00:22:54.290
  • We can do this.
  • 00:22:55.000 --> 00:22:57.100
  • -There's, like, loose holds over here. -All right.
  • 00:22:58.240 --> 00:23:01.070
  • Come on. Come on.
  • 00:23:01.080 --> 00:23:03.110
  • We got this. All right, we got this.
  • 00:23:03.120 --> 00:23:05.210
  • -We got this. We got this. -(laughs)
  • 00:23:05.220 --> 00:23:07.160
  • Holy cow!
  • 00:23:07.170 --> 00:23:09.210
  • -(laughs) -Ah! Oh!
  • 00:23:09.220 --> 00:23:12.000
  • -Oh, Paul, that was your... -(Joe whoops)
  • 00:23:12.010 --> 00:23:14.100
  • That was your chance, Paul.
  • 00:23:14.110 --> 00:23:15.180
  • -JOE: Yeah! -That was your chance.
  • 00:23:15.190 --> 00:23:16.200
  • (laughs)
  • 00:23:16.210 --> 00:23:18.250
  • That was your chance. All right, I'm gonna go back up.
  • 00:23:18.260 --> 00:23:21.060
  • -I got to beat Paul. -JOE: That was awesome.
  • 00:23:21.070 --> 00:23:22.170
  • -PAUL: Fight! -I got to beat Paul.
  • 00:23:22.180 --> 00:23:24.170
  • I can't find a hold.
  • 00:23:28.080 --> 00:23:31.080
  • (Paul screams)
  • 00:23:39.110 --> 00:23:42.000
  • (laughs)
  • 00:23:44.110 --> 00:23:46.280
  • You had your full weight on me.
  • 00:23:48.290 --> 00:23:51.210
  • -(laughs) -Nice work, guys.
  • 00:23:51.220 --> 00:23:53.290
  • We had that worked out,
  • 00:23:54.000 --> 00:23:55.070
  • but it didn't quite go completely as planned.
  • 00:23:55.080 --> 00:23:57.010
  • -I did it. -He got up faster than I thought he would.
  • 00:23:57.020 --> 00:23:58.250
  • -Yeah, I trying to hold him down, too. -I was like,
  • 00:23:58.260 --> 00:24:00.180
  • "Wait a second, all I can grab is his ankle."
  • 00:24:00.190 --> 00:24:02.200
  • I've never heard a story
  • 00:24:18.140 --> 00:24:19.220
  • of someone who made a decision for life,
  • 00:24:19.230 --> 00:24:21.240
  • chose to have a baby,
  • 00:24:21.250 --> 00:24:23.190
  • and then later on said they regretted it.
  • 00:24:23.200 --> 00:24:26.080