Praise | Darryl Strawberry & Jason Romano | 3/29/19
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Praise | Darryl Strawberry & Jason Romano | 3/29/19
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- - MALE ANNOUNCER: TONIGHT, ON
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- "PRAISE,"
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- FROM NEW YORK CITY:
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- FOUR-TIME WORLD SERIES CHAMPION
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- DARRYL STRAWBERRY;
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- AND SPORTS BROADCASTER
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- JASON ROMANO.
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- AND, NOW, CLIFTON DAVIS.
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- [LOUD APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
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- [CLIFTON LAUGHS HAPPILY]
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- - CLIFTON DAVIS: (MIMICKING
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- AUDIENCE CALLS) WHOOH-OOH!
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- HELLO, EVERYBODY!
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- [LOUD APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
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- HELLO!
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- [LAUGHS]
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- AWWW...
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- I LOVE YOU!
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- I LOVE YOU.
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- [LOUD APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
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- YOU MAKE ME FEEL SO GOOD.
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- YOU MAKE ME FEEL AT HOME
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- IN NEW YORK!
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- [LOUD APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
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- [CLIFTON LAUGHS]
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- AWWW...I TELL YOU...THIS IS A
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- GREAT PLACE TO BE.
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- HI, I'M CLIFTON DAVIS AND THIS
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- IS TBN NEW YORK...
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- ...A PLACE WHERE, EVERY TIME
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- YOU ARRIVE, YOU CAN EXPECT A
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- BLESSING.
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- [APPLAUSE]
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- OH, YEAH -- GOD IS ABOUT
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- BLESSING FOLK WHO COME IN HERE.
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- YOU'LL HEAR SOMETHING THAT'LL
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- HELP YOU IN LIFE, AND KEEP YOU
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- MOVING FORWARD, AND MOVING UP
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- TO THE NEXT LEVEL.
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- AND I FULLY EXPECT THAT THAT'S
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- GOING TO BE YOUR EXPERIENCE,
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- TODAY.
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- AND YOU WATCHING WHEREVER YOU
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- ARE AROUND THE WORLD, WELCOME!
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- THIS IS "PRAISE."
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- AND WE'RE GONNA DO JUST THAT.
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- MANY YEARS AGO-- IN FACT, IT
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- WAS 39 YEARS AGO.
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- THIRTY-NINE-- THANK YOU, JESUS.
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- THIRTY-NINE YEARS AGO...
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- [APPLAUSE]
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- ...I WAS SUFFERING FROM
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- ADDICTION.
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- I WAS ADDICTED TO ILLEGAL
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- SUBSTANCES, AND, MY LIFE
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- WAS HEADIN' THE WRONG WAY.
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- BUT I MET A MAN NAMED JESUS
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- ABOUT 39 YEARS AGO.
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- [APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
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- [CLIFTON LAUGHS]
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- AND, UH...AND, IT'S BEEN
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- AMAZING EVER SINCE, I'VE GOTTA
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- TELL YOU.
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- THE REASON I BROUGHT THAT UP IS
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- BECAUSE OUR THEME TONIGHT IS
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- ADDICTION AND FORGIVENESS.
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- AND WE'RE GONNA TALK TO OUR
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- GUESTS ABOUT THAT.
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- AND I WANT YOU TO MEET OUR
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- - FEMALE ANNOUNCER: FOUR-TIME
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- WORD SERIES CHAMPION
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- DARRYL STRAWBERRY IS A BASEBALL
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- LEGEND WITH A 17-YEAR CAREER
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- THAT INCLUDES EIGHT ALL-STAR
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- APPEARANCES.
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- DARRYL HAD A SUCCESSFUL CAREER
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- WITH THE NEW YORK METS,
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- LOS ANGELES DODGERS,
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- AND NEW YORK YANKEES.
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- BUT HE ALSO FACED HIS FAIR
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- SHARE OF CHALLENGES.
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- HE MANAGED TO OVERCOME THOSE
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- CHALLENGES TO FIND TRUE
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- REDEMPTION AND RESTORATION IN
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- JESUS CHRIST.
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- TODAY, DARRYL LEADS STRAWBERRY
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- MINISTRIES WITH HIS WIFE,
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- TRACY, AND TRAVELS THE COUNTRY
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- TO SPEAK ABOUT GOD'S REDEMPTIVE
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- POWER.
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- PLEASE WELCOME...
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- DARRYL STRAWBERRY.
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- [APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
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- - CLIFTON: GOD BLESS YOU,
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- BROTHER.
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- - DARRYL STRAWBERRY: GOD BLESS
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- YOU, TOO.
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- LOOK AT THAT.
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- HERE WE ARE.
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- - CLIFTON: IT'S AMAZING.
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- - DARRYL: ALL RIGHT.
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- YEAH.
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- - CLIFTON: OH, YEAH.
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- [APPLAUSE]
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- YEAH, A FEW METS, FEW YANKEES
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- FANS.
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- [CLIFTON LAUGHS]
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- - DARRYL: GOT A LITTLE BIT OF
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- EVERYTHING.
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- [APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
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- - CLIFTON: YEAH.
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- - DARRYL: YEAH.
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- GOOD.
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- [APPLAUSE]
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- - CLIFTON: IT'S A WONDERFUL
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- THING.
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- WELL, YOU CERTAINLY HAD A
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- STELLAR CAREER IN BASEBALL,
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- AND, UH, SO MANY ACCOLADES.
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- THE METS HALL OF FAME AND-- AND
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- SO MANY OTHER THINGS OVER THE
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- YEARS, BUT...BUT, HOW YOU GOT
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- INTO IT AND WHAT HAPPENED IN
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- YOUR CHILDHOOD IS SOMETHING
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- THAT MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW.
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- WOULD YOU SHARE WITH US SOME OF
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- WHAT YOUR CHILDHOOD EXPERIENCE
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- - DARRYL: YEAH, I MEAN, IT WAS
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- REALLY DYSFUNCTION.
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- MY DAD WAS AN ALCOHOLIC, AND,
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- UM...YOU KNOW, HE BEAT ME AND
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- MY BROTHERS AND SAID I'D NEVER
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- AMOUNT TO NOTHIN'.
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- AND, UM, WE BELIEVED IT.
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- HE CAME FOR THE LAST TIME WHEN
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- I WAS 14, PULLED OUT A SHOTGUN,
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- SAID HE WAS GONNA KILL THE
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- HE WAS DRUNK.
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- AND, ME AND MY BROTHERS WENT
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- INTO ACTION.
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- HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR MY MOTHER,
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- AH, WE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE
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- KILLED HIM.
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- - CLIFTON: MMH!
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- - DARRYL: THERE'S-- THERE'S NO
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- DOUBT ABOUT IT.
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- BUT, SHE GOT US OUT OF THE
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- HOUSE, AND...
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- SO, IT WAS A VERY PAINFUL
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- CHILDHOOD.
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- MOST PEOPLE SAW ME
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- PUT THE UNIFORM ON AND
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- THEY DON'T REALIZE THAT MY
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- PAIN LED ME TO MY GREATNESS.
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- - CLIFTON: MMH!
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- ISN'T THAT SOMETHING?
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- - DARRYL: YEAH. YEAH.
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- - CLIFTON: MY, MY, MY...
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- IT WAS A MOTIVATING FACTOR
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- THAT HELPED TO DRIVE YOU
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- FORWARD INTO YOUR ATHLETIC
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- PURSUITS?
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- - DARRYL: NO QUESTION ABOUT
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- IT.
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- I MEAN, WHEN YOU GROW UP IN A
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- SITUATION WHERE IT'S VERY
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- DYSFUNCTIONAL, IT'S HARD TO
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- REALLY IDENTIFY WHO YOU ARE.
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- BECAUSE, BEFORE I EVER PUT THE
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- UNIFORM ON, I WAS ALREADY
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- SCARRED.
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- I ALREADY HAD THE SCARS, YOU
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- KNOW, FROM MY FATHER.
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- - CLIFTON: MMH.
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- - DARRYL: SO, I WOULD SAY THAT
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- MY PAIN LED ME TO GREATNESS OF
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- WHO I WAS.
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- BUT MY GREATNESS WOULD, THEN,
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- EVENTUALLY LEAD ME TO MY
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- DESTRUCTIVE BEHAVIOR.
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- - CLIFTON: AH.
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- WELL, FIRST OF ALL,
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- HOW DID YOU GET INTO BASEBALL?
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- - DARRYL: WELL, IT WAS PRETTY
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- EASY.
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- I MEAN, I HAD A LOT OF GOOD
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- COACHES WHO KEPT DRAGGIN' ME
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- OUT OF THE HOUSE.
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- [CLIFTON LAUGHS]
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- YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T WANNA GO
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- PRACTICE, BUT THEY MADE SURE I
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- GOT UP AND...THEY MADE SURE I
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- DIDN'T GET CAUGHT UP INTO GIRLS
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- OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT 'CAUSE,
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- A LOT OF TIMES,
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- THAT WAS A DISTRACTION TO A
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- LOT OF PLAYERS WHEN THEY WERE
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- YOUNG BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO
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- HAVE THEIR GIRLFRIENDS.
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- AND THIS ONE COACH NAMED
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- MR. MOSELEY, HE WAS LIKE,
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- "YOU'RE NOT GONNA
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- HAVE A GIRLFRIEND."
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- - CLIFTON: THAT'S COLD.
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- - DARRYL: YEAH, I KNOW.
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- [LAUGHTER]
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- - CLIFTON: AND THAT'S NOT EASY
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- FOR A...A YOUNG MAN WITH--
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- - DARRYL: NO, IT'S NOT EASY--
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- - CLIFTON: --HORMONES RAGING.
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- - DARRYL: IT'S NOT EASY AT
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- ALL, BUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT HE DID
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- FOR ME WAS WHAT I COULDN'T DO
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- FOR MYSELF.
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- HE MADE ME FOCUS ON WHAT I
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- WANTED TO BE.
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- - CLIFTON: MM-HMM.
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- - DARRYL: HE MADE ME FOCUS ON
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- HOW GREAT I WANTED TO BE.
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- AND IT WAS ABOUT PRACTICE, IT
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- WAS ABOUT PRACTICE, IT WAS
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- ABOUT PRACTICE.
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- AND, ANYTIME YOU PRACTICE,
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- PRACTICE, PRACTICE IN ANYTHING
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- IN LIFE, YOU GONNA GET GOOD AT
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- IT.
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- - CLIFTON: YEAH.
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- - DARRYL: YOU KNOW, AND I
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- THINK A LOT OF TIMES THAT'S
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- WHERE A LOT OF US GO WRONG IN
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- OUR LIFE -- WE DON'T PRACTICE
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- ENOUGH.
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- AND WE CAN'T TO WHERE GOD
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- REALLY WANTS US TO GET.
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- AND...AND, FOR ME, I DIDN'T
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- REALLY KNOW AT THAT TIME, AH,
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- BUT I KNEW ONE THING: I HAD A
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- DRIVE INSIDE OF ME THAT WAS--
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- THAT WAS GREATER THAN PROBABLY
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- MOST GUYS.
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- WHILE MOST GUYS WERE IN
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- BED SLEEPING, I WAS UP IN THE
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- MORNING WORKING OUT, GETTIN'
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- AFTER IT, AND WANTING TO, UH,
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- BE THIS GREAT BASEBALL PLAYER.
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- - CLIFTON: MM-HMM.
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- WELL, NOW, HOW DID YOU FEEL
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- WHEN THAT SUCCESS FIRST CAME
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- AND WHEN YOU STARTED KNOCKING
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- THAT BALL OVER THE WALL, OVER
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- AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN?
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- [DARRYL LAUGHS]
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- - DARRYL: WELL, I FELT PRETTY
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- COOL THEN...YOU KNOW.
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- [LAUGHTER]
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- BUT, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS
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- INGRAINED INSIDE OF ME.
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- YOU KNOW, I MEAN I REALLY HAD A
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- DESIRE TO DO IT.
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- I WASN'T-- SEE, I THINK A LOT
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- OF TIMES WHAT HAPPENS TO US, AS
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- PEOPLE, WE'RE AFRAID...TO FAIL.
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- AND FAILURE'S A PART OF BEING
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- SUCCESSFUL.
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- - CLIFTON: MM-HMM.
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- - DARRYL: AND MOST GREAT
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- ATHLETES WILL COME TO THAT
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- PLACE AND KNOW THAT: I'M GONNA
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- HAVE SOME FAILURES, BUT WHAT DO
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- I DO AFTER THAT?
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- - CLIFTON: YEAH.
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- - DARRYL: YOU KNOW, DO I STAY
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- THERE OR DO I GET UP?
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- - CLIFTON: MM-HMM.
- 00:07:16.080 --> 00:07:16.250
- - DARRYL: YOU KNOW, AND THERE
- 00:07:16.250 --> 00:07:18.080
- WAS A LOT OF TIMES SOMEBODY'S
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- GONNA BEAT ME ON THAT GIVEN
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- NIGHT, BUT YOU'RE NOT GONNA
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- BEAT ME EVERY NIGHT.
- 00:07:21.160 --> 00:07:22.020
- - CLIFTON: MM-HMM.
- 00:07:22.020 --> 00:07:22.180
- - DARRYL: YOU KNOW.
- 00:07:22.180 --> 00:07:23.040
- AND THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS.
- 00:07:23.040 --> 00:07:23.250
- THERE'RE GONNA BE DAYS WHERE
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- YOU'RE GONNA GET ME, BUT I'M
- 00:07:24.200 --> 00:07:25.140
- GONNA ALWAYS REMEMBER IN THE
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- BACK OF MY HEAD THAT YOU GOT
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- ME.
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- AND WHEN IT COMES TIME FOR ME
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- TO GET YOU, I'M GONNA GET YOU.
- 00:07:30.060 --> 00:07:31.080
- - CLIFTON: UH-HUH.
- 00:07:31.080 --> 00:07:31.240
- - DARRYL: SO, I MEAN, THAT'S--
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- - CLIFTON: WELL, IT'S A
- 00:07:32.290 --> 00:07:33.170
- COMPETITIVE SPORT, YOU KNOW?
- 00:07:33.170 --> 00:07:34.070
- - DARRYL: YES.
- 00:07:34.070 --> 00:07:34.240
- I'M VERY COMPETITIVE, YOU KNOW,
- 00:07:34.240 --> 00:07:36.070
- AND YOU HAVE-- WELL, YOU JUST
- 00:07:36.070 --> 00:07:38.140
- HAVE TO BE UNDER CONTROL...
- 00:07:38.140 --> 00:07:39.250
- - CLIFTON: YEAH.
- 00:07:39.250 --> 00:07:40.260
- - DARRYL: ...UM, AS AN
- 00:07:40.260 --> 00:07:41.210
- ATHLETE.
- 00:07:41.210 --> 00:07:42.130
- THE GREAT ONES ARE ALWAYS UNDER
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- CONTROL AND WE KNOW HOW TO DO
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- IT.
- 00:07:44.290 --> 00:07:45.190
- I USED TO TELL PEOPLE -- THEY'D
- 00:07:45.190 --> 00:07:46.160
- SAY, "WELL, WHY WERE YOU SO
- 00:07:46.160 --> 00:07:48.010
- SUCCESSFUL...IN CERTAIN
- 00:07:48.010 --> 00:07:48.190
- SITUATIONS?"
- 00:07:48.190 --> 00:07:49.060
- BECAUSE I WIN THE BALLGAME FROM
- 00:07:49.060 --> 00:07:51.160
- THE ON-DECK CIRCLE.
- 00:07:51.160 --> 00:07:53.100
- I DIDN'T PLAY IT WHEN I WENT
- 00:07:53.100 --> 00:07:54.000
- INTO THE BATTLE SPOT.
- 00:07:54.000 --> 00:07:55.000
- I HAD A PLAN WHEN BEFORE I GOT
- 00:07:55.000 --> 00:07:56.070
- INTO THE BATTLE SPOTS.
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- - CLIFTON: MM-HMM.
- 00:07:56.240 --> 00:07:58.130
- - DARRYL: SO, THE ON-DECK
- 00:07:58.130 --> 00:07:59.080
- CIRCLE -- I'LL WATCH THE GAME,
- 00:07:59.080 --> 00:08:00.020
- WATCH THE FIELD, AND...WATCH
- 00:08:00.020 --> 00:08:01.100
- THE SITUATION, AND...AND I
- 00:08:01.100 --> 00:08:02.250
- KNEW...EVERY AT BAT.
- 00:08:02.250 --> 00:08:05.000
- 'CAUSE PITCHERS ARE DUMB.
- 00:08:05.000 --> 00:08:06.120
- [LAUGHTER]
- 00:08:06.120 --> 00:08:08.020
- AND...I JUST KNEW EVERY AT BAT
- 00:08:08.020 --> 00:08:10.090
- I'M GONNA GET TWO GOOD PITCHES
- 00:08:10.090 --> 00:08:12.150
- TO HIT.
- 00:08:12.150 --> 00:08:14.020
- ONE OF 'EM I GOTTA HIT.
- 00:08:14.020 --> 00:08:15.020
- AND, THAT'S UP TO ME.
- 00:08:15.020 --> 00:08:16.280
- IF I MISS THOSE TWO PITCHES,
- 00:08:16.280 --> 00:08:18.110
- THEN...THAT'S ON ME.
- 00:08:18.110 --> 00:08:19.220
- AND I ALWAYS--
- 00:08:19.220 --> 00:08:20.100
- - CLIFTON: THAT'S AN
- 00:08:20.100 --> 00:08:20.280
- INTERESTING PERSPECTIVE.
- 00:08:20.280 --> 00:08:21.230
- I NEVER-- I NEVER HEARD IT
- 00:08:21.230 --> 00:08:22.130
- QUITE LIKE THAT.
- 00:08:22.130 --> 00:08:23.140
- THAT'S GOOD.
- 00:08:23.140 --> 00:08:24.200
- OUT OF THAT AT BAT, YOU'RE
- 00:08:24.200 --> 00:08:27.050
- GONNA GET AT LEAST TWO-- TWO
- 00:08:27.050 --> 00:08:28.010
- GOOD PITCHES.
- 00:08:28.010 --> 00:08:28.280
- AND ONE OF 'EM...
- 00:08:28.280 --> 00:08:29.150
- - DARRYL: EVERY AT BAT, YOU
- 00:08:29.150 --> 00:08:30.240
- KNOW, YOU GONNA GET AT LEAST
- 00:08:30.240 --> 00:08:31.280
- TWO GOOD PITCHES.
- 00:08:31.280 --> 00:08:32.270
- ONE OF 'EM YOU GOTTA HIT.
- 00:08:32.270 --> 00:08:33.240
- I MAY FOUL ONE OFF, BUT THE
- 00:08:33.240 --> 00:08:34.290
- NEXT ONE I GOTTA GET.
- 00:08:34.290 --> 00:08:35.280
- YOU KNOW?
- 00:08:35.280 --> 00:08:36.120
- IT'S JUST A MINDSET.
- 00:08:36.120 --> 00:08:37.070
- IT'S HOW YOU SET YOUR MIND.
- 00:08:37.070 --> 00:08:38.180
- AND, IF YOU SET YOUR MIND AND
- 00:08:38.180 --> 00:08:40.010
- YOU'RE DETERMINED, YOU CAN BE
- 00:08:40.010 --> 00:08:42.170
- SUCCESSFUL AT WHATEVER YOU SET
- 00:08:42.170 --> 00:08:43.240
- YOUR MIND...TO DO.
- 00:08:43.260 --> 00:08:46.260
- - CLIFTON: SPEAKING OF
- 00:08:46.260 --> 00:08:48.090
- PITCHING, YOU BECAME GOOD
- 00:08:48.090 --> 00:08:49.160
- FRIENDS WITH DWIGHT GOODEN.
- 00:08:49.160 --> 00:08:50.290
- TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT
- 00:08:50.290 --> 00:08:52.220
- RELATIONSHIP, AND WHERE THAT
- 00:08:52.220 --> 00:08:53.260
- WENT, AND...HOW THAT...
- 00:08:53.260 --> 00:08:55.190
- INFLUENCED YOUR LIFE.
- 00:08:55.240 --> 00:08:58.240
- - DARRYL: WELL, IT WAS A GREAT
- 00:08:58.240 --> 00:09:01.240
- RELATIONSHIP FOR US BEING YOUNG
- 00:09:01.240 --> 00:09:03.000
- AFRICAN-AMERICANS PLAYING IN
- 00:09:03.000 --> 00:09:03.210
- NEW YORK CITY.
- 00:09:03.210 --> 00:09:04.080
- A LOT OF PRESSURE.
- 00:09:04.080 --> 00:09:04.270
- DWIGHT WAS 19 WHEN HE CAME UP.
- 00:09:04.270 --> 00:09:06.100
- I WAS 21.
- 00:09:06.100 --> 00:09:08.080
- UM, I HAD ALREADY BEEN IN THE
- 00:09:08.080 --> 00:09:09.050
- BIG LEAGUES AND WON ROOKIE OF
- 00:09:09.050 --> 00:09:10.290
- THE YEAR.
- 00:09:10.290 --> 00:09:11.160
- HE CAME RIGHT BEHIND ME AND WON
- 00:09:11.160 --> 00:09:12.080
- ROOKIE OF THE YEAR.
- 00:09:12.080 --> 00:09:12.250
- - CLIFTON: WOW.
- 00:09:12.250 --> 00:09:13.250
- - DARRYL: SO, THE EXPECTATIONS
- 00:09:13.250 --> 00:09:14.170
- WERE REALLY...OFF THE CHART.
- 00:09:14.170 --> 00:09:16.110
- - CLIFTON: MM-HMM.
- 00:09:16.110 --> 00:09:17.110
- - DARRYL: AND WE FULFILLED THE
- 00:09:17.110 --> 00:09:18.030
- PROMISES OF THE EXPECTATION.
- 00:09:18.030 --> 00:09:18.230
- BUT I WOULD SAY OUR
- 00:09:18.230 --> 00:09:20.250
- RELATIONSHIP IS GREAT TODAY.
- 00:09:20.250 --> 00:09:23.010
- I'M REALLY PROUD OF HIM.
- 00:09:23.010 --> 00:09:25.030
- WE'VE BOTH HAD OUR CHALLENGES
- 00:09:25.030 --> 00:09:27.010
- AND STRUGGLES.
- 00:09:27.010 --> 00:09:27.190
- - CLIFTON: MM-HMM.
- 00:09:27.190 --> 00:09:28.150
- - DARRYL: AND, YOU KNOW, OF
- 00:09:28.150 --> 00:09:29.220
- COURSE, ALL THE TIME, THE
- 00:09:29.220 --> 00:09:30.270
- MEDIA'S GONNA ALWAYS MAKE
- 00:09:30.270 --> 00:09:32.020
- SOMETHING OUT OF WHAT WE SAY.
- 00:09:32.020 --> 00:09:33.110
- UM, BUT IF I SAY SOMETHIN', I
- 00:09:33.110 --> 00:09:35.100
- SAY IT BECAUSE I LOVE YOU.
- 00:09:35.100 --> 00:09:37.150
- - CLIFTON: MM-HMM.
- 00:09:37.150 --> 00:09:38.060
- - DARRYL: YOU KNOW?
- 00:09:38.060 --> 00:09:38.250
- I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO GAIN.
- 00:09:38.250 --> 00:09:39.180
- I'M NOT LOOKIN' FOR FAME OR
- 00:09:39.180 --> 00:09:40.140
- FORTUNE.
- 00:09:40.140 --> 00:09:41.010
- YOU KNOW, MY LIFE HAS BEEN
- 00:09:41.010 --> 00:09:42.030
- CHANGED BY JESUS.
- 00:09:42.030 --> 00:09:43.090
- I WANT-- I WANT-- I WANT PEOPLE
- 00:09:43.090 --> 00:09:44.240
- TO EXPERIENCE THAT.
- 00:09:44.240 --> 00:09:45.160
- [APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
- 00:09:45.160 --> 00:09:46.070
- SO...
- 00:09:46.070 --> 00:09:47.010
- [APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
- 00:09:51.270 --> 00:09:54.270
- - CLIFTON: SO-- SO, YOU WERE
- 00:09:54.270 --> 00:09:55.260
- ENJOYING SO MUCH SUCCESS.
- 00:09:55.260 --> 00:09:57.060
- HOW DID ADDICTION WEAVE ITS WAY
- 00:09:57.150 --> 00:10:00.150
- INTO YOUR LIFE?
- 00:10:00.150 --> 00:10:02.050
- WELL, ADDICTION NEVER WEAVES
- 00:10:05.040 --> 00:10:05.240
- ITS WAY INTO YOUR LIFE.
- 00:10:05.240 --> 00:10:06.120
- IT'S A SPIRITUAL BROKENNESS,
- 00:10:06.120 --> 00:10:07.030
- YOU KNOW?
- 00:10:07.030 --> 00:10:09.220
- AND IT'S A DISCONNECTION FROM
- 00:10:09.220 --> 00:10:10.130
- GOD HIMSELF.
- 00:10:10.130 --> 00:10:13.060
- WHAT ADDICTION IS--
- 00:10:13.060 --> 00:10:13.270
- SEE, LAWLESSNESS BRINGS...ABOUT
- 00:10:14.150 --> 00:10:17.150
- ALL KIND OF THINGS, ABOUT
- 00:10:17.150 --> 00:10:18.290
- AND ADDICTION IS A SPIRITUAL
- 00:10:21.180 --> 00:10:22.260
- BROKENNESS AND ONE FEELS EMPTY
- 00:10:22.260 --> 00:10:23.170
- ON THE INSIDE, SO WHEN ONE TRIED
- 00:10:23.170 --> 00:10:25.110
- TO PICK UP A DRINK,
- 00:10:25.110 --> 00:10:27.260
- OR I TRIED TO PICK UP A
- 00:10:28.020 --> 00:10:31.020
- DRUG HE'S TRYING TO ESCAPE
- 00:10:31.020 --> 00:10:31.240
- FROM WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING ON
- 00:10:31.240 --> 00:10:33.010
- THE INSIDE.
- 00:10:33.010 --> 00:10:33.280
- HE'S TRYING TO HIDE HIMSELF
- 00:10:33.280 --> 00:10:35.040
- FROM, REALLY, WHAT'S GOING ON
- 00:10:35.040 --> 00:10:36.070
- ON THE INSIDE.
- 00:10:36.070 --> 00:10:37.050
- AND I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT UNTIL
- 00:10:37.050 --> 00:10:38.000
- YEARS AND YEARS OF GOING
- 00:10:38.000 --> 00:10:40.100
- THROUGH ADDICTION AND REALIZING
- 00:10:40.100 --> 00:10:42.000
- THAT THE POWER OF IT IS THE
- 00:10:42.000 --> 00:10:43.210
- SPIRITUAL BROKENNESS --
- 00:10:43.210 --> 00:10:45.020
- SEPARATED FROM GOD.
- 00:10:45.020 --> 00:10:46.230
- ADDICTION IS SIN, JUST LIKE
- 00:10:47.060 --> 00:10:50.060
- ANYTHING ELSE, YOU KNOW?
- 00:10:50.060 --> 00:10:51.220
- AND WHAT IS SIN?
- 00:10:51.220 --> 00:10:52.190
- WHAT DOES SIN DOES?
- 00:10:52.190 --> 00:10:54.120
- SIN KEEPS YOU COMPLETELY
- 00:10:54.120 --> 00:10:55.050
- SEPARATED FROM GOD.
- 00:10:55.050 --> 00:10:57.020
- AND THAT'S WHAT ADDICTION
- 00:10:57.020 --> 00:10:58.030
- DOES --
- 00:10:58.030 --> 00:10:58.200
- IT KEEPS YOU SEPARATED,
- 00:10:58.200 --> 00:11:00.100
- COMPLETELY SEPARATED,
- 00:11:00.100 --> 00:11:01.170
- SO YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO HAVE A
- 00:11:01.170 --> 00:11:04.050
- RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD YOURSELF.
- 00:11:04.050 --> 00:11:05.220
- UH, ONCE ONE ALTER THEIR MIND,
- 00:11:05.220 --> 00:11:08.100
- THEIR MIND HAS CHANGED.
- 00:11:08.100 --> 00:11:10.050
- AND WHEN I STARTED WITH-- AT
- 00:11:10.050 --> 00:11:12.100
- THE AGE OF 14, 15 YEARS OLD
- 00:11:12.100 --> 00:11:14.040
- SMOKIN' MARIJUANA, WHICH IS THE
- 00:11:14.040 --> 00:11:15.270
- MAIN MARIJUANA TODAY,
- 00:11:15.270 --> 00:11:18.200
- WHERE EVERYBODY SMOKES.
- 00:11:18.200 --> 00:11:19.220
- I'M NOT TALKIN' ABOUT PEOPLE
- 00:11:19.220 --> 00:11:20.260
- THAT HAS HEALTH PROBLEMS.
- 00:11:20.260 --> 00:11:22.150
- I'M TALKIN' ABOUT YOUNG PEOPLE
- 00:11:22.150 --> 00:11:24.060
- THAT'S PICKIN' UP MARIJUANA AND
- 00:11:24.060 --> 00:11:25.130
- STARTIN' TO SMOKE IT.
- 00:11:25.130 --> 00:11:26.100
- IT ALTERS THEIR MIND, IT
- 00:11:26.100 --> 00:11:27.220
- CHANGES THEIR MIND, IT DOESN'T
- 00:11:27.220 --> 00:11:29.080
- LAST FOREVER, THEN YOU GOTTA GO
- 00:11:29.080 --> 00:11:30.230
- TO SOMETHING STRONGER.
- 00:11:30.230 --> 00:11:33.060
- AND THAT'S WHAT ADDICTION IS --
- 00:11:33.060 --> 00:11:34.070
- IT'S THE GRIPS OF DARKNESS, UM,
- 00:11:34.070 --> 00:11:37.000
- AND WHAT IT DOES -- IT ROBS YOU
- 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:39.090
- FROM YOUR SOUL.
- 00:11:39.090 --> 00:11:40.230
- IT ROBS YOU FROM, UH, YOUR
- 00:11:40.230 --> 00:11:43.140
- LOVED ONES, AND IT TAKES YOU TO
- 00:11:43.140 --> 00:11:46.040
- PLACES THAT YOU COULD NEVER
- 00:11:46.040 --> 00:11:47.280
- IMAGINE, AND IT KEEPS YOU THERE
- 00:11:47.280 --> 00:11:49.060
- LONGER THAN YOU COULD EVER WANT
- 00:11:49.060 --> 00:11:50.020
- TO BE THERE.
- 00:11:50.020 --> 00:11:51.280
- - CLIFTON: MMH...MMH-MHH-
- 00:11:51.280 --> 00:11:52.170
- MMH...
- 00:11:52.170 --> 00:11:53.060
- WELL, THE CHALLENGES THAT IT
- 00:11:55.020 --> 00:11:58.020
- HELPED PRESENT IN YOUR LIFE
- 00:11:58.020 --> 00:11:59.040
- WERE QUITE HEAVY.
- 00:11:59.040 --> 00:12:01.140
- IN FACT, YOU SPENT SOME TIME IN
- 00:12:01.140 --> 00:12:03.200
- JAIL.
- 00:12:03.200 --> 00:12:04.260
- WAS THAT A GROWING EXPERIENCE
- 00:12:04.260 --> 00:12:05.200
- FOR YOU?
- 00:12:05.200 --> 00:12:07.230
- WAS THAT A LEARNING EXPERIENCE?
- 00:12:08.190 --> 00:12:11.190
- - DARRYL: I ALWAYS SAY GOD
- 00:12:11.190 --> 00:12:12.090
- HAS A WONDERFUL PLAN.
- 00:12:12.090 --> 00:12:12.260
- SEE, WHAT MOST PEOPLE DON'T
- 00:12:12.260 --> 00:12:14.270
- UNDERSTAND: MAN DOESN'T HAVE A
- 00:12:14.270 --> 00:12:16.010
- PLAN.
- 00:12:16.010 --> 00:12:16.260
- YOU KNOW, HE BELIEVES HE HAS A
- 00:12:16.260 --> 00:12:18.040
- PLAN.
- 00:12:18.040 --> 00:12:18.190
- HE HAS A PLAN TO CRITICIZE YOU,
- 00:12:18.190 --> 00:12:19.290
- WRITE ABOUT YOU, AND TALK ABOUT
- 00:12:19.290 --> 00:12:21.050
- YOU.
- 00:12:21.050 --> 00:12:21.170
- - CLIFTON: YEAH.
- 00:12:21.170 --> 00:12:22.120
- - DARRYL: BUT GOD HAS THIS
- 00:12:23.030 --> 00:12:26.030
- MASTERPIECE PLAN THAT NO MATTER
- 00:12:26.030 --> 00:12:28.250
- WHERE HE PUTS YOU, HE PUTS YOU
- 00:12:28.250 --> 00:12:29.160
- THERE FOR A REASON.
- 00:12:29.160 --> 00:12:30.020
- SEE, WHEN YOU UNDERSTAND, WHEN
- 00:12:30.020 --> 00:12:30.230
- YOU UNDERSTAND BIBLICAL
- 00:12:30.230 --> 00:12:31.110
- PRINCIPLES AND YOU GO THROUGH
- 00:12:31.110 --> 00:12:32.070
- THE BIBLE, THEY ALL HAD ISSUES
- 00:12:32.070 --> 00:12:32.280
- JUST LIKE US.
- 00:12:32.280 --> 00:12:33.260
- - CLIFTON: YES, YES.
- 00:12:33.260 --> 00:12:34.130
- - DARRYL: DAVID WAS A
- 00:12:34.130 --> 00:12:35.290
- WOMANIZER -- YOU KNOW,
- 00:12:35.290 --> 00:12:37.090
- PUT HIS BEST MAN, URIAH,
- 00:12:37.090 --> 00:12:38.190
- ON THE FRONTLINE TO GET KILLED.
- 00:12:38.190 --> 00:12:39.290
- UM, JONAH -- GOD TOLD HIM TO
- 00:12:39.290 --> 00:12:41.270
- GOT NINEVEH.
- 00:12:41.270 --> 00:12:44.030
- HE JUMPED ON A BOAT, GO THE
- 00:12:44.030 --> 00:12:45.250
- OTHER WAY TO TARSHISH.
- 00:12:45.250 --> 00:12:47.030
- - CLIFTON: YEAH.
- 00:12:47.030 --> 00:12:47.190
- - DARRYL: DISOBEYING GOD.
- 00:12:47.190 --> 00:12:48.170
- HOW MANY OF US DO THAT?
- 00:12:48.170 --> 00:12:49.110
- WE ALL DO THAT.
- 00:12:49.110 --> 00:12:49.260
- - CLIFTON: YEAH.
- 00:12:49.260 --> 00:12:50.120
- - DARRYL: BUT GOD DID NOT
- 00:12:50.120 --> 00:12:51.110
- REJECT HIM.
- 00:12:51.110 --> 00:12:52.080
- YOU KNOW, HE JUST LET YOU GO
- 00:12:52.080 --> 00:12:53.160
- AHEAD AND HAVE YOUR WAY AND GO,
- 00:12:53.160 --> 00:12:54.230
- YOU KNOW?
- 00:12:54.230 --> 00:12:55.290
- AND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT,
- 00:12:55.290 --> 00:12:57.110
- YOU KNOW, MOSES WAS USED
- 00:12:57.110 --> 00:12:59.010
- MIGHTILY BY GOD BECAUSE OF HIS
- 00:12:59.010 --> 00:13:00.130
- MEEKNESS, BUT HE HAD A SPEECH
- 00:13:00.130 --> 00:13:02.070
- IMPEDIMENT.
- 00:13:02.070 --> 00:13:02.240
- - CLIFTON: MM-HMM.
- 00:13:02.240 --> 00:13:03.110
- - DARRYL: AND, YOU KNOW, HE
- 00:13:03.110 --> 00:13:04.160
- DIDN'T WANNA DO WHAT GOD CALLED
- 00:13:04.160 --> 00:13:05.140
- HIM TO DO.
- 00:13:05.140 --> 00:13:06.200
- BUT, YOU KNOW, ALL HAVE ISSUES
- 00:13:06.200 --> 00:13:08.050
- AND GOD SEES THOSE ISSUES IN
- 00:13:08.050 --> 00:13:09.290
- ONE'S LIFE.
- 00:13:09.290 --> 00:13:12.090
- AND MY LIFE WAS NO DIFFERENT.
- 00:13:12.090 --> 00:13:13.000
- I JUST HAPPENED TO BE IN THE
- 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:13.210
- PUBLIC EYE.
- 00:13:13.210 --> 00:13:15.040
- BUT, THE GOOD-- THE GREATEST
- 00:13:15.040 --> 00:13:16.070
- THING I LOVE ABOUT JESUS IS
- 00:13:16.070 --> 00:13:17.170
- JESUS SHOWED HIS SCARS.
- 00:13:17.170 --> 00:13:19.260
- - CLIFTON: MMH...
- 00:13:19.260 --> 00:13:20.280
- - DARRYL: SEE, PEOPLE ARE
- 00:13:20.280 --> 00:13:22.100
- AFRAID TO SHOW THEIR SCARS.
- 00:13:22.100 --> 00:13:24.210
- SEE, I'M NOT AFRAID TO SHOW MY
- 00:13:24.210 --> 00:13:25.200
- SCARS, YOU KNOW--
- 00:13:25.200 --> 00:13:26.240
- - CLIFTON: I HEAR YA.
- 00:13:26.240 --> 00:13:27.120
- - DARRYL: --BECAUSE-- SEE,
- 00:13:27.120 --> 00:13:28.150
- BECAUSE JESUS ALREADY DID IT ON
- 00:13:28.150 --> 00:13:29.070
- THE CROSS...
- 00:13:29.070 --> 00:13:29.210
- - CLIFTON: MM-HMM.
- 00:13:29.210 --> 00:13:30.190
- - DARRYL: ...FOR YOU, YOU
- 00:13:30.190 --> 00:13:31.090
- KNOW?
- 00:13:31.090 --> 00:13:32.030
- [APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
- 00:13:32.030 --> 00:13:33.120
- SO, I THINK...
- 00:13:33.120 --> 00:13:34.020
- [APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
- 00:13:38.210 --> 00:13:41.210
- I THINK IN A SOCIETY...I THINK
- 00:13:41.210 --> 00:13:42.250
- IN A SOCIETY WE'VE GOTTEN AWAY
- 00:13:42.250 --> 00:13:43.160
- FROM SHOWING OUR SCARS.
- 00:13:43.160 --> 00:13:44.090
- - CLIFTON: MMH...
- 00:13:44.090 --> 00:13:44.250
- - DARRYL: WE CAN'T HELP NOBODY
- 00:13:44.250 --> 00:13:45.240
- IF WE AIN'T NEVER BEEN THROUGH
- 00:13:45.240 --> 00:13:46.160
- NOTHIN'.
- 00:13:46.160 --> 00:13:46.260
- - CLIFTON: THAT'S RIGHT.
- 00:13:46.260 --> 00:13:47.190
- - DARRYL: YOU KNOW, SO MANY OF
- 00:13:47.190 --> 00:13:49.180
- WANNA SAY JESUS, BUT HAVE YOU
- 00:13:49.180 --> 00:13:51.000
- BEEN THROUGH SOMETHING TO TELL
- 00:13:51.000 --> 00:13:51.210
- SOMEONE ELSE THAT JESUS IS THE
- 00:13:51.210 --> 00:13:53.040
- MESSIAH?
- 00:13:53.040 --> 00:13:54.190
- YOU KNOW?
- 00:13:54.190 --> 00:13:55.190
- HAVE YOU COME TO THAT PLACE
- 00:13:55.190 --> 00:13:57.190
- WHERE YOU'RE NOT AFRAID, YOU'RE
- 00:13:57.190 --> 00:13:59.100
- NOT ASHAMED OF THE GOOD NEWS?
- 00:13:59.100 --> 00:14:01.110
- YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE WE'RE MORE
- 00:14:01.110 --> 00:14:02.250
- CONSUMED ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE
- 00:14:02.250 --> 00:14:04.150
- THINK ABOUT US AND OUR IMAGE
- 00:14:04.150 --> 00:14:06.210
- AND EVERYTHING INSTEAD OF WHAT
- 00:14:06.210 --> 00:14:08.010
- HE'S ALREADY DONE ON CALVARY.
- 00:14:08.010 --> 00:14:08.220
- SEE, AND WHAT WE NEED TO
- 00:14:08.220 --> 00:14:10.240
- UNDERSTAND -- EARLY SUNDAY
- 00:14:10.240 --> 00:14:12.050
- MORNING, HE GOT UP FROM THAT
- 00:14:12.050 --> 00:14:12.260
- TOMB.
- 00:14:12.260 --> 00:14:13.050
- - CLIFTON: YES.
- 00:14:13.050 --> 00:14:13.190
- - DARRYL: AND WHEN HE GOT UP
- 00:14:13.190 --> 00:14:14.100
- FROM THAT TOMB, HE GOT UP FROM
- 00:14:14.100 --> 00:14:15.010
- ALL POWER.
- 00:14:15.010 --> 00:14:15.120
- SO, WE GOTTA UNDERSTAND THAT
- 00:14:15.120 --> 00:14:16.020
- WE GOT--
- 00:14:16.020 --> 00:14:17.040
- GALATIANS 2:20 TALKS ABOUT IT.
- 00:14:17.040 --> 00:14:18.130
- "I HAVE BEEN CRUCIFIED WITH
- 00:14:18.130 --> 00:14:19.150
- CHRIST.
- 00:14:19.150 --> 00:14:21.080
- IT IS NO LONGER I WHO LIVE; IT
- 00:14:21.080 --> 00:14:22.160
- IS CHRIST WHO LIVES IN ME."
- 00:14:22.160 --> 00:14:23.060
- - CLIFTON: YES, SIR.
- 00:14:23.060 --> 00:14:23.260
- [APPLAUSE]
- 00:14:23.260 --> 00:14:24.130
- - DARRYL: SO, THAT'S WHAT--
- 00:14:24.130 --> 00:14:25.040
- THAT'S WHAT WE GOTTA TALK
- 00:14:25.040 --> 00:14:26.290
- ABOUT.
- 00:14:26.290 --> 00:14:27.120
- WE GOTTA TALK ABOUT THE BIBLE.
- 00:14:27.120 --> 00:14:28.030
- WE GOTTA STOP TALKIN' ABOUT
- 00:14:28.030 --> 00:14:28.240
- THIS FOOLISHNESS.
- 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:29.220
- AND THE POWER IS STILL IN THAT
- 00:14:29.220 --> 00:14:31.000
- BIBLE.
- 00:14:31.000 --> 00:14:32.230
- IT'S NEVER GONNA CHANGE.
- 00:14:32.230 --> 00:14:33.120
- "HEAVEN AND EARTH GONNA PASS
- 00:14:33.120 --> 00:14:34.070
- AWAY, BUT NOT MY WORD."
- 00:14:34.070 --> 00:14:34.250
- THAT BIBLE IS GONNA ALWAYS
- 00:14:34.250 --> 00:14:36.070
- CHANGE YOU, REGARDLESS OF
- 00:14:36.070 --> 00:14:37.270
- WHATEVER YOU GO THROUGH.
- 00:14:37.270 --> 00:14:39.090
- AND, IT'S PART OF GOING THROUGH
- 00:14:39.090 --> 00:14:40.250
- IT.
- 00:14:40.250 --> 00:14:41.070
- SEE, WHAT I LOVE ABOUT GOD SO
- 00:14:41.070 --> 00:14:42.110
- MUCH IS, YOU KNOW, BEING IN
- 00:14:42.210 --> 00:14:45.210
- PRISON WITH A T17169, GOD WAS
- 00:14:45.210 --> 00:14:47.190
- DOING FOR ME WHAT I COULDN'T DO
- 00:14:47.190 --> 00:14:49.090
- FOR MYSELF.
- 00:14:49.090 --> 00:14:49.230
- HE WAS SPARIN' MY LIFE.
- 00:14:49.230 --> 00:14:51.240
- - CLIFTON: MMH!
- 00:14:51.240 --> 00:14:52.080
- - DARRYL: YOU KNOW?
- 00:14:52.080 --> 00:14:53.010
- 'CAUSE I'M STILL HERE TODAY
- 00:14:53.010 --> 00:14:54.040
- TO BE A--
- 00:14:54.040 --> 00:14:54.210
- - CLIFTON: PRAISE GOD.
- 00:14:54.210 --> 00:14:55.140
- - DARRYL: --BE A WITNESS FOR
- 00:14:55.140 --> 00:14:56.050
- HIM.
- 00:14:56.050 --> 00:14:56.130
- - CLIFTON: YEP.
- 00:14:56.130 --> 00:14:57.000
- - DARRYL: AND WHEN YOU THINK
- 00:14:57.000 --> 00:14:57.210
- ABOUT IT...
- 00:14:57.210 --> 00:14:58.030
- [APPLAUSE]
- 00:14:58.030 --> 00:15:00.120
- WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT--
- 00:15:00.160 --> 00:15:03.160
- WHEN YOU LOOK BACK AND YOU
- 00:15:03.160 --> 00:15:04.270
- THINK ABOUT IT, HE-- I
- 00:15:04.270 --> 00:15:06.140
- ALWAYS...I ALWAYS, DEEP DOWN
- 00:15:06.140 --> 00:15:09.040
- INSIDE, KNEW THAT GOD HAD A
- 00:15:09.040 --> 00:15:10.160
- PLAN.
- 00:15:10.160 --> 00:15:12.150
- - CLIFTON: MM-HMM.
- 00:15:12.150 --> 00:15:13.070
- - DARRYL: I JUST HAD TO GET IN
- 00:15:13.070 --> 00:15:13.290
- THE PLAN.
- 00:15:13.290 --> 00:15:14.100
- - CLIFTON: THAT'S RIGHT,
- 00:15:14.100 --> 00:15:14.290
- THAT'S RIGHT.
- 00:15:14.290 --> 00:15:15.120
- - DARRYL: YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY
- 00:15:15.120 --> 00:15:16.030
- DID I END UP IN THE FLORIDA
- 00:15:16.030 --> 00:15:17.040
- STATE PRISON, I ENDED UP A
- 00:15:17.040 --> 00:15:18.040
- CANCER TWICE AND LOSIN' MY LEFT
- 00:15:18.040 --> 00:15:19.120
- KIDNEY IN MY SECOND SURGERY.
- 00:15:19.120 --> 00:15:20.160
- SO, IF YOU-- JESUS IS A
- 00:15:20.160 --> 00:15:21.150
- MIRACLE.
- 00:15:21.150 --> 00:15:22.270
- IF YOU GO TO THE BIBLE AND THE
- 00:15:22.270 --> 00:15:24.130
- BOOK OF JOHN, IT'S ABOUT
- 00:15:24.130 --> 00:15:25.240
- BELIEVING.
- 00:15:25.240 --> 00:15:26.160
- JESUS DID MIRACLES -- TURNING
- 00:15:26.160 --> 00:15:27.270
- WATER INTO WINE, FEEDING OF THE
- 00:15:27.270 --> 00:15:29.030
- 5.000.
- 00:15:29.030 --> 00:15:29.190
- HE DID ALL KIND OF MIRACLES
- 00:15:29.190 --> 00:15:32.060
- AFTER MIRACLES.
- 00:15:32.060 --> 00:15:33.100
- HE'S STILL DOIN' THE SAME
- 00:15:33.100 --> 00:15:34.180
- MIRACLES TODAY.
- 00:15:34.180 --> 00:15:35.040
- - CLIFTON: COME ON!
- 00:15:35.040 --> 00:15:36.000
- - DARRYL: YOU KNOW?
- 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:36.160
- - CLIFTON: YES, YES.
- 00:15:36.160 --> 00:15:37.080
- [APPLAUSE]
- 00:15:37.080 --> 00:15:37.240
- AND THE THING ABOUT...THE THING
- 00:15:38.150 --> 00:15:41.150
- ABOUT REVEALING THE SCARS -- IT
- 00:15:41.150 --> 00:15:42.260
- SHOWS THAT YOU'VE BEEN HURT
- 00:15:42.260 --> 00:15:44.160
- BEFORE, BUT IT ALSO SHOWS
- 00:15:44.160 --> 00:15:45.270
- YOU'VE BEEN HEALED.
- 00:15:45.270 --> 00:15:47.290
- - DARRYL: RIGHT.
- 00:15:47.290 --> 00:15:48.150
- - CLIFTON: SCARS ARE THE SIGN
- 00:15:48.150 --> 00:15:49.060
- OF HEALING!
- 00:15:49.060 --> 00:15:51.230
- - DARRYL: SCARS ARE THE SIGN
- 00:15:51.230 --> 00:15:52.140
- OF HEALING.
- 00:15:52.140 --> 00:15:52.260
- WHEN YOU CAN UNDERSTAND
- 00:15:52.260 --> 00:15:55.110
- CAVALRY AND UNDERSTAND THAT
- 00:15:55.110 --> 00:15:57.100
- CROSS, AND HIM SHEDDING HIS
- 00:15:57.100 --> 00:15:58.250
- BLOOD ON THAT CROSS,
- 00:15:58.250 --> 00:15:59.250
- THAT BLOOD IS CLEAN ON
- 00:15:59.250 --> 00:16:02.030
- THAT CROSS.
- 00:16:02.030 --> 00:16:02.180
- - CLIFTON: ALL RIGHT.
- 00:16:02.180 --> 00:16:03.130
- - DARRYL: YOU KNOW, THAT BLOOD
- 00:16:03.130 --> 00:16:04.140
- ON THAT CROSS IS CLEAN.
- 00:16:04.140 --> 00:16:05.040
- HE'S A SINLESS MAN WITH NO SIN,
- 00:16:05.040 --> 00:16:06.290
- YOU KNOW.
- 00:16:06.290 --> 00:16:08.190
- - CLIFTON: THAT'S RIGHT.
- 00:16:08.190 --> 00:16:10.010
- - DARRYL: SO, ALL THE REST OF
- 00:16:10.010 --> 00:16:10.220
- US ARE GONNA FALL SHORT, BUT
- 00:16:10.220 --> 00:16:11.160
- THAT MAN THERE -- HE DIDN'T
- 00:16:11.160 --> 00:16:12.060
- FALL SHORT.
- 00:16:12.060 --> 00:16:12.270
- THE VICTORY -- HE GAVE US THE
- 00:16:12.270 --> 00:16:14.100
- VICTORY, GOING TO THE CROSS.
- 00:16:14.100 --> 00:16:16.080
- SO, IT'S UP TO US TO RECEIVE
- 00:16:16.080 --> 00:16:17.130
- IT, IT'S UP TO US TO UNDERSTAND
- 00:16:17.130 --> 00:16:19.250
- IT, IT'S UP TO US TO LEARN THE
- 00:16:19.250 --> 00:16:21.060
- WORD OF GOD.
- 00:16:21.060 --> 00:16:23.250
- AND THE REASON WHY PEOPLE
- 00:16:23.250 --> 00:16:25.050
- STRUGGLE SO MUCH -- 'CAUSE THE
- 00:16:25.050 --> 00:16:25.260
- BIBLE SAYS, "MY PEOPLE PERISH
- 00:16:25.260 --> 00:16:26.250
- BECAUSE OF LACK OF KNOWLEDGE,"
- 00:16:26.250 --> 00:16:28.290
- -- THERE'S NO KNOWLEDGE AND
- 00:16:28.290 --> 00:16:30.020
- UNDERSTANDING OF GOD'S WORD.
- 00:16:30.020 --> 00:16:31.060
- WE UNDERSTAND ALL THIS EARTHLY
- 00:16:31.060 --> 00:16:32.110
- FOOLISHNESS, BUT WE DON'T
- 00:16:32.110 --> 00:16:34.060
- UNDERSTAND THE KINGDOM STUFF.
- 00:16:34.060 --> 00:16:36.070
- AND ONCE THEY GET INTO THE
- 00:16:36.070 --> 00:16:37.150
- BIBLICAL PRINCIPLES, AND YOU
- 00:16:37.150 --> 00:16:39.090
- STUDY GOD'S WORD AND SATURATE
- 00:16:39.090 --> 00:16:41.030
- YOURSELF, AND LAY WITH GOD,
- 00:16:41.030 --> 00:16:41.290
- THEN YOU KNOW GOD.
- 00:16:41.290 --> 00:16:43.100
- - CLIFTON: MMH...MMH.
- 00:16:43.100 --> 00:16:43.270
- - DARRYL: YOU KNOW, THEN YOU
- 00:16:43.270 --> 00:16:44.290
- KNOW GOD, YOU KNOW.
- 00:16:44.290 --> 00:16:45.160
- AND THAT'S WHAT THE PEOPLE NEED
- 00:16:45.160 --> 00:16:46.130
- TO COME BACK.
- 00:16:46.130 --> 00:16:47.100
- DRUG-ADDICTION PEOPLE --
- 00:16:47.100 --> 00:16:49.010
- 2 CHRONICLES 7:14 SAID, "IF MY
- 00:16:49.010 --> 00:16:50.020
- PEOPLE, WHO ARE CALLED BY MY
- 00:16:50.020 --> 00:16:51.100
- NAME, WILL HUMBLE THEMSELVES
- 00:16:51.100 --> 00:16:52.190
- AND PRAY AND SEEK...
- 00:16:52.190 --> 00:16:53.060
- [CLIFTON ALSO RECITING VERSE]
- 00:16:53.060 --> 00:16:54.010
- - CLIFTON: ...MY FACE...
- 00:16:54.190 --> 00:16:57.190
- - DARRYL: ...AND TURN..."
- 00:16:57.190 --> 00:16:58.080
- YOU KNOW?
- 00:16:58.080 --> 00:16:58.190
- HE SAYS ALL THESE WONDERFUL
- 00:16:58.190 --> 00:16:59.090
- THINGS, BUT THE PEOPLE HAVE TO
- 00:16:59.090 --> 00:17:00.030
- DO IT.
- 00:17:00.030 --> 00:17:02.070
- AND I THINK THE PROBLEM IS WITH
- 00:17:02.070 --> 00:17:03.090
- MOST PEOPLE -- THEY WON'T DO
- 00:17:03.090 --> 00:17:04.220
- IT.
- 00:17:04.220 --> 00:17:05.130
- THEY DON'T BELIEVE HE'S THE
- 00:17:05.130 --> 00:17:06.060
- ONE.
- 00:17:06.060 --> 00:17:06.210
- - CLIFTON: WELL, GOD IS
- 00:17:06.210 --> 00:17:08.210
- OFFERING IT UP FREE AND CLEAR.
- 00:17:09.100 --> 00:17:12.100
- AND, YOU NEED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE
- 00:17:12.100 --> 00:17:13.020
- OF THAT.
- 00:17:13.020 --> 00:17:13.250
- TELL ME HOW YOU MET THAT
- 00:17:13.250 --> 00:17:15.070
- INCREDIBLY BEAUTIFUL WOMAN
- 00:17:15.150 --> 00:17:18.150
- WHO'S MARRIED TO YOU -- TRACY.
- 00:17:18.150 --> 00:17:20.100
- - DARRYL: WELL, IT WAS A SIGN
- 00:17:20.100 --> 00:17:21.280
- OF GOD ALWAYS WILL SEND PEOPLE
- 00:17:21.280 --> 00:17:23.230
- IN YOUR LIFE.
- 00:17:23.230 --> 00:17:24.140
- - CLIFTON: MM-HMM.
- 00:17:24.140 --> 00:17:25.050
- - DARRYL: IN ALL OUR LIVES, HE
- 00:17:25.050 --> 00:17:26.260
- ALWAYS SENDS SOMEBODY.
- 00:17:26.260 --> 00:17:27.260
- YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU-- YOU AT THE
- 00:17:27.260 --> 00:17:29.080
- BOTTOM, AT THE WORST TIME OF
- 00:17:29.080 --> 00:17:30.200
- YOUR LIFE, YOU KNOW.
- 00:17:30.200 --> 00:17:31.250
- I WAS SHOOTIN' DOPE, SMOKIN'
- 00:17:31.250 --> 00:17:33.020
- CRACK, AND SHE HAD ONE YEAR
- 00:17:33.020 --> 00:17:33.290
- CLEAN.
- 00:17:33.290 --> 00:17:34.230
- - CLIFTON: MMH.
- 00:17:34.230 --> 00:17:35.170
- - DARRYL: NOBODY WOULD TOUCH
- 00:17:35.170 --> 00:17:36.080
- ME.
- 00:17:36.080 --> 00:17:36.250
- DIDN'T WANNA HAVE ANYTHING TO
- 00:17:36.250 --> 00:17:37.160
- DO WITH ME.
- 00:17:37.160 --> 00:17:38.220
- I WAS $3 MILLION IN DEBT,
- 00:17:38.220 --> 00:17:39.110
- DIDN'T HAVE A DRIVER'S LICENSE.
- 00:17:39.110 --> 00:17:40.120
- SHE WAS BANGIN' ON DOORS,
- 00:17:40.120 --> 00:17:41.140
- PULLIN' ME OUT OF DOPE HOUSES.
- 00:17:41.140 --> 00:17:42.230
- - CLIFTON: MMH!
- 00:17:42.230 --> 00:17:43.210
- - DARRYL: AND I WAS LIKE, "WHY
- 00:17:43.210 --> 00:17:44.210
- DON'T YOU AND THAT GOD YOU
- 00:17:44.210 --> 00:17:45.280
- SERVE JUST LEAVE ME HERE AND
- 00:17:45.280 --> 00:17:47.070
- LET ME DIE?"
- 00:17:47.070 --> 00:17:47.200
- SHE SAID, "YOU JUST NOT THAT
- 00:17:47.200 --> 00:17:48.110
- LUCKY."
- 00:17:48.110 --> 00:17:48.230
- - CLIFTON: HA!
- 00:17:48.230 --> 00:17:50.240
- [LAUGHTER]
- 00:17:50.240 --> 00:17:52.050
- - DARRYL: SO, SEE, PEOPLE LOOK
- 00:17:52.050 --> 00:17:52.270
- FROM A DISTANCE AND DON'T KNOW
- 00:17:52.270 --> 00:17:53.260
- WHAT YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH WITH
- 00:17:53.260 --> 00:17:54.280
- SOMEONE, BUT GOD SENDS SOMEONE
- 00:17:54.280 --> 00:17:57.120
- TO YOU TO HELP YOU BE RESTORED.
- 00:17:57.120 --> 00:17:59.250
- HE'S ALWAYS GONNA DO THE SAME
- 00:17:59.250 --> 00:18:01.220
- THAT HE'S ALWAYS DONE.
- 00:18:01.220 --> 00:18:03.260
- GOD IS NEVER GONNA CHANGE.
- 00:18:03.260 --> 00:18:06.050
- GOD IS GONNA USE PEOPLE TO HELP
- 00:18:06.050 --> 00:18:07.090
- PEOPLE.
- 00:18:07.090 --> 00:18:09.030
- - CLIFTON: THAT'S RIGHT.
- 00:18:09.030 --> 00:18:09.250
- THAT'S RIGHT.
- 00:18:09.250 --> 00:18:10.110
- - DARRYL: YOU KNOW?
- 00:18:10.110 --> 00:18:11.130
- AND THAT'S ALL HE'S EVER DONE
- 00:18:11.130 --> 00:18:12.040
- AND THAT'S WHAT THE BIBLE BY--
- 00:18:12.040 --> 00:18:13.040
- WHEN YOU GO THROUGH THE BIBLE,
- 00:18:13.040 --> 00:18:14.080
- ALL THE PEOPLE IN THERE -- THEY
- 00:18:14.080 --> 00:18:15.160
- ALL HAD ISSUES.
- 00:18:15.160 --> 00:18:16.140
- BUT HE USED THEM TO HELP
- 00:18:16.140 --> 00:18:18.020
- SOMEBODY ELSE, TO BRING
- 00:18:18.020 --> 00:18:19.080
- SOMEBODY ELSE TO COME TO KNOW
- 00:18:19.080 --> 00:18:21.160
- THE LORD AND HAVE A
- 00:18:21.160 --> 00:18:22.260
- RELATIONSHIP, PERSONAL
- 00:18:22.260 --> 00:18:23.290
- RELATIONSHIP, WITH CHRIST
- 00:18:23.290 --> 00:18:24.180
- HIMSELF.
- 00:18:24.180 --> 00:18:25.000
- - CLIFTON: THAT'S
- 00:18:25.000 --> 00:18:25.230
- WONDERFUL...THAT'S WONDERFUL.
- 00:18:25.230 --> 00:18:26.140
- - DARRYL: YEAH.
- 00:18:26.140 --> 00:18:27.110
- - CLIFTON: HOW DID YOU FIND
- 00:18:27.110 --> 00:18:28.100
- - DARRYL: WELL, THAT'S A
- 00:18:31.250 --> 00:18:32.140
- REALLY GOOD QUESTION, 'CAUSE,
- 00:18:32.140 --> 00:18:33.260
- IT'S NOT EASY BECAUSE, UH, WHEN
- 00:18:33.260 --> 00:18:34.180
- I DECIDED TO SURRENDER, GOD SET
- 00:18:34.180 --> 00:18:36.240
- ME FOR SEVEN YEARS...AND DIDN'T
- 00:18:36.240 --> 00:18:39.210
- SPEAK TO ME.
- 00:18:39.210 --> 00:18:41.050
- - CLIFTON: MMH.
- 00:18:41.050 --> 00:18:42.000
- - DARRYL: BUT HE WANTED ME TO
- 00:18:42.000 --> 00:18:42.210
- GET DISCIPLED.
- 00:18:42.210 --> 00:18:44.020
- YOU KNOW, BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T
- 00:18:44.020 --> 00:18:45.080
- GET DISCIPLED ANYMORE AND THEY
- 00:18:45.080 --> 00:18:46.220
- AND THEY THINK THEY REALLY KNOW
- 00:18:49.100 --> 00:18:50.020
- IT.
- 00:18:50.020 --> 00:18:50.100
- AND, BEFORE YOU KNOW IT, YOU
- 00:18:50.100 --> 00:18:51.060
- KNOW, THE DEVIL'S TEMPTIN' YOU
- 00:18:51.060 --> 00:18:52.100
- AND YOU'RE BACK OUT THERE DOIN'
- 00:18:52.100 --> 00:18:53.180
- THE SAME THING BECAUSE YOU
- 00:18:53.180 --> 00:18:54.120
- HAVEN'T DOWNLOADED THE WORD
- 00:18:54.120 --> 00:18:55.290
- DOWN INSIDE OF YOU.
- 00:18:55.290 --> 00:18:58.050
- AND JESUS TALKS ABOUT THAT.
- 00:18:58.050 --> 00:18:59.230
- IN JOHN 10:10, JESUS SAID, "THE
- 00:18:59.230 --> 00:19:01.260
- THIEF DOES NOT COME EXCEPT TO
- 00:19:01.260 --> 00:19:03.020
- STEAL, KILL, AND DESTROY.
- 00:19:03.020 --> 00:19:04.080
- I HAVE COME THAT THEY MAY HAVE
- 00:19:04.080 --> 00:19:05.090
- LIFE AND HAVE IT MORE
- 00:19:05.090 --> 00:19:06.080
- ABUNDANTLY."
- 00:19:06.080 --> 00:19:06.220
- AND ABUNDANT LIFE IS NOT STUFF;
- 00:19:06.220 --> 00:19:08.190
- IT'S JOY, PEACE, KNOWLEDGE,
- 00:19:08.190 --> 00:19:09.230
- WISDOM, POWER.
- 00:19:09.230 --> 00:19:11.190
- [APPLAUSE]
- 00:19:11.190 --> 00:19:12.070
- THERE ARE SO MANY OTHER THINGS,
- 00:19:12.070 --> 00:19:13.100
- YOU KNOW, THAT YOU GET FROM THE
- 00:19:13.100 --> 00:19:14.230
- WORD OF GOD.
- 00:19:14.230 --> 00:19:15.290
- SO, THROUGH THAT PERIOD OF
- 00:19:15.290 --> 00:19:17.100
- SEVEN YEARS OF SITTING, I JUST
- 00:19:17.100 --> 00:19:20.040
- STUDIED AND LAID WITH GOD.
- 00:19:20.040 --> 00:19:22.190
- I CRIED AND I LAID WITH HIM.
- 00:19:22.190 --> 00:19:24.150
- AND I SAID: "LORD, I JUST WANNA
- 00:19:24.150 --> 00:19:26.000
- KNOW YOU.
- 00:19:26.000 --> 00:19:26.150
- I DON'T WANT ANYTHING ELSE.
- 00:19:26.150 --> 00:19:27.180
- I DON'T WANNA BE RICH NO MORE.
- 00:19:27.180 --> 00:19:28.240
- I DON'T WANNA BE FAMOUS NO
- 00:19:28.240 --> 00:19:29.280
- MORE.
- 00:19:29.280 --> 00:19:30.130
- I ALREADY EXPERIENCED THAT."
- 00:19:30.130 --> 00:19:31.070
- THE DEVIL'S A LIE.
- 00:19:31.070 --> 00:19:33.100
- HE TRIED TO KILL ME TO MAKE ME
- 00:19:33.100 --> 00:19:34.080
- BELIEVE THAT 'CAUSE THAT--
- 00:19:34.080 --> 00:19:35.050
- THAT, I COULD HAVE-- I COULD
- 00:19:35.050 --> 00:19:37.200
- HAVE NEVER HAD THE PROBLEMS I
- 00:19:37.200 --> 00:19:39.010
- HAD AND PROBABLY BEEN ONE OF
- 00:19:39.010 --> 00:19:40.160
- THE GREATEST PLAYERS TO EVER
- 00:19:40.160 --> 00:19:43.100
- PLAY BASEBALL, MADE ANOTHER $50
- 00:19:43.100 --> 00:19:44.080
- MILLION; I WOULD HAVE NEVER MET
- 00:19:44.080 --> 00:19:45.000
- JESUS.
- 00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:45.110
- - CLIFTON: MM-HMM.
- 00:19:45.110 --> 00:19:46.010
- - DARRYL: AND I WOULD HAVE
- 00:19:46.010 --> 00:19:46.270
- BEEN SEPARATED FROM JESUS
- 00:19:46.270 --> 00:19:47.160
- BECAUSE OF THAT LIFESTYLE.
- 00:19:47.160 --> 00:19:48.210
- AND YOU GET CONSUMED WITH IT
- 00:19:48.210 --> 00:19:50.140
- AND YOU THINK IT'S ABOUT YOU.
- 00:19:50.140 --> 00:19:51.230
- AND YOU WILL NEVER PICK UP A
- 00:19:51.230 --> 00:19:53.080
- BIBLE, YOU'LL NEVER GO INTO
- 00:19:53.080 --> 00:19:54.010
- CHURCH 'CAUSE YOU THINK THEY
- 00:19:54.010 --> 00:19:55.090
- WANT SOMETHING FROM YOU.
- 00:19:55.090 --> 00:19:56.100
- AND ALL JESUS WANT IS YOUR
- 00:19:56.100 --> 00:19:57.280
- SOUL; HE DOES NOT NEED ANYTHING
- 00:19:57.280 --> 00:19:59.130
- FROM YOU.
- 00:19:59.130 --> 00:20:00.270
- - CLIFTON: AMEN!
- 00:20:00.270 --> 00:20:01.140
- [APPLAUSE]
- 00:20:03.120 --> 00:20:06.120
- - DARRYL: WE'RE GONNA TALK
- 00:20:06.120 --> 00:20:07.020
- ABOUT HOW YOU GIVE BACK.
- 00:20:07.020 --> 00:20:09.160
- AND WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT A
- 00:20:09.160 --> 00:20:10.280
- FRIEND OF YOURS WHO WALKED A
- 00:20:12.140 --> 00:20:15.140
- SIMILAR PATH IN SOME WAYS.
- 00:20:15.140 --> 00:20:17.250
- IN FACT, LET'S INTRODUCE HIM BY
- 00:20:17.250 --> 00:20:20.010
- VIDEO -- UH, OUR NEXT GUEST,
- 00:20:20.180 --> 00:20:23.180
- JASON ROMANO.
- 00:20:23.250 --> 00:20:26.250
- - FEMALE ANNOUNCER: EMMY
- 00:20:26.250 --> 00:20:27.140
- AWARD-WINNING SPORTS
- 00:20:27.140 --> 00:20:29.050
- ANALYST, JASON ROMANO,
- 00:20:29.050 --> 00:20:30.130
- SPEAKS TO PEOPLE AROUND THE
- 00:20:30.130 --> 00:20:31.030
- COUNTRY ABOUT THE POWER OF
- 00:20:31.030 --> 00:20:32.140
- HIS DREAM OF BECOMING A SPORTS
- 00:20:36.150 --> 00:20:37.060
- BROADCASTER BECAME A REALITY
- 00:20:37.060 --> 00:20:37.260
- WHEN HE BUILT A 17-YEAR CAREER
- 00:20:37.260 --> 00:20:38.290
- BEHIND ALL OF HIS SUCCESS,
- 00:20:41.110 --> 00:20:42.000
- JASON STRUGGLED TO HEAL FROM A
- 00:20:42.000 --> 00:20:43.130
- BROKEN RELATIONSHIP THAT HE HAD
- 00:20:43.130 --> 00:20:45.090
- HAD WITH HIS ALCOHOLIC FATHER.
- 00:20:45.090 --> 00:20:47.090
- JASON WROTE ABOUT FORGIVING HIS
- 00:20:47.090 --> 00:20:48.210
- FATHER IN THE BOOK, "LIVE TO
- 00:20:48.210 --> 00:20:50.220
- FORGIVE," AND IS PASSIONATE
- 00:20:50.220 --> 00:20:53.150
- ABOUT SPREADING THE MESSAGE OF
- 00:20:53.150 --> 00:20:54.060
- FAITH AND FORGIVENESS TO
- 00:20:54.060 --> 00:20:54.270
- OTHERS.
- 00:20:54.270 --> 00:20:55.290
- CURRENTLY, JASON HOSTS THE
- 00:20:55.290 --> 00:20:57.230
- SPORTS SPECTRUM PODCAST, WHERE
- 00:20:57.230 --> 00:20:58.290
- HE INTERVIEWS ATHLETES,
- 00:20:58.290 --> 00:21:00.260
- COACHES, AND ENTERTAINERS ABOUT
- 00:21:00.260 --> 00:21:02.060
- THEIR FAITH.
- 00:21:02.060 --> 00:21:03.020
- JASON TRAVELS THE NATION TO
- 00:21:03.020 --> 00:21:04.270
- SPEAK ABOUT THE GOODNESS OF GOD
- 00:21:04.270 --> 00:21:06.110
- AT YOUTH GROUPS, COLLEGES,
- 00:21:06.110 --> 00:21:07.260
- COMPANIES, AND CHURCHES.
- 00:21:07.260 --> 00:21:09.180
- PLEASE WELCOME JASON ROMANO.
- 00:21:09.180 --> 00:21:12.160
- [APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
- 00:21:18.060 --> 00:21:21.060
- - CLIFTON: THEY'RE GLAD YOU'RE
- 00:21:21.060 --> 00:21:21.280
- HERE, TOO.
- 00:21:21.280 --> 00:21:23.050
- [LOUD APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
- 00:21:23.050 --> 00:21:23.230
- - JASON ROMANO: THANK YOU.
- 00:21:23.230 --> 00:21:24.130
- THANK YOU.
- 00:21:24.130 --> 00:21:26.030
- [LOUD APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
- 00:21:26.030 --> 00:21:28.110
- THANK YOU.
- 00:21:28.110 --> 00:21:30.120
- - CLIFTON: NOW, YOU SPENT
- 00:21:30.120 --> 00:21:32.020
- MANY, MANY YEARS AT ESPN.
- 00:21:32.020 --> 00:21:33.170
- - JASON: YEAH.
- 00:21:33.170 --> 00:21:34.070
- - CLIFTON: HOW DID YOU MEET
- 00:21:34.070 --> 00:21:34.280
- DARRYL STRAWBERRY?
- 00:21:36.020 --> 00:21:39.020
- - JASON: UH, WELL, IT'S FUNNY
- 00:21:39.020 --> 00:21:39.230
- THAT YOU ASK THAT BECAUSE IT
- 00:21:39.230 --> 00:21:41.090
- GOES EVEN FURTHER BACK.
- 00:21:41.090 --> 00:21:41.270
- BEFORE I MET THIS MAN, I WAS
- 00:21:41.270 --> 00:21:42.170
- OUT THERE CHEERIN' HIM ON.
- 00:21:42.170 --> 00:21:45.010
- THIS GUY WAS ON THE POSTER ON
- 00:21:45.010 --> 00:21:45.280
- MY WALL, AS A KID.
- 00:21:45.280 --> 00:21:48.130
- AND I KEPT ALL HIS STATS.
- 00:21:48.130 --> 00:21:49.160
- [CLIFTON LAUGHS]
- 00:21:49.160 --> 00:21:50.110
- AND I WAS A LITTLE OBSESSED
- 00:21:50.110 --> 00:21:51.010
- OVER DARRYL STRAWBERRY WHEN I
- 00:21:51.010 --> 00:21:51.240
- WAS 10 YEARS OLD.
- 00:21:51.240 --> 00:21:52.260
- [LAUGHTER]
- 00:21:52.260 --> 00:21:54.140
- UH, BUT FAST FORWARD -- IT WAS
- 00:21:54.140 --> 00:21:56.140
- 10 YEARS AGO AND MY JOB AT ESPN
- 00:21:56.140 --> 00:21:58.150
- WAS AS A TALENT BOOKER.
- 00:21:58.150 --> 00:22:00.240
- AND I WAS SECURING GUESTS AND
- 00:22:00.240 --> 00:22:01.240
- BRINGING THEM TO ESPN TO DO A
- 00:22:01.240 --> 00:22:02.250
- BUNCH OF INTERVIEWS.
- 00:22:02.250 --> 00:22:04.080
- - CLIFTON: MM-HMM.
- 00:22:04.080 --> 00:22:05.040
- - JASON: AND, LO AND BEHOLD,
- 00:22:05.040 --> 00:22:05.250
- DARRYL HAD A BOOK OUT CALLED
- 00:22:05.250 --> 00:22:06.220
- "STRAW," I BELIEVE...
- 00:22:06.220 --> 00:22:07.290
- - DARRYL: MM-HMM.
- 00:22:07.290 --> 00:22:09.210
- - JASON: ...AND, UM, WAS
- 00:22:09.210 --> 00:22:10.100
- COMING TO ESPN TO PROMOTE IT.
- 00:22:10.100 --> 00:22:11.020
- SO, I JUMPED ON THAT ASSIGNMENT
- 00:22:11.020 --> 00:22:12.280
- AND SET UP A DAY FOR HIM TO
- 00:22:12.280 --> 00:22:14.140
- WALK THROUGH ESPN AND ALL THE
- 00:22:14.140 --> 00:22:16.110
- DIFFERENT SHOWS.
- 00:22:16.110 --> 00:22:17.100
- AND, SO, I SPENT THE DAY WITH
- 00:22:17.100 --> 00:22:18.230
- HIM.
- 00:22:18.230 --> 00:22:20.150
- AND I WAS VERY, VERY NERVOUS.
- 00:22:20.150 --> 00:22:21.210
- IT WAS PROBABLY THE MOST
- 00:22:21.210 --> 00:22:22.280
- NERVOUS I'VE BEEN BECAUSE I'M
- 00:22:22.280 --> 00:22:24.020
- MEETING MY CHILDHOOD BASEBALL
- 00:22:24.020 --> 00:22:24.260
- HERO, HERE.
- 00:22:24.260 --> 00:22:25.280
- UH, BUT DARRYL PUT ME AT EASE
- 00:22:25.280 --> 00:22:28.120
- RIGHT AWAY AND IT WAS A VERY
- 00:22:28.120 --> 00:22:29.020
- SPECIAL DAY.
- 00:22:29.020 --> 00:22:30.170
- IT REALLY CHANGED THE
- 00:22:30.170 --> 00:22:31.260
- TRAJECTORY OF MY PERSONAL LIFE
- 00:22:31.260 --> 00:22:33.110
- IN MANY WAYS, JUST THAT DAY
- 00:22:33.110 --> 00:22:34.010
- SPENDING WITH DARRYL.
- 00:22:34.010 --> 00:22:36.130
- - CLIFTON: AW...THAT'S
- 00:22:36.130 --> 00:22:37.010
- WONDERFUL.
- 00:22:37.010 --> 00:22:37.120
- THAT'S WONDERFUL.
- 00:22:37.120 --> 00:22:37.270
- - JASON: YEAH.
- 00:22:37.270 --> 00:22:38.160
- - CLIFTON: WELL, YOU'RE
- 00:22:38.160 --> 00:22:39.040
- WITH A GIANT.
- 00:22:39.040 --> 00:22:40.090
- I MEAN, HE'S NOT JUST A GIANT
- 00:22:40.090 --> 00:22:41.000
- IN SPORTS.
- 00:22:41.000 --> 00:22:41.110
- HE'S A BIG GUY, TOO.
- 00:22:41.110 --> 00:22:42.210
- - JASON: HE'S A BIG GUY.
- 00:22:42.210 --> 00:22:43.260
- I'M 6'1" AND HE MAKES ME LOOK
- 00:22:43.260 --> 00:22:44.290
- SMALL, SO, I MEAN, YOU KNOW...
- 00:22:44.290 --> 00:22:45.200
- [LAUGHTER]
- 00:22:45.200 --> 00:22:46.010
- HE'S A BIG GUY.
- 00:22:46.010 --> 00:22:47.090
- - CLIFTON: SO, UH, WHAT DID--
- 00:22:47.090 --> 00:22:49.230
- WHAT DID THAT CAREER MEAN TO
- 00:22:49.230 --> 00:22:52.100
- YOU AFTER YOU TOUCHED LIVES
- 00:22:52.100 --> 00:22:54.000
- LIKE-- LIKE HIS?
- 00:22:54.250 --> 00:22:57.250
- - JASON: WATCHING DARRYL AS
- 00:22:57.250 --> 00:22:58.150
- A KID WAS WHERE MY SPORTS LOVE
- 00:22:58.150 --> 00:23:00.050
- I KNEW I WASN'T GOING TO BE A
- 00:23:03.190 --> 00:23:05.060
- PROFESSIONAL -- AT LEAST,
- 00:23:05.060 --> 00:23:06.230
- WHEN I STARTED MY
- 00:23:06.230 --> 00:23:07.290
- ATHLETIC CAREER,
- 00:23:07.290 --> 00:23:08.200
- I REALIZED THAT WASN'T GONNA
- 00:23:08.200 --> 00:23:09.110
- HAPPEN.
- 00:23:09.110 --> 00:23:10.260
- SO THE NEXT BEST THING WAS
- 00:23:10.260 --> 00:23:11.150
- TO GO AND BROADCAST,
- 00:23:11.150 --> 00:23:12.240
- AND TALK ABOUT SPORTS, AND
- 00:23:12.240 --> 00:23:13.290
- AND THAT'S WHERE THAT LOVE FOR
- 00:23:15.200 --> 00:23:16.140
- SPORTS CAME FROM.
- 00:23:16.140 --> 00:23:18.010
- AND TO BEING ABLE TO GET A JOB
- 00:23:18.010 --> 00:23:18.220
- AT ESPN WAS
- 00:23:18.220 --> 00:23:19.060
- EXACTLY WHAT I TELL PEOPLE --
- 00:23:19.060 --> 00:23:20.250
- IT WAS A DREAM JOB.
- 00:23:20.250 --> 00:23:22.020
- AND TO BE ABLE TO WORK THERE
- 00:23:22.020 --> 00:23:23.150
- FOR A LONG TIME, AND BE ABLE TO
- 00:23:23.150 --> 00:23:25.000
- TALK SPORTS AND PRODUCE SPORTS,
- 00:23:25.000 --> 00:23:26.070
- AND GET TO MEET PEOPLE LIKE
- 00:23:26.070 --> 00:23:28.060
- HIM, AND DO THAT ON A DAILY
- 00:23:28.060 --> 00:23:29.140
- BASIS, YOU'RE A KID IN A CANDY
- 00:23:29.140 --> 00:23:30.060
- STORE.
- 00:23:30.060 --> 00:23:31.200
- IT'S A WONDERFUL THING.
- 00:23:31.200 --> 00:23:32.080
- I REALLY ENJOYED IT.
- 00:23:32.080 --> 00:23:33.210
- YEAH.
- 00:23:33.210 --> 00:23:34.060
- - CLIFTON: OH, THAT'S GREAT.
- 00:23:34.060 --> 00:23:35.140
- BUT THAT-- THAT WASN'T THE
- 00:23:35.140 --> 00:23:37.180
- WHOLE CIRCLE OF YOUR LIFE.
- 00:23:37.180 --> 00:23:38.090
- DURING THE ARC OF YOUR LIFE --
- 00:23:38.090 --> 00:23:40.000
- TO BRING IT BACK TO OUR
- 00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:42.000
- THEME -- YOU HAD TO DEAL WITH
- 00:23:42.000 --> 00:23:43.240
- SOME DYSFUNCTION, AS DARRYL
- 00:23:43.240 --> 00:23:46.130
- CALLED IT, AT HOME.
- 00:23:46.130 --> 00:23:48.160
- - JASON: YEAH.
- 00:23:48.160 --> 00:23:50.010
- - CLIFTON: UH, TELL US ABOUT
- 00:23:50.010 --> 00:23:50.220
- THAT RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR
- 00:23:50.220 --> 00:23:51.120
- FATHER.
- 00:23:51.120 --> 00:23:53.020
- - JASON: YEAH -- SO, I GREW
- 00:23:53.020 --> 00:23:55.250
- UP, UH PARENTS, UPSTATE NEW
- 00:23:55.250 --> 00:23:56.150
- YORK, ALBANY AREA.
- 00:23:56.150 --> 00:23:58.190
- UH, HUGE SPORTS FAN, LIKE I
- 00:23:58.190 --> 00:23:59.090
- SAID.
- 00:23:59.090 --> 00:23:59.190
- PARENTS DIVORCED WHEN I WAS 6.
- 00:23:59.190 --> 00:24:00.180
- UM, SO, IT WAS PART OF A BROKEN
- 00:24:01.120 --> 00:24:04.120
- HOME FROM AN EARLY AGE.
- 00:24:04.120 --> 00:24:06.130
- AND MY DAD WAS, UH, AN
- 00:24:06.140 --> 00:24:09.140
- ALCOHOLIC, EARLY IN OUR LIVES,
- 00:24:09.140 --> 00:24:11.290
- AS KIDS.
- 00:24:11.290 --> 00:24:14.030
- YOU KNOW, WITH MY DAD, IT WAS A
- 00:24:14.030 --> 00:24:16.040
- CONFUSING RELATIONSHIP, AS I
- 00:24:16.040 --> 00:24:17.280
- LIKE TO TALK ABOUT.
- 00:24:17.280 --> 00:24:19.050
- - CLIFTON: MMH.
- 00:24:19.050 --> 00:24:20.050
- - JASON: BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, HE
- 00:24:20.050 --> 00:24:21.120
- WOULD TAKE US TO THE BAR
- 00:24:21.120 --> 00:24:22.200
- AND...HE'D GIVE US A QUARTER,
- 00:24:22.200 --> 00:24:24.120
- AND BUY US A SODA, AND GO PLAY
- 00:24:24.120 --> 00:24:26.150
- PINBALL.
- 00:24:26.150 --> 00:24:27.220
- THAT'S COOL FOR A 6-YEAR-OLD OR
- 00:24:27.220 --> 00:24:29.240
- A 7-YEAR-OLD KID TO DO THAT.
- 00:24:29.240 --> 00:24:31.160
- YOU'RE LIKE: "THANKS, DAD!
- 00:24:31.160 --> 00:24:32.080
- LET'S GO PLAY SOME PINBALL."
- 00:24:32.080 --> 00:24:34.200
- BUT YOU REALIZE, WHILE WE WERE
- 00:24:34.200 --> 00:24:36.020
- DOING THAT, HE'S UP AT THE BAR
- 00:24:36.020 --> 00:24:36.270
- GETTING WASTED.
- 00:24:36.270 --> 00:24:38.070
- - CLIFTON: OH, WOW.
- 00:24:38.070 --> 00:24:39.030
- - JASON: AND, AT 6, 7, 8 YEARS
- 00:24:39.030 --> 00:24:40.150
- OLD, YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW
- 00:24:40.150 --> 00:24:42.040
- WHAT'S GOING ON.
- 00:24:42.040 --> 00:24:43.120
- BUT AS YOU START TO GET A
- 00:24:43.120 --> 00:24:44.250
- LITTLE BIT OLDER, YOU REALIZE:
- 00:24:44.250 --> 00:24:45.270
- THIS IS NOT NORMAL AND THERE'S
- 00:24:45.270 --> 00:24:47.250
- SOME THINGS THAT ARE REALLY
- 00:24:47.250 --> 00:24:48.210
- SERIOUSLY WRONG HERE.
- 00:24:48.210 --> 00:24:50.060
- AND IT JUST PERIODICALLY GOT
- 00:24:50.060 --> 00:24:51.050
- WORSE, AS I GOT OLDER.
- 00:24:51.050 --> 00:24:52.290
- - CLIFTON: MMH...WHAT WAS YOUR
- 00:24:52.290 --> 00:24:54.190
- CONNECTION WITH YOUR FATHER AND
- 00:24:54.190 --> 00:24:55.240
- SPORTS?
- 00:24:55.240 --> 00:24:56.130
- - JASON: I MEAN, THAT'S
- 00:24:56.130 --> 00:24:57.200
- REALLY-- MY FATHER AND HIS
- 00:24:57.200 --> 00:24:58.280
- FATHER -- MY GRANDFATHER --
- 00:24:58.280 --> 00:25:00.050
- GEORGE ROMANO, WERE THE TWO
- 00:25:00.050 --> 00:25:02.030
- BIGGEST SPORTS FANS I KNEW.
- 00:25:02.030 --> 00:25:03.280
- AND I LOVED, UH, WATCHING
- 00:25:03.280 --> 00:25:05.020
- GAMES.
- 00:25:05.020 --> 00:25:06.180
- AND I HAVE MEMORIES OF WATCHING
- 00:25:06.180 --> 00:25:07.270
- GAMES WITH THEM AS A KID --
- 00:25:07.270 --> 00:25:08.220
- GOOD MEMORIES...
- 00:25:08.220 --> 00:25:09.060
- - CLIFTON: YEAH.
- 00:25:09.060 --> 00:25:09.290
- - JASON: ...UM, UNTIL I GOT
- 00:25:09.290 --> 00:25:11.180
- OLDER AND REALIZED THAT THOSE
- 00:25:11.180 --> 00:25:13.090
- GOOD MEMORIES-- I WANTED TO
- 00:25:13.090 --> 00:25:15.040
- WATCH SPORTS WITH MY DAD, NOT
- 00:25:15.040 --> 00:25:16.000
- MY DRUNK DAD.
- 00:25:16.000 --> 00:25:17.010
- AND THAT WAS WHERE IT WAS-- IT
- 00:25:17.010 --> 00:25:19.040
- BECAME REALLY DIFFICULT.
- 00:25:19.040 --> 00:25:20.160
- BUT THAT LOVE OF SPORTS STEMMED
- 00:25:20.160 --> 00:25:22.160
- FROM HIM.
- 00:25:22.160 --> 00:25:23.120
- AND, HONESTLY, TODAY, STILL, AS
- 00:25:23.120 --> 00:25:24.040
- THE RELATIONSHIP IS IN REPAIR
- 00:25:24.040 --> 00:25:26.250
- MODE -- AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT
- 00:25:26.250 --> 00:25:27.270
- THAT -- HE AND I STILL HAVE
- 00:25:27.270 --> 00:25:30.110
- CONVERSATIONS ON THE PHONE AND
- 00:25:30.110 --> 00:25:31.290
- VERY RARELY DO WE GO BEYOND
- 00:25:31.290 --> 00:25:33.110
- SPORTS.
- 00:25:33.110 --> 00:25:34.000
- THAT'S WHAT IT WAS FOR ME.
- 00:25:34.000 --> 00:25:35.250
- - CLIFTON: HOW DID YOUR
- 00:25:35.250 --> 00:25:36.180
- FATHER'S ADDICTION IMPACT YOU--
- 00:25:36.180 --> 00:25:38.010
- YOUR LIFE AND YOUR FAMILY?
- 00:25:38.010 --> 00:25:40.200
- - JASON: IT IMPACTED IT QUITE
- 00:25:41.020 --> 00:25:44.020
- A BIT, IN A GOOD WAY, WHICH IS
- 00:25:44.020 --> 00:25:44.230
- WEIRD TO SAY, BUT I-- YOU KNOW,
- 00:25:44.230 --> 00:25:46.130
- I CHOSE NOT TO DRINK ALCOHOL...
- 00:25:46.220 --> 00:25:49.220
- FROM A VERY YOUNG AGE BECAUSE I
- 00:25:49.220 --> 00:25:50.180
- DIDN'T WANNA BECOME MY DAD.
- 00:25:50.180 --> 00:25:51.180
- I WAS SCARED.
- 00:25:51.180 --> 00:25:52.200
- - CLIFTON: MMH...
- 00:25:52.200 --> 00:25:53.280
- - JASON: I WAS REALLY SCARED
- 00:25:53.280 --> 00:25:54.190
- TO BECOME WHAT HE HAD BECOME
- 00:25:54.190 --> 00:25:56.100
- BECAUSE OF ALCOHOL, SO I CHOSE
- 00:25:56.100 --> 00:25:57.250
- NOT TO DRINK.
- 00:25:57.250 --> 00:25:59.280
- BUT, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T HAVE A
- 00:25:59.280 --> 00:26:00.290
- REAL REL-- LIKE A FAITH
- 00:26:00.290 --> 00:26:02.100
- RELATIONSHIP, OR A RELATIONSHIP
- 00:26:02.100 --> 00:26:03.270
- WITH THE LORD AT ALL, UNTIL
- 00:26:03.270 --> 00:26:04.290
- LATER.
- 00:26:04.290 --> 00:26:05.150
- SO, EVEN AT A YOUNG AGE, BEFORE
- 00:26:05.150 --> 00:26:07.030
- I HAD A REAL SENSE OF WHO GOD
- 00:26:07.050 --> 00:26:10.050
- WAS, I STILL FELT LIKE I CANNOT
- 00:26:10.050 --> 00:26:12.110
- DRINK OR ELSE THIS IS GONNA
- 00:26:12.110 --> 00:26:15.080
- TURN OUT REALLY BAD.
- 00:26:16.220 --> 00:26:19.220
- BUT AS I GOT OLDER-- AND THE
- 00:26:19.220 --> 00:26:20.230
- REAL TOUGH PART OF THE
- 00:26:20.230 --> 00:26:21.150
- RELATIONSHIP WAS, AS I TALK
- 00:26:21.150 --> 00:26:23.120
- ABOUT IN MY BOOK, THE PILLAR
- 00:26:23.120 --> 00:26:24.170
- MOMENTS -- YOU KNOW, HIGH
- 00:26:24.170 --> 00:26:26.010
- SCHOOL GRADUATION, COLLEGE
- 00:26:26.010 --> 00:26:27.170
- GRADUATION, EVEN MARRYING MY
- 00:26:27.170 --> 00:26:28.130
- WIFE, DAWN.
- 00:26:28.130 --> 00:26:30.170
- - CLIFTON: WHAT HAPPENED IN
- 00:26:30.170 --> 00:26:31.080
- THOSE MOMENTS?
- 00:26:31.080 --> 00:26:31.270
- - JASON: MY DAD WASN'T THERE.
- 00:26:31.270 --> 00:26:32.190
- THAT WAS THE THING.
- 00:26:32.190 --> 00:26:33.140
- HE WAS IN A REHAB CENTER OR
- 00:26:33.140 --> 00:26:35.160
- JUST HAVING A REAL BAD SPELL
- 00:26:35.160 --> 00:26:36.240
- WITH ALCOHOL.
- 00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:38.020
- AND HE JUST WASN'T AROUND.
- 00:26:38.020 --> 00:26:39.170
- I SAY HE WAS AROUND, I SHOULD
- 00:26:39.170 --> 00:26:41.060
- SAY, BUT HE WASN'T PRESENT...IN
- 00:26:41.060 --> 00:26:42.180
- MY LIFE.
- 00:26:42.180 --> 00:26:43.180
- AND THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE
- 00:26:43.180 --> 00:26:44.090
- WHEN YOU HAVE A DAD WHO'S
- 00:26:44.090 --> 00:26:45.250
- AROUND BUT HE'S NOT PRESENT.
- 00:26:45.250 --> 00:26:47.140
- AND THAT ALCOHOL WAS REALLY AT
- 00:26:47.140 --> 00:26:48.100
- THE ROOT OF IT ALL.
- 00:26:48.100 --> 00:26:49.110
- - CLIFTON: MMH.
- 00:26:49.110 --> 00:26:50.080
- SO, MY FATHER WAS AN ALCOHOLIC,
- 00:26:50.100 --> 00:26:53.100
- AS WELL.
- 00:26:53.100 --> 00:26:55.010
- HE WAS A CLOSET ALCOHOLIC.
- 00:26:55.010 --> 00:26:57.250
- - JASON: MMH.
- 00:26:57.250 --> 00:26:58.250
- - CLIFTON: LITERALLY, I...I
- 00:26:58.250 --> 00:26:59.160
- REMEMBER HE HAD A LOCKED CLOSET
- 00:26:59.160 --> 00:27:01.050
- IN HIS OFFICE -- AND HE WAS A
- 00:27:01.050 --> 00:27:02.140
- PASTOR.
- 00:27:02.140 --> 00:27:03.170
- - CLIFTON: AND, UH WHEN I WAS
- 00:27:08.260 --> 00:27:09.180
- 18, FINALLY, SOMETHING SAID,
- 00:27:09.180 --> 00:27:10.080
- "OPEN THAT DOOR."
- 00:27:10.080 --> 00:27:10.270
- AND I FIGURED OUT HOW TO OPEN
- 00:27:10.270 --> 00:27:11.180
- THE DOOR.
- 00:27:11.180 --> 00:27:11.290
- 'CAUSE 18-YEAR-OLDS CAN GET
- 00:27:11.290 --> 00:27:13.200
- - JASON: THAT'S TRUE.
- 00:27:16.100 --> 00:27:17.050
- - CLIFTON: AND WHEN I OPENED
- 00:27:17.050 --> 00:27:17.260
- THE DOOR, BOTTLES JUST
- 00:27:17.260 --> 00:27:18.160
- CASCADED...
- 00:27:18.160 --> 00:27:20.270
- - JASON: JUST FELL OUT.
- 00:27:20.270 --> 00:27:21.220
- - CLIFTON: ...OUT OF THE
- 00:27:21.220 --> 00:27:22.110
- CLOSET.
- 00:27:22.110 --> 00:27:25.030
- AND THAT'S WHAT HE WOULD SIT
- 00:27:25.030 --> 00:27:26.250
- UP IN HIS OFFICE AT NIGHT--
- 00:27:26.250 --> 00:27:27.150
- INSTEAD OF STUDYING FOR A
- 00:27:27.150 --> 00:27:28.040
- SERMON, HE WAS GETTIN' WASTED.
- 00:27:28.040 --> 00:27:30.220
- - DARRYL AND JASON: MMH.
- 00:27:30.220 --> 00:27:32.260
- - CLIFTON: AND, UH...AND SO, I
- 00:27:32.260 --> 00:27:33.290
- COULDN'T REALLY SPEAK TO HIM
- 00:27:33.290 --> 00:27:34.200
- ABOUT IT...
- 00:27:34.200 --> 00:27:35.120
- - JASON: YEAH.
- 00:27:35.120 --> 00:27:35.260
- - CLIFTON: ...UNTIL YEARS
- 00:27:35.260 --> 00:27:36.290
- LATER, WHEN WE HELPED HIM GET A
- 00:27:36.290 --> 00:27:38.140
- NEW CADILLAC, AND, A WEEK AND A
- 00:27:38.140 --> 00:27:41.020
- HALF LATER, HE TOTALED IT.
- 00:27:41.020 --> 00:27:42.150
- - JASON: YEAH.
- 00:27:42.150 --> 00:27:43.140
- - DARRYL: MMH.
- 00:27:43.140 --> 00:27:44.130
- - CLIFTON: DUI.
- 00:27:44.130 --> 00:27:45.090
- - JASON: YEAH.
- 00:27:45.090 --> 00:27:46.160
- - CLIFTON: INSURANCE GOT HIM
- 00:27:46.160 --> 00:27:47.070
- ANOTHER ONE.
- 00:27:47.070 --> 00:27:48.160
- AND -- DON'T YOU KNOW -- A
- 00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:49.220
- MONTH LATER, HE TOTALED THAT
- 00:27:49.220 --> 00:27:51.130
- ONE, TOO, WITH A DUI?
- 00:27:51.130 --> 00:27:53.020
- - DARRYL: MMH.
- 00:27:53.020 --> 00:27:54.090
- - CLIFTON: AND SO, THEN, THE
- 00:27:54.090 --> 00:27:55.000
- WORLD BEGAN TO KNOW THAT HE HAD
- 00:27:55.000 --> 00:27:56.120
- A PROBLEM -- 'CAUSE HE HAD TO
- 00:27:56.120 --> 00:27:57.140
- GO TO JAIL.
- 00:27:57.140 --> 00:27:57.290
- - JASON: YEAH.
- 00:27:57.290 --> 00:27:59.150
- - CLIFTON: AND, UH...AND SO, I
- 00:27:59.150 --> 00:28:00.200
- CAN RELATE TO YOUR STORY.
- 00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:02.040
- - JASON: SURE.
- 00:28:02.040 --> 00:28:03.100
- - CLIFTON: AND SO, WHAT I'M
- 00:28:03.100 --> 00:28:04.200
- ASKING IS -- HOW DID IT MAKE
- 00:28:04.200 --> 00:28:06.190
- YOU FEEL WHEN HE MISSED YOUR
- 00:28:06.190 --> 00:28:07.140
- WEDDING AND YOUR CHILD'S BIRTH
- 00:28:07.140 --> 00:28:08.250
- AND ALL OF THAT?
- 00:28:08.250 --> 00:28:10.020
- HOW DID THAT-- WHAT HAPPENED TO
- 00:28:10.020 --> 00:28:11.050
- YOU?
- 00:28:11.050 --> 00:28:13.030
- - JASON: YOU KNOW, IN THOSE
- 00:28:13.030 --> 00:28:15.160
- YOUNGER AGES, EVEN, LIKE, HIGH
- 00:28:15.160 --> 00:28:16.220
- SCHOOL AND COLLEGE, I THINK I
- 00:28:16.220 --> 00:28:17.290
- BY THE TIME I WAS IN MY 20S AND
- 00:28:20.210 --> 00:28:21.130
- HEADING TOWARDS 30, AND
- 00:28:21.130 --> 00:28:23.270
- BECOMING A HUSBAND AND A DAD, I
- 00:28:23.270 --> 00:28:25.170
- HAD KIND OF...JUST...PUT A
- 00:28:25.170 --> 00:28:27.280
- FENCE UP, A WALL UP, IN MY
- 00:28:27.280 --> 00:28:29.270
- LIFE, WITH HIM.
- 00:28:29.270 --> 00:28:32.110
- AND IT WASN'T UNEXPECTED, AS
- 00:28:32.110 --> 00:28:33.010
- SAD AS THAT SOUNDS.
- 00:28:33.010 --> 00:28:34.000
- - CLIFTON: YEAH.
- 00:28:34.000 --> 00:28:34.150
- - JASON: THERE WAS DEFINITELY
- 00:28:34.150 --> 00:28:35.130
- A VOID AND THERE WAS DEFINITELY
- 00:28:35.130 --> 00:28:36.060
- BUT I HAD KINDA MOVED ON AT
- 00:28:39.190 --> 00:28:40.090
- THAT POINT IN MY LIFE.
- 00:28:40.090 --> 00:28:40.260
- I SAID: YOU KNOW WHAT?
- 00:28:40.260 --> 00:28:41.130
- I'M GOING TO MOVE ON AND DO THE
- 00:28:41.130 --> 00:28:42.050
- BEST THAT I CAN IN MY LIFE.
- 00:28:42.050 --> 00:28:44.140
- I HAVE A LIFE TO LIVE.
- 00:28:44.140 --> 00:28:45.020
- BUT A LOT WENT INTO HIM NOT
- 00:28:45.020 --> 00:28:47.100
- BEING INVITED TO
- 00:28:47.100 --> 00:28:49.080
- OUR WEDDING,
- 00:28:49.080 --> 00:28:49.230
- AND, CERTAINLY, EVEN,
- 00:28:49.230 --> 00:28:51.070
- NOT COMING TO THE BIRTH
- 00:28:51.070 --> 00:28:52.270
- OF OUR DAUGHTER BEING BORN.
- 00:28:52.270 --> 00:28:53.170
- YOU KNOW, HE WAS IN A REHAB.
- 00:28:53.170 --> 00:28:54.110
- AND IT WAS SAD.
- 00:28:54.110 --> 00:28:55.150
- I REALLY WANTED HIM-- EVERYBODY
- 00:28:55.150 --> 00:28:56.240
- WANTS THEIR DAD TO BE A PART OF
- 00:28:56.240 --> 00:28:58.000
- THEIR LIVES--
- 00:28:58.000 --> 00:28:59.010
- - DARRYL: RIGHT.
- 00:28:59.010 --> 00:28:59.210
- - JASON: --IN ALL OF THE BIG
- 00:28:59.210 --> 00:29:00.230
- MOMENTS THAT THEY GO THROUGH.
- 00:29:00.230 --> 00:29:01.260
- AND SO, LOOKING BACK, YOU
- 00:29:01.260 --> 00:29:03.290
- REALIZE IT WAS A BIG VOID.
- 00:29:03.290 --> 00:29:05.130
- UM, BUT WHEN I'M GOING THROUGH
- 00:29:05.130 --> 00:29:06.230
- IT, YOU JUST KIND OF-- YOU GOT
- 00:29:06.230 --> 00:29:07.240
- LIFE TO LIVE.
- 00:29:07.240 --> 00:29:08.290
- YOU KNOW?
- 00:29:08.290 --> 00:29:09.130
- AND YOU'RE JUST KIND OF MOVING
- 00:29:09.130 --> 00:29:10.260
- THROUGH IT AS BEST AS YOU CAN.
- 00:29:10.260 --> 00:29:11.240
- - CLIFTON: AND SO, GETTING
- 00:29:11.240 --> 00:29:13.070
- INVOLVED IN YOUR OWN LIFE WAS
- 00:29:13.070 --> 00:29:15.040
- YOUR MEANS OF COPING?
- 00:29:15.040 --> 00:29:17.010
- - JASON: YEAH.
- 00:29:17.010 --> 00:29:18.080
- THAT WAS A LOT OF IT.
- 00:29:18.080 --> 00:29:20.230
- UM, YOU KNOW, I-I-- MY MOM --
- 00:29:20.230 --> 00:29:22.080
- KIND OF LIKE WHAT YOU SAID
- 00:29:22.080 --> 00:29:23.070
- ABOUT YOUR MOM -- SHE SAVED ME
- 00:29:23.070 --> 00:29:24.070
- AND SHE SAVED MY TWO BROTHERS,
- 00:29:24.070 --> 00:29:25.100
- AND KEPT US ON THE STRAIGHT AND
- 00:29:25.100 --> 00:29:26.160
- NARROW, AND ALLOWED US TO DREAM
- 00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:28.010
- AND ALLOWED US TO PURSUE THOSE
- 00:29:28.010 --> 00:29:29.080
- DREAMS.
- 00:29:29.080 --> 00:29:31.260
- AND THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THAT
- 00:29:31.260 --> 00:29:32.240
- OPPORTUNITY, I WAS ABLE TO GO
- 00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:34.030
- TO COLLEGE AND GO FOR THE-- THE
- 00:29:34.030 --> 00:29:35.150
- CAREER THAT I WANTED TO GO
- 00:29:35.150 --> 00:29:37.110
- AFTER.
- 00:29:37.110 --> 00:29:37.240
- AND DOING ALL OF THAT IS WHAT
- 00:29:37.240 --> 00:29:39.140
- HELPED ME KINDA...JUST IGNORE,
- 00:29:39.140 --> 00:29:42.000
- I GUESS, IN A LOT OF WAYS, OR
- 00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:43.080
- DEAL WITH WHAT WAS HAPPENING
- 00:29:43.080 --> 00:29:44.190
- WITH MY DAD.
- 00:29:44.190 --> 00:29:45.040
- I WAS GOING AFTER MY CAREER AND
- 00:29:45.040 --> 00:29:46.190
- TRYING TO PURSUE THE SUCCESS
- 00:29:46.190 --> 00:29:48.040
- AND THE DRIVE TO BECOME
- 00:29:48.040 --> 00:29:50.100
- SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS
- 00:29:50.100 --> 00:29:51.170
- BIGGER THAN MYSELF AND
- 00:29:51.170 --> 00:29:52.210
- SOMETHING THAT WOULD MAKE HIM
- 00:29:52.210 --> 00:29:54.020
- PROUD IN MANY WAYS.
- 00:29:54.020 --> 00:29:55.050
- - CLIFTON: DID IT MAKE YOU
- 00:29:55.050 --> 00:29:56.190
- ALSO WANNA FIND A WAY TO FIGHT
- 00:29:56.190 --> 00:29:57.280
- ADDICTIONS?
- 00:29:57.280 --> 00:29:58.200
- - JASON: YEAH!
- 00:29:58.200 --> 00:30:00.010
- IT REALLY DID.
- 00:30:00.010 --> 00:30:01.170
- I MEAN, I-- IT'S FUNNY, BECAUSE
- 00:30:01.170 --> 00:30:02.170
- I REMEMBER BEING IN COLLEGE AND
- 00:30:02.170 --> 00:30:03.230
- SEEING, UH, YOU KNOW, MY
- 00:30:03.230 --> 00:30:05.140
- FRIENDS DRINKING AND HAVING
- 00:30:05.140 --> 00:30:06.210
- PARTIES.
- 00:30:06.210 --> 00:30:07.290
- AND THAT'S KINDA JUST WHAT
- 00:30:07.290 --> 00:30:08.280
- COLLEGE KIDS DO, RIGHT?
- 00:30:08.280 --> 00:30:09.160
- - CLIFTON: MM-HMM.
- 00:30:09.160 --> 00:30:10.080
- - JASON: AND I WAS THE ONLY
- 00:30:10.080 --> 00:30:10.290
- ONE NOT HAVING ANY ALCOHOL.
- 00:30:10.290 --> 00:30:12.070
- UM...AND, YOU DON'T REALIZE IT,
- 00:30:12.070 --> 00:30:14.120
- WHEN YOU'RE 18, YOU'RE THE GUY
- 00:30:14.120 --> 00:30:15.150
- BEING MADE FUN OF.
- 00:30:15.150 --> 00:30:16.270
- BUT BY THE TIME YOU GET INTO
- 00:30:16.270 --> 00:30:18.020
- YOUR 20S AND 30S, YOU REALIZE
- 00:30:18.020 --> 00:30:19.120
- THERE'S AN EXAMPLE THERE THAT
- 00:30:19.120 --> 00:30:21.140
- YOU CAN-- YOU CAN SET.
- 00:30:21.140 --> 00:30:22.130
- AND, FOR MANY PEOPLE, WHEN I
- 00:30:22.130 --> 00:30:24.030
- WOULD TELL THEM I DON'T DRINK,
- 00:30:24.030 --> 00:30:25.140
- IT USUALLY ENTERED INTO A
- 00:30:25.140 --> 00:30:26.170
- QUESTION OF WHY.
- 00:30:26.170 --> 00:30:28.010
- AND THAT ALLOWED ME TO TALK
- 00:30:28.010 --> 00:30:29.050
- ABOUT ADDICTION.
- 00:30:29.050 --> 00:30:30.040
- I DIDN'T TALK A LOT ABOUT MY
- 00:30:30.040 --> 00:30:30.240
- DAD...
- 00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:31.120
- - CLIFTON: MM-HMM.
- 00:30:31.120 --> 00:30:32.260
- - JASON: ...BUT IT ALLOWED ME
- 00:30:32.260 --> 00:30:33.240
- TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION TO
- 00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:34.220
- SAY, "YEAH, THE DRINKING IS ALL
- 00:30:34.220 --> 00:30:36.190
- FUN AND GAMES, BUT, THERE'S
- 00:30:36.190 --> 00:30:37.150
- SOME SERIOUS, YOU KNOW,
- 00:30:37.150 --> 00:30:38.220
- REPERCUSSIONS FOR THIS IF YOU
- 00:30:38.220 --> 00:30:39.240
- GO TOO FAR."
- 00:30:39.240 --> 00:30:40.110
- - DARRYL: MM-HMM.
- 00:30:40.110 --> 00:30:41.100
- - CLIFTON: YEAH, YEAH.
- 00:30:41.100 --> 00:30:41.280
- - JASON: SO...
- 00:30:41.280 --> 00:30:42.290
- - CLIFTON: WELL, SPEAKING IN
- 00:30:42.290 --> 00:30:43.200
- THE TERMS OF DOING SOMETHING TO
- 00:30:43.200 --> 00:30:45.100
- HELP SOMEBODY...
- 00:30:45.100 --> 00:30:47.120
- - JASON: SURE.
- 00:30:47.120 --> 00:30:47.270
- - CLIFTON: ...DARRYL, YOU
- 00:30:47.270 --> 00:30:50.250
- OPENED A FOUNDATION THAT WOULD
- 00:30:50.250 --> 00:30:51.250
- MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN YOUNG
- 00:30:51.250 --> 00:30:53.000
- LIVES.
- 00:30:53.000 --> 00:30:53.150
- - JASON: YEAH.
- 00:30:53.150 --> 00:30:54.000
- - CLIFTON: TALK A LITTLE BIT
- 00:30:54.000 --> 00:30:55.130
- ABOUT THAT FOUNDATION.
- 00:30:55.130 --> 00:30:56.020
- - DARRYL: WELL, ME AND MY WIFE
- 00:30:56.020 --> 00:30:57.150
- WE CAME FROM ADDICTION
- 00:30:59.210 --> 00:31:00.110
- AND SHE HAS, YOU KNOW,
- 00:31:00.110 --> 00:31:02.090
- OVER 18 YEARS IN RECOVERY AND I
- 00:31:02.090 --> 00:31:03.210
- HAVE 16.
- 00:31:03.210 --> 00:31:05.050
- AND, UM, WHAT WE DECIDED TO DO
- 00:31:05.050 --> 00:31:07.040
- WAS START HELPING ACROSS
- 00:31:07.040 --> 00:31:08.210
- AMERICA, ACROSS THE GLOBE.
- 00:31:08.210 --> 00:31:10.020
- THIS IS NOT ABOUT A POLITICAL--
- 00:31:10.020 --> 00:31:11.260
- BEING POLITICALLY
- 00:31:11.260 --> 00:31:14.040
- CORRECT.
- 00:31:14.040 --> 00:31:15.170
- THIS IS A BROKENNESS ACROSS
- 00:31:18.140 --> 00:31:19.040
- AMERICA, UH, WITH YOUNG PEOPLE
- 00:31:19.040 --> 00:31:20.080
- WHO ARE ADDICTED TO DRUGS,
- 00:31:20.080 --> 00:31:21.070
- TODAY.
- 00:31:21.070 --> 00:31:22.200
- SO, I GO INTO THE HIGH SCHOOLS
- 00:31:22.250 --> 00:31:25.250
- AND MIDDLE SCHOOLS, AND I GO IN
- 00:31:25.250 --> 00:31:26.170
- AND SHARE TO THE KIDS AND TRY
- 00:31:26.170 --> 00:31:28.100
- TO BRING AWARENESS ABOUT:
- 00:31:28.100 --> 00:31:30.090
- DON'T DO DRUGS.
- 00:31:30.090 --> 00:31:30.250
- - CLIFTON: YEAH.
- 00:31:30.250 --> 00:31:31.110
- - DARRYL: YOU KNOW, DON'T--
- 00:31:31.110 --> 00:31:32.260
- YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S TALKIN'
- 00:31:32.260 --> 00:31:34.180
- ABOUT MARIJUANA'S NOT A DRUG.
- 00:31:34.180 --> 00:31:35.090
- YES, IT IS.
- 00:31:35.090 --> 00:31:35.210
- IT'S GONNA ALTER THEIR MIND.
- 00:31:35.210 --> 00:31:36.110
- IT'S GONNA CHANGE THEIR MIND.
- 00:31:36.110 --> 00:31:38.000
- YOU KNOW?
- 00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:38.250
- [APPLAUSE]
- 00:31:40.160 --> 00:31:43.160
- FOR US TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN
- 00:31:43.160 --> 00:31:45.240
- YOUNG PEOPLE'S LIVES OR
- 00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:47.090
- PEOPLE'S LIVES PERIOD THAT ARE
- 00:31:47.090 --> 00:31:48.180
- ADDICTED, UM, WE HAVE TO BE
- 00:31:48.180 --> 00:31:50.160
- REAL ABOUT IT.
- 00:31:50.160 --> 00:31:52.160
- YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T SIT HERE AND
- 00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:53.250
- SUGARCOAT IT.
- 00:31:53.250 --> 00:31:54.280
- AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE AT WHERE
- 00:31:55.170 --> 00:31:58.170
- WE'RE AT TODAY, THE EPIDEMIC
- 00:31:58.170 --> 00:31:59.070
- WE'RE AT TODAY.
- 00:31:59.070 --> 00:32:00.260
- NEW JERSEY'S ALREADY HAD 300
- 00:32:00.260 --> 00:32:01.220
- DEATHS OF OVERDOSE FROM OPIATE.
- 00:32:01.220 --> 00:32:03.240
- - CLIFTON: MMH-MMH-MMH...
- 00:32:03.240 --> 00:32:05.030
- - DARRYL: YOU KNOW?
- 00:32:05.030 --> 00:32:05.210
- I GET A PHONE CALL EVERY DAY
- 00:32:05.210 --> 00:32:06.110
- ABOUT SOMEONE DYING: "WHAT DO I
- 00:32:06.110 --> 00:32:07.040
- DO?"
- 00:32:07.040 --> 00:32:09.090
- AND I SAID-- YOU KNOW, THEY HAD
- 00:32:09.090 --> 00:32:11.150
- ME, WANTED ME TO DO-- BE
- 00:32:11.150 --> 00:32:13.030
- INVOLVED WITH, YOU KNOW,
- 00:32:13.030 --> 00:32:14.000
- POLITICAL PEOPLE.
- 00:32:14.000 --> 00:32:14.240
- SO, I SAID, "NO -- THIS IS
- 00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:15.210
- ABOUT FAITH, THIS IS ABOUT GOD,
- 00:32:15.210 --> 00:32:18.200
- THIS IS ABOUT GETTING PROGRAMS
- 00:32:18.200 --> 00:32:20.150
- THAT'S GONNA TEACH BIBLICAL
- 00:32:20.150 --> 00:32:22.050
- PRINCIPLES.
- 00:32:22.050 --> 00:32:22.190
- - JASON: YES.
- 00:32:22.190 --> 00:32:23.040
- - DARRYL: IF YOU DON'T WANNA
- 00:32:23.040 --> 00:32:24.040
- TEACH BIBLICAL PRINCIPLES, I
- 00:32:24.040 --> 00:32:25.110
- DON'T REALLY WANNA BE A PART OF
- 00:32:25.110 --> 00:32:26.030
- IT.
- 00:32:26.030 --> 00:32:26.170
- YOU KNOW?
- 00:32:26.170 --> 00:32:28.030
- [APPLAUSE]
- 00:32:28.030 --> 00:32:28.210
- I'VE ALREADY--
- 00:32:29.260 --> 00:32:32.260
- I'VE ALREADY...
- 00:32:32.260 --> 00:32:35.100
- ....I'VE ALREADY EXPERIENCED IT
- 00:32:35.100 --> 00:32:36.020
- ON THE-- I'VE ALREADY
- 00:32:36.020 --> 00:32:37.190
- EXPERIENCED IT ON THE NATURAL
- 00:32:37.190 --> 00:32:38.100
- SIDE, AND, YOU KNOW, NOTHIN'
- 00:32:38.100 --> 00:32:39.000
- WRONG WITH THAT.
- 00:32:39.000 --> 00:32:39.270
- YOU KNOW, NATURAL-- YOU KNOW,
- 00:32:39.270 --> 00:32:40.250
- 12-STEP PROGRAMS ARE GREAT.
- 00:32:40.250 --> 00:32:41.160
- BUT, WE AT A TIME WHERE YOU
- 00:32:41.160 --> 00:32:42.120
- NEED BIBLICAL PRINCIPLES, YOU
- 00:32:42.120 --> 00:32:43.050
- KNOW?
- 00:32:43.050 --> 00:32:44.020
- IF YOU WANT LIVES SAVED, JESUS
- 00:32:44.020 --> 00:32:44.230
- IS THE ONLY ONE GONNA SAVE
- 00:32:44.230 --> 00:32:45.270
- THOSE LIVES.
- 00:32:45.270 --> 00:32:46.240
- - CLIFTON: MM-HMM.
- 00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:47.180
- - DARRYL: IT'S NOT A MAN, IT'S
- 00:32:47.180 --> 00:32:48.140
- NOT A 12-STEP, IT'S NOT A
- 00:32:48.140 --> 00:32:49.140
- PROGRAM.
- 00:32:49.140 --> 00:32:52.100
- [APPLAUSE]
- 00:32:52.100 --> 00:32:53.280
- SO MANY COME IN AND STRADDLE
- 00:32:53.280 --> 00:32:55.040
- THE FENCE AND--
- 00:32:55.040 --> 00:32:56.190
- AND GO BACK OUT AND THEY WONDER
- 00:32:56.190 --> 00:32:57.110
- WHY THEY GO BACK OUT.
- 00:32:57.110 --> 00:32:59.120
- BECAUSE YOU-- YOU CAN'T BE WELL
- 00:32:59.120 --> 00:33:00.200
- ON THE INSIDE UNTIL JESUS HEAL
- 00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:01.180
- YOU.
- 00:33:01.230 --> 00:33:04.230
- YOU KNOW, YOU CAN KEEP TRYIN'
- 00:33:04.230 --> 00:33:05.140
- EVERYTHING TO MAKE YOU LOOK
- 00:33:05.140 --> 00:33:06.040
- GOOD ON THE OUTSIDE AND DRESS
- 00:33:06.040 --> 00:33:06.250
- UP ON THE OUTSIDE.
- 00:33:06.250 --> 00:33:07.160
- SO, I SUCH A PASSION AND SUCH
- 00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:10.090
- AN URGENCY GETTIN' UP EVERY
- 00:33:10.090 --> 00:33:12.040
- DAY, UH, DOIN' WHAT CHRIST DID
- 00:33:12.040 --> 00:33:13.240
- 2.000 YEARS AGO.
- 00:33:13.240 --> 00:33:16.000
- WHAT DID JESUS DO...WHEN WE
- 00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:17.000
- REALLY THINK ABOUT IT?
- 00:33:17.000 --> 00:33:18.230
- WHAT DID JESUS DO?
- 00:33:18.230 --> 00:33:19.190
- ALL JESUS DID WAS LOVE PEOPLE.
- 00:33:19.190 --> 00:33:21.140
- WHEN ARE WE GONNA GET BACK TO
- 00:33:21.140 --> 00:33:24.040
- THAT?
- 00:33:24.040 --> 00:33:25.070
- YOU KNOW?
- 00:33:25.070 --> 00:33:27.070
- THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GONNA
- 00:33:27.070 --> 00:33:27.290
- BE ABLE TO HELP PEOPLE IS
- 00:33:27.290 --> 00:33:28.180
- LOVIN' 'EM.
- 00:33:28.180 --> 00:33:30.240
- I DON'T CARE IF YOU'RE
- 00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:31.110
- BLACK, WHITE, BLUE --
- 00:33:31.110 --> 00:33:31.280
- THAT DON'T MATTER.
- 00:33:31.280 --> 00:33:32.140
- WHEN HE HUNG ON THAT CROSS, HE
- 00:33:32.140 --> 00:33:34.080
- HUNG ON THAT CROSS FOR
- 00:33:34.080 --> 00:33:35.200
- EVERYBODY.
- 00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:36.030
- [APPLAUSE]
- 00:33:36.030 --> 00:33:37.170
- SO, THAT'S WHAT WE...
- 00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:41.160
- [APPLAUSE]
- 00:33:41.160 --> 00:33:42.160
- THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO COME TO
- 00:33:42.160 --> 00:33:43.240
- AS PEOPLE.
- 00:33:43.240 --> 00:33:44.270
- WE HAVE TO COME TO THAT PLACE
- 00:33:44.270 --> 00:33:46.100
- WHERE WE LEARN-- LEARN TO LOVE
- 00:33:46.100 --> 00:33:48.010
- PEOPLE AND MEET 'EM RIGHT WHERE
- 00:33:48.010 --> 00:33:48.230
- THEY AT.
- 00:33:48.230 --> 00:33:50.090
- AND YOU CAN'T HELP 'EM IF YOU
- 00:33:50.090 --> 00:33:51.000
- DON'T LOVE 'EM.
- 00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:51.140
- - CLIFTON: THAT'S RIGHT.
- 00:33:51.140 --> 00:33:52.070
- - DARRYL: IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO--
- 00:33:52.070 --> 00:33:52.290
- IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO HELP PEOPLE
- 00:33:52.290 --> 00:33:53.200
- IF YOU SAY, "I WANNA HELP 'EM,
- 00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:54.160
- BUT I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT THEIR
- 00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:55.160
- PROBLEM."
- 00:33:55.160 --> 00:33:56.020
- I CAN'T HELP 'EM IF I--
- 00:33:56.020 --> 00:33:58.060
- YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THERE-- WE
- 00:33:58.060 --> 00:33:59.190
- KNOW THERE'S A PROBLEM THERE.
- 00:33:59.190 --> 00:34:02.020
- BUT WHAT IS THE SOLUTION.
- 00:34:02.020 --> 00:34:03.280
- THE SOLUTION IS JESUS CHRIST
- 00:34:03.280 --> 00:34:05.160
- HIMSELF!
- 00:34:05.160 --> 00:34:06.220
- [APPLAUSE]
- 00:34:08.170 --> 00:34:11.170
- - CLIFTON: WELL...
- 00:34:11.170 --> 00:34:13.220
- - JASON: THAT'S IT, MAN.
- 00:34:13.220 --> 00:34:14.110
- - CLIFTON: ...HE...HE
- 00:34:14.110 --> 00:34:15.090
- CERTAINLY IS IN THE HEALING
- 00:34:15.090 --> 00:34:15.290
- BUSINESS.
- 00:34:15.290 --> 00:34:16.100
- I'M A WITNESS.
- 00:34:16.100 --> 00:34:17.070
- I'M ONE HIS PATIENTS--
- 00:34:17.070 --> 00:34:19.080
- - DARRYL: COME ON!
- 00:34:19.080 --> 00:34:19.240
- - CLIFTON: --WHO'S BEEN
- 00:34:19.240 --> 00:34:21.270
- HEALED.
- 00:34:21.270 --> 00:34:22.130
- [APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
- 00:34:22.130 --> 00:34:23.150
- [DARRYL LAUGHS]
- 00:34:23.150 --> 00:34:24.010
- I SPOKE AT--
- 00:34:24.010 --> 00:34:25.160
- [APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
- 00:34:25.160 --> 00:34:26.080
- I'VE SPOKEN AT MORE THAN...MORE
- 00:34:26.080 --> 00:34:27.000
- THAN 50 DIFFERENT COLLEGES,
- 00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:27.250
- UNIVERSITIES.
- 00:34:27.250 --> 00:34:30.180
- AND I TALKED ABOUT MY PERSONAL
- 00:34:30.180 --> 00:34:31.250
- EXPERIENCE WITH ADDICTION IN
- 00:34:31.250 --> 00:34:33.070
- EACH OF THESE SCHOOLS.
- 00:34:33.070 --> 00:34:35.080
- AND I LET THEM KNOW, YES, YOU
- 00:34:35.080 --> 00:34:36.210
- HAVE TO FIRST ADMIT THAT YOU
- 00:34:36.210 --> 00:34:38.220
- HAVE A PROBLEM IF YOU WANT TO
- 00:34:38.220 --> 00:34:40.180
- FIX THE PROBLEM.
- 00:34:40.180 --> 00:34:41.260
- - DARRYL: RIGHT.
- 00:34:41.260 --> 00:34:42.110
- - CLIFTON: AND THE OTHER THING
- 00:34:42.110 --> 00:34:44.040
- I SHARED WITH THEM WAS: I DON'T
- 00:34:44.040 --> 00:34:45.100
- KNOW WHAT MEANS YOU'RE USING,
- 00:34:45.150 --> 00:34:48.150
- BUT I TRIED THE DIVINE
- 00:34:48.150 --> 00:34:49.020
- ALTERNATIVE AND IT WORKED FOR
- 00:34:49.020 --> 00:34:51.020
- ME.
- 00:34:51.020 --> 00:34:51.210
- HIS NAME IS JESUS.
- 00:34:51.210 --> 00:34:53.240
- - DARRYL: COME ON.
- 00:34:53.240 --> 00:34:54.210
- [APPLAUSE]
- 00:34:54.210 --> 00:34:55.110
- - CLIFTON: SO...
- 00:34:55.110 --> 00:34:56.050
- - JASON: THAT'S IT.
- 00:34:56.050 --> 00:34:57.080
- - CLIFTON: ...TELL US ABOUT
- 00:34:57.080 --> 00:34:57.280
- THE CLEAN, SOBER & SAVED
- 00:34:57.280 --> 00:34:59.160
- PROGRAM--
- 00:34:59.160 --> 00:35:01.010
- - DARRYL: YEAH.
- 00:35:01.010 --> 00:35:02.090
- - CLIFTON: --THAT YOUR--
- 00:35:02.090 --> 00:35:03.160
- - DARRYL: YEAH.
- 00:35:03.160 --> 00:35:04.000
- - CLIFTON: --YOUR WIFE AND YOU
- 00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:04.220
- PUT TOGETHER.
- 00:35:04.220 --> 00:35:05.050
- - DARRYL: WELL, IT'S A
- 00:35:05.050 --> 00:35:05.230
- CURRICULUM THAT MY WIFE, UH--
- 00:35:05.230 --> 00:35:06.270
- THE LORD DOWNLOADED IT IN HER.
- 00:35:06.270 --> 00:35:08.190
- IT'S A 12-STEP BIBLICAL
- 00:35:08.190 --> 00:35:10.050
- CURRICULUM ABOUT CLEAN, SOBER,
- 00:35:10.050 --> 00:35:11.090
- AND SAVED.
- 00:35:11.090 --> 00:35:12.010
- YOU KNOW?
- 00:35:12.010 --> 00:35:13.070
- YOU GET CLEAN, YOU GET SOBER,
- 00:35:13.070 --> 00:35:14.160
- BUT, YOU GOTTA GET THE SAVED
- 00:35:14.160 --> 00:35:15.180
- PART, TOO.
- 00:35:17.070 --> 00:35:20.070
- BECAUSE THE SAVED PART IS GOING
- 00:35:20.070 --> 00:35:20.290
- TO ENTER YOU AND IT'S GOING TO
- 00:35:20.290 --> 00:35:21.200
- USHER YOU INTO THE PURPOSE OF
- 00:35:21.200 --> 00:35:22.110
- CREATION.
- 00:35:22.110 --> 00:35:22.220
- SEE, WHEN YOU GET SAVED,
- 00:35:22.220 --> 00:35:24.280
- THERE'S A CREA-- THERE'S A
- 00:35:24.280 --> 00:35:25.170
- GREAT REASON OF-- FOR YOU OF
- 00:35:25.170 --> 00:35:27.120
- LIVING, YOU KNOW?
- 00:35:27.120 --> 00:35:30.110
- AND THAT'S WHAT THAT ROMANS
- 00:35:30.110 --> 00:35:31.010
- 8:28 TALKS ABOUT.
- 00:35:31.010 --> 00:35:31.240
- - CLIFTON: MM-HMM.
- 00:35:31.240 --> 00:35:32.180
- - DARRYL: IT SAYS: AND WE
- 00:35:32.180 --> 00:35:33.070
- KNOW...AND WE KNOW ALL THINGS
- 00:35:33.070 --> 00:35:34.210
- WORK TOGETHER FOR THE GOOD OF
- 00:35:34.210 --> 00:35:35.160
- THEM WHO LOVE THE LORD THROUGH
- 00:35:35.160 --> 00:35:36.130
- THOSE CALLED ACCORDING TO HIS
- 00:35:36.130 --> 00:35:37.080
- PURPOSE.
- 00:35:37.080 --> 00:35:38.040
- SEE, NOW YOU START
- 00:35:38.040 --> 00:35:39.180
- UNDERSTANDING WHO YOU ARE WHEN
- 00:35:39.180 --> 00:35:41.200
- YOU GET SAVED, ON THE INSIDE,
- 00:35:41.200 --> 00:35:43.050
- YOU KNOW.
- 00:35:43.050 --> 00:35:44.180
- 'CAUSE, IF YOU DON'T NEVER GET
- 00:35:44.180 --> 00:35:47.060
- SAVED, YOU'RE NEVER GONNA KNOW
- 00:35:47.060 --> 00:35:47.270
- WHO YOU ARE.
- 00:35:47.270 --> 00:35:48.230
- YOU'RE STILL JUST GONNA FLOAT
- 00:35:48.230 --> 00:35:49.140
- AROUND HERE AND THINK:
- 00:35:49.140 --> 00:35:50.150
- WELL, YOU KNOW, I CAN BE
- 00:35:50.150 --> 00:35:51.030
- THE NEXT THIS, THE NEXT THAT,
- 00:35:51.030 --> 00:35:51.280
- THE NEXT THAT.
- 00:35:51.280 --> 00:35:52.160
- AND-- WELL, HE'S THE KING, THIS
- 00:35:52.160 --> 00:35:54.030
- THE KING.
- 00:35:54.030 --> 00:35:55.250
- THERE'S ONLY ONE KING.
- 00:35:55.250 --> 00:35:56.150
- YOU KNOW, THERE'S ONLY
- 00:35:56.150 --> 00:35:57.250
- ONE KING...
- 00:35:57.250 --> 00:35:58.160
- [APPLAUSE]
- 00:35:58.160 --> 00:35:59.070
- ...YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAY--
- 00:35:59.070 --> 00:35:59.260
- JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF.
- 00:35:59.260 --> 00:36:00.260
- - CLIFTON: THAT'S RIGHT, HE'S
- 00:36:00.260 --> 00:36:01.170
- KING.
- 00:36:01.170 --> 00:36:01.260
- - DARRYL: YEAH.
- 00:36:01.260 --> 00:36:02.180
- - CLIFTON: THAT'S RIGHT.
- 00:36:02.180 --> 00:36:03.100
- [APPLAUSE]
- 00:36:03.100 --> 00:36:04.030
- - DARRYL: AND WHEN YOU...
- 00:36:04.030 --> 00:36:04.220
- [APPLAUSE]
- 00:36:04.220 --> 00:36:05.030
- ...AND WHEN YOU...
- 00:36:05.030 --> 00:36:05.190
- [APPLAUSE]
- 00:36:05.190 --> 00:36:06.090
- ...AND WHEN YOU COME TO THAT
- 00:36:06.090 --> 00:36:07.220
- PLACE OF KNOWING HIM, THEN, YOU
- 00:36:07.220 --> 00:36:08.190
- TRULY HAVE FALLEN IN LOVE WITH
- 00:36:08.190 --> 00:36:10.070
- HIM...
- 00:36:10.070 --> 00:36:11.050
- - CLIFTON: MM-HMM
- 00:36:11.050 --> 00:36:12.010
- - DARRYL: ...AND HAD A-- NOT
- 00:36:12.010 --> 00:36:13.110
- A-- YOU'VE HAD A REAL
- 00:36:13.110 --> 00:36:14.260
- RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM.
- 00:36:14.260 --> 00:36:15.210
- NOW, YOU'RE ABLE TO DO THINGS
- 00:36:15.210 --> 00:36:17.260
- THAT-- THAT ARE...NOT JUST--
- 00:36:18.060 --> 00:36:21.060
- YOU'RE AN ORDINARY PERSON, BUT
- 00:36:21.060 --> 00:36:22.290
- YOU CAN DO EXTRAORDINARY THINGS
- 00:36:22.290 --> 00:36:24.150
- BECAUSE OF HIM.
- 00:36:24.150 --> 00:36:25.170
- - CLIFTON: YES.
- 00:36:25.170 --> 00:36:26.050
- - DARRYL: YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S
- 00:36:26.050 --> 00:36:27.290
- WHAT THE CURRICULUM
- 00:36:27.290 --> 00:36:29.200
- CLEAN, SOBER, SAVED IS --
- 00:36:29.200 --> 00:36:30.250
- IT'S TRYING TO GET PEOPLE WELL
- 00:36:33.000 --> 00:36:33.220
- ON THE INSIDE.
- 00:36:33.220 --> 00:36:34.050
- YOU KNOW, WE FOCUS TOO MUCH ON
- 00:36:34.050 --> 00:36:35.050
- THE OUTSIDE OF WHAT A PERSON
- 00:36:35.050 --> 00:36:35.270
- LOOK LIKE.
- 00:36:35.270 --> 00:36:36.290
- WE NEVER FOCUS ON THE INSIDE.
- 00:36:36.290 --> 00:36:37.260
- AND THE REAL PROBLEM'S ON THE
- 00:36:37.260 --> 00:36:39.000
- INSIDE.
- 00:36:39.000 --> 00:36:40.210
- AND IF WE CAN GET THEM TO GET
- 00:36:40.210 --> 00:36:41.120
- TO CLEAN, SOBER, AND THEN WE
- 00:36:41.120 --> 00:36:42.270
- CAN GET 'EM THE SAVED PART,
- 00:36:42.270 --> 00:36:45.240
- GET 'EM INTO THE BIBLICAL
- 00:36:45.240 --> 00:36:47.040
- PRINCIPLES, NOW THEY CAN LIVE
- 00:36:47.040 --> 00:36:47.250
- OUT THE PURPOSE...OF THEIR
- 00:36:47.250 --> 00:36:48.150
- - CLIFTON: YES.
- 00:36:49.090 --> 00:36:50.010
- - DARRYL: YEAH.
- 00:36:50.010 --> 00:36:50.250
- - CLIFTON: WELL, JESUS CHRIST
- 00:36:50.250 --> 00:36:51.290
- DIDN'T ASK THE WOMAN CAUGHT IN
- 00:36:51.290 --> 00:36:53.250
- ADULTERY HOW SHE GOT INTO THAT
- 00:36:53.250 --> 00:36:54.250
- SITUATION.
- 00:36:54.250 --> 00:36:55.200
- UH, HE JUST ASKED, "DO YOU
- 00:36:55.200 --> 00:36:57.230
- WANNA BE MADE WHOLE?"
- 00:36:57.230 --> 00:36:59.210
- - DARRYL: RIGHT.
- 00:36:59.210 --> 00:37:00.090
- - CLIFTON: DO YOU WANNA GET
- 00:37:00.090 --> 00:37:01.160
- OUT?
- 00:37:01.160 --> 00:37:02.180
- - DARRYL: RIGHT.
- 00:37:02.180 --> 00:37:03.220
- - CLIFTON: I DON'T NEED TO
- 00:37:03.290 --> 00:37:06.290
- HEAR THE DEEP AND DARK STORY OF
- 00:37:06.290 --> 00:37:07.210
- SOMEBODY'S...ROAD TO ADDICTION.
- 00:37:07.270 --> 00:37:10.270
- - DARRYL: RIGHT.
- 00:37:10.270 --> 00:37:11.140
- - CLIFTON: I KNOW; I'VE BEEN
- 00:37:11.140 --> 00:37:12.070
- DOWN THAT ROAD.
- 00:37:12.070 --> 00:37:12.290
- - DARRYL: YEAH.
- 00:37:12.290 --> 00:37:14.070
- - CLIFTON: I JUST WANNA KNOW:
- 00:37:14.070 --> 00:37:15.050
- ARE YOU WILLING TO BE MADE
- 00:37:15.050 --> 00:37:15.290
- WHOLE?
- 00:37:15.290 --> 00:37:16.240
- - DARRYL: RIGHT.
- 00:37:16.240 --> 00:37:17.220
- - CLIFTON: BECAUSE I OFFER
- 00:37:17.220 --> 00:37:19.170
- JESUS CHRIST AS A HEALER, AS,
- 00:37:19.170 --> 00:37:21.120
- UH...AS OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.
- 00:37:21.120 --> 00:37:24.080
- - DARRYL: YEAH.
- 00:37:24.080 --> 00:37:25.080
- - CLIFTON: HIS BLOOD IS CLEAN.
- 00:37:25.080 --> 00:37:26.000
- IT CAN WASH US AND MAKE US
- 00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:28.010
- WHOLE AGAIN.
- 00:37:28.010 --> 00:37:29.040
- - DARRYL: YEAH, WELL, YOU
- 00:37:29.040 --> 00:37:29.290
- KNOW, THAT'S IT -- THAT'S SO
- 00:37:29.290 --> 00:37:31.010
- TRUE.
- 00:37:31.010 --> 00:37:31.270
- 'CAUSE, HE'S MORE THAN-- HE'S
- 00:37:31.270 --> 00:37:33.090
- MORE THAN ANYTHING THAT YOU
- 00:37:33.090 --> 00:37:34.180
- WILL EVER RECEIVE.
- 00:37:34.180 --> 00:37:36.020
- YOU KNOW, HE'S-- SEE, HE'S THE
- 00:37:36.020 --> 00:37:38.020
- ALPHA, HE'S THE OMEGA, THE
- 00:37:38.020 --> 00:37:39.010
- BEGINNING, THE END.
- 00:37:39.010 --> 00:37:39.250
- YOU KNOW, HE'S THE KING OF
- 00:37:39.250 --> 00:37:40.220
- KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS, YOU
- 00:37:40.220 --> 00:37:41.190
- KNOW...
- 00:37:41.190 --> 00:37:42.050
- - CLIFTON: AMEN.
- 00:37:42.050 --> 00:37:43.040
- - DARRYL: ...AND ALL THOSE
- 00:37:43.040 --> 00:37:43.240
- THINGS, SO...
- 00:37:43.240 --> 00:37:44.080
- [CLIFTON LAUGHS]
- 00:37:44.080 --> 00:37:44.240
- HE'S MORE THAN-- HE'S MORE THAN
- 00:37:44.240 --> 00:37:45.220
- WE DESERVE!
- 00:37:45.220 --> 00:37:46.140
- - CLIFTON: YES, YES.
- 00:37:46.140 --> 00:37:47.160
- - DARRYL: YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU
- 00:37:47.160 --> 00:37:48.070
- COME--
- 00:37:48.070 --> 00:37:48.220
- - JASON: HE LIVED OUT WHAT
- 00:37:48.220 --> 00:37:49.130
- WE'VE ALL BEEN THROUGH.
- 00:37:49.130 --> 00:37:50.110
- HE'S LIVED IT HIMSELF.
- 00:37:50.110 --> 00:37:51.000
- - DARRYL: EXACTLY.
- 00:37:51.000 --> 00:37:51.160
- - JASON: HE DIDN'T JUST SPEAK
- 00:37:51.160 --> 00:37:52.080
- IT; HE LIVED IT.
- 00:37:52.080 --> 00:37:52.240
- HE WALKED THIS EARTH AND WAS
- 00:37:52.240 --> 00:37:53.270
- BETRAYED, AND WAS BEATEN, AND
- 00:37:53.270 --> 00:37:54.180
- WAS--
- 00:37:54.180 --> 00:37:55.200
- - DARRYL: COME ON.
- 00:37:55.200 --> 00:37:56.180
- - JASON: --YOU KNOW, ALL THAT.
- 00:37:56.240 --> 00:37:59.240
- HE WALKED THROUGH US AND HE
- 00:37:59.240 --> 00:38:00.160
- WENT THROUGH IT...AND HE CAME
- 00:38:00.160 --> 00:38:01.070
- OUT ON THE OTHER SIDE AND STILL
- 00:38:01.070 --> 00:38:01.290
- WENT TO THE CROSS FOR US.
- 00:38:01.290 --> 00:38:02.180
- - DARRYL: RIGHT.
- 00:38:02.180 --> 00:38:03.030
- COME ON.
- 00:38:03.030 --> 00:38:03.130
- - CLIFTON: AMEN.
- 00:38:03.130 --> 00:38:03.280
- - DARRYL: AMEN.
- 00:38:03.280 --> 00:38:04.170
- - JASON: AND THAT'S IT, MAN.
- 00:38:04.170 --> 00:38:05.160
- - CLIFTON: SOMEBODY APPLAUD
- 00:38:05.160 --> 00:38:06.060
- THAT, PLEASE.
- 00:38:06.060 --> 00:38:06.210
- [APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
- 00:38:09.200 --> 00:38:12.200
- - DARRYL: EMBRACE IT.
- 00:38:12.200 --> 00:38:13.070
- [LAUGHS]
- 00:38:13.070 --> 00:38:15.250
- - CLIFTON: IT'S THE TRUTH,
- 00:38:15.250 --> 00:38:16.150
- ANYHOW.
- 00:38:16.150 --> 00:38:16.250
- - DARRYL: YES.
- 00:38:16.250 --> 00:38:17.090
- - CLIFTON: LET'S TALK ABOUT
- 00:38:17.090 --> 00:38:17.290
- FORGIVENESS.
- 00:38:17.290 --> 00:38:18.110
- BECAUSE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF
- 00:38:18.110 --> 00:38:19.190
- ADDICTION, IF THE HEALING IS
- 00:38:19.190 --> 00:38:22.050
- GOING RIGHT, IS FORGIVENESS.
- 00:38:22.050 --> 00:38:23.210
- - DARRYL: MM-HMM.
- 00:38:23.210 --> 00:38:24.190
- - CLIFTON: FORGIVENESS IS
- 00:38:24.190 --> 00:38:25.240
- RELEASING SOMEBODY AND SETTING
- 00:38:25.240 --> 00:38:27.250
- THEM FREE FROM THE CONDEMNATION
- 00:38:27.250 --> 00:38:28.290
- OF SOMETHING THAT WAS DONE
- 00:38:28.290 --> 00:38:30.240
- BEFORE, WHILE LETTING THEM KNOW
- 00:38:30.240 --> 00:38:32.170
- IT'S PUT BEHIND US.
- 00:38:32.170 --> 00:38:34.080
- THAT'S WHAT FORGIVENESS REALLY
- 00:38:34.080 --> 00:38:36.260
- IS.
- 00:38:36.260 --> 00:38:38.100
- WHAT ARE SOME SIGNS THAT YOU'RE
- 00:38:38.100 --> 00:38:39.290
- LIVING WITH AN ADDICT WHO NEEDS
- 00:38:39.290 --> 00:38:41.160
- FORGIVENESS?
- 00:38:41.160 --> 00:38:43.210
- - JASON: OOFH...
- 00:38:43.210 --> 00:38:44.270
- I MEAN, I THINK, FOR MANY
- 00:38:44.270 --> 00:38:46.200
- YEARS, FOR MY DAD, I BECAME A
- 00:38:46.200 --> 00:38:48.130
- CHRISTIAN AND STARTED WALKING
- 00:38:48.130 --> 00:38:49.250
- I WAS 26.
- 00:38:51.140 --> 00:38:52.060
- AND FOR ABOUT 10, OR 11, OR 12,
- 00:38:52.060 --> 00:38:53.150
- OR 13 MORE YEARS, I STILL
- 00:38:53.150 --> 00:38:54.190
- HADN'T COME TO A PLACE WHERE I
- 00:38:54.190 --> 00:38:57.140
- COULD FORGIVE MY DAD.
- 00:38:57.140 --> 00:38:58.280
- I THOUGHT I UNDERSTOOD
- 00:38:58.280 --> 00:38:59.280
- FORGIVENESS WITH JESUS GOING TO
- 00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:01.160
- THE CROSS AND FORGIVING MY SINS
- 00:39:01.160 --> 00:39:02.260
- EVERY DAY, AND I STILL COULDN'T
- 00:39:02.260 --> 00:39:04.230
- AND IT WAS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I
- 00:39:08.150 --> 00:39:10.050
- WAS ANGRY AT HIM.
- 00:39:10.050 --> 00:39:10.210
- I WAS BITTER AT HIM.
- 00:39:10.210 --> 00:39:11.190
- AND, WHEN YOU LOOK IN EPHESIANS
- 00:39:11.190 --> 00:39:13.060
- 4, IT SAYS, "LET ALL
- 00:39:13.060 --> 00:39:14.220
- BITTERNESS...AND ANGER...AND
- 00:39:14.220 --> 00:39:16.140
- SLANDER BE PUT AWAY FROM YOU,
- 00:39:16.140 --> 00:39:18.200
- ALONG WITH ALL MALICE."
- 00:39:18.200 --> 00:39:20.170
- AND THEN, IT SAYS -- WHAT?
- 00:39:20.170 --> 00:39:21.240
- "...FORGIVE ONE ANOTHER AS
- 00:39:21.240 --> 00:39:23.120
- GOD IN CHRIST FORGAVE US."
- 00:39:23.120 --> 00:39:24.160
- FOR ME, I STRUGGLE WITH THAT.
- 00:39:24.160 --> 00:39:26.010
- BECAUSE I CAN FORGIVE ANYONE
- 00:39:26.010 --> 00:39:28.000
- WHO DID ANYTHING WRONG TO ME,
- 00:39:28.000 --> 00:39:29.240
- BUT NOT WHEN IT CAME TO MY DAD.
- 00:39:29.240 --> 00:39:32.070
- THERE WAS A LOT OF DEEP-SEATED
- 00:39:32.070 --> 00:39:32.280
- PAIN IN THERE.
- 00:39:32.280 --> 00:39:34.190
- - CLIFTON: YEAH.
- 00:39:34.190 --> 00:39:35.040
- - JASON: AND IT WAS VERY, VERY
- 00:39:35.040 --> 00:39:35.260
- HARD.
- 00:39:35.260 --> 00:39:36.090
- BUT YOU KNOW WHAT THE KEY FOR
- 00:39:36.090 --> 00:39:37.000
- ME WAS?
- 00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:38.210
- WHEN I REALIZED THAT MY DAD, IN
- 00:39:38.210 --> 00:39:41.180
- THE EYES OF GOD, WAS THE SAME
- 00:39:41.180 --> 00:39:43.110
- PERSON AS I WAS AND THE SAME
- 00:39:43.270 --> 00:39:46.270
- PERSON THAT THIS EIGHT-TIME
- 00:39:46.270 --> 00:39:48.180
- ALL-STAR WAS, THE SAME PERSON
- 00:39:48.180 --> 00:39:49.280
- THAT THIS GUY ON TV WHEN I
- 00:39:49.280 --> 00:39:51.070
- WATCHED HIM WHEN I WAS YOUNGER
- 00:39:51.070 --> 00:39:52.240
- -- WE'LL JUST SAY YOUNGER --
- 00:39:52.240 --> 00:39:53.150
- WAS.
- 00:39:53.150 --> 00:39:54.150
- [LAUGHTER]
- 00:39:54.150 --> 00:39:55.090
- THE SAME PERSON IN THE EYES OF
- 00:39:55.090 --> 00:39:56.190
- GOD!
- 00:39:56.190 --> 00:39:57.020
- WE'RE ALL EQUAL.
- 00:39:57.260 --> 00:40:00.260
- AND TO LOOK AT MY DAD AND
- 00:40:00.260 --> 00:40:01.150
- REALIZE THAT-- FINALLY TO SEE
- 00:40:01.150 --> 00:40:02.150
- IT THROUGH THE LENS OF CHRIST,
- 00:40:02.150 --> 00:40:03.070
- HE NEEDED FORGIVENESS BECAUSE
- 00:40:03.070 --> 00:40:05.120
- HE WAS SEEN IN THE EYES OF GOD.
- 00:40:05.120 --> 00:40:07.240
- AND EVERY SINGLE DAY I WAKE UP
- 00:40:07.240 --> 00:40:09.110
- AND I ASK GOD FOR FORGIVENESS
- 00:40:09.110 --> 00:40:10.170
- AND YET I CAN'T EXUDE THAT
- 00:40:10.170 --> 00:40:12.080
- FORGIVENESS ON SOMEONE ELSE.
- 00:40:12.080 --> 00:40:13.150
- SOMETHIN'S WRONG THERE.
- 00:40:13.150 --> 00:40:14.220
- - CLIFTON: YEAH.
- 00:40:14.220 --> 00:40:15.070
- - DARRYL: YEAH.
- 00:40:15.070 --> 00:40:15.230
- - JASON: SOMETHIN'S WRONG.
- 00:40:15.230 --> 00:40:17.000
- SO, THAT'S WHERE-- REALLY WHAT
- 00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:17.220
- IT WAS ABOUT -- WAS SEEING IT
- 00:40:17.220 --> 00:40:18.220
- THROUGH THE LENS OF CHRIST.
- 00:40:18.220 --> 00:40:19.190
- - DARRYL: THAT'S...THAT'S
- 00:40:19.190 --> 00:40:20.140
- PRETTY POWERFUL.
- 00:40:20.140 --> 00:40:21.180
- 'CAUSE THAT'S GOOD, THOUGH,
- 00:40:21.180 --> 00:40:22.080
- 'CAUSE MINE'S WAS, LIKE,
- 00:40:22.080 --> 00:40:24.080
- TOTALLY THE OPPOSITE.
- 00:40:24.080 --> 00:40:24.270
- [JASON LAUGHS]
- 00:40:24.270 --> 00:40:25.110
- YOU KNOW, AND--
- 00:40:25.110 --> 00:40:25.250
- - CLIFTON: HOW'S THAT?
- 00:40:25.250 --> 00:40:26.130
- TELL US ABOUT IT.
- 00:40:26.130 --> 00:40:26.280
- - DARRYL: BECAUSE, UH, MY
- 00:40:26.280 --> 00:40:27.170
- FATHER HAD REJECTED ME AND BEAT
- 00:40:27.170 --> 00:40:28.160
- ME, AND I KEPT HIM OUT OF MY
- 00:40:28.160 --> 00:40:30.270
- LIFE AND MY WHOLE CAREER.
- 00:40:30.270 --> 00:40:32.020
- AND, HE DIDN'T GET TO BE A PART
- 00:40:32.020 --> 00:40:33.180
- OF NONE OF THAT, YOU KNOW --
- 00:40:33.180 --> 00:40:35.270
- JUST BITS AND PIECES, HERE,
- 00:40:35.270 --> 00:40:37.040
- BECAUSE MY WHOLE FAMILY, THE
- 00:40:37.040 --> 00:40:38.250
- REST OF 'EM, WERE A BIG PART OF
- 00:40:38.250 --> 00:40:39.290
- WHO I WAS, AND...AND HE WAS
- 00:40:39.290 --> 00:40:41.130
- LEFT OUT IN THE COLD.
- 00:40:41.130 --> 00:40:42.080
- AND THEN, YOU KNOW, ABOUT FIVE
- 00:40:42.080 --> 00:40:43.150
- YEARS AGO, HE WAS, UM...HE WAS
- 00:40:43.150 --> 00:40:44.180
- SICK.
- 00:40:44.180 --> 00:40:46.200
- HE WAS IN THE HOSPITAL.
- 00:40:46.200 --> 00:40:48.020
- THE LORD HAD...SPOKE TO MY
- 00:40:48.020 --> 00:40:48.220
- HEART.
- 00:40:48.220 --> 00:40:49.020
- I WAS DOING A MEN'S CONFERENCE.
- 00:40:49.020 --> 00:40:49.240
- THE NEXT DAY, HE SAYS: GO DOWN
- 00:40:49.240 --> 00:40:50.220
- AND SEE YOUR FATHER.
- 00:40:50.220 --> 00:40:51.280
- AND, HE DIDN'T JUST ONLY TELL
- 00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:54.240
- ME TO GO SEE HIM.
- 00:40:54.240 --> 00:40:56.120
- HE SAYS: I WANT YOU TO GO DOWN
- 00:40:56.120 --> 00:40:57.070
- TO SEE YOUR FATHER AND I WANT
- 00:40:57.070 --> 00:40:58.030
- YOU TO REPENT TO HIM...FOR
- 00:40:58.030 --> 00:40:59.130
- KEEPING HIM OUT OF YOUR LIFE...
- 00:40:59.130 --> 00:41:00.070
- - CLIFTON: WOW.
- 00:41:00.070 --> 00:41:00.250
- - JASON: WOW...
- 00:41:00.250 --> 00:41:01.090
- - DARRYL: AND SAID: DON'T TALK
- 00:41:01.090 --> 00:41:02.120
- ABOUT NOTHIN' HE DID TO YOU.
- 00:41:02.120 --> 00:41:03.030
- - CLIFTON: MHH!
- 00:41:03.030 --> 00:41:04.080
- - DARRYL: AND I SAID,
- 00:41:04.080 --> 00:41:04.250
- "REALLY?"
- 00:41:04.250 --> 00:41:05.060
- HE SAID: YES.
- 00:41:05.060 --> 00:41:05.240
- AND I SAID, "I DON'T KNOW IF I
- 00:41:05.240 --> 00:41:06.210
- CAN DO THAT."
- 00:41:06.210 --> 00:41:07.130
- HE SAYS: YOU NEED TO GO AND
- 00:41:07.130 --> 00:41:08.220
- REPENT TO YOUR FATHER.
- 00:41:08.220 --> 00:41:09.260
- AND I DID.
- 00:41:09.260 --> 00:41:11.050
- I OBEYED THE LORD.
- 00:41:11.050 --> 00:41:11.260
- AND I WENT DOWN AND I ASKED MY
- 00:41:11.260 --> 00:41:13.100
- FATHER TO FORGIVE ME FOR
- 00:41:13.100 --> 00:41:15.020
- KEEPING HIM OUT OF MY LIFE.
- 00:41:15.020 --> 00:41:16.170
- THE LORD SAID...
- 00:41:16.170 --> 00:41:17.130
- - JASON: MMH.
- 00:41:17.130 --> 00:41:18.130
- - DARRYL: ...THE LORD SAID,
- 00:41:18.130 --> 00:41:19.040
- YOU KNOW...
- 00:41:19.040 --> 00:41:20.130
- [EMOTION CREEPS INTO VOICE]
- 00:41:20.130 --> 00:41:21.040
- ...UH, THE LORD HAD SPOKE TO
- 00:41:21.040 --> 00:41:21.240
- ME, HE SAYS: HOW DARE YOU NOT
- 00:41:21.240 --> 00:41:22.290
- FORGIVE HIM AND I FORGAVE YOU?
- 00:41:22.290 --> 00:41:24.050
- - CLIFTON: MMH...
- 00:41:24.050 --> 00:41:25.110
- - DARRYL: AND I WENT DOWN AND
- 00:41:25.110 --> 00:41:26.190
- I SAID IT.
- 00:41:26.190 --> 00:41:28.210
- I SAID: "I'M SORRY.
- 00:41:28.210 --> 00:41:29.100
- WOULD YOU FORGIVE ME?"
- 00:41:29.100 --> 00:41:30.000
- AND I LAID IN HIS LAP.
- 00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:30.170
- HE SAID, "YES."
- 00:41:30.170 --> 00:41:31.050
- AND I JUST LOST IT.
- 00:41:31.050 --> 00:41:31.210
- - JASON: MMH.
- 00:41:31.210 --> 00:41:32.270
- - DARRYL: I JUST CRIED,
- 00:41:32.270 --> 00:41:33.290
- AND...AND THE LORD SAID:
- 00:41:33.290 --> 00:41:34.170
- RAISE UP.
- 00:41:34.170 --> 00:41:35.050
- AND HE SAYS: NOW, LEAD HIM TO
- 00:41:35.050 --> 00:41:35.260
- ME.
- 00:41:35.260 --> 00:41:37.130
- THERE I WAS, LEADING HIM IN THE
- 00:41:37.130 --> 00:41:38.050
- SINNER'S PRAYER.
- 00:41:38.050 --> 00:41:40.170
- THE MAN THAT BEAT ME, REJECTED
- 00:41:40.170 --> 00:41:41.080
- ME -- I WAS LEADING HIM TO THE
- 00:41:41.080 --> 00:41:41.290
- LORD.
- 00:41:41.290 --> 00:41:42.080
- AND THE LORD REMINDED ME THAT
- 00:41:42.080 --> 00:41:42.290
- THE FORGIVENESS WAS NOT FOR
- 00:41:42.290 --> 00:41:43.190
- HIM; THE FORGIVENESS WAS FOR
- 00:41:43.190 --> 00:41:44.090
- ME.
- 00:41:44.090 --> 00:41:45.060
- HE SAID: NO WONDER--
- 00:41:45.060 --> 00:41:46.110
- [APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
- 00:41:46.110 --> 00:41:47.030
- HE SAID--
- 00:41:47.030 --> 00:41:47.200
- - JASON: YEAH.
- 00:41:47.200 --> 00:41:49.000
- [APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
- 00:41:49.000 --> 00:41:50.150
- - DARRYL: HE EXPLAINED TO
- 00:41:50.150 --> 00:41:51.150
- ME...
- 00:41:51.150 --> 00:41:54.080
- - JASON: THAT'S IT.
- 00:41:54.080 --> 00:41:55.190
- - DARRYL: HE EXPLAINED TO ME
- 00:41:55.190 --> 00:41:56.100
- IN THAT SITUATION, HE SAYS:
- 00:41:56.100 --> 00:41:57.000
- THIS IS WHY YOU WERE NEVER
- 00:41:57.000 --> 00:41:57.190
- FREE.
- 00:41:58.010 --> 00:42:01.030
- BECAUSE YOU COULDN'T LET
- 00:42:01.030 --> 00:42:01.210
- HIM GO.
- 00:42:01.210 --> 00:42:02.010
- WHEN I LET HIM GO -- I RELEASED
- 00:42:02.010 --> 00:42:02.250
- HIM AND GAVE HIM BACK TO THE
- 00:42:02.250 --> 00:42:04.100
- LORD -- I WAS IMMEDIATELY FREE.
- 00:42:04.100 --> 00:42:06.210
- - CLIFTON: MMH!
- 00:42:06.210 --> 00:42:07.220
- - DARRYL: IT WAS A WHOLE
- 00:42:07.220 --> 00:42:08.170
- DIFFERENT-- IT WAS A WHOLE
- 00:42:08.170 --> 00:42:10.140
- DIFFERENT WALK,
- 00:42:10.140 --> 00:42:11.090
- WHOLE DIFFERENT LIFE.
- 00:42:11.090 --> 00:42:11.260
- I HAD NO MORE ANXIETY INSIDE OF
- 00:42:11.260 --> 00:42:12.180
- ME TOWARDS HIM.
- 00:42:12.180 --> 00:42:13.170
- AND I JUST-- I LED HIM TO THE
- 00:42:13.170 --> 00:42:14.230
- LORD AND HE PASSED AWAY LIKE
- 00:42:14.230 --> 00:42:16.210
- FOUR MONTHS LATER.
- 00:42:16.210 --> 00:42:19.070
- BUT...THERE IT WAS.
- 00:42:19.070 --> 00:42:20.010
- GOD USED ME TO LEAD MY ENTIRE
- 00:42:20.010 --> 00:42:21.030
- FAMILY AND MY FATHER TO HIM.
- 00:42:21.120 --> 00:42:24.120
- - CLIFTON: ISN'T THAT
- 00:42:24.120 --> 00:42:25.040
- SOMETHING?
- 00:42:25.040 --> 00:42:25.170
- - JASON: AMAZING.
- 00:42:25.170 --> 00:42:26.020
- - DARRYL: YEAH, YEAH, SO...
- 00:42:26.020 --> 00:42:27.050
- - CLIFTON: WHAT A BLESSING.
- 00:42:27.050 --> 00:42:27.250
- [APPLAUSE]
- 00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:34.000
- THAT-- THAT IS...
- 00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:35.130
- WHY-- WHY, DARRYL...WHY IS
- 00:42:35.130 --> 00:42:36.290
- FORGIVENESS SO IMPORTANT?
- 00:42:36.290 --> 00:42:38.150
- - DARRYL: WELL, I THINK
- 00:42:38.150 --> 00:42:40.160
- BECAUSE-- I UNDERSTAND IT, NOW.
- 00:42:40.160 --> 00:42:42.070
- I THINK IT'S A RELIEF FOR
- 00:42:42.070 --> 00:42:43.120
- YOURSELF.
- 00:42:43.120 --> 00:42:44.250
- 'CAUSE WE THINK WE'RE HOLDIN'
- 00:42:44.250 --> 00:42:46.150
- SOME--
- 00:42:46.150 --> 00:42:47.040
- WE'RE HOLDIN' SOMEBODY ELSE
- 00:42:47.040 --> 00:42:48.140
- HOSTAGE AND WE'RE GIVING THEM
- 00:42:48.140 --> 00:42:49.050
- SPACE IN OUR HEAD.
- 00:42:49.050 --> 00:42:50.170
- - CLIFTON: MMH!
- 00:42:50.170 --> 00:42:51.080
- [LAUGHS]
- 00:42:51.080 --> 00:42:52.190
- - JASON: THEN, EVERYONE'S IN
- 00:42:52.190 --> 00:42:53.100
- HOSTAGE.
- 00:42:53.100 --> 00:42:53.200
- EVERYONE'S HOSTAGE.
- 00:42:53.200 --> 00:42:54.060
- - DARRYL: YEAH.
- 00:42:54.060 --> 00:42:54.200
- - CLIFTON: MAKES US THE
- 00:42:54.200 --> 00:42:55.080
- HOSTAGE.
- 00:42:55.080 --> 00:42:55.230
- - DARRYL: IT MAKES US THE
- 00:42:55.230 --> 00:42:56.130
- HOSTAGE.
- 00:42:56.130 --> 00:42:56.230
- YOU KNOW, WE'RE GIVING--
- 00:42:56.230 --> 00:42:57.180
- - JASON: WE'RE THE PRISONER,
- 00:42:57.180 --> 00:42:58.090
- INSIDE.
- 00:42:58.090 --> 00:42:58.190
- BECAUSE WE'RE GIVIN' 'EM TOO
- 00:42:58.190 --> 00:42:59.200
- MUCH SPACE IN OUR HEAD, YOU
- 00:42:59.200 --> 00:43:00.170
- KNOW?
- 00:43:00.170 --> 00:43:01.020
- AND I JUST REMEMBERED, UH--
- 00:43:01.020 --> 00:43:02.280
- REMEMBERED THAT NEVER TO--
- 00:43:02.280 --> 00:43:04.120
- NEVER TO HOLD ANYONE ANYMORE.
- 00:43:04.120 --> 00:43:06.210
- IT'S JUST TO GO AHEAD AND
- 00:43:06.210 --> 00:43:08.010
- FORGIVE 'EM.
- 00:43:08.010 --> 00:43:08.180
- IT'S BETTER TO RELEASE THAT,
- 00:43:08.180 --> 00:43:09.180
- YOU KNOW.
- 00:43:09.180 --> 00:43:10.110
- - CLIFTON: YEAH.
- 00:43:10.110 --> 00:43:11.140
- - DARRYL: BECAUSE WE REALLY
- 00:43:11.140 --> 00:43:12.230
- CAN'T GET WHERE GOD WANTS US TO
- 00:43:12.230 --> 00:43:13.180
- GET.
- 00:43:13.180 --> 00:43:14.030
- I MEAN, 'CAUSE GOD IS NOT GONNA
- 00:43:14.030 --> 00:43:16.150
- USE A HEART THAT'S NOT RIGHT.
- 00:43:16.150 --> 00:43:17.150
- YOU KNOW?
- 00:43:17.150 --> 00:43:18.200
- HE'S ONLY LOOKIN' FOR THE HEART
- 00:43:18.200 --> 00:43:21.110
- THAT'S GONNA GET RIGHT.
- 00:43:21.110 --> 00:43:22.210
- A LOT OF 'EM THINK: WELL, YOU
- 00:43:22.210 --> 00:43:23.280
- KNOW, I'M GETTIN' AWAY WITH
- 00:43:23.280 --> 00:43:25.010
- SOMETHIN'.
- 00:43:25.010 --> 00:43:25.130
- YOU'RE NOT GETTIN' AWAY WITH
- 00:43:25.130 --> 00:43:26.030
- NOTHIN' WITH GOD...YOU KNOW?
- 00:43:26.030 --> 00:43:27.130
- - JASON: THAT'S RIGHT.
- 00:43:27.130 --> 00:43:28.080
- - DARRYL: 'CAUSE WHEN YOU
- 00:43:28.080 --> 00:43:28.270
- THINK ABOUT THAT WOMAN AT THE
- 00:43:28.270 --> 00:43:29.200
- WELL, SHE THOUGHT: IF GOD--
- 00:43:29.200 --> 00:43:30.210
- JESUS TOLD HER ABOUT HER FIVE
- 00:43:30.210 --> 00:43:31.190
- HUSBANDS, SAID "THE ONE YOU'RE
- 00:43:31.190 --> 00:43:33.090
- LIVING WITH NOW."
- 00:43:33.090 --> 00:43:33.240
- THERE'S NO SECRETS WITH GOD.
- 00:43:33.240 --> 00:43:34.140
- - JASON: THAT'S RIGHT.
- 00:43:34.140 --> 00:43:35.030
- - DARRYL: HE SEES IT ALL, HE
- 00:43:35.030 --> 00:43:35.240
- SEES IT ALL, YOU KNOW?
- 00:43:35.240 --> 00:43:36.260
- - CLIFTON: YEAH.
- 00:43:36.260 --> 00:43:38.010
- - DARRYL: AND SO MANY OF 'EM
- 00:43:38.010 --> 00:43:38.280
- BE THINKIN', "WE GETTIN' AWAY
- 00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:39.250
- WITH SOMETHIN'."
- 00:43:39.250 --> 00:43:40.110
- AND I REMEMBER GOD SAYIN': IF
- 00:43:40.110 --> 00:43:41.170
- YOU DON'T LEARN TO RELEASE
- 00:43:41.170 --> 00:43:43.020
- PEOPLE, YOU COULD NEVER DO WHAT
- 00:43:43.020 --> 00:43:44.260
- I'VE CALLED YOU TO DO.
- 00:43:44.260 --> 00:43:47.110
- - JASON: YEAH.
- 00:43:47.110 --> 00:43:47.270
- - DARRYL: YOU KNOW?
- 00:43:47.270 --> 00:43:49.190
- - CLIFTON: YEAH.
- 00:43:49.190 --> 00:43:50.040
- - DARRYL: IN SUCH A BIG WAY,
- 00:43:50.040 --> 00:43:50.250
- YOU KNOW, TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
- 00:43:50.250 --> 00:43:51.260
- BECAUSE, YOUR HEART IS NOT
- 00:43:51.260 --> 00:43:54.060
- RIGHT, YOU KNOW?
- 00:43:54.060 --> 00:43:55.230
- YOU GOTTA GET THAT OUTTA YOUR
- 00:43:55.230 --> 00:43:56.140
- - CLIFTON: I WAS WRONGED BY
- 00:43:58.040 --> 00:43:58.250
- SOMEBODY AND I THOUGHT: I WILL
- 00:43:58.250 --> 00:44:00.100
- NEVER FORGIVE THEM FOR WHAT
- 00:44:00.100 --> 00:44:01.020
- THEY DID.
- 00:44:01.020 --> 00:44:01.270
- - DARRYL: YEAH.
- 00:44:01.270 --> 00:44:03.050
- - CLIFTON: AND THE SPIRIT
- 00:44:03.050 --> 00:44:04.170
- MOVED ON ME,
- 00:44:04.170 --> 00:44:05.240
- LIKE HE SPOKE INTO YOUR LIFE,
- 00:44:05.240 --> 00:44:07.120
- AND TOLD ME: YOU HAVE TO
- 00:44:07.120 --> 00:44:08.170
- HAVEN'T I FORGIVEN YOU SO MUCH?
- 00:44:11.150 --> 00:44:12.140
- - DARRYL: MMH.
- 00:44:12.140 --> 00:44:13.020
- - CLIFTON: IN FACT, I'M ABOUT
- 00:44:13.020 --> 00:44:14.090
- TO FORGIVE YOU AGAIN FOR TODAY.
- 00:44:14.090 --> 00:44:15.130
- - JASON: EXACTLY.
- 00:44:15.130 --> 00:44:16.050
- [DARRYL LAUGHS]
- 00:44:16.050 --> 00:44:17.070
- - DARRYL: AMEN.
- 00:44:17.070 --> 00:44:18.000
- - CLIFTON: AND SO, I LAID IT
- 00:44:18.000 --> 00:44:20.180
- BEFORE THE LORD, AND, UH, I
- 00:44:20.180 --> 00:44:22.080
- FORGAVE THAT PERSON.
- 00:44:22.080 --> 00:44:24.210
- AND I FEEL BETTER, YOU KNOW?
- 00:44:24.210 --> 00:44:26.240
- I LOOK YOUNGER.
- 00:44:26.240 --> 00:44:27.080
- YOU KNOW?
- 00:44:27.080 --> 00:44:28.240
- I'M HEALTHIER.
- 00:44:28.240 --> 00:44:30.010
- - DARRYL: RIGHT.
- 00:44:30.010 --> 00:44:31.090
- - CLIFTON: YOU KNOW, YOU'RE
- 00:44:31.090 --> 00:44:32.140
- JUST-- YOUR GENERAL HEALTH IS
- 00:44:32.140 --> 00:44:33.150
- BETTER WHEN YOU FORGIVE PEOPLE.
- 00:44:33.150 --> 00:44:34.250
- SOMEBODY SAY AMEN.
- 00:44:34.250 --> 00:44:35.120
- - JASON: AMEN.
- 00:44:35.120 --> 00:44:36.030
- - DARRYL: AMEN.
- 00:44:36.030 --> 00:44:37.180
- - CLIFTON: DO YOU AGREE WITH
- 00:44:37.180 --> 00:44:38.090
- THAT, JASON?
- 00:44:38.090 --> 00:44:39.010
- - JASON: I DO.
- 00:44:39.010 --> 00:44:39.150
- AND I ALSO REALIZE, TOO, WHEN
- 00:44:39.150 --> 00:44:40.260
- WE FORGIVE-- I WANT PEOPLE TO--
- 00:44:40.260 --> 00:44:42.160
- 'CAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE COME UP
- 00:44:42.160 --> 00:44:44.230
- TO ME AND SAY, "WHEN I FORGAVE,
- 00:44:44.230 --> 00:44:46.120
- IT'S LIKE I'M LETTING THEM OFF
- 00:44:46.120 --> 00:44:47.030
- THE HOOK."
- 00:44:47.030 --> 00:44:47.140
- YOU'RE NOT LETTING THE PERSON
- 00:44:47.140 --> 00:44:48.120
- WHO YOU FORGIVE-- WHO DID THE
- 00:44:48.120 --> 00:44:50.170
- DAMAGE OFF THE HOOK...WHEN WE
- 00:44:50.170 --> 00:44:51.280
- FORGIVE.
- 00:44:51.280 --> 00:44:52.110
- I'LL GO BACK TO WHAT DARRYL
- 00:44:52.110 --> 00:44:53.050
- SAID: IT'S ABOUT US.
- 00:44:53.050 --> 00:44:54.110
- IT'S ABOUT US BEING FREE.
- 00:44:54.110 --> 00:44:55.240
- THERE'S A GREAT QUOTE THAT SAYS
- 00:44:55.240 --> 00:44:57.090
- TO FORGIVE IS TO SET A PRISONER
- 00:44:57.090 --> 00:44:58.220
- FREE AND DISCOVER THE
- 00:44:58.220 --> 00:45:00.030
- PRISONER...IS ME.
- 00:45:00.030 --> 00:45:01.150
- [DARRYL LAUGHS]
- 00:45:01.150 --> 00:45:03.210
- - CLIFTON: HAHA!
- 00:45:03.210 --> 00:45:04.110
- YOU BETTER SAY IT.
- 00:45:04.110 --> 00:45:04.260
- [APPLAUSE]
- 00:45:04.260 --> 00:45:05.070
- - JASON: THAT'S IT.
- 00:45:05.070 --> 00:45:05.230
- - DARRYL: YEAH.
- 00:45:05.230 --> 00:45:06.070
- [APPLAUSE]
- 00:45:06.070 --> 00:45:07.010
- [CLIFTON LAUGHS]
- 00:45:07.010 --> 00:45:07.180
- - CLIFTON: THAT WAS GOOD, MAN.
- 00:45:07.180 --> 00:45:08.260
- - DARRYL: THAT'S GOOD.
- 00:45:08.260 --> 00:45:09.140
- IT'S GOOD!
- 00:45:09.140 --> 00:45:09.290
- IT'S GOOD!
- 00:45:09.290 --> 00:45:10.100
- [APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
- 00:45:10.100 --> 00:45:10.290
- - JASON: IT'S NOT ABOUT BEING
- 00:45:10.290 --> 00:45:11.200
- A PRISONER.
- 00:45:11.200 --> 00:45:12.030
- - CLIFTON: TO FORGIVE IS TO
- 00:45:12.030 --> 00:45:12.230
- SET A PRISONER FREE...
- 00:45:12.230 --> 00:45:13.100
- AND THE PRISONER IS ME.
- 00:45:13.100 --> 00:45:13.280
- OHHHH, YEAH.
- 00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:16.050
- I'M NOT GONNA FORGET THAT ONE.
- 00:45:16.050 --> 00:45:17.150
- - JASON: YOU OUGHT TO STEAL
- 00:45:17.150 --> 00:45:18.050
- THAT ONE.
- 00:45:18.050 --> 00:45:18.160
- - CLIFTON: YEAH.
- 00:45:18.160 --> 00:45:19.080
- [LAUGHTER]
- 00:45:19.080 --> 00:45:19.270
- SEE, THE ACTOR IN ME IS
- 00:45:19.270 --> 00:45:20.150
- REMEMBERING THE LINE.
- 00:45:20.150 --> 00:45:21.190
- - DARRYL: I KNOW.
- 00:45:21.190 --> 00:45:22.040
- [LAUGHTER]
- 00:45:22.040 --> 00:45:22.260
- THAT'S GOOD.
- 00:45:22.260 --> 00:45:23.090
- IT'S A GOOD MEMORY.
- 00:45:23.090 --> 00:45:24.080
- - JASON: THAT'S GOOD.
- 00:45:24.080 --> 00:45:24.250
- - CLIFTON: AH...IT'S A
- 00:45:24.250 --> 00:45:25.130
- WONDERFUL THING.
- 00:45:25.130 --> 00:45:26.140
- WELL, NOW, AH...WE TALKED ABOUT
- 00:45:26.140 --> 00:45:28.000
- HOW IT BRINGS HEALING INTO YOUR
- 00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:29.140
- LIFE, BUT, AH, HOW DO WE
- 00:45:29.140 --> 00:45:30.220
- OVERCOME THE BITTERNESS.
- 00:45:30.220 --> 00:45:33.070
- - JASON: MMH...
- 00:45:33.070 --> 00:45:34.080
- - CLIFTON: YOU KNOW, WE GET
- 00:45:34.080 --> 00:45:35.020
- INTO THE...INTO THE WEEDS HERE
- 00:45:35.020 --> 00:45:36.100
- A LITTLE BIT.
- 00:45:36.100 --> 00:45:36.270
- BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SO
- 00:45:36.270 --> 00:45:38.180
- BITTER, THEY MAY IN POINT-- IN
- 00:45:38.200 --> 00:45:41.200
- PRINCIPLE FORGIVE SOMEONE, BUT
- 00:45:41.200 --> 00:45:44.030
- THEY CAN'T SEEM TO LET GO OF
- 00:45:44.030 --> 00:45:47.000
- THAT BITTERNESS WITHIN THEM.
- 00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:47.260
- - DARRYL: WELL--
- 00:45:47.260 --> 00:45:49.000
- - CLIFTON: IT'S BEYOND...IT'S
- 00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:50.130
- BEYOND THE PERSON WHO WRONGED
- 00:45:50.130 --> 00:45:52.040
- THEM.
- 00:45:52.040 --> 00:45:53.030
- - JASON: YEAH.
- 00:45:53.030 --> 00:45:54.100
- - CLIFTON: IT'S NOW A DISEASE
- 00:45:54.100 --> 00:45:55.190
- INSIDE OF THEM.
- 00:45:55.190 --> 00:45:56.240
- - DARRYL: YEAH.
- 00:45:56.240 --> 00:45:57.260
- - CLIFTON: HOW DO THEY DEAL
- 00:45:57.260 --> 00:45:58.160
- WITH THAT?
- 00:45:58.160 --> 00:45:59.060
- - DARRYL: BUT YOU GOTTA-- WE
- 00:45:59.060 --> 00:46:00.070
- GOTTA ALWAYS REMEMBER, YOU
- 00:46:00.070 --> 00:46:01.140
- KNOW...JESUS CAME HERE FOR THE
- 00:46:01.140 --> 00:46:03.190
- SICK.
- 00:46:03.190 --> 00:46:04.160
- AND WE ALL SICK.
- 00:46:04.160 --> 00:46:06.290
- YOU KNOW?
- 00:46:06.290 --> 00:46:08.020
- AND IF WE CAN ADMIT TO THAT --
- 00:46:08.020 --> 00:46:09.160
- BEING SICK INSIDE AND NEED TO
- 00:46:09.160 --> 00:46:11.030
- BE HEALED -- UH, THEN WE'RE
- 00:46:11.030 --> 00:46:13.010
- ABLE TO GET HEALED, THEN YOU'RE
- 00:46:13.010 --> 00:46:14.230
- ABLE TO GET A REAL HEALING.
- 00:46:14.230 --> 00:46:15.130
- 'CAUSE, I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT
- 00:46:15.130 --> 00:46:16.240
- OF...THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE
- 00:46:16.240 --> 00:46:18.120
- THAT I DIDN'T WANNA FORGIVE,
- 00:46:18.120 --> 00:46:20.080
- YOU KNOW?
- 00:46:20.080 --> 00:46:21.050
- THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT
- 00:46:21.050 --> 00:46:22.090
- HAPPENED IN MY CAREER,
- 00:46:22.090 --> 00:46:22.270
- BASEBALL, PEOPLE HAD DONE
- 00:46:22.270 --> 00:46:24.070
- ME WRONG, AGENTS...STOLE
- 00:46:24.070 --> 00:46:25.240
- MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, AND...AND
- 00:46:25.240 --> 00:46:27.000
- THE LORD SPOKE TO ME CLEAR ONE
- 00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:27.260
- DAY.
- 00:46:27.260 --> 00:46:28.120
- HE SAYS: IF YOU EVER WANNA...BE
- 00:46:28.120 --> 00:46:30.020
- ON THE PLATFORM FOR ME, YOU'RE
- 00:46:30.110 --> 00:46:33.110
- GONNA HAVE TO...GET RID OF ALL
- 00:46:33.110 --> 00:46:34.280
- THAT BITTERNESS AND
- 00:46:34.280 --> 00:46:35.250
- THAT...HATRED THAT YOU HAVE IN
- 00:46:36.050 --> 00:46:39.050
- YOUR HEART.
- 00:46:39.050 --> 00:46:39.280
- - CLIFTON: MM-HMM.
- 00:46:39.280 --> 00:46:40.180
- - JASON: YEAH.
- 00:46:40.180 --> 00:46:41.290
- - DARRYL: AND...AND THAT TAKES
- 00:46:41.290 --> 00:46:42.210
- TIME, THROUGH THE WORD OF
- 00:46:42.210 --> 00:46:44.010
- GOD -- STUDYING THE WORD OF
- 00:46:44.010 --> 00:46:45.270
- GOD...YOU KNOW?
- 00:46:45.270 --> 00:46:47.040
- AND I THINK THAT IF YOU STUDY
- 00:46:47.040 --> 00:46:49.030
- THE WORD OF GOD, IT COMES ALIVE
- 00:46:49.030 --> 00:46:50.130
- TO YOU AND IT TEACHES YOU
- 00:46:50.130 --> 00:46:52.180
- EVERYTHING ABOUT YOU.
- 00:46:52.180 --> 00:46:55.170
- AND, THAT'S WHAT THAT
- 00:46:55.170 --> 00:46:56.040
- EPHESIANS 3:20 TALKS ABOUT.
- 00:46:56.040 --> 00:46:57.010
- "NOW, UNTO HIM WHO IS ABLE TO
- 00:46:57.010 --> 00:46:58.190
- DO EXCEEDINGLY..."
- 00:46:58.190 --> 00:47:01.160
- - JASON: AND ABUNDANTLY, YEAH.
- 00:47:01.160 --> 00:47:04.010
- - DARRYL: YOU KNOW?
- 00:47:04.010 --> 00:47:05.000
- "...AND ABUNDANTLY MORE."
- 00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:05.190
- YOU KNOW?
- 00:47:05.190 --> 00:47:06.020
- SEE, IT'S-- BUT, SEE,
- 00:47:06.020 --> 00:47:07.120
- 'CAUSE...IF YOU GET RID OF THE
- 00:47:07.120 --> 00:47:09.130
- BITTERNESS AND WHATEVER YOU GOT
- 00:47:09.130 --> 00:47:11.010
- INSIDE OF YOU, GOD'S GONNA DO
- 00:47:11.010 --> 00:47:12.210
- HIS EXCEEDINGLY INSIDE OF YOU
- 00:47:12.210 --> 00:47:15.180
- THAT NO MAN COULD EVER SAY HE
- 00:47:15.180 --> 00:47:17.050
- GAVE TO YOU.
- 00:47:17.050 --> 00:47:18.170
- - CLIFTON: MMH-MMH-MMH.
- 00:47:18.170 --> 00:47:19.050
- [APPLAUSE]
- 00:47:19.050 --> 00:47:20.020
- - DARRYL: AND YOU-- AND YOU
- 00:47:20.020 --> 00:47:20.280
- DON'T HAVE TO BE BITTER WITH
- 00:47:20.280 --> 00:47:21.180
- 'EM.
- 00:47:21.180 --> 00:47:23.050
- I MEAN -- HEY, WHAT'D HE SAY?
- 00:47:23.050 --> 00:47:23.260
- HE WILL PREPARE A TABLE...
- 00:47:23.290 --> 00:47:26.290
- - CLIFTON: ...BEFORE YOU, IN
- 00:47:26.290 --> 00:47:28.220
- THE PRESENCE OF YOUR ENEMIES.
- 00:47:28.220 --> 00:47:30.190
- - DARRYL: ...BEFORE YOU, IN
- 00:47:30.190 --> 00:47:31.170
- THE PRESENCE OF YOUR ENEMIES.
- 00:47:31.170 --> 00:47:33.120
- HE HAS PREPARED A TABLE IN
- 00:47:33.120 --> 00:47:34.290
- FRONT OF ALL THOSE THAT WAS
- 00:47:34.290 --> 00:47:36.090
- LAUGHIN' ABOUT ME AND THOUGHT I
- 00:47:36.090 --> 00:47:37.250
- WAS DONE AND DID ME WRONG.
- 00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:40.280
- AND ONCE I GOT THAT BITTERNESS
- 00:47:40.280 --> 00:47:41.240
- OUTSIDE OF ME AND WALKED AWAY
- 00:47:41.240 --> 00:47:43.120
- FROM IT, AND GAVE IT BACK, AND
- 00:47:43.120 --> 00:47:45.130
- LAID IT DOWN...
- 00:47:45.130 --> 00:47:47.290
- THEY TALK ABOUT GO TO THE
- 00:47:47.290 --> 00:47:48.180
- ALTAR.
- 00:47:48.180 --> 00:47:49.010
- SOME OF YOU NEED
- 00:47:49.010 --> 00:47:49.150
- TO GO TO THE ALTAR AND
- 00:47:49.150 --> 00:47:50.060
- LAY YOUR BURDENS DOWN?
- 00:47:50.060 --> 00:47:51.030
- AND YOU NEED TO REALLY LAY 'EM
- 00:47:51.030 --> 00:47:52.000
- DOWN.
- 00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:52.180
- YOU CAN'T KEEP PICKIN' 'EM BACK
- 00:47:52.180 --> 00:47:53.290
- UP, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE YOU'RE
- 00:47:53.290 --> 00:47:55.040
- NEVER GOING TO GET ANYWHERE
- 00:47:55.040 --> 00:47:57.200
- WITH GOD IF YOU KEEP PICKIN'
- 00:47:57.200 --> 00:47:58.100
- THOSE BURDENS BACK UP.
- 00:47:58.100 --> 00:47:59.110
- YOU NEED TO THAT ALTAR AND LAY
- 00:47:59.110 --> 00:48:00.040
- 'EM DOWN.
- 00:48:00.040 --> 00:48:00.150
- 'CAUSE, SEE, HE-- WHATEVER--
- 00:48:00.150 --> 00:48:02.120
- WHATEVER'S KILLIN' US, JESUS
- 00:48:02.120 --> 00:48:03.200
- ALREADY KILLED IT.
- 00:48:03.200 --> 00:48:04.250
- SO MANY OF 'EM STAND STUCK IN
- 00:48:04.250 --> 00:48:07.000
- THAT PLACE INSIDE BECAUSE WE
- 00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:09.080
- JUST WON'T LAY IT DOWN.
- 00:48:09.080 --> 00:48:11.250
- WE WON'T LAY IT DOWN AT THE
- 00:48:11.250 --> 00:48:12.190
- ALTAR.
- 00:48:12.190 --> 00:48:13.160
- SEE, I REALLY DON'T HAVE A LOT
- 00:48:13.160 --> 00:48:14.250
- OF TIME FOR FOOLISHNESS NO
- 00:48:14.250 --> 00:48:15.140
- MORE.
- 00:48:15.140 --> 00:48:16.010
- BECAUSE I LIVED IN FOOLISHNESS
- 00:48:16.010 --> 00:48:17.170
- PLAYIN' BASEBALL FOR 17 YEARS,
- 00:48:17.170 --> 00:48:18.270
- AND WINNIN' CHAMPIONSHIPS, AND
- 00:48:18.270 --> 00:48:20.070
- LIVIN' A LIFE THAT WAS A LIE.
- 00:48:20.070 --> 00:48:22.020
- I REALLY DON'T HAVE TIME.
- 00:48:22.020 --> 00:48:23.110
- IT'S SUCH AN URGENCY WITH GOD,
- 00:48:23.110 --> 00:48:24.160
- NOW.
- 00:48:24.160 --> 00:48:25.010
- IF YOU'RE NOT IN HIS PLAN, THEN
- 00:48:25.010 --> 00:48:26.090
- I DON'T KNOW WHAT PLAN YOU'RE
- 00:48:26.090 --> 00:48:27.000
- IN...YOU KNOW?
- 00:48:27.000 --> 00:48:28.100
- YOU KNOW, IT'S NO OTHER PLAN
- 00:48:28.100 --> 00:48:29.250
- THAT'S-- JESUS HAS GOT THE
- 00:48:29.250 --> 00:48:31.030
- GREATEST PLAN FOR ALL OUR
- 00:48:31.030 --> 00:48:31.270
- LIVES.
- 00:48:31.270 --> 00:48:33.270
- IT'S JUST UP TO US AS PEOPLE.
- 00:48:33.270 --> 00:48:35.020
- YOU KNOW, HE'S TELLIN' THE
- 00:48:35.020 --> 00:48:36.160
- PEOPLE: COME, STOP, TURN.
- 00:48:36.160 --> 00:48:37.260
- DON'T WORRY ABOUT WHAT ANYBODY
- 00:48:37.260 --> 00:48:39.020
- ELSE IS SAYIN' ABOUT YOU.
- 00:48:39.020 --> 00:48:40.020
- LET THEM GO.
- 00:48:40.020 --> 00:48:40.270
- LET THEM BE FREE SO YOU CAN BE
- 00:48:40.270 --> 00:48:42.150
- FREE SO I CAN USE THAT VESSEL.
- 00:48:42.150 --> 00:48:44.040
- - CLIFTON: YEAH.
- 00:48:44.040 --> 00:48:45.090
- - DARRYL: SEE, 'CAUSE THAT'S A
- 00:48:45.090 --> 00:48:46.010
- VESSEL HE WANTS TO USE.
- 00:48:46.010 --> 00:48:47.110
- BUT HE CAN ONLY USE THAT VESSEL
- 00:48:47.110 --> 00:48:49.030
- IF THAT VESSEL'S BEEN CLEANED
- 00:48:49.030 --> 00:48:50.120
- OUT, YOUR PERSON CLEANSED OUT.
- 00:48:50.220 --> 00:48:53.220
- YOU KNOW?
- 00:48:53.220 --> 00:48:54.090
- - CLIFTON: YES.
- 00:48:54.090 --> 00:48:54.250
- - DARRYL: AND SO, BITTERNESS
- 00:48:54.250 --> 00:48:55.160
- IS NO LONGER-- SHOULD BE NO
- 00:48:55.160 --> 00:48:56.060
- LONGER PART OF YOUR WALK.
- 00:48:56.060 --> 00:48:57.200
- JUST LIKE THE FORGIVENESS PART,
- 00:48:57.200 --> 00:48:58.230
- YOU'VE GOTTA GET RID OF IT TO
- 00:48:58.230 --> 00:49:01.000
- BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT VESSEL TO
- 00:49:01.000 --> 00:49:02.230
- BE CLEAN SO HE CAN POUR HIS
- 00:49:02.230 --> 00:49:05.020
- SPIRIT INTO YOU, SO IT CAN
- 00:49:05.020 --> 00:49:05.210
- DWELL IN YOU AND YOU CAN GO OUT
- 00:49:05.210 --> 00:49:07.100
- AND YOU CAN WIN THE LOST.
- 00:49:07.100 --> 00:49:10.100
- - JASON: THAT'S IT.
- 00:49:10.100 --> 00:49:10.260
- - CLIFTON: PRAISE GOD...PRAISE
- 00:49:10.260 --> 00:49:11.180
- GOD.
- 00:49:11.180 --> 00:49:13.260
- TALK ABOUT YOUR MINISTRY.
- 00:49:13.260 --> 00:49:14.150
- HOW IS IT GOING AND WHERE DO
- 00:49:14.150 --> 00:49:16.070
- YOU SEE IT GOING IN THE FUTURE?
- 00:49:16.070 --> 00:49:17.160
- - DARRYL: WELL, IT'S
- 00:49:17.160 --> 00:49:18.140
- INCREDIBLE.
- 00:49:18.140 --> 00:49:18.280
- THE LORD HAS DONE SOME
- 00:49:18.280 --> 00:49:20.030
- INCREDIBLE THINGS.
- 00:49:20.030 --> 00:49:22.160
- HE'S SENT ME ALL OVER THE
- 00:49:22.160 --> 00:49:23.050
- PLACE.
- 00:49:23.050 --> 00:49:23.240
- I TRAVEL AND I DO MEN'S
- 00:49:23.240 --> 00:49:25.080
- MINISTRY, PREACHIN'
- 00:49:25.080 --> 00:49:27.020
- IN FRONT OF THOUSANDS, NOW --
- 00:49:27.020 --> 00:49:28.290
- NOT QUALIFIED, 'CAUSE I DON'T
- 00:49:28.290 --> 00:49:30.150
- HAVE TO BE QUALIFIED 'CAUSE HE
- 00:49:30.150 --> 00:49:31.070
- QUALIFIES THE CALL.
- 00:49:31.070 --> 00:49:32.120
- - JASON: THAT'S IT.
- 00:49:32.120 --> 00:49:33.140
- - DARRYL: YOU KNOW?
- 00:49:33.140 --> 00:49:36.050
- THAT'S WHAT THAT 1 JOHN 4:4
- 00:49:36.050 --> 00:49:37.120
- TALKS ABOUT: "...GREATER IS HE
- 00:49:37.120 --> 00:49:39.200
- THAT'S IN ME THAN HE THAT'S IN
- 00:49:39.200 --> 00:49:40.120
- THE WORLD."
- 00:49:40.120 --> 00:49:41.040
- IT'S POWER IN THE SCRIPTURES
- 00:49:41.040 --> 00:49:42.070
- AND I THINK WE DON'T USE IT
- 00:49:42.070 --> 00:49:43.270
- ENOUGH FOR THE MINISTRY SO GOD
- 00:49:43.270 --> 00:49:45.200
- CAN DO WHAT HE NEEDS TO DO.
- 00:49:45.200 --> 00:49:47.010
- WE'RE TRYIN' TO BRAND OURSELF
- 00:49:47.010 --> 00:49:48.280
- AND MAKE OURSELF A BRAND.
- 00:49:48.280 --> 00:49:51.000
- BUT JESUS IS THE BRAND.
- 00:49:51.000 --> 00:49:52.100
- SEE, MY MINISTRY-- MY MINISTRY
- 00:49:52.100 --> 00:49:53.290
- IS NOT ABOUT ME; MY MINISTRY'S
- 00:49:53.290 --> 00:49:55.030
- ABOUT JESUS.
- 00:49:55.030 --> 00:49:55.180
- - CLIFTON: YEAH, YEAH.
- 00:49:55.180 --> 00:49:56.100
- - DARRYL: SEE, I DON'T BRAND
- 00:49:56.100 --> 00:49:57.090
- DARRYL STRAWBERRY.
- 00:49:57.090 --> 00:49:58.080
- WHO IS THAT?
- 00:49:58.080 --> 00:49:58.260
- HE WAS A OL' BROKEN SOUL, OL'
- 00:49:58.260 --> 00:50:00.180
- SINNER, OL' HEATHEN THAT WAS
- 00:50:00.180 --> 00:50:02.080
- LOST, THAT WAS REJECTED, THAT
- 00:50:02.080 --> 00:50:03.280
- WAS REDEEMED BY THE BLOOD OF
- 00:50:03.280 --> 00:50:05.140
- THE LAMB.
- 00:50:05.140 --> 00:50:06.000
- - CLIFTON: HELLO!
- 00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:06.250
- [APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
- 00:50:06.250 --> 00:50:07.290
- YES, SIR!
- 00:50:07.290 --> 00:50:08.140
- YES, SIR!
- 00:50:08.140 --> 00:50:09.050
- - DARRYL: THAT'S WHERE THE
- 00:50:09.050 --> 00:50:09.250
- POWER IS.
- 00:50:09.250 --> 00:50:10.200
- [APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
- 00:50:10.200 --> 00:50:11.270
- - JASON: THAT'S IT.
- 00:50:11.270 --> 00:50:13.270
- [APPLAUSE]
- 00:50:13.270 --> 00:50:15.120
- - DARRYL: IT'S REALLY NOT
- 00:50:15.120 --> 00:50:17.210
- ABOUT MY MINISTRY;
- 00:50:17.210 --> 00:50:18.070
- IT'S JESUS' MINISTRY.
- 00:50:18.070 --> 00:50:18.270
- YOU KNOW?
- 00:50:18.270 --> 00:50:19.270
- AND I WANNA KEEP IT THAT WAY.
- 00:50:19.270 --> 00:50:21.020
- - CLIFTON: THAT'S WONDERFUL.
- 00:50:21.020 --> 00:50:23.030
- JASON--
- 00:50:23.030 --> 00:50:23.210
- - JASON: I CAN ATTEST.
- 00:50:23.210 --> 00:50:24.090
- I MEAN, I WAS AT A CONFERENCE
- 00:50:24.090 --> 00:50:25.210
- WITH HIM IN WISCONSIN A COUPLE
- 00:50:25.210 --> 00:50:26.140
- MONTHS AGO, CAME OUT AND SAW
- 00:50:26.140 --> 00:50:27.250
- HIM A COUPLE YEARS AGO UP IN
- 00:50:27.250 --> 00:50:29.180
- CONNECTICUT WHERE I LIVE.
- 00:50:29.180 --> 00:50:30.250
- THIS GUY'S PREACHING JESUS.
- 00:50:30.250 --> 00:50:32.050
- HE'S NOT TALKING ABOUT
- 00:50:32.050 --> 00:50:33.150
- BASEBALL.
- 00:50:33.150 --> 00:50:35.050
- IN FACT, THE FIRST CONVERSATION
- 00:50:35.050 --> 00:50:36.080
- I EVER HAD WITH HIM WAS ABOUT
- 00:50:36.080 --> 00:50:36.290
- JESUS.
- 00:50:36.290 --> 00:50:37.270
- I'M LIKE, "I WANNA TALK ABOUT
- 00:50:37.270 --> 00:50:38.180
- THE 1986 METS."
- 00:50:38.180 --> 00:50:39.250
- [LAUGHTER]
- 00:50:39.250 --> 00:50:41.200
- HE'S LIKE, "NO, WE'RE GONNA
- 00:50:41.200 --> 00:50:42.160
- TALK ABOUT JESUS."
- 00:50:42.160 --> 00:50:43.020
- I SAID: "OKAY!
- 00:50:43.020 --> 00:50:43.150
- LET'S TALK ABOUT JESUS."
- 00:50:43.150 --> 00:50:44.290
- [CLIFTON LAUGHS]
- 00:50:44.290 --> 00:50:45.160
- SO, I CAN ATTEST.
- 00:50:45.160 --> 00:50:46.050
- [DARRYL LAUGHS]
- 00:50:46.050 --> 00:50:47.020
- THIS GUY'S DOIN' GREAT THINGS
- 00:50:47.020 --> 00:50:48.070
- FOR THE LORD.
- 00:50:48.070 --> 00:50:49.100
- - CLIFTON: THAT'S WONDERFUL.
- 00:50:49.100 --> 00:50:50.010
- HOW DOES FAITH COME INTO PLAY
- 00:50:50.010 --> 00:50:51.290
- IN YOUR LIFE, DEALING WITH
- 00:50:51.290 --> 00:50:53.080
- ANGER AND RESENTMENT, SO THAT
- 00:50:53.080 --> 00:50:56.000
- YOU CAN ARRIVE AT A PLACE OF
- 00:50:56.000 --> 00:50:57.280
- FORGIVENESS?
- 00:50:57.280 --> 00:50:58.260
- - JASON: IT'S-IT'S EVERYTHING.
- 00:50:58.260 --> 00:51:01.010
- I MEAN, WHEN CHRIST CAME INTO
- 00:51:01.010 --> 00:51:02.150
- MY LIFE, YOU KNOW, FROM THE
- 00:51:02.150 --> 00:51:04.040
- YOU KNOW, I HAD A GOOD JOB, WE
- 00:51:07.080 --> 00:51:09.020
- HAD JUST BOUGHT OUR FIRST
- 00:51:09.020 --> 00:51:09.210
- HOUSE, GOT MARRIED TO A
- 00:51:09.210 --> 00:51:11.030
- BEAUTIFUL WOMAN -- EVERYTHING'S
- 00:51:11.030 --> 00:51:11.250
- GREAT!
- 00:51:11.250 --> 00:51:13.070
- BUT I REALIZED INSIDE: I GOT A
- 00:51:13.070 --> 00:51:14.220
- LOTTA WORK TO DO.
- 00:51:14.220 --> 00:51:15.140
- - DARRYL: RIGHT.
- 00:51:15.140 --> 00:51:16.240
- - JASON: AND I NEEDED SOMETHIN'
- 00:51:16.240 --> 00:51:18.160
- TO COME IN.
- 00:51:18.160 --> 00:51:19.090
- AND IT WAS AN EMPTINESS IN
- 00:51:19.090 --> 00:51:19.280
- THERE.
- 00:51:19.280 --> 00:51:21.070
- AND, CHRIST CAME AND IT WAS A
- 00:51:21.070 --> 00:51:21.280
- PROCESS.
- 00:51:21.280 --> 00:51:22.110
- IT WASN'T THIS INSTANTANEOUS
- 00:51:25.080 --> 00:51:25.280
- JUST, YOU KNOW, MOMENT.
- 00:51:25.280 --> 00:51:26.250
- AND IT'S BEEN A PROCESS.
- 00:51:26.250 --> 00:51:28.090
- IT'S BEEN 18 YEARS, NOW, AND
- 00:51:28.090 --> 00:51:29.120
- IT'S BEEN A WALK, A JOURNEY
- 00:51:29.120 --> 00:51:30.190
- WITH THE LORD.
- 00:51:30.190 --> 00:51:32.070
- UH, BUT FAITH PLAYS A ROLE IN
- 00:51:32.070 --> 00:51:33.250
- EVERY ASPECT OF MY LIFE.
- 00:51:33.250 --> 00:51:36.080
- I ALWAYS SAY, YOU KNOW, I DON'T
- 00:51:36.080 --> 00:51:37.190
- WANT JESUS JUST TO BE A PIECE
- 00:51:37.190 --> 00:51:39.050
- OF MY LIFE; I WANT HIM TO BE
- 00:51:39.050 --> 00:51:40.060
- THE CENTERPIECE OF ALL THAT I
- 00:51:40.060 --> 00:51:43.050
- HAVE IN MY LIFE.
- 00:51:43.050 --> 00:51:43.220
- - CLIFTON: MMH...
- 00:51:43.220 --> 00:51:44.120
- [APPLAUSE]
- 00:51:44.120 --> 00:51:45.010
- - JASON: I REALLY DO.
- 00:51:45.010 --> 00:51:45.180
- - CLIFTON: YEAH.
- 00:51:45.180 --> 00:51:46.110
- - DARRYL: YEAH, YEAH.
- 00:51:46.110 --> 00:51:47.040
- - JASON: AND...
- 00:51:47.040 --> 00:51:47.230
- - DARRYL: GOOD.
- 00:51:47.230 --> 00:51:48.160
- [JASON LAUGHS]
- 00:51:48.160 --> 00:51:49.000
- - JASON: THAT'S IT.
- 00:51:49.000 --> 00:51:49.210
- [APPLAUSE]
- 00:51:49.210 --> 00:51:50.070
- AND SO, FAITH PLAYS A ROLE IN
- 00:51:50.070 --> 00:51:51.140
- ALL OF THAT -- AND ESPECIALLY
- 00:51:51.140 --> 00:51:52.200
- MOVING FORWARD IN FORGIVENESS.
- 00:51:52.200 --> 00:51:54.080
- YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS ANOTHER
- 00:51:54.080 --> 00:51:55.230
- THING THAT REALLY STOOD OUT TO
- 00:51:55.230 --> 00:51:56.230
- ME AS I WALKED THROUGH THIS
- 00:51:56.230 --> 00:51:58.100
- PROCESS OF FORGIVENESS WAS THIS
- 00:51:58.100 --> 00:52:00.020
- WORD "EMPATHY"...
- 00:52:00.020 --> 00:52:01.100
- - CLIFTON: MMH.
- 00:52:01.100 --> 00:52:01.240
- - JASON: ...WHICH WE DON'T
- 00:52:01.240 --> 00:52:02.140
- TEND TO HAVE A LOT OF IN
- 00:52:02.140 --> 00:52:03.020
- SOCIETY TODAY...
- 00:52:03.020 --> 00:52:03.200
- - DARRYL: RIGHT.
- 00:52:03.200 --> 00:52:05.020
- - JASON: ...MUCH LESS--
- 00:52:05.020 --> 00:52:05.200
- ESPECIALLY IN SOCIAL-MEDIA
- 00:52:05.200 --> 00:52:06.180
- WORLD THAT WE LIVE IN.
- 00:52:06.180 --> 00:52:07.070
- BUT, THIS EMPATHY -- IF WE
- 00:52:07.070 --> 00:52:08.230
- COULD START TO SEE THINGS FROM
- 00:52:08.230 --> 00:52:10.060
- THE OTHER PERSON'S POINT OF
- 00:52:10.060 --> 00:52:11.200
- VIEW, WHICH WAS SO HARD WHEN MY
- 00:52:11.200 --> 00:52:13.130
- DAD WAS HURTING ME, TO SEE IT
- 00:52:13.130 --> 00:52:15.070
- FROM HIS POINT OF VIEW.
- 00:52:15.070 --> 00:52:16.130
- AND AS I LOOKED BACK NOW AND I
- 00:52:16.130 --> 00:52:17.250
- SAW IT FROM HIS POINT OF VIEW,
- 00:52:17.250 --> 00:52:19.160
- HE WASN'T EXACTLY HAPPY OF THE
- 00:52:19.160 --> 00:52:21.130
- SITUATION HE WAS IN, EITHER.
- 00:52:21.130 --> 00:52:22.090
- - DARRYL: MM-HMM.
- 00:52:22.090 --> 00:52:23.040
- - CLIFTON: HMH.
- 00:52:23.040 --> 00:52:23.200
- - JASON: AND SO, THAT REALLY
- 00:52:23.200 --> 00:52:24.190
- HELPED ME INTO A PLACE FOR
- 00:52:24.190 --> 00:52:26.140
- FORGIVENESS WAS HAVING EMPATHY
- 00:52:26.140 --> 00:52:28.000
- FOR, REALLY, THE FIRST TIME IN
- 00:52:28.000 --> 00:52:28.210
- MY LIFE, FOR MY DAD, AT 40
- 00:52:28.210 --> 00:52:29.110
- YEARS OLD.
- 00:52:29.110 --> 00:52:30.090
- - CLIFTON: MMH.
- 00:52:30.090 --> 00:52:31.020
- - JASON: SO, I-- I ENCOURAGE
- 00:52:31.020 --> 00:52:31.290
- ANYONE'S WHO'S STRUGGLING WITH
- 00:52:31.290 --> 00:52:32.290
- FORGIVENESS TO REALLY--
- 00:52:32.290 --> 00:52:35.220
- IT DOESN'T MEAN -- AGAIN -- THAT
- 00:52:35.220 --> 00:52:36.140
- YOU'RE LETTING THEM OFF THE
- 00:52:36.140 --> 00:52:37.040
- HOOK.
- 00:52:37.040 --> 00:52:37.130
- BUT I THINK HAVING AN
- 00:52:37.130 --> 00:52:38.000
- EMPATHETIC HEART...
- 00:52:38.000 --> 00:52:39.120
- 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT JESUS DOES.
- 00:52:39.120 --> 00:52:40.040
- HE'S THE ONE THAT'LL TAKE A
- 00:52:40.040 --> 00:52:41.240
- PICTURE WITH US ON OUR
- 00:52:41.240 --> 00:52:42.120
- WORST DAY.
- 00:52:42.120 --> 00:52:42.230
- - DARRYL: MM-HMM.
- 00:52:42.230 --> 00:52:43.090
- - JASON: RIGHT?
- 00:52:43.090 --> 00:52:43.230
- - DARRYL: AMEN.
- 00:52:43.230 --> 00:52:44.070
- THAT'S RIGHT.
- 00:52:44.070 --> 00:52:44.200
- - JASON: HE'S THE ONLY ONE!
- 00:52:44.200 --> 00:52:45.260
- AND SO, WE HAVE TO BEGIN TO
- 00:52:45.260 --> 00:52:46.240
- HAVE AT LEAST A LITTLE BIT OF
- 00:52:46.240 --> 00:52:47.230
- EMPATHY IN OUR LIVES AS WE LOOK
- 00:52:47.230 --> 00:52:49.130
- AT PEOPLE WHO'VE HURT US.
- 00:52:49.130 --> 00:52:50.140
- - CLIFTON: MMH...
- 00:52:50.140 --> 00:52:51.000
- - JASON: SO...
- 00:52:51.000 --> 00:52:51.270
- - CLIFTON: YES. ABSOLUTELY.
- 00:52:51.270 --> 00:52:52.170
- I GOT THE PRIVILEGE OF
- 00:52:52.170 --> 00:52:54.060
- FORGIVING MY FATHER, AS WELL,
- 00:52:54.060 --> 00:52:56.030
- FOR NEGLECTING ME, FOR NEVER
- 00:52:57.100 --> 00:53:00.120
- TELLING ME THAT HE LOVED ME
- 00:53:00.120 --> 00:53:01.020
- UNTIL I WAS ON BROADWAY.
- 00:53:01.150 --> 00:53:04.150
- I WAS A GROWN MAN.
- 00:53:04.150 --> 00:53:06.250
- AND, HE WAS,
- 00:53:06.250 --> 00:53:08.140
- "YOU KNOW, I LOVE YOU?"
- 00:53:08.140 --> 00:53:09.270
- "WHAT?"
- 00:53:09.270 --> 00:53:10.250
- - JASON: YEAH.
- 00:53:10.250 --> 00:53:12.010
- [DARRYL LAUGHS]
- 00:53:12.010 --> 00:53:12.180
- [LAUGHTER]
- 00:53:12.180 --> 00:53:14.030
- - CLIFTON: (STRONG VOICE) "YOU
- 00:53:14.030 --> 00:53:14.250
- KNOW THAT'S THE FIRST TIME YOU
- 00:53:14.250 --> 00:53:15.160
- EVER SAID THAT TO ME?"
- 00:53:15.160 --> 00:53:16.030
- - JASON: WOW.
- 00:53:16.030 --> 00:53:17.030
- - CLIFTON: OH...IT WAS...IT
- 00:53:17.030 --> 00:53:17.230
- WAS DEEP.
- 00:53:17.230 --> 00:53:18.180
- - JASON: YEAH.
- 00:53:18.180 --> 00:53:19.230
- - CLIFTON: BUT, BY GOD'S
- 00:53:19.230 --> 00:53:20.140
- GRACE, I GOT TO TALK TO HIM
- 00:53:20.140 --> 00:53:21.270
- ABOUT THOSE THINGS.
- 00:53:21.270 --> 00:53:24.060
- AND HERE'S-- AND I DON'T MEAN
- 00:53:24.060 --> 00:53:25.220
- TO TAKE YOUR TIME, BUT, I GOTTA
- 00:53:25.220 --> 00:53:26.140
- TELL YOU THIS.
- 00:53:26.140 --> 00:53:28.210
- - DARRYL: NO, YOU'RE FINE.
- 00:53:28.210 --> 00:53:29.110
- - CLIFTON: GOD WORKS THIS
- 00:53:29.110 --> 00:53:30.000
- THING OUT.
- 00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:32.150
- UH, MY FATHER HAD COPD, SMOKED
- 00:53:32.150 --> 00:53:33.190
- THREE PACKS OF CAMELS A DAY
- 00:53:33.190 --> 00:53:35.090
- ALL OF HIS LIFE.
- 00:53:35.090 --> 00:53:37.000
- AND, FINALLY, IN '72, HE
- 00:53:37.000 --> 00:53:39.120
- COULDN'T TAKE CARE OF HIMSELF.
- 00:53:39.120 --> 00:53:41.080
- HE COULDN'T WALK ACROSS THIS
- 00:53:41.080 --> 00:53:42.060
- STAGE.
- 00:53:42.060 --> 00:53:43.220
- SO, I SAID: "THAT'S IT.
- 00:53:43.220 --> 00:53:45.150
- YOU'RE LEAVIN' VIRGINIA.
- 00:53:45.150 --> 00:53:46.030
- YOU'RE COMIN' TO STAY WITH ME."
- 00:53:46.030 --> 00:53:47.070
- SO, I BROUGHT HIM OUT TO
- 00:53:47.070 --> 00:53:48.140
- CALIFORNIA.
- 00:53:48.140 --> 00:53:51.010
- AND, UH...AND HE WAS FINE FOR A
- 00:53:51.010 --> 00:53:51.230
- COUPLE OF MONTHS.
- 00:53:51.230 --> 00:53:52.290
- AND THEN, I WENT AWAY TO PREACH
- 00:53:52.290 --> 00:53:54.180
- SOMEWHERE, AND, UH, MY
- 00:53:54.180 --> 00:53:57.030
- SECRETARY SAID, "YOUR FATHER
- 00:53:57.030 --> 00:53:58.270
- FELL OUT."
- 00:53:58.270 --> 00:53:59.250
- SO, I HAD TO PUT HIM IN A HOME.
- 00:53:59.250 --> 00:54:01.140
- AND I CARED FOR HIM, AND I
- 00:54:01.140 --> 00:54:03.060
- SHAVED HIM, AND I TOOK CARE OF
- 00:54:03.060 --> 00:54:05.190
- HIS HAIR, AND...AND, WITH TEARS
- 00:54:05.190 --> 00:54:07.110
- IN HIS EYES, HE SAID, "YOU
- 00:54:07.110 --> 00:54:08.240
- KNOW, SON, CAN-- CAN YOU EVER
- 00:54:08.240 --> 00:54:10.220
- FORGIVE ME?"
- 00:54:10.220 --> 00:54:11.150
- I SAID: "ARE YOU KIDDING?
- 00:54:11.150 --> 00:54:12.250
- YOU THINK I'M TAKIN' CARE OF
- 00:54:12.250 --> 00:54:14.220
- YOU 'CAUSE I HAVEN'T FORGIVEN
- 00:54:14.220 --> 00:54:15.160
- YOU?"
- 00:54:15.160 --> 00:54:16.290
- [DARRYL LAUGHS]
- 00:54:16.290 --> 00:54:17.130
- - DARRYL: RIGHT, RIGHT.
- 00:54:17.130 --> 00:54:18.130
- - JASON: YEAH.
- 00:54:18.130 --> 00:54:18.270
- [LAUGHTER]
- 00:54:18.270 --> 00:54:19.120
- - CLIFTON: I SAID--
- 00:54:19.120 --> 00:54:20.180
- - JASON: IT'S ALREADY DONE.
- 00:54:20.180 --> 00:54:21.150
- - CLIFTON: --"I LOVE YOU.
- 00:54:21.150 --> 00:54:22.040
- IT'S DONE."
- 00:54:22.040 --> 00:54:22.210
- AND, UH, HE SAID, "I BROUGHT
- 00:54:22.210 --> 00:54:23.180
- ALL OF THIS ON MYSELF, DIDN'T
- 00:54:23.180 --> 00:54:24.190
- I?"
- 00:54:24.190 --> 00:54:25.240
- AND HIS PAIN -- SUDDENLY, THE
- 00:54:25.240 --> 00:54:28.210
- EMPATHY I FELT FOR HIM--
- 00:54:28.210 --> 00:54:29.240
- - JASON: RIGHT.
- 00:54:29.240 --> 00:54:31.260
- - CLIFTON: --AND FOR HIS
- 00:54:31.260 --> 00:54:32.150
- PAIN...
- 00:54:32.150 --> 00:54:33.240
- - JASON: YEAH.
- 00:54:33.240 --> 00:54:34.220
- - CLIFTON: AND I SAID, "NO,
- 00:54:34.220 --> 00:54:35.200
- DAD, AN ENEMY HAS DONE THIS"--
- 00:54:35.200 --> 00:54:36.150
- - DARRYL: MM-HMM.
- 00:54:36.150 --> 00:54:37.170
- - CLIFTON: --WHICH IS WHAT THE
- 00:54:37.170 --> 00:54:38.090
- BIBLE SAYS.
- 00:54:38.090 --> 00:54:38.210
- - JASON: YEAH.
- 00:54:38.210 --> 00:54:39.050
- - CLIFTON: AN ENEMY HAS COME
- 00:54:39.050 --> 00:54:39.260
- AND DONE THIS TO YOU.
- 00:54:39.260 --> 00:54:40.200
- BUT, THANK GOD FOR
- 00:54:40.200 --> 00:54:42.090
- JESUS CHRIST.
- 00:54:42.090 --> 00:54:43.170
- - DARRYL: YEAH!
- 00:54:43.170 --> 00:54:44.180
- [APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
- 00:54:44.180 --> 00:54:45.030
- - CLIFTON: 'CAUSE HE CAN MAKE
- 00:54:45.030 --> 00:54:45.240
- IT ALL RIGHT.
- 00:54:45.240 --> 00:54:46.220
- - DARRYL: YEAH, YOU KNOW!
- 00:54:46.220 --> 00:54:47.210
- - JASON: THAT IS SO TRUE.
- 00:54:47.210 --> 00:54:49.020
- [APPLAUSE]
- 00:54:49.020 --> 00:54:52.010
- - CLIFTON: I WONDER IF YOU
- 00:54:52.010 --> 00:54:53.040
- WOULD JUST SPEAK TO THE CAMERA
- 00:54:53.040 --> 00:54:56.020
- AND TELL SOMEBODY OUT THERE
- 00:54:56.020 --> 00:54:58.020
- WHAT...WHAT THE ANSWER IS FOR
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- ADDICTION AND HOW TO ACHIEVE
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- - DARRYL: WELL, I'D JUST LIKE
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- TO SPEAK TO YOU AND TELL YOU
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- THE ANSWER IS JESUS CHRIST
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- HIMSELF.
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- THERE'S NO ONE GREATER, UH,
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- THAN HE IS.
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- HE'S THE GREAT I AM.
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- THOSE THAT MAY BE IN THE MIDST
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- OF STRUGGLING WITH ADDICTION, I
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- ASK THAT YOU COME TO THE CROSS
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- AND SURRENDER YOURSELF.
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- HE LOVES YOU.
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- YOU KNOW, NO MATTER WHAT HAS
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- HAPPENED, NO MATTER WHAT BROKEN
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- PIECES THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR
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- LIFE, ALL THOSE PIECES HE WILL
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- PUT BACK TOGETHER.
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- AND IT'S A PROCESS.
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- IT'S NOT A OVERNIGHT MIRACLE.
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- YOU DIDN'T GET IN THIS MESS
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- OVERNIGHT, SO HE'S GONNA MEET
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- YOU RIGHT WHERE YOU AT.
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- SO, JUST...DON'T BE AFRAID TO
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- SHOW HIM YOUR SCARS BECAUSE
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- HE'S ALREADY...TOOK IT TO THE
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- CROSS FOR YOU.
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- HE'S ALREADY DONE EVERYTHING
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- THAT YOU NEED TO BE DONE.
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- HE'S WAITING ON YOU.
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- TURN AROUND, COME BACK HOME.
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- HE LOVES YOU.
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- JESUS IS CRAZY ABOUT YOU.
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- JESUS IS CRAZY ABOUT PEOPLE.
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- GOD'S GRACE IS SUFFICIENT.
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- IT MEETS YOU RIGHT WHERE YOU'RE
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- AT.
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- [APPLAUSE]
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- IT MEETS YOU IN THE MIDST OF
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- YOUR HARD TIMES, YOUR TROUBLES,
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- YOUR HURTS, YOUR HABITS --
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- WHATEVER IT IS.
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- GRACE IS SOMETHING YOU NEED TO
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- UNDERSTAND.
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- WE DON'T DESERVE IT.
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- BUT HE GIVES IT TO YOU, ANYWAY.
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- HE GIVES IT YOU DAILY WHEN YOU
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- GET UP AND WORSHIP HIM AND TELL
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- HIM THANK YOU.
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- THANK YOU FOR YOUR GRACE.
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- THANK YOU FOR YOUR MERCY.
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- THANK YOU FOR YOUR LOVE.
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- THANK YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE A GOOD
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- GOD.
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- I COULDN'T NEVER FIND
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- A PARTNER.
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- I WAS LOOKIN' FOR A PARTNER.
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- YES, I GOT A WIFE, I GOT
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- WONDERFUL KIDS, BUT I WAS
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- LOOKIN' FOR A PARTNER THAT I
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- COULD FIND THAT I COULD TALK TO
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- EVERY DAY.
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- AND I MET THIS MAN NAMED JESUS.
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- AND I STARTED TALKIN' TO HIM,
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- HE STARTED SPEAKIN' BACK TO ME,
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- AND HE STARTED SHOWIN' ME THE
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- CREATION OF WHY HE CREATED
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- US: NOT TO BE LOST, BUT TO BE
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- SAVED, TO BE WHOLE, TO BE
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- RIGHTEOUS.
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- SO, GOD IS SPEAKING TO YOU,
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- RIGHT NOW.
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- HE CARES ABOUT YOU.
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- GIVE YOUR LIFE TO HIM.
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- IN JESUS' NAME, AMEN.
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- - JASON: AMEN.
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- - CLIFTON: LADIES AND
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- GENTLEMEN, I--
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- [APPLAUSE]
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- IT'S A PRIVILEGE TO BE HERE.
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- [LOUD APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
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- THANK YOU, DARRYL STRAWBERRY!
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- [LOUD APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
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- THANK YOU, JASON ROMANO!
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- AND THANK YOU FOR WATCHING,
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- WHEREVER YOU ARE.
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- [CLOSING THEME PLAYS]
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