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- [Announcer] Tonight on Praise.
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From Colorado, SeniorPastor of Crossroads Church,
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author and podcasthost, Brian Tome.
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And now Matt and Laurie Crouch.
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- Today from Southern Colorado
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and it's a beautiful evening.
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Brian Tome, what doyou wanna talk about
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amongst this time thatwe're going to sit?
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- I wanna talk about a word
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that's not in the Bible,
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but as in every storyof faith in the Bible,
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it's the word aggression.
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It's the key thing to getyour life to a new place.
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- Okay.
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- Love it.
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I'm so excited...
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- You think you love it,
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you haven't heard whatI'm gonna say yet,
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maybe you don't love it.
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- I think I have a clue
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because everything youkinda say is kinda awesome.
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How did you even get thiswhole thing out of the Bible?
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- Well, so I was lookingat people who are heroes...
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You look at everybody whois a hero in the Bible
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who we admire.
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Is there not for their beliefs,
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they're there becauseof what they've done
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what they'veaggressively chosen to do
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whether it's Davidtaking down Goliath,
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Rahab letting thespies into Jericho,
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Peter stepping out of the boat.
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These are great stories of faith
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and you want more in your life.
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If you want more ofGod in your life,
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more of anything He brings you,
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you have to step outand start making moves.
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- Brian, we're in a pandemic.
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We have just kind of comethrough a lot of racial tension.
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We've come througha political season,
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you might've noticed.
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And we're talkingabout a year 2020,
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that will end upbecoming a verb.
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Okay, it will be I'm sorry,you were just 2020ed.
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Okay, so when you'retalking about aggression
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or aggressive life orsomething like that,
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some people might think that,
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"Wait a second, Ijust wanna make it.
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I don't wanna beaggressive about anything.
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There are people on thestreets being aggressive,
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there's this, there's that."
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What are we actuallytalking about?
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Breakdown and startthe sermon here
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because that's whatreally needs to happen.
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- Yeah, we're not talking about
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taking advantageof somebody, Matt.
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We're not talking aboutdoing something physically,
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somebody they shouldn'thave happened.
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We're not talkingabout police officers
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in those relativelyfew number of instances
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being physically difficult
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towards somebody who hasdifferent skin tone in them.
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By the way, I don'tthink we've come
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out of racialproblems with 2020.
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It's just shined a lightthat we have racial problems
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in 2020.
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So it's not that I need tophysically power up on somebody.
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It's that 2020 hassmacked us all down.
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So what's my response to that.
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I just sit back and waitfor it to get better.
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Or do I say, "God, what doesHe want me to actually do?"
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Cause there'ssomething we can all do
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to get our life to a new place.
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- So we need to framethis whole thing.
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And I think whatyou started to do
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at the dinner table a while ago
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is start talking aboutDavid, a hero of the faith.
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But you were really kind ofstarting this whole thing
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with a personal testimony.
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So what's happenedto you in 2020
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and what is yourdynamic right now?
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- 2020 has beenawful for me, awful.
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I had problems beforeI came in to 2020.
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Most of us had problemsthat came in 2020.
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And then you layonto that pandemic,
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you lay on to thatracial tension.
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We have a church that hasa high percentage of people
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who don't have askin tone as me.
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It's very difficult for themand for our whole church.
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You lay on top of thateconomic uncertainty,
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you lay on to all the stuff
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that was already difficultin my life already.
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So I find myself being a pretty,self-motivated go getter,
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just getting beat down.
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Like my job, a big pieceof my job, my day job
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is pastoring the churchthat I started 25 years ago.
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And I love to be aroundpeople, I love to see people,
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I love to look at a crowdand see them come alive.
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And all of a sudden,bam, that's gone!
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Everything, shut down, bam!
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10 campuses, peoplecoming, that's all gone.
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And now I'm juststaring at zoom all day.
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Which I think we all now have
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a new understanding ofwhat hell is, right?
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I know the Bible says thathell is flames and darkness,
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but Zoom's got gottabe in there too.
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It's gotta be a zoom call aswell, it's just my goodness!
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And then I just foundmyself at the beginning,
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I'm just waitingfor it to get over.
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I'm waiting for 2020.
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I'm waiting to get back...
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And I found myself on myfirst low grade depression
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I've ever had in my life.
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- [Matt] Okay.
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- The NationalInstitute of Health says
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many men manifest depressionwith irritability, check.
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Anger, check.
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Lack of sleep, check.
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Lack of interest in yourprevious hobbies, check.
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This goes and it's like,
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"Oh my gosh, this is myfirst bout of depression."
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And I realize, Ican't just sit around
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and wait for this to get better,
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I've got to startdoing some new things.
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And I would say I'm outof it, Matt and Laurie,
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I would say, but I'mgetting out of it
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because I'm tryingto take action.
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Not just waiting forsomething better to happen.
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- [Laurie] Right?
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So you have this really kind of
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high-energy aggressive thing.
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You like to go on motorcyclerides and the camping
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and kind of men'sretreats kind of stuff.
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So now you're talking aboutCOVID really changing something.
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Okay, you're one of maybemillions that have experienced,
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what happened?
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What was that about?
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What happened?
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What did this season do to us?
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And how are wegonna get out of it?
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- Well, there's theold line, right?
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"If you wanna make Godlaugh, tell Him your plans."
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- [Laurie] Right (laughs).
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- I had all kindsof plans for 2020.
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Most of us did and justboom, they're gone.
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So part of the goodthing for me with 2020 is
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it's helped me be more humble.
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All of us are more humble.
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We realize we're not as incontrol as we think we are.
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- How are you getting...
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What steps are you taking to get
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out of this mild depression?
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- So the first thing I did,
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is just gave myself grace.
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If I find somebodyelse is in depression,
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I give them grace, even thoughI had never had it before.
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So this one I'm going,"All right, Brian, relax,
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you have a mild depression here.
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Just don't be sohard on yourself."
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And now that I know what it is,
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let's be extra sensitive tothings I'm doing and not doing.
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I don't feel like working out.
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I used to have a greatworkout schedule.
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I haven't felt likework working out.
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Now I realize I'vegot to do something
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to get my chemistryup and going.
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My sleep is all thatmuch more important.
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I've got to make sureI'm not on my phone,
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dealing with something that'sstimulating before I go to bed
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because I've gotto get my sleep.
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People, I gottabe around people.
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However it is,
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I don't care if I got toget inside of a space suit
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and COVID stuff around them.
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That's part of mything, I'm an extrovert.
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And if I'm not aroundpeople, I can't feel...
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I can't laugh.
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So I made sure thatI was in situations
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where I could be aroundgood, trusted friends.
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It's just takingcontrol of your life.
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Not waiting for it to end.
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- Right.
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- But saying, "What can I do?"
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- Right, instead ofsomething controlling you,
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you are controlling it.
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- Yes, I do notwanna be a victim.
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2020 would love tovictimize all of us,
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but I do not wannabe a victim to it,
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there's something I can do.
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- So that has madeyou aggressive?
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- Yes.
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- So now, okay.
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- It's holy to want more, issomething you said earlier.
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What do you mean by that?
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And by the way,start talking now
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and stop about 30minutes from now.
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By the way, let me just say,
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if you just tuned in, we arehere in Southern Colorado.
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We're all together.
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Brian Tome, thank youfor being with us.
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Crossroads church,Cincinnati, Ohio
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and a new programmer on TBM.
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So welcome to the network, sir.
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This is time where ifyou were in your pulpit,
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you would say openyour Bible to...
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And you're declaring,it is holy to want more.
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What does that mean?
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- Okay 2 Samuel 6,
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is one of the favorite topicsand sermons for pastors.
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It starts at a veryinteresting place,
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where David has been waiting...
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By the way, you can be veryaggressive and waiting.
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The Bible talks aboutwaiting on the Lord.
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We wait on the Lord whenwe've done what we can
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and now I can't do anything.
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When you have a diagnosisand medicine says
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there's nothing that can happen.
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You're in a place ofwaiting on the Lord.
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We all have to wait in the Lord,
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But that doesn't mean
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we shouldn't do somethingup to that point.
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David's been waiting on theLord because Saul has been King
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and he's waiting for Saul topass on till he becomes King.
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Saul finally does pass on.
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And in 2 Samuel 6
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is a really intriguingthing there of
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David gets to basicallyget a perk of being a King.
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Like I wonder if our listeners,
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if they ever got to bethe CEO of their company
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or wherever they are,
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what would they do thefirst day of being CEO?
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Or what would I do if Ibecame president United States
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which I never wanna be,
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and you definitely don'twanna be president.
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I promise you that youdefinitely do not want...
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But I'll tell you what if I was,
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if I ever was the presidentof the United States,
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the first day I'mtaking up Air Force One
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and I'm telling the pilot todo barrel rolls with the plane.
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I would just wantto do that, right?
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If I ever become CEOof BMW motorcycle,
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I'm gonna have thoseGerman engineers
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create the perfect motorcyclemotorcycle to spec for me
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even if it can't sell.
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David does that.
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He says: Gosh, I'm Kingnow, what am I gonna do?
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I got it.
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The Ark of the Covenant.
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That thing thatwould go for battle.
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I haven't seen that,where is that thing?
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Bringing it out of storage.
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And he gets 30.000 troops tojust march this thing around.
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It's basically a showof military force
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and him just havingfun with his new toys.
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That's where the story goes.
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Many of us know that it's goton the back of this oxen cart
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and it tips over and Uzzahgoes and he stops it.
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He keeps it from hitting theground and then God kills him.
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It says there,
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that David was angry.
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He's instinctually going,God, how could you do this?
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He's trying to keep theArk from getting dirty.
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And then he's afraid.
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And I believe he's afraidbecause he remembers
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that the reason Saul wasdisqualified from the kingship,
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is that Saul didthe priest's job
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when it should have been Samuel.
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- Got it.
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- Saul offered the sacrificebefore they went into battle.
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And Samuel said, "That'sit, your run's done.
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You're not gonna beKing much longer."
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David I think realizesand goes, "Oh my gosh...
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Oh my gosh, what just happened?
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I just did the samething that Saul did."
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The priest should havebeen doing this thing
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with the cart.
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It wasn't that Uzzahwas the poor sap
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that just got the anger of God.
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First of all, the parading...
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The holy vessels justto have a parade.
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The priests aren'ttaking on carrying it.
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That's not what the...
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It's like thing afterthing after thing.
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And God says: I canstand it no more...
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And Uzzah gets killed.
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So then what David does,
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is he basically doesa blackjack dealer
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at the end of his shift.
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He goes, "I'm done.
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Get this, get thisaway from me."
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And he drops it off and he says,
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"Who's the closestguy around us?"
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Obed-edom the Gittite.
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He goes "Oh, Obed-Edomthe Gittite."
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Sorry he has that name he has.
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It's a tough name.
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Let's just drop there.
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So he goes and hedrops it off there.
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And he heads backto where he lives.
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And there's a very simplebenign phrase, it says,
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"And the Lord blessed the houseof Obed-Edom the Gettite."
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I find this fascinating.
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Sometimes the Bibleis specifically vague.
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When the apostle Paul sayshe has a thorn in the flesh
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we don't know what it is.
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And since we don'tknow what it is,
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all of us can identifywith that verse.
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It's something thatyou can't get over.
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It is something you'rewaiting on the Lord for
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because you can't do it.
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It's your Stage IV cancer.
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My thorn in the flesh is,
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my child who is gone andhe won't come back home.
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My thorn in the fleshis, my mother-in-law.
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My thorn in theflesh is my bad back.
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My thorn in the flesh is...
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But because we don't know whathis thorn in the flesh is,
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we could all go, "Oh,I got one of those.
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I got something Ican't get over."
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When he says Obed theGettite was blessed,
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we can all go, "Whatwould it mean?"
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If we said that the LordGod blessed Matt and Laurie,
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what just pops to your mind?
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What might that look like?
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- Grandchildren.
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New phase in life.
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We don't have any grandkids.
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- Yeah, that'd beamazing, what else?
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Come on Laurie, you'vegot something here.
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- I know, I'm thinking.
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- Come on, more ofthose amazing...
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- That's like, yes,I'm stuck on grandkids.
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- That's okay,grandchildren, amazing.
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We got two and we'dlove more as well.
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Maybe, Obed-Edom the Gittite,
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maybe that was his blessing.
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Maybe he got grandchildren.
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Couldn't have grandchildren.
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Maybe he had a child that was...
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Had run away and thechild came back that week.
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Maybe neighbors heard constantfighting inside the family
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and now they'rehearing laughter.
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Maybe he went and walked outside
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and he tripped overa golden nugget
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and found out he wason top of a goldmine.
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Maybe there was perfectweather patterns
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over top of his property.
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And their crop just took off.
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Maybe his wife had a massivewater nose and dropped off.
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Maybe this is a lonely guy,didn't have any friends
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and all of a sudden hehas friends coming over.
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Maybe, I could goon and on and on.
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But whatever it was,it gets back to David.
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And David says,
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"Whoa, that guy who hasthe Ark of the Covenant,
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why just pawned it off,
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cause I don't wantanything bad--
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- [Matt] Cause Iwas afraid of it.
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- I was afraid of it.
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Now this thing isbringing him blessing.
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And so David went to retrievethe Ark of the Covenant.
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I think this is reallymeaningful for us.
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This is when Davidis at his best.
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It's when he is aggressive.
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It's when he goes.
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It's when all everyoneelse is passive
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and they don't wannago fight Goliath.
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David sees him and he says,
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"Who is thisuncircumcised Philistine?"
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He goes against him.
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He actually runsagainst Goliath.
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David is the one that they say,
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"Saul kills his thousands,
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David kills histens of thousands."
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He's mighty running into battleagain and again, and again.
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He's aggressive.
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He says, "Let'sbuild the temple."
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God says, "No, we're gonnakeep that for Solomon."
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But again, David is on the...
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David's going,"Whoa, Whoa, Whoa!"
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There's blessing, I want it.
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So he goes and gets...
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My question for us is,"Do you want more?"
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Many of us are justafraid of more.
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We're afraid of what would itbe like if God gave us more?
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I'm not talking about moremoney, but maybe more money,
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maybe it is.
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In the Bible,
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there are things thatlook like contradictions.
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They're not contradictions,
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they're just showing usthe full breadth of truth.
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Truths in the Bibleexists with intention.
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God is one and God is triune.
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God tells us to walk by faith,we're justified by faith.
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And yet if we don't haveany works, we have no faith.
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God is sovereign,God's in control.
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And yet I am to steward my lifeand take control of my life.
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So what is?
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Your one- three,is it faith, works?
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Is it God control me.
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Well, yes.
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Yes, that's the tension.
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Here's another one.
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I'm supposed to be contentin every circumstance,
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and yet I'm theone to be blessed.
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I'm to be content inevery circumstance,
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and yet I am to go afterthings that could benefit me.
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One of the sermons thatpeople don't talk about
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is when David goesbefore Goliath he asks,
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"What will be done for theman who takes down Goliath?"
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Cause he wants more.
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As an early pointlife, he wants more
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and he's not asqualified for that.
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And preachers whenthey talk about
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this chapter of scripture.
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We oftentimes stop with Uzzah.
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There you go!
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Don't touch it oryou'll fall off,
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or you'll die orsomething like that.
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Uzzah, don't touch it.
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Cause us preachers,
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the easiest sermonsfor us to give
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are the condemnation ones.
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The easiest sermonsfor us to give are
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that you can't dothat, don't drink that,
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don't touch that,don't go there.
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Just rules and anger and Godstill smites kind of sermons,
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which He does by theway, He does still smite.
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But those kinds ofthings being as a pastor
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are incredibly easy to give.
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I can fall on a bed easily,
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it makes someone feel poorly.
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But that was just a setupto David wanting more.
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Maybe it is that our lifeis not going forward,
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because we reallydon't want more.
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Maybe we're in the positionwe're in with our country
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because those ofus who have faith
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are content to justlet things unfold
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and just wait forthings to go better
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instead of wanting more.
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David goes to get(indistinct) fascinating.
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He goes and he gets theArk of the Covenant.
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This time he doesit by the book.
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He's got priests, hegot everything going on
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and they start walkingone, two taking steps.
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Four, five, six is stuck, stop!
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Six steps, stop!
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We're gonna have a worshipservice here right now.
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Brings in cattle andthey slaughter andgive it to the Lord,
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the worship service.
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And everyone, okay good.
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Hey, let's do it again.
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Let's just keep going.
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One, two, six steps,stop right here!
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Stop worship service right here.
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It's like you told me earlier,
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I didn't even know theexact length of distance.
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How long do you think it was--
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- About five miles, yeah.
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- Five miles--
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- Modern day Abu Ghosh,
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Just right on in betweenTel Aviv and Jerusalem
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is where the historic spotthat you're talking about,
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where the Ark was restedthere for that length of time,
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20 years.
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- So five miles,every six steps.
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- Can you imagine?
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- He takes--
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- Has a worship serviceup and down the hills--
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- He sacrifices ananimal and he has a...
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I think he's...
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At this point,
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he's aggressively wanting togive God worship and praise.
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He's like, "God, I don't wannascrew this up, I'm gonna..."
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In the Bible nowhere says
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you should do a sixstep worship service...
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He aggressively goes overboard.
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He's like, I just wannamake sure I get this right.
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I wish we had that attitudeof worship in churches.
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I think we're hopefully pastthe days of criticizing people
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who raise their hands andworship and all that stuff.
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Most people are againstor our past that.
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We need to be...
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In our worship weneed to be aggressive.
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In our times of prayer,we need to be aggressive.
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You know why prayermeetings are so boring?
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Because everyone justgoes passive on them.
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You can't have a prayermeeting that's stimulating
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if everyone just sits there
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and just is silent.
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You gotta be walking,you gotta be excited.
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We did some workin South Africa.
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We've come to know thispraying in South African style.
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Where the whole churchprays simultaneously.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Let me jump in and ask
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and make sure I'mtracking correctly.
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You're talking...
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If you had a title for yourmessage is, "Wanting More."
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It's holy to want more.
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It's taken fromthis life of David
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and you've already pointed out
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that a lot of scripture isdynamically in opposition.
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Jesus said, thefirst shall be last.
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The least among youwill be the greatest.
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- What's His incentive?
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The least among andbe the greatest.
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If He wasn't trying toincentivize us or more,
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He wouldn't have told usthe least or the greatest.
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- [Matt] There you go.
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- All these scriptures aboutunique rewards in heaven
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are there tospecifically entice us.
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The problem is we're enticed
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with too manythings of the world.
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- You're talkingabout this tension
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of being content in allthings and wanting more.
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There's tension and there shouldbe balanced to all things.
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And you're talking about this.
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You're using the lifeof David and it is...
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It's making me actually thinka little bit about my dad.
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As you're talkingabout this, he was...
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TBN was built
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during a very uniqueperiod of time in history,
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when TV stations werenot very valuable.
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They were not very sought after,nobody really wanted them.
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And TBN...
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And my dad was very aggressiveduring about a 10 year period
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to start buying TV channels.
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Then something happened withthe FCC called Must Carry,
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where TV stationsbecame very valuable
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and very sought after.
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And I'm sitting herelooking at this...
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What you're...
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It's holy to want more,
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but yet we have to becontent in all things.
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There is wait upon the Lord.
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So you're breaking this down
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and it's an interesting subject,
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especially whenyou think of COVID
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and you think of people thathave been sitting waiting
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for this pandemic to go away.
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When can I take my mask off?
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When can we actually shake hands
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and greet each otherinstead of social distance.
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We're in Colorado.
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By the way, Colorado has beensocial distancing since 1876.
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So we're social distancing.
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But you seem to be unpacking
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a really timely thingabout the attitude
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inside of the ChristianChurch in America.
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Your church, a lot ofchurches are shut down.
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A lot of churches arebeing told to close.
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A lot of churchesare willfully closing
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because they don'twant this to spread
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and all that kind of stuff.
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But you're breakingdown something usingthe life of David.
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So I want you tocontinue but I...
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We're on the samepage here, right?
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I mean, I'munderstanding so far.
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- Let's go back to, you talkedabout contentment, okay?
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So I'll just go publicand say, "I want more".
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I know it sounds selfishand sinful, but I want more.
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Now I am contentwith two grandkids
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and I want more of them.
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And if God never givesme a grand kid, great.
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I am content withthe number of people
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that God has a part of my church
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and there's the GreatCommission and I want more.
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- [Matt] Got it.
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- I am...
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I don't know if shecan hear me or not.
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I would almost say I'm content.
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I'm content with theintimacy of my wife.
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I'm really not, I don'tthink either one of us are.
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But I want more.
00:24:06.333 --> 00:24:07.167
I don't care who you are,that's funny right there.
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- She can hear you.
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- She knows what I'mtalking about it.
00:24:14.942 --> 00:24:16.410
I've actually been the barrierin our marriage, not her.
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I've been the barrier.
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I am very content
00:24:20.915 --> 00:24:22.983
with the resources God hasblessed me with and I want more.
00:24:22.983 --> 00:24:26.554
I'm very content with thehealth that God has me
00:24:26.554 --> 00:24:28.088
and I want more.
00:24:28.088 --> 00:24:29.189
I want zero back...
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So you see what I'm saying here?
00:24:30.324 --> 00:24:31.892
We can be content where weare and I can't get better
00:24:31.892 --> 00:24:34.028
if God doesn't chooseto give me more.
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But by golly, if Hedoesn't give me more,
00:24:36.764 --> 00:24:39.633
it's not gonna be because Idon't go back and get the Ark.
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It's not gonna be because Idon't go march against Goliath.
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It's not gonna be because
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I don't take the life that Hehas given me, instilled to me.
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And that's what I'msaying, "Do you want more?"
00:24:50.444 --> 00:24:54.181
God doesn't just come bringHis sweet little sugar finger,
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dip into your life and oh,wonderful, good things.
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Before you...
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What do you want to do?
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You can't have it all, Ican't have more on everything.
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I can't have more peoplein the church I lead,
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read more books,write more books,
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workout so to havea six pack abs,
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go to therapy all the time,
00:25:17.404 --> 00:25:20.240
have better motorcycleriding experiences.
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We can't have it all, right?
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But I've got to decide,
00:25:27.147 --> 00:25:28.682
what is the God wantsme to go after more in?
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What is it?
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And if I'm not askingthat, I'm not doing that,
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you know what I'm called?
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Unfaithful, that'swhat I'm called.
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I'm not called, waiting on theLord, I'm not called Wayne.
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I'm called unfaithful.
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David was great and hisgreatest moments were always
00:25:46.734 --> 00:25:50.504
when he was pushingforward aggressively.
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And I think more ofus than you take...
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- Because what happens whenyou don't, like with David?
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- Oh, okay, well, youwant another Bible story?
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- [Laurie] Yes.
00:26:02.449 --> 00:26:03.717
- All right, so hismost famous screw up
00:26:03.717 --> 00:26:07.588
was when he has adulterousaffair with Bathsheba.
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And the very first sentence
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of that whole sectionof scripture, it says:
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At the time when Kings wentout to war, David stayed home.
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This is a passivemove on his part.
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All Kings in the ancient world,
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during wintertime,all the marauders
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would come onto their landand kind of set up camp.
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And so as soon asspring time came,
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and the ground thought out
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they could get the chariotsout there to beat them back,
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that's what you would do.
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You would go out thereand you beat them back.
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That's what Kings did,especially a King like David--
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- [Laurie] He's a fighter.
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- Who's a fighter.
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And he just goes, "Nah, I'mgonna delegate that one.
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I'm gonna to stay home."
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And he sees Bathsheba
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and some preachersI've heard say
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that Bathsheba was temptinghim by washing on her roof
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when she knows the King'scastle is above her.
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No, that's not what happened.
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So she's watching herself.
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Let's talk aboutceremonial ritual washing
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after she would have beendone having her period.
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She's up there inan act of worship,
00:27:12.986 --> 00:27:15.055
and David, he stayed homebecause he's seen her before
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and he knows that he's gonnahave the city to himself
00:27:19.359 --> 00:27:22.496
and maybe he's gonnamake a play for him.
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I don't know that.
00:27:23.964 --> 00:27:25.432
I do know he should've beenfighting and he wasn't.
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So he comes back and he...
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- He should have been a Kingout to the war like the rest.
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So you're talking--
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- He was passive, he wasn'tmoving, he wasn't pushing.
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And things went really,really poorly for him.
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With men this is a...
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Pornography is a huge hugeissue with a lot of people,
00:27:48.055 --> 00:27:51.024
increasingly so with females,as much as with males.
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One of the thing...
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One of the reasonswhy pornography
00:27:57.564 --> 00:27:58.999
could be such adestructive force.
00:27:58.999 --> 00:28:01.034
Why men are drawn topornography is because
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they don't have enough otherchallenges in their life.
00:28:04.905 --> 00:28:07.775
There's a lot of reasonsyou're drawn to pornography.
00:28:07.775 --> 00:28:09.376
I need a quick escape right now.
00:28:09.376 --> 00:28:11.945
Just good old fashionedlosses, a lot of things
00:28:13.147 --> 00:28:14.748
but I've seen the people who
00:28:14.748 --> 00:28:18.452
really get in deep onit, very frequently,
00:28:18.452 --> 00:28:21.555
they don't have anoverarching vision.
00:28:21.555 --> 00:28:23.791
It's capturingtheir imagination,
00:28:23.791 --> 00:28:25.592
they're having to push towards.
00:28:25.592 --> 00:28:27.161
- They've stayed at home whenthey should have been at work.
00:28:28.629 --> 00:28:30.531
- And they're looking internally
00:28:30.531 --> 00:28:32.132
and they're just tryingto placate themselves
00:28:32.132 --> 00:28:34.168
and keep themselves busy.
00:28:34.168 --> 00:28:35.435
And a man gets into trouble.
00:28:37.638 --> 00:28:38.772
And that's a situation
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because God has a call for us.
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- [Laurie] So dokids go to kids.
00:28:41.708 --> 00:28:43.076
- [Brian] So do kids.
00:28:43.076 --> 00:28:44.278
- It feels like whatwe're talking about then
00:28:44.278 --> 00:28:48.382
is not only are we talkingabout it's holy to want more,
00:28:48.382 --> 00:28:53.387
but in the storyand utilizing David,
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he was always at his best
00:28:57.691 --> 00:29:00.294
when he was aggressivelywanting more, going after more.
00:29:00.294 --> 00:29:04.865
When he stayed homefrom war was his largest
00:29:04.865 --> 00:29:08.836
and most talked aboutscrew up as it were.
00:29:08.836 --> 00:29:12.873
But the idea that COVID
00:29:12.873 --> 00:29:15.943
was this thing thatsent everybody home,
00:29:15.943 --> 00:29:19.880
that stayed everybody,you know, everyone's home.
00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:22.616
We weren't out beingaggressive in a time,
00:29:22.616 --> 00:29:25.886
we should have been out at war
00:29:25.886 --> 00:29:27.754
and now we're staying at home.
00:29:27.754 --> 00:29:29.656
There seems to be thatyou're speaking this message
00:29:29.656 --> 00:29:33.760
to the larger body of Christ
00:29:33.760 --> 00:29:36.129
and that we all, if wehave an ear, are hearing
00:29:36.129 --> 00:29:40.334
that this is reallya timely word--
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- First thing I did when...
00:29:44.838 --> 00:29:46.506
My wife and I did
00:29:46.506 --> 00:29:47.975
when it looked like thingswere gonna get bad with COVID.
00:29:47.975 --> 00:29:50.677
And when there's a run on thestore and run on toilet paper.
00:29:52.145 --> 00:29:55.249
Who'd ever thoughtin their lifetime
00:29:55.249 --> 00:29:56.483
you couldn't gettoilet paper run?
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First thing Libby and I did
00:29:58.719 --> 00:30:00.120
is we sent an email toeverybody in our neighborhood,
00:30:00.120 --> 00:30:02.356
the 25 closest peopleand we said, "Hey, look,
00:30:02.356 --> 00:30:04.458
if you need anything,we're here for you.
00:30:04.458 --> 00:30:06.894
We've got plenty oftoilet paper right now.
00:30:06.894 --> 00:30:08.629
You're welcome toas much as we have.
00:30:08.629 --> 00:30:11.198
We've got food."
00:30:11.198 --> 00:30:12.633
We're not hardcorepreppers, but we got stuff.
00:30:12.633 --> 00:30:15.335
If you need anything atall, we're here for you.
00:30:15.335 --> 00:30:17.771
That was an aggressive move.
00:30:17.771 --> 00:30:19.373
Now, none of them came to us,
00:30:19.373 --> 00:30:22.342
but we aggressively putourselves out there.
00:30:22.342 --> 00:30:24.978
Whereas many of us were like,
00:30:24.978 --> 00:30:26.513
"Whoa I gotta hoard where Iam, I gotta stay where I am."
00:30:26.513 --> 00:30:29.883
That's being passive,
00:30:29.883 --> 00:30:31.285
that's not being ablessing to other people.
00:30:31.285 --> 00:30:32.853
That's the other partof the story by the way.
00:30:32.853 --> 00:30:34.855
David when he comesback, he gives meat,
00:30:34.855 --> 00:30:38.625
bread and a cake of raisinsto everybody in Israel.
00:30:38.625 --> 00:30:41.662
Everybody in his area there.
00:30:41.662 --> 00:30:43.263
Generously he blesses them.
00:30:43.263 --> 00:30:45.599
And so we in the midst of COVID,
00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:47.968
we've gotta beblessing people still.
00:30:47.968 --> 00:30:49.937
We've still gotta be oneanothering one another.
00:30:49.937 --> 00:30:53.473
The number of uswho have retreated
00:30:53.473 --> 00:30:56.643
and are socially distancing,spacial distance is fine,
00:30:56.643 --> 00:31:00.547
but you can not survivesocial distancing
00:31:00.547 --> 00:31:02.916
if you're a follower of Christ.
00:31:02.916 --> 00:31:04.384
Cause we need to oneanother one another.
00:31:04.384 --> 00:31:06.553
And we have to figureout how to do that.
00:31:06.553 --> 00:31:08.588
And those of us who haven'tfigured out how to do that,
00:31:08.588 --> 00:31:11.291
my anecdotal observations are,
00:31:11.291 --> 00:31:14.127
are struggling morespiritually than others.
00:31:14.127 --> 00:31:15.996
There's a distancebetween them and God.
00:31:15.996 --> 00:31:19.466
There's a higher degree of fear.
00:31:19.466 --> 00:31:21.635
There's a higherdegree of uncertainty.
00:31:21.635 --> 00:31:25.339
Because we weren'tmeant spiritually
00:31:25.339 --> 00:31:27.240
to function asautonomous people.
00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:29.109
So that's what aggression is.
00:31:29.109 --> 00:31:31.812
I've got to make thebest of situation.
00:31:31.812 --> 00:31:33.547
I've got to pushas best as I can.
00:31:33.547 --> 00:31:35.349
- So that brings meto the scripture,
00:31:35.349 --> 00:31:37.484
that if you seek firstthe kingdom of God,
00:31:37.484 --> 00:31:39.519
so you're pursuing after God,
00:31:39.519 --> 00:31:42.055
then all these things are added.
00:31:42.055 --> 00:31:44.391
- Yeah, that's great.
00:31:44.391 --> 00:31:46.526
- So there is nothingwith the pandemic or COVID
00:31:46.526 --> 00:31:51.164
or anything that can stopyou from pursuing God.
00:31:51.164 --> 00:31:55.335
Your passion towards God.
00:31:55.335 --> 00:31:57.170
And when you do that
00:31:57.170 --> 00:31:59.673
and you're aggressive inyour relationship with God,
00:31:59.673 --> 00:32:02.943
that everlasting life, Brian.
00:32:02.943 --> 00:32:04.811
That then all of these things...
00:32:06.213 --> 00:32:08.615
The take on, whatdoes that benefit?
00:32:08.615 --> 00:32:12.019
Okay, so I do this.
00:32:12.019 --> 00:32:13.253
How does it benefit me?
00:32:13.253 --> 00:32:15.155
If I'm aggressive towards God?
00:32:15.155 --> 00:32:16.890
How does it benefit?
00:32:16.890 --> 00:32:18.091
- Well, it's Jesuswho quoted that verse.
00:32:18.091 --> 00:32:19.693
Jesus says, "seek."
00:32:19.693 --> 00:32:21.028
He's not talking about, Hmm,where am I gonna seek him?
00:32:22.462 --> 00:32:26.133
That's seeking.
00:32:26.133 --> 00:32:27.167
That's actively going...
00:32:27.167 --> 00:32:28.568
Whatever you lost, youever lost something?
00:32:28.568 --> 00:32:30.437
What you do?
00:32:30.437 --> 00:32:31.638
You go looking forit, that's His story.
00:32:31.638 --> 00:32:33.106
When a woman loses onecoin, she goes and seeks.
00:32:33.106 --> 00:32:35.642
She's turning thingsover in the house.
00:32:35.642 --> 00:32:37.611
So the precursor,
00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:40.914
to having all thesethings added on to you
00:32:40.914 --> 00:32:43.617
is aggressively pushingout and looking.
00:32:43.617 --> 00:32:47.487
- Seek first the Kingdom of God
00:32:47.487 --> 00:32:49.423
and all these things are added.
00:32:49.423 --> 00:32:51.224
Is a scriptural underpinning
00:32:51.224 --> 00:32:53.360
to what we're really discussing.
00:32:53.360 --> 00:32:54.828
By the way, this is abrand new location for us,
00:32:54.828 --> 00:32:58.965
we're here in Southern Colorado.
00:32:58.965 --> 00:33:01.034
Our guest is Brian Tome,
00:33:01.034 --> 00:33:03.770
brand new programmer on TBN.
00:33:03.770 --> 00:33:06.573
For informationabout how to watch
00:33:06.573 --> 00:33:09.476
and get more connected toBrian and his weekly broadcast,
00:33:09.476 --> 00:33:13.947
airs more than one time a week.
00:33:13.947 --> 00:33:15.282
All the information'son the screen.
00:33:15.282 --> 00:33:17.084
If we're introducing himto you, you're welcome.
00:33:21.021 --> 00:33:24.691
There he is, Brian Tome,from Cincinnati, Ohio.
00:33:24.691 --> 00:33:28.428
So when you lose something,
00:33:28.428 --> 00:33:33.233
it made me thinkof this morning.
00:33:33.233 --> 00:33:35.435
We actually lost somethinghere on the ranch
00:33:35.435 --> 00:33:38.438
and it accidentallygot thrown away.
00:33:38.438 --> 00:33:40.340
So I was in adumpster earlier today
00:33:40.340 --> 00:33:43.376
looking for a door handle.
00:33:43.376 --> 00:33:45.879
So that door handleright there was missing
00:33:45.879 --> 00:33:48.315
and so we were in a dumpster.
00:33:49.483 --> 00:33:50.917
That was really astute.
00:33:53.019 --> 00:33:54.821
So that proves to me
00:33:54.821 --> 00:33:56.323
that you actually listenwhile we do this program.
00:33:56.323 --> 00:33:58.358
So well done.
00:33:58.358 --> 00:33:59.793
When you said, "Seekfirst the kingdom of God--
00:33:59.793 --> 00:34:02.095
- Well, nobody has anexcuse for not pursuing God
00:34:02.095 --> 00:34:05.398
in their relationship--
00:34:05.398 --> 00:34:06.900
- And it feels like COVIDis making everyone sit back
00:34:06.900 --> 00:34:10.403
and wait forsomething to happen.
00:34:10.403 --> 00:34:12.706
That seems to bethematically what...
00:34:12.706 --> 00:34:16.610
At least a good part of whatwe're discussing tonight
00:34:16.610 --> 00:34:19.779
is COVID is makingeveryone sit back and go,
00:34:19.779 --> 00:34:23.416
When someone else tells me
00:34:23.416 --> 00:34:25.986
it's okay to do what Iused to do or what...
00:34:25.986 --> 00:34:29.122
Then I'm gonna go and do that
00:34:29.122 --> 00:34:31.091
instead of youknow what, let's...
00:34:31.091 --> 00:34:33.727
- Well, we haveto recognize here
00:34:34.895 --> 00:34:36.897
that this is a crisis that'scustom-made for our country.
00:34:36.897 --> 00:34:41.334
I believe this is real.
00:34:41.334 --> 00:34:42.402
I have a good buddy of mine
00:34:42.402 --> 00:34:43.603
I ride motorcycleswith who is...
00:34:43.603 --> 00:34:45.639
We call him "Impact resistant".
00:34:45.639 --> 00:34:47.574
He doesn't get hurt.
00:34:47.574 --> 00:34:49.342
And he just got the virus
00:34:49.342 --> 00:34:50.877
and he was sleeping 15, 16hours a day for two weeks.
00:34:50.877 --> 00:34:53.813
So, I mean, it's real.
00:34:53.813 --> 00:34:55.048
I'm not trying tominimize it at all.
00:34:55.048 --> 00:34:57.350
But this is alsocustom-made for us.
00:34:57.350 --> 00:34:59.619
I believe America isn'tthe land of the free,
00:34:59.619 --> 00:35:02.856
we're the land of the fear.
00:35:02.856 --> 00:35:04.291
- [Laurie] Yes.
00:35:04.291 --> 00:35:05.458
- We have more fears,more paranoias,
00:35:05.458 --> 00:35:06.893
more helmets, more seat belts,more insurance policies.
00:35:06.893 --> 00:35:10.597
We take more medication
00:35:10.597 --> 00:35:12.365
than any people group inthe history of the world.
00:35:12.365 --> 00:35:16.937
If you ever do the innergramever done the innergram?
00:35:18.338 --> 00:35:20.273
- [Laurie] Yes.- [Matt] Yeah.
00:35:20.273 --> 00:35:21.408
- 50% of us are all...
00:35:21.408 --> 00:35:23.343
I think it's a six, where theprimary driver is caution.
00:35:23.343 --> 00:35:26.112
- Wow!
00:35:26.112 --> 00:35:27.347
- The primary driveris basically fear.
00:35:27.347 --> 00:35:30.483
When you have a high percentageof our country that is that.
00:35:30.483 --> 00:35:34.487
This is right in line withthings we're concerned about.
00:35:35.889 --> 00:35:38.458
And so I'm not ready tosay that we've overreacted,
00:35:38.458 --> 00:35:41.561
cause the medicalissues are real.
00:35:41.561 --> 00:35:44.397
I'm just saying we'rejust the kind of people
00:35:44.397 --> 00:35:49.402
to lose our lives over this,to lose our faith over this,
00:35:50.870 --> 00:35:54.174
to lose ourperspective over this.
00:35:54.174 --> 00:35:56.943
God never wants youretrain into a bunker.
00:35:56.943 --> 00:35:59.579
He doesn't want that.
00:35:59.579 --> 00:36:01.047
He told the disciples"Go in all the world."
00:36:01.047 --> 00:36:04.050
I think about that,talk about aggression.
00:36:04.050 --> 00:36:06.253
These are people who,wherever they were born
00:36:06.253 --> 00:36:08.555
they would die withinfive to 10 miles
00:36:08.555 --> 00:36:10.357
from where they were born.
00:36:10.357 --> 00:36:11.224
- [Brian] Right.
00:36:11.224 --> 00:36:12.158
- And they're going to places
00:36:12.158 --> 00:36:14.261
they've never knownanybody to go to.
00:36:14.261 --> 00:36:16.663
They're getting shipwrecked
00:36:16.663 --> 00:36:18.031
because they'reaggressively going places.
00:36:18.031 --> 00:36:21.101
First time I went to theGrand Canyon, I was stunned.
00:36:21.101 --> 00:36:24.437
My wife and I were in the dinerand the waitress came over
00:36:24.437 --> 00:36:28.308
and this was beforethe days of GPS
00:36:28.308 --> 00:36:29.976
or at least I didn't have one.
00:36:29.976 --> 00:36:31.077
I just had a map.
00:36:31.077 --> 00:36:32.612
And I said,
00:36:32.612 --> 00:36:34.147
"Can you tell me how far awaywe are from the Grand Canyon?
00:36:34.147 --> 00:36:35.615
This is Flagstaff, the closestcity to the Grand Canyon.
00:36:35.615 --> 00:36:38.418
She said, "I don't know."
00:36:38.418 --> 00:36:40.086
So did you just move here?
00:36:41.288 --> 00:36:42.522
Says, "No, I livedhere my whole life."
00:36:42.522 --> 00:36:44.457
My gosh, your wholelife you've been here,
00:36:45.625 --> 00:36:48.161
never gone to the Grand Canyon?
00:36:48.161 --> 00:36:49.763
Go to the Grand Canyon,there's more foreign languages
00:36:49.763 --> 00:36:52.666
and there is theEnglish language.
00:36:52.666 --> 00:36:55.135
That's a sign of how manyof us are as Americans
00:36:55.135 --> 00:36:57.804
but yet when Jesustells us to go,
00:36:57.804 --> 00:37:00.340
we've got to be the onesthat are doing that.
00:37:00.340 --> 00:37:02.075
And if you want more...
00:37:02.075 --> 00:37:04.477
And this isn't justmore of yourself.
00:37:04.477 --> 00:37:06.079
Primarily, if you wantmore sanctification.
00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:09.716
If you want more peopleinto the family of God.
00:37:09.716 --> 00:37:13.119
If you want more experiencewith the Holy Spirit,
00:37:13.119 --> 00:37:17.090
you have to be on the move.
00:37:17.090 --> 00:37:18.291
I just said, I wantmore grandkids.
00:37:18.291 --> 00:37:20.560
I want more intimacy.
00:37:20.560 --> 00:37:21.761
I want more money in the bank.
00:37:21.761 --> 00:37:23.263
I want more people tobuy books I've read.
00:37:23.263 --> 00:37:25.765
I want more gifts of theHoly Spirit, I want them all.
00:37:25.765 --> 00:37:28.401
I hope you don't rebuke me.
00:37:30.303 --> 00:37:31.304
I don't have thegift of tongues.
00:37:31.304 --> 00:37:33.273
I'll take it, I can't tell youthe times I prayed for that.
00:37:33.273 --> 00:37:36.710
I want all of them.
00:37:36.710 --> 00:37:38.311
And if God chooses notto give me something,
00:37:38.311 --> 00:37:40.847
well that's His thing,
00:37:40.847 --> 00:37:42.382
but I'm not gonnanot have something
00:37:42.382 --> 00:37:43.583
because I don't prayfor it and go after it.
00:37:43.583 --> 00:37:45.485
- I love that.
00:37:45.485 --> 00:37:47.387
Cause it's like astrologers.
00:37:49.289 --> 00:37:52.959
People that look atthe stars and then...
00:37:52.959 --> 00:37:55.428
I was with this preciouswoman and one day,
00:37:56.629 --> 00:37:58.732
a dear friend of mine and--
00:37:58.732 --> 00:38:00.900
- Nonbeliever.
00:38:02.936 --> 00:38:04.170
- A nonbeliever, and shekind of started in on.
00:38:04.170 --> 00:38:08.675
When is your birthday?
00:38:09.876 --> 00:38:11.778
And so I told her and I said,
00:38:11.778 --> 00:38:14.280
"When did you realize that Godhad given you such a gift?"
00:38:14.280 --> 00:38:17.517
And she was telling me abouther astrology and stuff.
00:38:18.952 --> 00:38:23.957
And I said, you know what Ilove about that, as I said,
00:38:25.425 --> 00:38:27.227
"It's the people that lookedat the stars that found Jesus."
00:38:27.227 --> 00:38:30.430
They were passionately looking.
00:38:31.297 --> 00:38:33.099
They stargazed.
00:38:33.099 --> 00:38:34.567
They knew the stars andthey found the Christ.
00:38:34.567 --> 00:38:38.071
they found Jesus.
00:38:38.071 --> 00:38:39.239
And so I love that becauseyou're saying that you pursue,
00:38:40.640 --> 00:38:45.145
you aggressively go after whatGod has put on your heart.
00:38:46.546 --> 00:38:51.551
Even we were talking about thisCOVID thing when it started,
00:38:52.952 --> 00:38:55.121
TBN stepped out and didsomething absolutely impossible
00:38:55.121 --> 00:39:00.126
and made it a huge bid on agroup of television stations
00:39:01.594 --> 00:39:05.165
and we didn't get it.
00:39:06.332 --> 00:39:07.700
But it's okay because Ilooked at him, I said,
00:39:09.102 --> 00:39:11.871
"But we still stepped out."
00:39:11.871 --> 00:39:14.207
That was still faith,
00:39:14.207 --> 00:39:15.542
it's still accountedto us as righteousness.
00:39:15.542 --> 00:39:18.711
Aggressively going after.
00:39:18.711 --> 00:39:20.313
And I know that there are people
00:39:20.313 --> 00:39:21.815
that are naturally like that.
00:39:21.815 --> 00:39:23.917
If something negativehappens, then it's like,
00:39:23.917 --> 00:39:27.454
the kind of thefight or flight thing
00:39:27.454 --> 00:39:29.989
that happen in people.
00:39:29.989 --> 00:39:31.524
But there's a lot of peoplethat get beat down terribly
00:39:31.524 --> 00:39:36.029
that are not aggressiveanyway in their personalities.
00:39:37.397 --> 00:39:41.701
That can really get under...
00:39:42.769 --> 00:39:45.338
Just climb under the rugwhen things go wrong.
00:39:45.338 --> 00:39:48.074
And we need to speakto those people--
00:39:49.242 --> 00:39:50.777
- What I thinkyou're also doing is
00:39:50.777 --> 00:39:55.348
you're challenging us believers.
00:39:55.348 --> 00:39:59.486
And you're literally sayingit's holy to want more.
00:39:59.486 --> 00:40:03.690
At the same time, the otherend of that pendulum swing,
00:40:03.690 --> 00:40:07.527
is being content in all things.
00:40:07.527 --> 00:40:09.329
So we have to becontent in all things
00:40:09.329 --> 00:40:12.131
but it's holy to want more.
00:40:12.131 --> 00:40:13.933
Some people don't think that.
00:40:13.933 --> 00:40:15.268
- If I don't get more,
00:40:15.268 --> 00:40:17.570
I can't hold that against God.
00:40:17.570 --> 00:40:19.906
Life is but a whisper.
00:40:19.906 --> 00:40:21.407
Let's be clear.
00:40:22.842 --> 00:40:24.077
There's a lot of people,more godly than me,
00:40:24.077 --> 00:40:27.881
who are in differentparts of the world,
00:40:27.881 --> 00:40:30.149
who are filled withthe Holy Spirit,
00:40:30.149 --> 00:40:32.652
who are underintense persecution
00:40:32.652 --> 00:40:35.522
and are never gonna havemore of anything that I have
00:40:35.522 --> 00:40:39.826
any day that I take for granted.
00:40:39.826 --> 00:40:41.461
We're not talking about somehealth and wealth entitlement
00:40:41.461 --> 00:40:44.664
that if you do the right things,
00:40:44.664 --> 00:40:45.899
voodoo more stuff'sgonna come to you.
00:40:45.899 --> 00:40:47.734
Cause God just always wantsyou to have more money.
00:40:47.734 --> 00:40:49.702
More money was thatfrom Jerry McGuire.
00:40:49.702 --> 00:40:52.038
I'm not talking about that.
00:40:52.972 --> 00:40:55.875
I'm just saying whateverGod has given you
00:40:55.875 --> 00:40:57.877
or blessed you with,
00:40:57.877 --> 00:40:59.879
don't be satisfied forto stay the way it is.
00:40:59.879 --> 00:41:04.083
- [Matt] Got it.
00:41:04.083 --> 00:41:05.518
- Jesus gave thestory twice, right?
00:41:05.518 --> 00:41:07.053
The parable of the minas andthe parable of the talents.
00:41:07.053 --> 00:41:09.622
And two people grow itand one person doesn't
00:41:09.622 --> 00:41:12.892
and that person whodoesn't he says,
00:41:12.892 --> 00:41:14.260
"Get away from me you evildoer."
00:41:14.260 --> 00:41:16.963
That person goes passive.
00:41:16.963 --> 00:41:18.631
The two people who goaggressive and they grow it,
00:41:18.631 --> 00:41:22.201
he says the exactsame thing to them,
00:41:22.201 --> 00:41:23.570
"Well done, good andfaithful servants."
00:41:23.570 --> 00:41:26.573
It's not so muchthat they grew it,
00:41:26.573 --> 00:41:28.841
cause one guy did it fiveX, one guy did a two X.
00:41:28.841 --> 00:41:32.111
One guy added fiveand another one
00:41:32.111 --> 00:41:33.713
different numbersthat are around there.
00:41:33.713 --> 00:41:35.148
Numbers in the Bibledon't always hit with me.
00:41:35.148 --> 00:41:37.517
It's not that he's...
00:41:37.517 --> 00:41:38.918
I don't think so much rewardinghow much more they got,
00:41:38.918 --> 00:41:43.089
it's that they wereon the aggressive move
00:41:43.089 --> 00:41:45.291
cause he says theexact same thing
00:41:45.291 --> 00:41:46.759
to the guy who broughtback more than the other.
00:41:46.759 --> 00:41:48.828
The other one, the problem was
00:41:48.828 --> 00:41:50.029
they weren't on theaggressive move.
00:41:50.029 --> 00:41:51.230
They just said "I'mgoing to bury it
00:41:51.230 --> 00:41:52.865
and just hope Goddoesn't judge me."
00:41:52.865 --> 00:41:55.168
He says, that'snot the way God is,
00:41:55.168 --> 00:41:56.703
friends He's blessedyou with something
00:41:56.703 --> 00:41:58.638
because He wants youto put it in play.
00:41:58.638 --> 00:42:00.907
- There you go.
00:42:00.907 --> 00:42:02.175
- Because it wasn'tyours to begin with.
00:42:02.175 --> 00:42:03.376
- [Brian] That's exactly right.
00:42:03.376 --> 00:42:04.510
Not my grandkids, right?
00:42:04.510 --> 00:42:07.046
Not my wife, not my life.
00:42:07.046 --> 00:42:09.182
It is His.
00:42:10.183 --> 00:42:10.984
He owns the cattleon a thousand hills
00:42:12.151 --> 00:42:13.953
and He owns this piece of meat.
00:42:13.953 --> 00:42:16.189
- Right.
00:42:17.190 --> 00:42:18.257
I love it.
00:42:18.257 --> 00:42:19.525
- Okay, Brian Tome,
00:42:19.525 --> 00:42:21.394
first of all brand newprogrammer right here on TBN.
00:42:21.394 --> 00:42:24.998
For more information,it's all on the screen.
00:42:24.998 --> 00:42:27.867
We want you to getmore connected to him.
00:42:27.867 --> 00:42:31.504
You have a devotional andI'll go ahead and hold it up.
00:42:32.905 --> 00:42:35.875
And if I get the lightingjust right, look at that.
00:42:35.875 --> 00:42:39.078
You can actually see it.
00:42:39.078 --> 00:42:40.446
Brian Tome, "TheMan Devotional."
00:42:40.446 --> 00:42:44.283
And it says righthere, the subtitle,
00:42:44.283 --> 00:42:46.953
"Prompts to kickyour rear into gear."
00:42:46.953 --> 00:42:50.556
66 prompts to kickyour rear into gear.
00:42:53.726 --> 00:42:58.731
So if that is something thatyou need a kick in the rear
00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:03.469
then this is BrianTome's latest devotional
00:43:04.704 --> 00:43:08.775
we want you to get it.
00:43:08.775 --> 00:43:10.510
Brian, start...
00:43:10.510 --> 00:43:12.545
By the way, it is a beautifulevening here in Colorado,
00:43:13.946 --> 00:43:17.016
just absolutely stunning.
00:43:17.016 --> 00:43:18.951
And so Brian, on yourlatest devotional,
00:43:18.951 --> 00:43:22.355
it's fun to to readthe backside of it.
00:43:22.355 --> 00:43:24.557
If I angle it just right,
00:43:24.557 --> 00:43:26.259
the glare comes offand I can read--
00:43:26.259 --> 00:43:27.860
- It's made for actuallyyounger men, I guess.
00:43:27.860 --> 00:43:30.563
But we find a lot of women
00:43:30.563 --> 00:43:31.764
are totally soakingup that content.
00:43:31.764 --> 00:43:33.332
- Okay, let me just see it.
00:43:33.332 --> 00:43:34.934
It's big enough to read.
00:43:34.934 --> 00:43:36.169
It's just black ona black book, Brian.
00:43:36.169 --> 00:43:38.671
So if you want to...
00:43:38.671 --> 00:43:41.407
If you don't wanna move,
00:43:41.407 --> 00:43:43.576
you might as well just putthis book down right now.
00:43:43.576 --> 00:43:46.579
So we're talking about this...
00:43:46.579 --> 00:43:50.316
You're talking about theholiness of wanting more.
00:43:51.751 --> 00:43:55.555
From some of thetraditional denominations,
00:43:56.856 --> 00:43:59.158
that wouldn't have beenpreached Sunday morning
00:44:03.596 --> 00:44:06.099
in a lot of traditionaldenominations.
00:44:06.099 --> 00:44:08.601
You are to be content, end ofperiod, end of story there.
00:44:08.601 --> 00:44:13.606
It's not holy to want more.
00:44:14.474 --> 00:44:15.775
You're breaking outof the box and saying,
00:44:15.775 --> 00:44:19.278
it's holy to want more.
00:44:19.278 --> 00:44:20.446
- Well, yes and I am
00:44:20.446 --> 00:44:22.381
because I'm coming froma place of repentance.
00:44:22.381 --> 00:44:24.484
Because I was oneof those people.
00:44:24.484 --> 00:44:26.385
I was one of thosepeople that judge people
00:44:26.385 --> 00:44:28.421
who had new ideasand tried new things.
00:44:28.421 --> 00:44:30.323
I was one of thosepeople who judge people
00:44:30.323 --> 00:44:32.024
who wanted to growtheir thing bigger,
00:44:32.024 --> 00:44:33.459
thinking they werejust being selfish.
00:44:33.459 --> 00:44:35.328
I was one of those people.
00:44:35.328 --> 00:44:36.529
I asked a good friendof mine recently.
00:44:36.529 --> 00:44:37.897
I just repented to him.
00:44:37.897 --> 00:44:38.831
And I said, I'm sorry.
00:44:38.831 --> 00:44:39.766
Started this little business
00:44:39.766 --> 00:44:41.234
called Peace, Loveand Little Donuts.
00:44:41.234 --> 00:44:43.269
And it's a franchise, it'sreally been taken off.
00:44:44.704 --> 00:44:47.006
And I said to Ron, Isaid, "Man, I'm sorry.
00:44:47.006 --> 00:44:50.443
When we were inour early twenties,
00:44:50.443 --> 00:44:52.011
I used to refer to allof your ideas as scams."
00:44:52.011 --> 00:44:55.748
I know, I was awful myself.
00:44:55.748 --> 00:44:57.049
I was awful to him.
00:44:57.049 --> 00:44:58.985
It is terrible.
00:44:58.985 --> 00:45:00.219
But I was coming froma place of religion
00:45:00.219 --> 00:45:02.388
that said, "If you want more,
00:45:02.388 --> 00:45:04.223
if you want to try somethingnew with your life,
00:45:04.223 --> 00:45:05.892
then you're not contentwith where you are
00:45:05.892 --> 00:45:07.226
then you must be materialistic
00:45:07.226 --> 00:45:08.928
or you must beselfish or something.
00:45:08.928 --> 00:45:10.563
I was dead, dead, wrong.
00:45:10.563 --> 00:45:12.098
I in seminary, I would judgepeople who had churches,
00:45:12.098 --> 00:45:14.767
the size of the one thatGod's blessed me with.
00:45:14.767 --> 00:45:17.069
Because I thought of,
00:45:17.069 --> 00:45:18.304
You're doing somethingto grow the church,
00:45:18.304 --> 00:45:19.372
you've got some ulterior motive.
00:45:19.372 --> 00:45:21.541
No, it's called theGreat Commission.
00:45:21.541 --> 00:45:24.076
It's called peoplegoing to hell.
00:45:24.076 --> 00:45:26.312
- Yeah, so how didthat change for you?
00:45:26.312 --> 00:45:28.347
- I started reading the Bible.
00:45:28.347 --> 00:45:30.116
- You finally accept Jesus?
00:45:33.619 --> 00:45:34.720
- You start reading the Bible
00:45:34.720 --> 00:45:37.056
and then you start lookingaround at other people
00:45:37.056 --> 00:45:40.026
who are taking a pathof aggression and apath of passivity.
00:45:40.026 --> 00:45:44.530
And I go, "These people aretaking the path of positivity,
00:45:44.530 --> 00:45:47.500
they don't havelives that I want."
00:45:47.500 --> 00:45:50.136
These folks over here,they're intriguing to me.
00:45:50.136 --> 00:45:52.939
I need to learnsomething from them.
00:45:52.939 --> 00:45:54.674
- So what I feel like a bigexclamation point is on this,
00:45:54.674 --> 00:45:59.679
is Brian, we're 40minutes into this program
00:46:01.013 --> 00:46:04.383
45 minutes into this program.
00:46:04.383 --> 00:46:06.385
And you haven't said anything
00:46:06.385 --> 00:46:11.057
that I haven't grown up on.
00:46:11.057 --> 00:46:13.492
You haven't said...
00:46:13.492 --> 00:46:14.961
You're bringinga word in season,
00:46:16.128 --> 00:46:19.365
but what I just realizedis you've had to journey
00:46:22.068 --> 00:46:27.073
to the point whereyou're talking about this
00:46:28.407 --> 00:46:30.476
because you used to bea religious judgmentaljerk, I guess.
00:46:30.476 --> 00:46:34.847
I mean, is that kindof what you were?
00:46:34.847 --> 00:46:35.915
- Religiousjudgemental minimalist.
00:46:35.915 --> 00:46:38.251
- [Matt] Really?
00:46:38.251 --> 00:46:39.485
Jerk.
00:46:39.485 --> 00:46:40.319
- Yeah, I was a jerk.
00:46:40.319 --> 00:46:41.754
I'm just defining jerk more.
00:46:41.754 --> 00:46:45.124
- So you come from a placewhere you, at your age,
00:46:45.124 --> 00:46:49.462
preaching to your younger self.
00:46:49.462 --> 00:46:51.597
Your younger self wouldhave gone, "You're wrong."
00:46:51.597 --> 00:46:55.201
- Yes, yes, yes.
00:46:55.201 --> 00:46:57.737
- What would your younger self
00:46:57.737 --> 00:46:59.238
had said to your current self?
00:46:59.238 --> 00:47:00.940
About tonight's program--
00:47:02.241 --> 00:47:04.010
- Would have said,"Hey current self,
00:47:04.010 --> 00:47:06.112
stop judging somebodywho's on TBN."
00:47:06.112 --> 00:47:08.681
Because I would havejudged your whole station.
00:47:08.681 --> 00:47:11.484
Just coming where I was from.
00:47:11.484 --> 00:47:13.753
- Are you judgingLaurie and I now?
00:47:14.954 --> 00:47:16.188
- Absolutely not,I am counting you--
00:47:16.188 --> 00:47:17.523
- You're over that, right?
00:47:17.523 --> 00:47:18.791
- I am totally overthat, especially not.
00:47:18.791 --> 00:47:22.995
- [Matt] You're welcome.
00:47:22.995 --> 00:47:24.397
- No, I was judgmental, man.
00:47:24.397 --> 00:47:26.332
Anybody who wasn't like me,
00:47:26.332 --> 00:47:28.701
and anybody who wanted somethingdifferent out of their life
00:47:28.701 --> 00:47:31.470
- [Matt] Or more.
00:47:31.470 --> 00:47:32.405
- Or more, I always thought
00:47:32.405 --> 00:47:34.006
there was somethingwrong with you.
00:47:34.006 --> 00:47:35.508
Just be satisfied what you have
00:47:35.508 --> 00:47:36.809
and stay in your little thing.
00:47:36.809 --> 00:47:38.311
That was awful of me.
00:47:40.212 --> 00:47:42.415
So I just say sorry to anybodywho was a fan of this station
00:47:42.415 --> 00:47:45.751
who had that attitude,
00:47:45.751 --> 00:47:47.520
who received thatattitude from me,
00:47:47.520 --> 00:47:49.221
I was dead wrong andI'm sorry for that.
00:47:49.221 --> 00:47:50.890
- You're forgiven.
00:47:50.890 --> 00:47:51.824
- Okay, so you've become...
00:47:51.824 --> 00:47:55.394
Brian, in one sense,
00:47:55.394 --> 00:47:56.929
you've become moreinteresting to me,
00:47:56.929 --> 00:48:01.233
based upon that juxtaposition.
00:48:01.233 --> 00:48:04.170
We're talking about tonight.
00:48:04.170 --> 00:48:06.205
Let the weak say I amstrong, is a juxtaposition.
00:48:07.573 --> 00:48:11.344
The first shall be last.
00:48:11.344 --> 00:48:13.012
You talked about in this--
00:48:13.012 --> 00:48:15.715
- The tension.
00:48:15.715 --> 00:48:17.216
- The tension between thekingdom of God is real.
00:48:17.216 --> 00:48:20.886
And you have experienced bothends of the pendulum swing.
00:48:20.886 --> 00:48:25.157
You just said you wanted everygift of the Spirit available
00:48:25.157 --> 00:48:28.828
that the Holy Spiritwould give to you.
00:48:28.828 --> 00:48:31.130
And you used to be ajudgemental, religious person.
00:48:31.130 --> 00:48:34.967
- Yap.
00:48:34.967 --> 00:48:36.202
- So you are nowmore interesting.
00:48:36.202 --> 00:48:39.472
It's like...
00:48:39.472 --> 00:48:40.306
- Oh, I'm glad thatI was boring you
00:48:41.540 --> 00:48:44.677
the previous 45 minutes.
00:48:44.677 --> 00:48:46.479
And now all of asudden I'm interesting.
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- It's like if Tom Hanksis cast to play a bad guy.
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Tom Hanks, is super nice guy.
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You think of him asa funny, good guy,
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juxtaposition to playing nowan evil character in a movie
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or something like...
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You are talking about the veryaspects of the Holy Spirit,
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deeply grabbingyou and shaking you
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and telling you there's more.
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And how far of the pendulumswing you had to come from.
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- Anybody who wasn'tlike me would get judged.
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And specifically anybody whowas going for more was judged.
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One of my worst momentswas when I was in seminary
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and I tried to convincethe class, I was in,
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Mother Teresa likelywasn't going to heaven.
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Yeah, I was pretty bad, right?
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- Why?
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- She didn't mouth theexact theological phrases
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I think that sheshould be saying.
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And why are you over there in...
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Of course, why isshe over there?
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Cause she's there to helppeople, she's there to bless.
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She wanted more orphans,
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more hungry people to befeeling the love of God.
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But me and my hard heartedreligious orientation,
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I couldn't see andappreciate that.
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I just wasn't hearingher say things
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that I thoughtsomeone should say,
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if they were in line withline with my tradition.
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- [Matt] My goodness!
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- Yeah, I got to tell you too.
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There's a lot of people like me.
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If you don't know, there'sa lot of people like me
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or like I was, anyway.
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So that's kind of whyI am fired up on this.
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I'm not a health andwealth prosperity guy
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in the extreme sense.
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I'm not that at all.
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But there is thiselement of wanting more,
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that's very godly.
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I've kind of come into this
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and I'm like a kid who just
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is seeing something that'sin the Bible again and again,
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but he never saw it before.
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- [Laurie] Yeah.- [Matt] My goodness!
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Would it be okayto say you're woke?
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- In that place, yes.
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- Go back to bed.
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- And I do believeI'm woke as well.
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But of course, most of uswho are white think we are
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and oftentimes we're not.
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- Okay, I think you havegotten everyone's attention.
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And I think it's a veryimportant word for kind of--
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- I love your honesty.
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- I love the approach.
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I love the way...
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And this is everyweek now on TBN.
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All the information about
00:51:07.520 --> 00:51:09.522
Brian's televisionbroadcast is on the screen.
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We wanted to make sure hegot a good introduction.
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And I think we've donea good job with that.
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- So you never dreamedyou'd be on TV?
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- No, no, no, never, no.
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- I've never thought
00:51:22.768 --> 00:51:24.937
that my hair wouldlook like this on TBN.
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Because I've been wearinga welder's helmet all day.
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And so I feel like I havewelder's helmet hair.
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- That's very manly.
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I would not have assumedyou were the welding type,
00:51:38.017 --> 00:51:40.219
but you're stuck.
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I finally respect you, justlike you finally respect me.
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I hear that you finallyare doing welding,
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I'm impressed with you.
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- I was in a dumpsterearlier today
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and I had a weldinghelmet on most of the day.
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Okay, so now I'm sitting withyou, former religious jerk
00:51:52.464 --> 00:51:57.002
and now you're onTBN, I love that.
00:51:57.002 --> 00:51:59.672
This is a unique broadcast, aunique set of circumstances.
00:51:59.672 --> 00:52:04.410
This is a beautifullyunique location
00:52:04.410 --> 00:52:07.580
that we're sitting in.
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And again, we welcomeyou to Western Colorado.
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Brian, pray for the audience
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and just give the lastcouple of minutes,
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kind of land this plane.
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Pray for folks and loveon them a little bit.
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- All right, a lot of thisstuff that we're talking about
00:52:25.364 --> 00:52:28.834
you can find at briantome.com.
00:52:28.834 --> 00:52:31.203
Some I do podcastsin this material.
00:52:31.203 --> 00:52:33.472
I have articles, you cancheck that stuff out there.
00:52:33.472 --> 00:52:37.443
Basically, we justwant you to have
00:52:37.443 --> 00:52:40.246
the things that God iswaiting for you to have
00:52:40.246 --> 00:52:43.048
if you move on the thingsHe wants you to move on.
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This is not a time to look back
00:52:48.754 --> 00:52:50.656
and regret the thingswe haven't done.
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It's not a time to look back
00:52:54.226 --> 00:52:55.361
and regret themissed opportunities.
00:52:55.361 --> 00:52:58.497
It's time to say rightnow, where I am right now,
00:52:58.497 --> 00:53:02.635
what does God wantyou to move on?
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What is he waitingfor you to move on?
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Every single hero inthe Bible is a hero
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because they moved on something.
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They aggressively movedtowards something.
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They didn't justwait for something,
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they moved towards something.
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And so maybe the best thingfor us to do right now
00:53:16.982 --> 00:53:18.751
is just pray.
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Let me pray,
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God, I thank you
00:53:21.587 --> 00:53:23.055
for the person who's lookingat this screen right now, Lord.
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And I thank you for the dreamsthat you have given them.
00:53:26.258 --> 00:53:30.195
I thank you for thepast you've given them.
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I believe it's set them upfor where they are right now.
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It's set them up togo to the new place.
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Lord, would youplease put a prick
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in the back ofour neck right now
00:53:41.640 --> 00:53:43.175
on the thing thatwe've got to do.
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We can't do it all.
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We can't move on everything
00:53:45.978 --> 00:53:47.446
but there issomething right now,
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I know that now is the time.
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- [Matt] Thank you, Lord.
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- I ask for your presence,your grace to fall upon us
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as we go forwardin these things.
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And I pray that there will bea story inside the families
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inside the friendship circles
00:53:59.158 --> 00:54:00.959
that goes back to thisnight, this time we said,
00:54:00.959 --> 00:54:03.429
I remember when Godprompted me, He pushed me.
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I moved on somethingI hadn't moved before.
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And life is differentright now, I have more.
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God, would you please
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give what you wantto give these people,
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because we move, weaggressively pushed forward.
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And if you never giveme anything else God,
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you've given me enough andI'm thankful for it, Amen!
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- Grateful, thankfuland I want more.
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- Yeah I think we haveto come from that place.
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You know, it's not...
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I'm talking of antsy.
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It's not, "Oh, I don'tfeel God's presence.
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So I got to go dosomething novel."
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I've got to comefrom a foundation of,
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He's done more in me than Heshould have ever done on me.
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I have more stuff
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than I would have everthought that I would have.
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And all of us haveto come to that place
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of attitude of gratitude.
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- [Laurie] Yes.
00:54:51.343 --> 00:54:52.578
- And then not havethat Keep us back.
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But see there's new things
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that God wants to doin and through us.
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- [Laurie] Yeah, beautiful.
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- Well, I want more.
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I'm grateful, I'm thankful andit's holy that I want more.
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- [Brian] Yes it is.
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- I love that.
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Brian Tome, thank youfor being with us.
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We'll see you next time.
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Bye-bye
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