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God, Why? | Evil and Suffering

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  • female announcer: Today onthe "Transformed Life"
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  • with Dr. Derwin L. Gray.
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  • Derwin L. Gray:Sovereign redemption means that
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  • God does not waste our pain,he does not waste our suffering.
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  • His redemptive purposein our life is to make us
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  • Jesus Christ lookalikes.
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  • ♪♪♪
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  • ♪ I can feel it in the air,yeah, yeah ♪
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  • ♪ It's going to bea good day ♪
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  • ♪ It's going to bea good day, yeah ♪♪
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  • Derwin: We are startinga brand new series,
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  • a four-week series entitled"God, Why?"
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  • And in a series like this,don't tell everybody,
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  • but I'm going to usea big word here,
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  • it's called a apologetic series.
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  • Apologetic comes from the Greekword "apologia" in 1 Peter 3:15,
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  • and it means to givea defense for.
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  • In the Greco-Roman world,lawyers would give an apologia.
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  • And so, what we want to do,though,
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  • is give a defense for why webelieve what we believe
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  • is not merely intellectual.
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  • It touches the cognitivecapacity,
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  • but also our will and emotionsand actions.
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  • But we really want towalk through some difficult,
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  • difficult questions, and thefirst message we're going
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  • to look at is God, why is thereevil and why is there suffering?
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  • Check this out, evil andsuffering do not belong
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  • in God's good creation.
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  • And one day, they willbe vanquished fully.
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  • So, the kingdom of Godis here, but not fully,
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  • that'll happenwhen Jesus returns.
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  • So, where does eviland suffering come from?
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  • Well, the Bible gives us aframework of this reality.
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  • It says this inRomans chapter 5, verse 12.
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  • This is written by a Jewishscholar by the name of Paul.
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  • He says this, "Therefore, justas sin," understand that sin
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  • means this, that I am willfullyrejecting my role as a partner
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  • with God to build his kingdom.
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  • Sin is not just an action,sin is also a dark power.
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  • "Therefore, just as sin enteredthe world through one man,"
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  • this is Adam inthe garden of Eden.
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  • God gave Adam andEve everything.
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  • The garden was a temple,Adam and Eve was God's priest,
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  • and their job was to reproduceand populate the earth
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  • with image bearers for Godand his glory.
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  • But God gave them a choice,he said,
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  • "Listen, you can have every treein the garden,
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  • but do not touch the tree ofthe knowledge of good and evil
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  • because when you do,you will die."
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  • Now, here comes the question,and this is a good question.
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  • Why did God put the treeof knowledge
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  • of good and evil in the garden?
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  • All he had to do was,keep the tree of life.
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  • Because love demands a choice.
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  • Now, of course God knew whatAdam and Eve was going to do,
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  • he's not caught by surprise.
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  • And God in his wisdom said,"This is the best way
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  • to go about it."
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  • And so, when Adam and Eve choseto sin, it jacked us up.
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  • And look at this, not only sin,but then death through sin.
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  • "In this way, death spread toall people, because all sinned."
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  • Now, I know what you're saying.
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  • You're going,"Derwin, that's not fair.
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  • Why should I be penalizedfor Adam's sin?"
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  • Let me ask you a question, whydo you look like your parents?
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  • Why do your parentslook like their parents?
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  • And it goes all the way back.
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  • Just as we inheritphysical characteristics,
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  • we inheritspiritual characteristics.
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  • If you were to see my dadwhen he was alive,
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  • I'm a 5'11 carbon copyof his 5'4 self.
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  • It is--I mean, it is likelooking in a mirror
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  • when I look at my dad, I'm justa bigger version of him.
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  • I didn't choose that,that's what I got.
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  • Well, Adam and Eve geneticallygave the world and creation
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  • this disease calledevil and suffering.
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  • And because God loves us, hehas a huge story of redemption.
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  • So, what do we do?
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  • All throughout the week,I'm going to give you Romans
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  • chapter 8, verses 18 through 39to read and to journal through,
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  • and that's going to compoundthe effect of this message
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  • because this is importantfor us to wrestle with this,
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  • particularly in this seasonof utter chaos.
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  • Oh my gosh, political chaos.
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  • I mean, who in the world wouldever think we're living through
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  • a pandemic, are you kidding me?
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  • Like that's the stuffin the ancient days,
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  • not in the 21st century.
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  • Civil unrest, all types of stuffall around the world,
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  • and it's important that inthe middle of the chaos,
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  • we have to look to the cross.
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  • God does not waste suffering,let's you and I not waste it.
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  • Check this out now, evil andsuffering doesn't compare
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  • to the waiting glory.
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  • I remember at 9/11, that wasa horrific and tragic time,
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  • and we as a family weregoing to go during spring break,
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  • we were--or not,actually it was in the fall.
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  • We were headingdown to Disney World.
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  • Jeremiah was real young,traffic was crazy 'cause
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  • no one was flying, and so we gotfrom Valentine to Rock Hill.
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  • For those of you whoare not in this area,
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  • that means we wentabout 10 or 12 miles.
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  • And Jeremiah wasin his car seat,
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  • and he goes, "Dad,are we there yet?"
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  • I was like, "Son, you gotto get your mind right.
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  • We ain't even left the stateof South Carolina."
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  • Well, guess what?
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  • In the midst of eviland suffering,
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  • we got to get our minds rightbecause we got a destination
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  • called the new heavensand the new earth.
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  • And what God has for those of uswho are resurrected with Christ
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  • is going to blowour everlasting minds,
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  • it's going to do a work in us.
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  • And please understand this,please understand this.
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  • When we get to the new heavensand new earth,
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  • we are not going to beinfant babies with wings.
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  • Humans don't turn into angels.
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  • The new heavens and new earth isgoing to be a greater version
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  • of what the gardenwas supposed to be.
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  • We're going to have jobs,we're going to do--
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  • we're going to co-ruleand reign with Jesus.
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  • It's going to be epic.
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  • And so, it's important thatour evil and suffering today
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  • do not compare tothe waiting glory.
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  • I'm going to see my grandmotheragain and she won't have cancer
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  • in her body, andwe'll be able to fish.
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  • Some of you are going,"Derwin, what do you mean
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  • we're going to be able to fish?"
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  • Remember when Jesusrose from the dead?
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  • What was he doing onthe beach when Peter
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  • and all them were fishing?
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  • He was grilling fish.How did he grill the fish?
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  • Jesus caught the fish,praise God.
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  • Romans 8:18, "For I considerthat sufferings
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  • of this present time are notworth," listen to this,
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  • "are not worth comparingwith the glory that is
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  • going to be revealed to us."
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  • So, this is the way it works.
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  • If we die before Jesus returns,our spirit's going to be
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  • with the Lord, our bodiesgo to the ground.
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  • But then when Jesus comes back,there's a new heavens
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  • and there's a new earth,and we have new, glorified,
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  • resurrected bodies.
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  • Revelation says, "The holy citycame down
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  • and God was with his people."
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  • That is epic, that is beautiful.
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  • And please understand this,it is not us simply singing.
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  • Yes, singing's goingto be a part of it,
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  • worship is goingto be a part of it,
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  • but all of life willbe worship, co-ruling,
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  • co-reigning with Jesus.
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  • And our present sufferingdoes not compare.
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  • Evil and suffering reminds usthat all of creation
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  • needs redemption.
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  • The power of Jesus's bloodis so epic that
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  • even creation itself will heal.
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  • Watch this, "For the creationeagerly waits with anticipation
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  • for God's sons and daughtersto be revealed.
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  • For the creation was subjectedto futility, not willingly,
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  • but because of him,"that's Adam,
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  • "who subjected it in the hope,"verse 21,
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  • "that creation itself willalso be set free from bondage
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  • to decay into the gloriousfreedom of God's children."
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  • So, right now, creationis experiencing bondage,
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  • it is experiencing decay,and it is also longing
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  • for the new heavens, new earth,longing for our resurrection.
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  • Understand this, a visionof the future transforms
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  • what you do today.
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  • If I can take you backto my previous life,
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  • one of the things that I learnedin high school and I followed
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  • in college and in theNational Football League,
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  • and moms and dads,regardless if you play sports,
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  • this will help you.
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  • Practice for most peopleis not fun.
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  • People want to getto the game and play.
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  • But players that arereally good,
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  • understand that the gameis practice.
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  • So, you practice so hardthat the game is easy.
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  • You prepare so wellthat the game is easy.
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  • So, what God is saying to usis get our minds right
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  • and understand that a visionof the future transforms
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  • what we do today.
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  • "For we know that the wholeof creation has been groaning
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  • together with labor pains.
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  • Not only that, but we ourselveswho have the spirit as
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  • the firstfruits, we alsogroan within ourselves."
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  • Let me park right here.
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  • My, my, my, you knowwhat that means?
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  • What's happening on the outsideis nowhere near as bad
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  • as what's happeningon the inside.
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  • In Matthew 7, Jesus droppedthis knowledge.
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  • What's on the inside is whatdefiles a person,
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  • and he startswith evil thoughts.
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  • The scene of the crimeis your mind.
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  • Evil thoughts, and then goesinto sexual immorality,
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  • and all this messed up stuff.
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  • So, we as followers of Jesus,are even groaning, saying,
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  • "God, why am I stillstruggling with this?
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  • God, why is this?
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  • God, why--" By the way,if you have conviction,
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  • that's differentthan condemnation.
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  • That's different than guilt.
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  • Condemnation and guiltsays this, you are evil.
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  • Conviction sayswhat you did was evil,
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  • but it's not a reflectionof who you are in Christ.
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  • Discern the difference.
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  • Condemnation and guiltpush you from God;
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  • conviction moves you intothe arms of the loving God.
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  • Eagerly waiting for adoption,the redemption of our bodies,
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  • wow.
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  • Even as we're physicallygetting older,
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  • we're waiting for the redemptionof our body.
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  • So, understand this,heaven is not this place
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  • where we're clearless,or babies with dirty diapers
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  • on and wings flapping around.
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  • No, we are glorified,resurrected with the perfect
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  • bodies and the perfect element,worshipping a perfect God,
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  • and co-ruling andco-reigning with him.
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  • Evil and suffering teachesus to see the invisible.
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  • You're like, "Derwin,what you talking about?"
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  • Well, let's see whatPaul talking about
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  • through the Holy Spirit.
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  • He says this, "Now in this hopewe are saved."
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  • So, the word "hope"biblically doesn't mean like,
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  • "Man, I sure hope that happens."
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  • Biblical hope is this, "I knowit's going to happen."
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  • You go, "Derwin, well, why doyou have such confidence?"
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  • Because it's in Jesusand not me.
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  • "But why do you have confidencein Jesus?"
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  • Because Jesus rosefrom the dead.
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  • I've been to Jerusalem andthere are two historic spots
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  • where they say Jesus was buried.
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  • And in both spots,he ain't there.
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  • And because he's not there,our hope in a new heavens
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  • and a new earth, our hopein the power of God,
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  • our hope in the kingdom of God,our hope in the presence
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  • of Jesus is not simply,"Well, I hope so."
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  • It's a I hope, but I know.
  • 00:11:51.670 --> 00:11:54.340
  • Check this out, "Now inthis hope we are saved."
  • 00:11:54.373 --> 00:11:59.512
  • This simply doesn't meanentrance into God's kingdom,
  • 00:11:59.545 --> 00:12:01.981
  • it means that God keeps onsaving us.
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  • He keeps holding us,he keeps moving us,
  • 00:12:04.483 --> 00:12:07.486
  • he keeps transforming us.
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  • When we fall down,he picks us up.
  • 00:12:09.388 --> 00:12:11.791
  • When we get prideful,he humbles us.
  • 00:12:11.824 --> 00:12:14.226
  • He's always there with us,saving us.
  • 00:12:14.260 --> 00:12:18.264
  • "But hope that is seenis not hope,
  • 00:12:18.297 --> 00:12:23.068
  • because who hopesfor what he sees?
  • 00:12:23.102 --> 00:12:28.174
  • Now if we hope for whatwe do not see,
  • 00:12:28.207 --> 00:12:32.745
  • we eagerly wait for itwith patience."
  • 00:12:32.778 --> 00:12:37.316
  • We begin to see God's invisiblekingdom working
  • 00:12:37.349 --> 00:12:40.719
  • when we don't even know it.
  • 00:12:40.753 --> 00:12:43.823
  • Friends, if someone would'vetold me a year ago at this time
  • 00:12:43.856 --> 00:12:49.795
  • that Transformation Church'ssermons would be
  • 00:12:49.829 --> 00:12:52.665
  • downloaded and listened to100.000 times per week,
  • 00:12:52.698 --> 00:12:58.304
  • I would say you're crazy.
  • 00:12:58.337 --> 00:13:01.240
  • I would say that's--I don't evenknow how that would be possible.
  • 00:13:01.273 --> 00:13:04.577
  • But through TBN andthrough our online platforms,
  • 00:13:04.610 --> 00:13:08.848
  • literally 100.000-plus peopleare watching.
  • 00:13:08.881 --> 00:13:12.885
  • Are you kidding me?
  • 00:13:12.918 --> 00:13:14.353
  • We couldn't put 100.000 peoplein a building.
  • 00:13:14.386 --> 00:13:15.988
  • By the way, I cannot wait untilwe can get back and celebrate.
  • 00:13:16.021 --> 00:13:18.891
  • I'm going to hug y'all, I'mgoing to give you chest bumps.
  • 00:13:18.924 --> 00:13:21.727
  • I might get so excited, I mighttackle you back in my NFL days.
  • 00:13:21.760 --> 00:13:25.397
  • I've been riding my bikeand lifting weights.
  • 00:13:25.431 --> 00:13:27.733
  • I may give you a concussion,but just know I love you.
  • 00:13:27.766 --> 00:13:29.935
  • But here's my point,here's my point, though.
  • 00:13:29.969 --> 00:13:32.571
  • We wait patiently,knowing that God is moving,
  • 00:13:32.605 --> 00:13:35.174
  • knowing that God is working,knowing that God is active,
  • 00:13:35.207 --> 00:13:38.077
  • that he's doing 100.000 thingsthat we can't even see it.
  • 00:13:38.110 --> 00:13:40.779
  • We may be able to see one,but that's just enough.
  • 00:13:40.813 --> 00:13:42.848
  • So understand this, that webegin to see the invisible,
  • 00:13:42.882 --> 00:13:45.851
  • that God's kingdombecomes visible.
  • 00:13:45.885 --> 00:13:49.221
  • It's the eyes of faith.
  • 00:13:49.255 --> 00:13:50.656
  • Why?
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  • Because he's faithful,he is trustworthy.
  • 00:13:52.024 --> 00:13:55.294
  • Evil and suffering teaches usto pray in the Spirit.
  • 00:13:55.327 --> 00:13:59.765
  • What does that mean?Paul helps us.
  • 00:13:59.798 --> 00:14:02.201
  • Now, remember the contextis suffering,
  • 00:14:02.234 --> 00:14:03.903
  • the context is difficulty.
  • 00:14:03.936 --> 00:14:05.971
  • In the same way, the Spiritalso helps us in our weakness.
  • 00:14:06.005 --> 00:14:10.309
  • We are strong when we're weak.
  • 00:14:10.342 --> 00:14:12.611
  • When we're vulnerableand we say,
  • 00:14:12.645 --> 00:14:14.213
  • "God, I need you," that'swhen we're the strongest.
  • 00:14:14.246 --> 00:14:17.549
  • "Because we do not know whatto pray for as we should."
  • 00:14:17.583 --> 00:14:21.854
  • Let's pause here.
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  • In the midst ofthis broken world, family,
  • 00:14:23.555 --> 00:14:26.058
  • there are things that aregoing to be so beyond us,
  • 00:14:26.091 --> 00:14:29.762
  • we're not even going to knowwhat to pray for.
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  • Ages 42 through 46, I am 49 now,ages 42 to 46 were hard.
  • 00:14:32.064 --> 00:14:40.606
  • Oh my gosh, they were so hard.
  • 00:14:40.639 --> 00:14:42.641
  • There were some extendedfamily issues, and man,
  • 00:14:42.675 --> 00:14:45.744
  • when you love people andthey're hurting, it hurts you
  • 00:14:45.778 --> 00:14:49.448
  • in places that you neverever thought you could hurt.
  • 00:14:49.481 --> 00:14:53.018
  • And I remember days getting outof the bed because I didn't
  • 00:14:53.052 --> 00:14:55.788
  • want to wake up Vicki frompraying and crying.
  • 00:14:55.821 --> 00:14:58.891
  • Then my face would be buried inthe floor and alls I could do
  • 00:14:58.924 --> 00:15:03.028
  • was this, "Mmmmmm."
  • 00:15:03.062 --> 00:15:06.365
  • That's alls I could do waslike this mumble,
  • 00:15:06.398 --> 00:15:08.867
  • "Mmmmm," this hum.
  • 00:15:08.901 --> 00:15:10.736
  • That's all I--I didn't know whatto pray for, I was exhausted.
  • 00:15:10.769 --> 00:15:13.605
  • I didn't know what to pray for,but the good news is
  • 00:15:13.639 --> 00:15:15.607
  • God the Holy Spirit knowswhat to pray for.
  • 00:15:15.641 --> 00:15:18.978
  • And he's interceding us,and he's guiding us,
  • 00:15:19.011 --> 00:15:21.814
  • and he's directing us.
  • 00:15:21.847 --> 00:15:23.315
  • Check this out, "But the Spirithimself intercedes for us
  • 00:15:23.349 --> 00:15:26.552
  • with inexpressible groanings.
  • 00:15:26.585 --> 00:15:32.691
  • And he who searches our heartknows the mind of the Spirit,
  • 00:15:32.725 --> 00:15:35.561
  • because he intercedesfor the saints according
  • 00:15:35.594 --> 00:15:38.130
  • to the will of God."
  • 00:15:38.163 --> 00:15:42.368
  • Danish philosopherSoren Kierkegaard,
  • 00:15:42.401 --> 00:15:44.937
  • he said this, "A man prayed,and at first he thought
  • 00:15:44.970 --> 00:15:49.308
  • that prayer was talking.
  • 00:15:49.341 --> 00:15:52.344
  • But he became more andmore quiet until in the end
  • 00:15:52.378 --> 00:15:54.813
  • he realized that prayerwas listening."
  • 00:15:54.847 --> 00:15:59.985
  • And check this out, your earsand my ears are tuned to listen
  • 00:16:00.019 --> 00:16:04.523
  • to God as we study Scripture.
  • 00:16:04.556 --> 00:16:09.161
  • In the words ofEugene Peterson,
  • 00:16:09.194 --> 00:16:10.529
  • the great pastor,"Eat this Book.
  • 00:16:10.562 --> 00:16:13.899
  • Eat the Bible.Consume it."
  • 00:16:13.932 --> 00:16:16.668
  • I read a study that said 32%of believers read
  • 00:16:16.702 --> 00:16:20.105
  • the Bible every day.
  • 00:16:20.139 --> 00:16:21.440
  • That's like saying 32%of followers of Jesus eat
  • 00:16:21.473 --> 00:16:24.343
  • one meal a day.
  • 00:16:24.376 --> 00:16:26.178
  • Listen, Netflix is not goingto give you
  • 00:16:26.211 --> 00:16:28.781
  • what the Bible can give you.
  • 00:16:28.814 --> 00:16:30.315
  • Amazon Prime is not goingto give you what the Bible
  • 00:16:30.349 --> 00:16:32.951
  • can give you.
  • 00:16:32.985 --> 00:16:34.286
  • Your video games is notgoing to give you
  • 00:16:34.319 --> 00:16:36.121
  • what the Bible can give you.
  • 00:16:36.155 --> 00:16:37.523
  • Oftentimes, what we do iswe numb ourselves
  • 00:16:37.556 --> 00:16:40.993
  • and we entertain ourselvesinto oblivion.
  • 00:16:41.026 --> 00:16:44.763
  • And what COVID has done isit has shut all that down.
  • 00:16:44.797 --> 00:16:48.400
  • And we got a choice,we can run to that,
  • 00:16:48.434 --> 00:16:50.436
  • or we can run to the Lord.
  • 00:16:50.469 --> 00:16:52.438
  • If you want to hear God's voice,it is in the Bible.
  • 00:16:52.471 --> 00:16:57.543
  • Our ears become more tunedto the voice of God
  • 00:16:57.576 --> 00:17:00.646
  • as we listen to the rhythmof his grace through Scripture.
  • 00:17:00.679 --> 00:17:04.416
  • But prayer is allowing theHoly Spirit to intercede for us
  • 00:17:04.450 --> 00:17:08.420
  • because it's so far beyond usat times.
  • 00:17:08.454 --> 00:17:11.957
  • Evil and suffering showcasesGod's sovereign
  • 00:17:11.990 --> 00:17:14.526
  • redemptive purposesin your life.
  • 00:17:14.560 --> 00:17:16.628
  • Showcase means to show off.
  • 00:17:16.662 --> 00:17:19.798
  • God loves showing off.
  • 00:17:19.832 --> 00:17:22.634
  • But sometimes, we miss itbecause our focus is
  • 00:17:22.668 --> 00:17:25.003
  • on the chaos insteadof the cross.
  • 00:17:25.037 --> 00:17:27.372
  • The word "sovereign" once againdoes not mean
  • 00:17:27.406 --> 00:17:29.641
  • that God is like meticulousand we're robots.
  • 00:17:29.675 --> 00:17:32.144
  • It simply means that God isruling and reigning
  • 00:17:32.177 --> 00:17:34.780
  • and governing.
  • 00:17:34.813 --> 00:17:36.115
  • Now remember, some of you go,"Well, if God is ruling
  • 00:17:36.148 --> 00:17:38.083
  • and reigning, why doesn'the get rid of evil?"
  • 00:17:38.117 --> 00:17:40.152
  • You know what?
  • 00:17:40.185 --> 00:17:41.487
  • If God decided to get ridof all evil right now,
  • 00:17:41.520 --> 00:17:43.489
  • he would start with me and you.
  • 00:17:43.522 --> 00:17:48.460
  • When we understandthe holiness of God,
  • 00:17:48.494 --> 00:17:50.963
  • the otherness of God,we understand, "Oh God, wait,
  • 00:17:50.996 --> 00:17:56.001
  • wait, don't come yet becausethere's more people
  • 00:17:56.034 --> 00:17:57.970
  • that need to know you.
  • 00:17:58.003 --> 00:17:59.304
  • Don't wrap it up yet 'causethere's more people
  • 00:17:59.338 --> 00:18:00.906
  • to know you."
  • 00:18:00.939 --> 00:18:02.241
  • But simultaneously we go,"Oh holy God,
  • 00:18:02.274 --> 00:18:03.809
  • I want to be with you, I wantto be in your presence."
  • 00:18:03.842 --> 00:18:05.477
  • And he goes, "I am with you.
  • 00:18:05.511 --> 00:18:06.912
  • I am present with you.
  • 00:18:06.945 --> 00:18:08.347
  • I am Emmanuel.I am with you.
  • 00:18:08.380 --> 00:18:10.315
  • Now, go into the worldand tell them,
  • 00:18:10.349 --> 00:18:11.950
  • 'Repent, for the kingdomof God is at hand.'"
  • 00:18:11.984 --> 00:18:15.587
  • Sovereign redemption means thatGod does not waste our pain,
  • 00:18:15.621 --> 00:18:20.459
  • he does not waste our suffering.
  • 00:18:20.492 --> 00:18:23.595
  • His redemptive purposein our life is to make us
  • 00:18:23.629 --> 00:18:26.398
  • Jesus Christ lookalikes.
  • 00:18:26.431 --> 00:18:29.268
  • We know that all thingswork what?
  • 00:18:29.301 --> 00:18:31.703
  • Together for the good of thosewho love God.
  • 00:18:31.737 --> 00:18:33.572
  • Now, this is only for thosewho love God,
  • 00:18:33.605 --> 00:18:36.341
  • "Who are called accordingto his purpose.
  • 00:18:36.375 --> 00:18:38.243
  • For those who he foreknewhe also predestined
  • 00:18:38.277 --> 00:18:41.647
  • to be conformed to the imageof his Son."
  • 00:18:41.680 --> 00:18:43.515
  • The word "foreknew" simplymeans God knew in advance.
  • 00:18:43.549 --> 00:18:47.519
  • The word "predestined"means God has predetermined.
  • 00:18:47.553 --> 00:18:50.289
  • So, God has predeterminedthat whoever believes in his
  • 00:18:50.322 --> 00:18:53.392
  • Son Jesus will be conformed tothe image of his Son Jesus.
  • 00:18:53.425 --> 00:18:58.597
  • This is God's goal for you.
  • 00:18:58.630 --> 00:19:01.466
  • If you want to know God's aim,God's goal for you,
  • 00:19:01.500 --> 00:19:04.336
  • here it is, he wants to make youa Jesus Christ lookalike.
  • 00:19:04.369 --> 00:19:08.173
  • I've been saying thisfor ten years,
  • 00:19:08.207 --> 00:19:09.508
  • it's good to my soul, I hopeit's good for you.
  • 00:19:09.541 --> 00:19:11.543
  • Imagine loving like Jesusfor just a minute.
  • 00:19:11.577 --> 00:19:15.681
  • Imagine having the mind of Jesusfor just a minute.
  • 00:19:15.714 --> 00:19:18.884
  • Imagine having the patienceof Jesus, the kindness of Jesus,
  • 00:19:18.917 --> 00:19:21.753
  • the grace of Jesus,the mercy of Jesus,
  • 00:19:21.787 --> 00:19:24.590
  • the presence and powerand glory of Jesus.
  • 00:19:24.623 --> 00:19:27.159
  • Imagine that.
  • 00:19:27.192 --> 00:19:28.493
  • Well, guess what?
  • 00:19:28.527 --> 00:19:29.828
  • You don't have to imagine it,the Holy Spirit wants to do it
  • 00:19:29.861 --> 00:19:31.997
  • in us, and God usesall things to do it.
  • 00:19:32.030 --> 00:19:38.937
  • "So that he would bethe firstborn among
  • 00:19:38.971 --> 00:19:42.274
  • many brothers and sisters."
  • 00:19:42.307 --> 00:19:45.110
  • In his humanity, Jesus isour elder brother,
  • 00:19:45.143 --> 00:19:48.981
  • and we're taking uponhis family resemblance.
  • 00:19:49.014 --> 00:19:51.383
  • As the second person of Yahweh,we worship him along
  • 00:19:51.416 --> 00:19:55.287
  • with the Father and the Spirit.
  • 00:19:55.320 --> 00:19:58.490
  • "And those he predestined,he also called.
  • 00:19:58.523 --> 00:20:01.226
  • And those he called,he also justified.
  • 00:20:01.260 --> 00:20:04.096
  • And those he justified,he also glorified."
  • 00:20:04.129 --> 00:20:07.232
  • Isn't this awesome that Godin eternity past has already
  • 00:20:07.266 --> 00:20:11.203
  • set up your future and eternityin a new heavens, new earth?
  • 00:20:11.236 --> 00:20:14.673
  • It is a done deal.
  • 00:20:14.706 --> 00:20:17.042
  • So, in other words, you andI are living from victory,
  • 00:20:17.075 --> 00:20:22.781
  • not for victory.
  • 00:20:22.814 --> 00:20:25.350
  • You and I are livingfrom affirmation,
  • 00:20:25.384 --> 00:20:28.587
  • not for affirmation.
  • 00:20:28.620 --> 00:20:31.456
  • You and I are living fromthe overcoming power of Jesus,
  • 00:20:31.490 --> 00:20:37.696
  • not to overcome.
  • 00:20:37.729 --> 00:20:41.466
  • He already did it, we just walkin it by faith.
  • 00:20:41.500 --> 00:20:45.637
  • Evil and suffering reminds usthat we are
  • 00:20:45.671 --> 00:20:48.740
  • more than conquerors in Christ.
  • 00:20:48.774 --> 00:20:51.810
  • Paul says this, "What, then, arewe to say about these things?"
  • 00:20:51.843 --> 00:20:54.446
  • That's all the thingsthat are going on,
  • 00:20:54.479 --> 00:20:56.682
  • the decay of the earth,the battle within us,
  • 00:20:56.715 --> 00:20:59.151
  • evil and suffering.
  • 00:20:59.184 --> 00:21:00.686
  • He goes, "Well, what are weto say about all this?"
  • 00:21:00.719 --> 00:21:02.654
  • He goes, "If God is for us,who can be against us?"
  • 00:21:02.688 --> 00:21:04.956
  • Let me say this to you,Transformation Church,
  • 00:21:04.990 --> 00:21:06.925
  • and let me say this toour family and friends
  • 00:21:06.958 --> 00:21:09.728
  • who are watching.
  • 00:21:09.761 --> 00:21:11.463
  • If God is for us,who can be against us?
  • 00:21:11.496 --> 00:21:14.333
  • If God is for us,who can be against us?
  • 00:21:14.666 --> 00:21:18.637
  • God is for us.
  • 00:21:18.670 --> 00:21:19.971
  • How do we know?
  • 00:21:20.005 --> 00:21:21.306
  • Because the cross was bloody.
  • 00:21:21.340 --> 00:21:22.974
  • How do we know?
  • 00:21:23.008 --> 00:21:24.309
  • Because the tomb is empty.
  • 00:21:24.343 --> 00:21:25.644
  • When you don't know and the onlything you can remember,
  • 00:21:25.677 --> 00:21:28.046
  • that evil and sufferingis so bad,
  • 00:21:28.080 --> 00:21:29.815
  • the only thing you can rememberis that the cross was bloody
  • 00:21:29.848 --> 00:21:33.485
  • and that the tomb is empty,you've got all you need.
  • 00:21:33.518 --> 00:21:37.522
  • Verse 32, "He did not evenspare his own Son
  • 00:21:37.556 --> 00:21:39.991
  • but gave him up for us all.
  • 00:21:40.025 --> 00:21:42.260
  • How will he not also with himgrant us everything?"
  • 00:21:42.294 --> 00:21:45.130
  • And everything is he called us,he justified us,
  • 00:21:45.163 --> 00:21:48.934
  • he glorified us,he's sanctifying us.
  • 00:21:48.967 --> 00:21:51.603
  • This is all talkingabout his redemptive work.
  • 00:21:51.636 --> 00:21:54.206
  • That's the--that's the everything,
  • 00:21:54.239 --> 00:21:56.108
  • so keep that in mind.
  • 00:21:56.141 --> 00:21:57.542
  • God is more concerned withour character, not our comfort.
  • 00:21:57.576 --> 00:22:00.512
  • And understand this, we livein a broken world,
  • 00:22:00.545 --> 00:22:03.115
  • it's not yet fixed.
  • 00:22:03.148 --> 00:22:04.449
  • And when we go,"God, fix it," he goes,
  • 00:22:04.483 --> 00:22:06.418
  • "I have and I am, and I want youto join me in it."
  • 00:22:06.451 --> 00:22:11.189
  • Verse 33, "Who can bringaccusation against God's elect?"
  • 00:22:11.223 --> 00:22:15.227
  • Simply, election means this,that Christ was God's elect one.
  • 00:22:15.260 --> 00:22:19.798
  • And because we're in Christ,we share in his election.
  • 00:22:19.831 --> 00:22:23.001
  • And election has to do withservice and mission and purpose.
  • 00:22:23.034 --> 00:22:30.175
  • God is the one who justifies.
  • 00:22:30.208 --> 00:22:32.844
  • Who is the one who condemns us?
  • 00:22:32.878 --> 00:22:34.513
  • Christ is the one who died.
  • 00:22:34.546 --> 00:22:39.017
  • Even more, has been raised.
  • 00:22:39.050 --> 00:22:42.421
  • And he is at the right handof God and intercedes for us.
  • 00:22:42.454 --> 00:22:46.324
  • Oh my goodness,Jesus is praying for you,
  • 00:22:46.358 --> 00:22:48.827
  • the Holy Spirit ispraying for you.
  • 00:22:48.860 --> 00:22:52.998
  • Don't look at the chaos,look at the cross,
  • 00:22:53.031 --> 00:22:55.801
  • look at the empty tomb.
  • 00:22:55.834 --> 00:22:57.502
  • When Paul wrote this, therewasn't 24-hour news cycles.
  • 00:22:57.536 --> 00:23:02.107
  • When Paul wrote this,there wasn't apps.
  • 00:23:02.140 --> 00:23:05.377
  • So, a lot of times, we'refocusing on the wrong things
  • 00:23:05.410 --> 00:23:08.980
  • and not focusing on the Onewho is seated above.
  • 00:23:09.014 --> 00:23:13.418
  • Here's the thing,where is your gaze?
  • 00:23:13.452 --> 00:23:18.123
  • For whatever you gaze at,you become like.
  • 00:23:18.156 --> 00:23:24.996
  • Who can separate usfrom the love of Christ?
  • 00:23:25.030 --> 00:23:27.966
  • Notice what Paul says,like he doesn't go,
  • 00:23:27.999 --> 00:23:30.502
  • "Who can separate usfrom our job?
  • 00:23:30.535 --> 00:23:32.504
  • Who can separate usfrom our mortgage?
  • 00:23:32.537 --> 00:23:34.039
  • Who can separate usfrom our dreams?"
  • 00:23:34.072 --> 00:23:35.874
  • No, he goes right tothe heart of the issue,
  • 00:23:35.907 --> 00:23:38.210
  • "Who can separate usfrom the Messiah?
  • 00:23:38.243 --> 00:23:40.078
  • Can affliction, or distress,or persecution, or famine,
  • 00:23:40.111 --> 00:23:44.449
  • or nakedness, or danger,or sword?"
  • 00:23:44.483 --> 00:23:47.285
  • If Paul was writing today,he would say this,
  • 00:23:47.319 --> 00:23:49.921
  • "Can COVID-19 separate us?
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  • Can political divisionseparate us?
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  • Can persecution separate us?
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  • Can a busted up economyseparate us?
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  • Can opiate addictionseparate us?"
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  • "As it is written, 'Becauseof you were being put to death
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  • all day long, we're countedas sheep to be slaughtered.'
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  • In all these things we are morethan conquerors through him
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  • who loved us."
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  • Did you hear this?
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  • Let me say it again forthe people in the back.
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  • We are more than conquerorsin him who loved us.
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  • That word "conqueror"is hypanike.
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  • It means victorious, it meansto keep on winning.
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  • But winning in God's economy isnot winning like man's economy.
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  • Winning in God's economy isyou become more humble,
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  • you become more kind,you become more purposeful,
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  • you become more merciful,you become more gracious.
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  • You see what I'm saying?You become more like Christ.
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  • That's what winning is.
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  • Verse 38, "For I'm persuadedthat neither death nor life,
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  • nor angels nor rulers,nor things present
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  • nor things to come, nor powers,"that's the demonic realm,
  • 00:24:57.923 --> 00:25:01.326
  • "nor height nor depth, nor anycreated thing will be able
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  • to separate us from the loveof God that is
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  • in Christ Jesus our Lord."
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  • Evil and suffering is a problemfor every worldview.
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  • We may as wellsuffer redemptively.
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  • We may as well takethrough God's grace what
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  • the enemy means for eviland God uses it for good.
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  • And the good is God conforms usto the image of Christ,
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  • and we continue the ministryand mission of Christ
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  • in all of life.
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  • You, precious child, are morethan a conqueror in Christ.
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  • His grace is sufficient,his presence is everlasting,
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  • and his sovereign goodnessis holding you
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  • in his nail-pierced hands.
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  • Derwin: It is our prayer thatthe Holy Spirit moved
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  • on your heart, and that afterthis message that you think,
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  • "Wow, Jesus is more beautiful,he's more life giving,
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  • he's more forgiving,he's more gracious,
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  • that he's the greatest treasurethat I could ever possess."
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  • If you're ready to receive Jesusas your God and Savior and King,
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  • pray this to him.
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  • He's listening, he's present.
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  • Pray these words to him,"Lord Jesus,
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  • I bow my knee to you, and I saythank you for your grace,
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  • thank you for taking my placeon the cross,
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  • your blood forever forgives me,that three days later
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  • you rose from the tomb andyou brought me out with you.
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  • And now, your life is my life.
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  • I say yes to you, Lord Jesus."
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  • Friends, if you prayedthat prayer with me,
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  • go to derwinlgray.com.
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  • Please let me know, we wantto celebrate with you.
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  • Derwin: Thank you so muchfor tuning into,
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  • "The Transformed Life."
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  • It is our prayer that you wouldsee that God's grace is amazing,
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  • that he is the greatest treasurethat a human heart can possess.
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  • If this messagestrengthened you,
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  • if it encouraged you, would youconsider giving a financial gift
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  • to support us so that we cancontinue to preach the gospel
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  • around the world?
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  • But first, we want you to giveyour firstfruits
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  • to your local church.
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  • And then secondly, if God movesyour heart to give,
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  • would you go to derwinlgray.comand give a generous gift
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  • so that more livescan be transformed?
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