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December 6, 2019
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  • MUSIC
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  • KENDAL HAGEE: HAVE YOU EVER
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  • ASKED YOURSELF WHY WE SUFFER?
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  • DOES OUR FAITH PREVENT
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  • STRUGGLE?
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  • MATT HAGEE: TODAY WE'RE GOING
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  • TO EXPLORE THAT TOPIC
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  • AND ASK HARD QUESTIONS
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  • WITH LAURA STORY.
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  • LAURA IS A GRAMMY, BILLBOARD,
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  • AND DOVE AWARD WINNER
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  • KNOWN FOR SONGS LIKE BLESSINGS
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  • AND MIGHTY TO SAVE.
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  • SHE'LL SHARE HER EXPERIENCE OF
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  • FACING INCREDIBLE CHALLENGES
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  • AND FINDING JOY
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  • EVEN IN THE MIDST OF SOME
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  • OF HER DEEPEST PAIN.
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  • MUSIC
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  • KENDAL HAGEE: WELCOME TO
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  • "THE DIFFERENCE."
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  • WE ARE HERE WITH
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  • GRAMMY AWARD WINNING ARTIST,
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  • LAURA STORY.
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  • THANK YOU, LAURA,
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  • FOR BEING HERE.
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  • LAURA STORY: THANK YOU GUYS
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  • SO MUCH.
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  • MATT HAGEE: IT IS AN HONOR
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  • TO FINALLY MEET YOU.
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  • I'VE MET YOU MUSICALLY
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  • MANY TIMES.
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  • KENDAL HAGEE: YEAH,
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  • WE'VE HEARD YOUR VOICE.
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  • MATT HAGEE: WE'VE HEARD
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  • YOUR VOICE.
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  • KENDAL HAGEE: WE'VE READ
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  • YOUR BOOK.
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  • MATT HAGEE: AND HEARD
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  • YOUR SONGS SUNG IN CHURCH,
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  • WHICH TO ME,
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  • YOU KNOW I WAS TELLING YOU,
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  • IT'S KIND OF THE PINNACLE
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  • OF CHRISTIAN MUSIC SUCCESS.
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  • YOU CAN WIN A DOVE AWARD.
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  • YOU CAN GET A NOMINATION.
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  • AND THOSE ARE WONDERFUL THINGS.
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  • DON'T GET ME WRONG;
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  • THEY'RE FUN.
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  • BUT TO ME,
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  • WHEN SOMEBODY TAKES WHAT YOU'RE
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  • PRESENTING AS YOUR TALENT
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  • AND THEY BRING IT BACK
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  • TO CHURCH IN THEIR WORSHIP,
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  • THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY
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  • REMARKABLE.
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  • SO CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU
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  • IN ALL THE THINGS
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  • THAT YOU'VE DONE.
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  • LAURA STORY: THANK YOU, GUYS.
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  • MATT HAGEE: AND THERE'S
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  • PROBABLY A LOT OF FOLKS,
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  • WHO DO KNOW YOU WELL
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  • FOR YOUR MUSIC.
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  • BUT THEY MIGHT NOT KNOW A LOT
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  • OF YOUR PERSONAL STORY.
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  • LAURA STORY: OKAY.
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  • MATT HAGEE: AND THAT'S KIND OF
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  • WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO TALK
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  • ABOUT IN THIS INTERVIEW,
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  • BECAUSE REALLY SOME OF THE MOST
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  • SINCERE AND IMPACTFUL CONTENT
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  • COMES FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE
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  • LIVED WHAT THEY'RE SINGING.
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  • LAURA STORY: YES, ABSOLUTELY.
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  • MATT HAGEE: AND IN MANY CASES,
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  • THAT REFLECTS YOUR SITUATION.
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  • TELL US ABOUT YOUR FAMILY.
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  • LAURA STORY: WELL A LITTLE BIT
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  • OF OUR STORY,
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  • AND YOU'RE SO RIGHT,
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  • GOD HAS DEFINITELY ALLOWED US.
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  • MATT HAGEE: SHE SAID
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  • I WAS RIGHT.
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  • (LAUGHTER)
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  • MATT HAGEE: I WANT THAT
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  • ON TAPE.
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  • (LAUGHTER)
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  • LAURA STORY: THE TRUTH IS
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  • GOD DOES USE THOSE MOST BROKEN
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  • THINGS IN OUR LIFE TO SHOWCASE
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  • HIS POWER AND STRENGTH.
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  • AND FOR US,
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  • THAT'S PROBABLY THE SITUATION
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  • WITH MY HUSBAND'S HEALTH.
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  • WE HAD BEEN MARRIED JUST TWO
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  • YEARS WHEN MARTIN WAS DIAGNOSED
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  • WITH A BRAIN TUMOR.
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  • AND SO HERE WE ARE STARTING OUR
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  • STORY AND THIS PERFECT PLAN
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  • FOR OUR LIFE THAT WE
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  • JUST NEEDED GOD TO SIGN OFF ON.
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  • AND VERY EARLY ON,
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  • WE REALIZED THAT GOD REALLY
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  • IS -- HE'S SO MUCH MORE
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  • ABOUT BRINGING US TO A PLACE
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  • OF SAYING, "NOT MY PLAN,
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  • BUT YOURS BE DONE."
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  • SO HE ENDED UP GOING THROUGH
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  • SURGERY AND ENDED UP
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  • IN THE HOSPITAL
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  • FOR ABOUT THREE MONTHS.
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  • WE WEREN'T SURE WHETHER
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  • HE WOULD MAKE IT
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  • FOR A LITTLE WHILE.
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  • AND SO NOW, MARTIN IS --
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  • HE'S DOING WELL.
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  • BUT HE LIVES WITH SOME PRETTY
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  • SUBSTANTIAL DISABILITIES.
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  • HE LIVES WITH A VISION DEFICIT
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  • AND A MEMORY DEFICIT.
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  • AND WE HAVE HAD TO,
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  • NOT ONLY JUST BECOME ACCLIMATED
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  • TO A DIFFERENT PACE
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  • AND A DIFFERENT-LOOKING LIFE
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  • THAN WHAT WE EXPECTED,
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  • LIKE A WHOLE NEW NORMAL;
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  • IT WAS A CHALLENGE FOR US,
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  • AS BELIEVERS, AS WELL.
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  • AND SO THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF,
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  • YOU KNOW, US TRYING TO PROCESS.
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  • GOD IS THIS REALLY THE GOOD AND
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  • PERFECT PLAN YOU HAD FOR US?
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  • KENDAL HAGEE: YEAH, EXACTLY.
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  • MATT HAGEE: WELL AND THAT'S
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  • KIND OF THE TITLE OF YOUR BOOK
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  • IN THREE SIMPLE WORDS,
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  • "I GIVE UP."
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  • LAURA STORY: YES.
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  • MATT HAGEE: BECAUSE SO MANY
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  • TIMES,
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  • AND I THINK IT'S VERY FITTING,
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  • NOT IN PERSONAL CONTEXT,
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  • BUT JUST IN THIS STORY;
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  • THAT YOU'RE YOUNG,
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  • YOU'RE MARRIED,
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  • AND ALL OF THE CONVERSATIONS
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  • YOU'RE HAVING
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  • ARE ABOUT POTENTIAL.
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  • LAURA STORY: YES.
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  • MATT HAGEE: AND NONE
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  • OF THE POTENTIAL OUTCOMES
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  • THAT YOU'RE DISCUSSING INCLUDE
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  • THESE SETBACKS.
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  • LAURA STORY: CORRECT.
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  • MATT HAGEE: AND SO WHEN YOU
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  • LOOK AT YOUR LIFE, YOU'RE LIKE,
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  • WELL YOU KNOW WHEN I GET TO 85,
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  • THEN I'M GOING TO HAVE TO
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  • STRUGGLE WITH SOME HEALTH
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  • ISSUES,
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  • NOT IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
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  • LAURA STORY: ABSOLUTELY.
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  • AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T.
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  • WHETHER THEY'VE BEEN THROUGH
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  • SOMETHING THIS TRAUMATIC
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  • OR NOT, EVERYONE HAS SOMETHING
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  • THAT THEY'VE PRAYED FOR
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  • THAT GOD HASN'T ANSWERED
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  • THE WAY THAT THEY THOUGHT
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  • OR HASN'T ANSWERED
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  • IN THE TIMEFRAME THEY EXPECTED.
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  • AND SO SHARING OUR STORY HAS
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  • BEEN A WAY TO TALK TO OTHER
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  • PEOPLE ABOUT, YOU KNOW,
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  • HOW DO WE HANDLE WHEN GOD ISN'T
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  • ANSWERING OUR PRAYERS
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  • ACCORDING TO OUR EXPECTATIONS.
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  • KENDAL HAGEE: YEAH.
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  • AND YOU SAID, "I GIVE UP."
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  • WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT TITLE
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  • AND YOU'RE THINKING;
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  • WAIT, THE WORD OF GOD SAYS
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  • DON'T GIVE UP.
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  • KEEP PRESSES THROUGH.
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  • WHY DID YOU CHOOSE "I GIVE UP"?
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  • LAURA STORY: WELL,
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  • ONE THING THAT I BEGAN --
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  • THE LORD JUST BEGAN TO SHOW ME
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  • ABOUT MYSELF IS I THINK --
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  • LIKE I WOULDN'T TELL YOU THAT
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  • I DO THIS, BUT I THINK SUBTLY,
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  • I TRY TO CONTROL ALL THE THINGS
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  • IN MY LIFE,
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  • THE PEOPLE IN MY LIFE.
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  • KENDAL HAGEE: MOMS.
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  • I THINK IT'S A MOM TRAIT
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  • THAT WE TRY TO CONTROL
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  • OUR KIDS, OUR HUSBANDS.
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  • WE CONTROL OUR SCHEDULES.
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  • MATT HAGEE: I REFRAIN
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  • FROM SPEAKING.
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  • I GIVE UP.
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  • LAURA STORY: YOU THINK,
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  • WELL, I MAY HAVE NOTICED
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  • THAT ABOUT YOU TWO.
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  • KENDAL HAGEE: YES.
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  • MATT HAGEE: YOU DON'T SAY?
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  • (LAUGHTER)
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  • LAURA STORY: BUT THE TRUTH IS
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  • I WILL TRY TO CONTROL THINGS.
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  • AND SUBTLY I BELIEVE THAT
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  • I CAN GAIN JOY AND PEACE
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  • THROUGH MY ABILITY TO CONTROL
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  • A SITUATION.
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  • BUT WHAT THE SCRIPTURES TELL US
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  • IS THE OPPOSITE;
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  • IS THAT WHEN WE LEARN
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  • TO GIVE UP OUR LIVES,
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  • THAT'S WHEN WE ACTUALLY
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  • FIND IT.
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  • AND -- AND WHEN I SAY,
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  • "I GIVE UP,"
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  • WHEN I TALK ABOUT SURRENDER,
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  • SURRENDER DOESN'T HAVE
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  • SUCH A NEGATIVE,
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  • YOU KNOW WHA-WHA CONNOTATION
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  • HERE.
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  • BUT THE TRUTH IS,
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  • IS SURRENDER IS --
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  • IT'S MUCH LESS THAN LIKE
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  • THE ELSA ON THE MOUNTAINSIDE.
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  • LET IT GO.
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  • LIKE IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE JUST
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  • THROWING OUR PROBLEMS INTO THIN
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  • AIR, HOPING THEY TURN OUT OKAY.
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  • SURRENDER IS PLACING THE THINGS
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  • THAT YOU ARE TOO HEAVY FOR US
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  • TO CARRY THAT WE WERE NEVER
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  • INTENDED TO CARRY,
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  • PLACING THEM IN THE HANDS
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  • OF A GOOD AND TRUSTWORTHY GOD.
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  • KENDAL HAGEE: THAT'S RIGHT.
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  • MATT HAGEE: I ALWAYS LOOK AT
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  • SURRENDER FROM THE CONTEXT
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  • OF STOP RESISTING.
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  • KENDAL HAGEE: OH, THAT'S GOOD.
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  • MATT HAGEE: IF I'M IN A WAR
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  • AND I TELL THE ENEMY,
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  • "I SURRENDER,"
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  • I'M SAYING,
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  • "I'M DONE RESISTING YOU."
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  • LAURA STORY: YES.
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  • MATT HAGEE: YOU KNOW?
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  • AND OFTEN TIMES WE USE
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  • "SURRENDER" IN A NEGATIVE
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  • CONTEXT,
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  • BUT PUT IT IN A SITUATION WHERE
  • 00:05:45.250 --> 00:05:46.200
  • SOMEBODY'S DROWNING IN A POOL;
  • 00:05:46.200 --> 00:05:48.150
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:05:48.150 --> 00:05:49.080
  • AND SOMEBODY JUMPS IN
  • 00:05:49.080 --> 00:05:50.020
  • TO RESCUE THEM.
  • 00:05:50.020 --> 00:05:51.170
  • ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE
  • 00:05:51.170 --> 00:05:52.050
  • RESCUER IS TAUGHT TO SAY IS,
  • 00:05:52.050 --> 00:05:53.210
  • "DON'T RESIST,"
  • 00:05:53.210 --> 00:05:54.150
  • "DON'T RESIST,"
  • 00:05:54.150 --> 00:05:55.040
  • "DON'T RESIST."
  • 00:05:55.040 --> 00:05:56.000
  • AND OFTEN TIMES IN OUR LIVES,
  • 00:05:56.000 --> 00:05:58.050
  • WHEN WE TELL GOD,
  • 00:05:58.050 --> 00:05:58.240
  • "I SURRENDER,"
  • 00:05:58.240 --> 00:05:59.160
  • WE'RE SAYING, "COME RESCUE ME.
  • 00:05:59.160 --> 00:06:01.210
  • YOU CAN SWIM ME OUT OF THIS
  • 00:06:01.210 --> 00:06:03.080
  • MESS,
  • 00:06:03.080 --> 00:06:03.250
  • BECAUSE I'M DONE RESISTING
  • 00:06:03.250 --> 00:06:04.220
  • YOUR PLAN."
  • 00:06:04.220 --> 00:06:05.140
  • AND THAT'S WHERE I HEAR,
  • 00:06:05.140 --> 00:06:06.260
  • "I GIVE UP" IS
  • 00:06:06.260 --> 00:06:08.060
  • "I'M DONE RESISTING YOU, GOD,
  • 00:06:08.060 --> 00:06:09.290
  • AND YOU KNOW WHEREVER
  • 00:06:09.290 --> 00:06:10.280
  • WE'RE GOING,
  • 00:06:10.280 --> 00:06:11.150
  • I TRUST YOU TO GET ME THERE."
  • 00:06:11.150 --> 00:06:12.240
  • LAURA STORY: THAT'S TRUE.
  • 00:06:12.240 --> 00:06:13.150
  • ONE OF THE GREATEST "I GIVE UP"
  • 00:06:13.150 --> 00:06:14.250
  • PRAYERS WE SEE
  • 00:06:14.250 --> 00:06:15.150
  • IN THE SCRIPTURES IS JESUS
  • 00:06:15.150 --> 00:06:17.020
  • IN THE GARDEN.
  • 00:06:17.020 --> 00:06:18.010
  • AND WHAT I LOVE IS,
  • 00:06:18.010 --> 00:06:18.260
  • YOU KNOW YOU KIND OF WONDER
  • 00:06:18.260 --> 00:06:20.040
  • WHY THE BIBLE INCLUDES
  • 00:06:20.040 --> 00:06:22.080
  • CERTAIN THINGS THAT IT DOES
  • 00:06:22.080 --> 00:06:23.250
  • AND OTHER --
  • 00:06:23.250 --> 00:06:24.220
  • MATT HAGEE: IT'S ALL THERE
  • 00:06:24.220 --> 00:06:25.100
  • ON PURPOSE.
  • 00:06:25.100 --> 00:06:25.250
  • LAURA STORY: I KNOW.
  • 00:06:25.250 --> 00:06:26.100
  • BUT I LOVE THE VULNERABILITY
  • 00:06:26.100 --> 00:06:27.100
  • OF JESUS SAYING,
  • 00:06:27.100 --> 00:06:29.000
  • IF THERE'S ANY OTHER WAY,
  • 00:06:29.000 --> 00:06:30.240
  • LET'S GO WITH THAT.
  • 00:06:30.240 --> 00:06:32.080
  • AND SO I LOVE JUST THE
  • 00:06:32.080 --> 00:06:33.140
  • HUMANITY THAT HE SHOWS THERE.
  • 00:06:33.140 --> 00:06:36.060
  • BUT ULTIMATELY HE SAYS,
  • 00:06:36.060 --> 00:06:37.080
  • "BUT NOT MY WILL
  • 00:06:37.080 --> 00:06:38.150
  • BUT YOURS BE DONE,"
  • 00:06:38.150 --> 00:06:39.130
  • AND SAYING, "GOD, I GIVE UP
  • 00:06:39.130 --> 00:06:41.170
  • BECAUSE I BELIEVE
  • 00:06:41.170 --> 00:06:42.150
  • THAT YOUR PLANS ARE FOR MY GOOD
  • 00:06:42.150 --> 00:06:44.140
  • AND FOR YOUR GREATER GLORY."
  • 00:06:44.140 --> 00:06:45.230
  • MATT HAGEE: WELL, AND I WANT
  • 00:06:45.230 --> 00:06:46.130
  • TO COME BACK TO THAT RIGHT
  • 00:06:46.130 --> 00:06:47.070
  • AFTER THIS BREAK
  • 00:06:47.070 --> 00:06:47.250
  • BECAUSE YOU SAID SOMETHING
  • 00:06:47.250 --> 00:06:49.140
  • THERE THAT I THINK
  • 00:06:49.140 --> 00:06:50.090
  • IS IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT,
  • 00:06:50.090 --> 00:06:51.130
  • BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY,
  • 00:06:51.130 --> 00:06:52.090
  • "WELL GOD DIDN'T RESPOND,"
  • 00:06:52.090 --> 00:06:54.020
  • BUT HE DID.
  • 00:06:54.020 --> 00:06:55.080
  • WE'LL TALK ABOUT MORE
  • 00:06:55.080 --> 00:06:56.110
  • OF THAT WITH LAURA STORY
  • 00:06:56.110 --> 00:06:57.100
  • WHEN WE COME BACK.
  • 00:06:57.100 --> 00:06:58.140
  • AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT
  • 00:06:58.140 --> 00:06:59.050
  • THERE ISN'T ONE MOMENT
  • 00:06:59.050 --> 00:07:00.020
  • OF YOUR LIFE THAT IS WASTED
  • 00:07:00.020 --> 00:07:01.080
  • WITHOUT PURPOSE.
  • 00:07:01.080 --> 00:07:02.110
  • YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
  • 00:07:02.110 --> 00:07:03.090
  • BELIEVE FOR GREATER THINGS EVEN
  • 00:07:03.090 --> 00:07:04.180
  • WHEN YOU ARE IN TROUBLED TIMES.
  • 00:07:04.180 --> 00:07:06.140
  • WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK HERE ON
  • 00:07:06.140 --> 00:07:07.080
  • "THE DIFFERENCE" AFTER THIS.
  • 00:07:07.080 --> 00:07:08.220
  • MUSIC
  • 00:07:08.220 --> 00:07:11.120
  • MUSIC
  • 00:07:11.120 --> 00:07:12.020
  • HAS THE WORLD OF GOD
  • 00:07:12.020 --> 00:07:13.070
  • BLESSED YOUR LIFE?
  • 00:07:13.070 --> 00:07:15.020
  • DO YOU WANT TO SHARE
  • 00:07:15.020 --> 00:07:16.000
  • YOUR BLESSINGS WITH OTHERS?
  • 00:07:16.000 --> 00:07:18.070
  • DO YOU DESIRE TO LEAVE
  • 00:07:18.070 --> 00:07:19.060
  • A LASTING LEGACY AND SHARE
  • 00:07:19.060 --> 00:07:20.290
  • THE PROMISE OF THE GOSPEL
  • 00:07:20.290 --> 00:07:22.100
  • WITH THE NEXT GENERATION?
  • 00:07:22.100 --> 00:07:24.060
  • PASTOR MATT HAGEE: OUR
  • 00:07:24.060 --> 00:07:24.250
  • VISION 20/20 CAMPAIGN
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  • IS JUST SUCH A PROMISE,
  • 00:07:26.020 --> 00:07:28.020
  • OUR OATH TO CONTINUE TO PREACH
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  • THE GOSPEL TO ALL
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  • OF THE WORLD
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  • AND TO EVERY GENERATION.
  • 00:07:32.070 --> 00:07:33.290
  • IT GIVES YOU THE OPPORTUNITY
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  • TO PLAY AN UNDENIABLE ROLE
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  • IN MAKING THIS PROMISE
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  • A REALITY.
  • 00:07:39.110 --> 00:07:40.220
  • EMBRACE YOUR RESPONSIBILITY
  • 00:07:40.220 --> 00:07:42.120
  • TO CARRY THE WORD OF GOD.
  • 00:07:42.120 --> 00:07:44.090
  • FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF ANY AMOUNT,
  • 00:07:44.090 --> 00:07:45.270
  • YOU WILL RECEIVE THE
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  • "OUR GOD: NEW BEGINNING"
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  • TEACHING
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  • AND A VISION 20/20 JOURNAL.
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  • FOR YOUR GENEROUS GIFT OF $250
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  • A SIGNED PROPHECY BIBLE,
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  • AND THE BIBLE IN CHRONOLOGICAL
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  • ORDER, VOLUME 1,
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  • WITH STUDY GUIDE.
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  • TO GIVE YOUR SPECIAL YEAR-END,
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  • AS 2019 DRAWS TO A CLOSE,
  • 00:08:09.210 --> 00:08:11.240
  • REMEMBER THE EVENTS
  • 00:08:11.240 --> 00:08:12.170
  • OF THE PAST YEAR
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  • AND EMBRACE THE PROMISE
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  • OF A NEW YEAR.
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  • LET PASTOR MATT INSPIRE YOU
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  • WITH A WEEK OF DEVOTIONALS,
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  • AS YOU SAY "GOOD-BYE" TO 2019
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  • AND "HELLO" TO 2020.
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  • EACH DAY,
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  • YOU'LL RECEIVE A SPECIAL VIDEO
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  • THAT WILL REFRESH YOUR SPIRIT
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  • AND PREPARE YOU
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  • FOR GOD'S BLESSING
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  • IN THE NEW YEAR.
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  • SIGN UP BY GOING TO
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  • JHM.ORG/INSPIRATION,
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  • AND LOOK FORWARD TO
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  • YOUR FIRST DEVOTIONAL
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  • ON THURSDAY, DECEMBER 26.
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  • EMBRACE THE PROMISE
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  • OF A NEW YEAR.
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  • MUSIC
  • 00:08:38.000 --> 00:08:40.030
  • KENDAL HAGEE: WELCOME BACK TO
  • 00:08:40.030 --> 00:08:41.020
  • "THE DIFFERENCE."
  • 00:08:41.020 --> 00:08:41.190
  • WE'RE HERE WITH LAURA STORY,
  • 00:08:41.190 --> 00:08:42.110
  • TALKING ABOUT LIVING
  • 00:08:42.110 --> 00:08:43.190
  • A SURRENDERED LIFE,
  • 00:08:43.190 --> 00:08:44.220
  • WHICH TO ME, THAT'S --
  • 00:08:44.220 --> 00:08:45.290
  • THAT'S EASIER SAID THAN DONE.
  • 00:08:45.290 --> 00:08:47.190
  • SURRENDERING YOUR LIFE
  • 00:08:47.190 --> 00:08:49.020
  • TAKES TIME.
  • 00:08:49.020 --> 00:08:50.020
  • IT'S NOT -- SO LIKE YOU WERE
  • 00:08:50.020 --> 00:08:51.020
  • TALKING ABOUT WE HAVE TO WAIT
  • 00:08:51.020 --> 00:08:52.120
  • AND BE PATIENT ON THE LORD.
  • 00:08:52.120 --> 00:08:53.200
  • MATT HAGEE: AND STOP RESISTING.
  • 00:08:53.200 --> 00:08:55.050
  • YOU KNOW YOU WERE TALKING IN
  • 00:08:55.050 --> 00:08:56.230
  • OUR LAST SEGMENT ABOUT JESUS'
  • 00:08:56.230 --> 00:08:58.130
  • CONVERSATION IN THE GARDEN
  • 00:08:58.130 --> 00:08:59.100
  • OF GETHSEMANE.
  • 00:08:59.100 --> 00:09:00.020
  • LAURA STORY: YES.
  • 00:09:00.020 --> 00:09:00.200
  • MATT HAGEE: AND IT IS
  • 00:09:00.200 --> 00:09:01.150
  • A VERY TRANSPARENT AND IT IS
  • 00:09:01.150 --> 00:09:03.220
  • A VERY VULNERABLE SITUATION,
  • 00:09:03.220 --> 00:09:05.270
  • BECAUSE HERE'S REALLY THE
  • 00:09:05.270 --> 00:09:07.260
  • TWO SIDES OF IT; FULLY GOD.
  • 00:09:07.260 --> 00:09:10.030
  • LAURA STORY: YES.
  • 00:09:10.030 --> 00:09:10.210
  • MATT HAGEE: HE KNEW THE PLAN.
  • 00:09:10.210 --> 00:09:11.290
  • KENDAL HAGEE: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:09:11.290 --> 00:09:12.160
  • MATT HAGEE: FULLY GOD,
  • 00:09:12.160 --> 00:09:13.000
  • THERE WAS NO QUESTION
  • 00:09:13.000 --> 00:09:13.220
  • IN HIS MIND
  • 00:09:13.220 --> 00:09:14.090
  • THIS IS GOD'S PERFECT WILL.
  • 00:09:14.090 --> 00:09:15.280
  • HE EVEN SAYS IT SEVERAL TIMES
  • 00:09:15.280 --> 00:09:17.030
  • IN HIS LIFE.
  • 00:09:17.030 --> 00:09:17.290
  • "I MUST BE OFFERED UP."
  • 00:09:17.290 --> 00:09:19.190
  • "I HAVE TO DO THIS."
  • 00:09:19.190 --> 00:09:21.090
  • AND SO IN HIS FULLY HUMAN SIDE,
  • 00:09:22.060 --> 00:09:25.060
  • HE'S SITTING THERE SAYING,
  • 00:09:25.060 --> 00:09:26.170
  • "I DON'T WANT TO."
  • 00:09:26.170 --> 00:09:27.160
  • LAURA STORY: YES.
  • 00:09:27.160 --> 00:09:28.060
  • MATT HAGEE: AND I THINK
  • 00:09:28.060 --> 00:09:28.270
  • FOR A LOT OF CHRISTIANS --
  • 00:09:28.270 --> 00:09:30.080
  • I KNOW IN MY LIFE,
  • 00:09:30.080 --> 00:09:31.000
  • THAT CREATED A LOT OF FREEDOM
  • 00:09:31.000 --> 00:09:32.210
  • FOR ME WHEN I RECOGNIZED I
  • 00:09:32.210 --> 00:09:34.090
  • KNEW WHAT GOD WANTED ME TO DO;
  • 00:09:34.090 --> 00:09:36.140
  • I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT.
  • 00:09:36.140 --> 00:09:38.030
  • I MEAN AND IN YOUR SITUATION,
  • 00:09:38.030 --> 00:09:40.020
  • YOU'RE SITTING THERE SAYING,
  • 00:09:40.020 --> 00:09:41.060
  • "GOD, I DON'T WANT TO DO THIS.
  • 00:09:41.060 --> 00:09:42.190
  • I DON'T WANT REHAB.
  • 00:09:42.190 --> 00:09:43.180
  • I DON'T WANT TO REBUILD
  • 00:09:43.180 --> 00:09:44.120
  • MY LIFE.
  • 00:09:44.120 --> 00:09:44.260
  • I DON'T WANT TO REDEFINE
  • 00:09:44.260 --> 00:09:45.210
  • NORMAL."
  • 00:09:45.210 --> 00:09:46.080
  • YOU CAN SIT HERE NOW
  • 00:09:46.080 --> 00:09:47.290
  • WITH THIS COUNTENANCE,
  • 00:09:47.290 --> 00:09:49.020
  • BECAUSE YOU'VE ENDURED A LOT OF
  • 00:09:49.020 --> 00:09:50.270
  • IT WITHOUT THE SMILE; YOU KNOW,
  • 00:09:50.270 --> 00:09:53.100
  • AND DECIDED
  • 00:09:53.100 --> 00:09:54.050
  • WITHIN YOUR OWN SELF;
  • 00:09:54.050 --> 00:09:55.180
  • THIS IS WHAT GOD HAS PLANNED
  • 00:09:55.180 --> 00:09:57.020
  • EVEN THOUGH I DON'T WANT IT
  • 00:09:57.020 --> 00:09:58.030
  • TO BE.
  • 00:09:58.030 --> 00:09:58.190
  • LAURA STORY: YES.
  • 00:09:58.190 --> 00:09:59.190
  • MATT HAGEE: AND TO THAT END,
  • 00:09:59.190 --> 00:10:01.110
  • JESUS ASKED THE QUESTION,
  • 00:10:01.110 --> 00:10:03.220
  • WHICH IS OKAY TO ASK.
  • 00:10:03.220 --> 00:10:05.150
  • BUT PEOPLE SAY,
  • 00:10:05.150 --> 00:10:06.190
  • "BUT GOD DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING."
  • 00:10:06.190 --> 00:10:07.230
  • I SAID, "YES, HE DID."
  • 00:10:07.230 --> 00:10:09.030
  • I SAID, "THE BIBLE'S JUST GOT
  • 00:10:09.030 --> 00:10:09.230
  • A SEMICOLON RIGHT THERE."
  • 00:10:09.230 --> 00:10:11.170
  • AND I KNOW IN MY RELATIONSHIP
  • 00:10:11.170 --> 00:10:12.270
  • WITH MY FATHER,
  • 00:10:12.270 --> 00:10:14.140
  • I COULD ASK HIM A QUESTION.
  • 00:10:14.140 --> 00:10:15.060
  • "HEY DAD, CAN I DO THIS?"
  • 00:10:15.060 --> 00:10:16.170
  • AND I MEAN HE'S SITTING
  • 00:10:16.170 --> 00:10:17.100
  • RIGHT THERE.
  • 00:10:17.100 --> 00:10:17.260
  • I KNOW HE HEARD ME AND HE JUST
  • 00:10:17.260 --> 00:10:19.090
  • FLIPS THE PAGE ON THE PAPER.
  • 00:10:19.090 --> 00:10:20.190
  • (LAUGHTER)
  • 00:10:20.190 --> 00:10:22.050
  • LAURA STORY: THAT'S A DAD THING
  • 00:10:22.050 --> 00:10:23.000
  • TO DO.
  • 00:10:23.000 --> 00:10:23.240
  • MATT HAGEE: HIS SILENCE
  • 00:10:23.240 --> 00:10:24.140
  • IS A RESPONSE.
  • 00:10:24.140 --> 00:10:25.070
  • LAURA STORY: YES.
  • 00:10:25.070 --> 00:10:25.250
  • MATT HAGEE: AND HIS SILENCE
  • 00:10:25.250 --> 00:10:26.150
  • WOULD BASICALLY COMMUNICATE TO
  • 00:10:26.150 --> 00:10:27.150
  • ME; DON'T ASK AGAIN; YOU KNOW?
  • 00:10:27.150 --> 00:10:30.140
  • AND WHEN JESUS SAID, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:10:30.140 --> 00:10:32.090
  • "FATHER, IF THERE'S ANY WAY,
  • 00:10:32.090 --> 00:10:33.160
  • CAN WE DO THIS ANOTHER WAY?
  • 00:10:33.160 --> 00:10:34.170
  • CAN THIS CUP BASS FROM ME;"
  • 00:10:34.280 --> 00:10:37.280
  • IT'S AS IF HEAVEN SAID LET'S
  • 00:10:37.280 --> 00:10:39.240
  • NOT HAVE THIS CONVERSATION
  • 00:10:39.240 --> 00:10:40.180
  • AGAIN.
  • 00:10:40.180 --> 00:10:41.070
  • YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED
  • 00:10:41.070 --> 00:10:41.280
  • TO DO.
  • 00:10:41.280 --> 00:10:42.260
  • AND HE THEN SUBMITTED AND SAID,
  • 00:10:42.260 --> 00:10:44.180
  • "I SURRENDER," I GIVE UP.
  • 00:10:44.180 --> 00:10:46.210
  • "NEVERTHELESS,
  • 00:10:46.210 --> 00:10:47.110
  • NOT MY WILL BUT THINE BE DONE."
  • 00:10:47.110 --> 00:10:49.070
  • AND SO YOU KNOW THERE'S A LOT
  • 00:10:49.070 --> 00:10:50.030
  • OF TIMES IN CHRISTIAN FAITH
  • 00:10:50.030 --> 00:10:51.040
  • WHERE WE SAY,
  • 00:10:51.040 --> 00:10:51.200
  • "WELL GOD ISN'T TAKING TO ME."
  • 00:10:51.200 --> 00:10:53.190
  • MAYBE HE'S TELLING YOU,
  • 00:10:53.190 --> 00:10:54.240
  • "TURN THE PAGE.
  • 00:10:54.240 --> 00:10:55.240
  • GET ON THE NEXT CONVERSATION,
  • 00:10:55.240 --> 00:10:56.280
  • BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY TALKED
  • 00:10:56.280 --> 00:10:57.170
  • ABOUT THAT."
  • 00:10:57.170 --> 00:10:58.180
  • LAURA STORY: YEAH, OR SO OFTEN,
  • 00:10:58.180 --> 00:11:00.040
  • WE'RE NOT HEARING HIS RESPONSE
  • 00:11:00.040 --> 00:11:01.030
  • BECAUSE IT LOOKS SO DIFFERENT
  • 00:11:01.030 --> 00:11:02.060
  • THAN WHAT WE THINK.
  • 00:11:02.060 --> 00:11:03.020
  • MATT HAGEE: WE DON'T WANT TO.
  • 00:11:03.020 --> 00:11:03.270
  • (LAUGHTER)
  • 00:11:03.270 --> 00:11:04.270
  • KENDAL HAGEE: NO,
  • 00:11:04.270 --> 00:11:05.180
  • GOD'S NOT TELLING ME THAT.
  • 00:11:05.180 --> 00:11:06.140
  • LAURA STORY: I KNOW.
  • 00:11:06.140 --> 00:11:07.030
  • KENDAL HAGEE: I THINK IT'S
  • 00:11:07.030 --> 00:11:07.190
  • THIS WAY.
  • 00:11:07.190 --> 00:11:08.040
  • LAURA STORY: AND IT'S TAKEN --
  • 00:11:08.040 --> 00:11:08.280
  • IT'S TAKEN A LOT FOR ME TO COME
  • 00:11:08.280 --> 00:11:10.290
  • TO A PLACE OF SAYING,
  • 00:11:10.290 --> 00:11:12.210
  • "GOD, I ACCEPT AND DELIGHT
  • 00:11:12.240 --> 00:11:15.240
  • THAT THIS IS YOUR PLAN,
  • 00:11:15.240 --> 00:11:17.230
  • YOUR PLAN FOR OUR LIFE."
  • 00:11:17.230 --> 00:11:18.270
  • AND I THINK ABOUT
  • 00:11:18.270 --> 00:11:20.030
  • EVEN THOUGH GOD'S PLAN HAS NOT,
  • 00:11:20.030 --> 00:11:22.250
  • AT THIS POINT,
  • 00:11:22.250 --> 00:11:23.140
  • HAS NOT INCLUDED COMPLETE
  • 00:11:23.140 --> 00:11:24.170
  • HEALING FOR MY HUSBAND.
  • 00:11:24.170 --> 00:11:25.250
  • AND THAT'S A HARD THING
  • 00:11:25.250 --> 00:11:26.160
  • TO STRUGGLE THROUGH.
  • 00:11:26.160 --> 00:11:29.160
  • BUT SEEING THE AMOUNT
  • 00:11:29.160 --> 00:11:31.050
  • OF BLESSINGS THAT GOD
  • 00:11:31.050 --> 00:11:33.010
  • HAS BROUGHT TO US,
  • 00:11:33.010 --> 00:11:35.030
  • THE THINGS --
  • 00:11:35.030 --> 00:11:35.270
  • KENDAL HAGEE: FOUR CHILDREN.
  • 00:11:35.270 --> 00:11:36.160
  • I WAS LIKE, WITH FOUR CHILDREN.
  • 00:11:36.160 --> 00:11:38.010
  • LAURA STORY: WE WOULD NEVER
  • 00:11:38.010 --> 00:11:38.280
  • IN A MILLION YEARS HAVE THOUGHT
  • 00:11:38.280 --> 00:11:39.280
  • THAT WE WOULD HAVE FOUR KIDS.
  • 00:11:39.280 --> 00:11:40.290
  • AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT
  • 00:11:40.290 --> 00:11:42.080
  • WE -- WE HAD STRUGGLED WITH
  • 00:11:42.080 --> 00:11:43.100
  • IN FERTILITY FOR YEAR.
  • 00:11:43.100 --> 00:11:44.120
  • AND WE REALLY LAID THAT DOWN
  • 00:11:44.120 --> 00:11:46.080
  • AT JESUS' FEET, AND SAID,
  • 00:11:46.080 --> 00:11:47.050
  • "OKAY; I SURRENDER THIS."
  • 00:11:47.050 --> 00:11:48.190
  • AND THAT WAS SOMETHING
  • 00:11:48.190 --> 00:11:49.170
  • WHERE GOD -- IT KIND OF CAME
  • 00:11:49.170 --> 00:11:51.260
  • BACK AS HIM DOING SOMETHING,
  • 00:11:51.260 --> 00:11:53.200
  • LIKE HE SAYS IN HIS WORD,
  • 00:11:53.200 --> 00:11:54.150
  • "EXCEEDINGLY MORE THAN WE COULD
  • 00:11:54.150 --> 00:11:56.060
  • HAVE EVER THOUGHT OR IMAGINED."
  • 00:11:56.060 --> 00:11:57.210
  • AND SO SOME OF THESE DREAMS
  • 00:11:57.210 --> 00:11:59.080
  • WE LAID DOWN, AND GOD SAYS,
  • 00:11:59.080 --> 00:12:00.230
  • "NOT YET" OR "NO."
  • 00:12:00.230 --> 00:12:01.290
  • AND SOME OF THESE THINGS,
  • 00:12:01.290 --> 00:12:03.000
  • WE GET TO A POINT OF
  • 00:12:03.000 --> 00:12:03.210
  • SURRENDERING, AND GOD SAYS,
  • 00:12:03.210 --> 00:12:04.220
  • "YEAH, I WOULD LOVE TO MAKE
  • 00:12:04.220 --> 00:12:07.060
  • THIS A REALITY IN YOUR LIFE."
  • 00:12:07.060 --> 00:12:08.170
  • KENDAL HAGEE: THAT'S AWESOME.
  • 00:12:08.170 --> 00:12:09.170
  • MATT HAGEE: YOU KNOW I THINK
  • 00:12:09.170 --> 00:12:10.170
  • OFTEN TIMES,
  • 00:12:10.170 --> 00:12:11.140
  • YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NOT
  • 00:12:11.140 --> 00:12:12.080
  • HEARING GOD OR NOT SEEING GOD;
  • 00:12:12.080 --> 00:12:14.070
  • THAT'S JUST OUR PERSPECTIVE
  • 00:12:14.070 --> 00:12:15.100
  • OF IT.
  • 00:12:15.100 --> 00:12:16.000
  • LAURA STORY: YES.
  • 00:12:16.000 --> 00:12:16.230
  • MATT HAGEE: AND YOU KNOW
  • 00:12:16.230 --> 00:12:18.010
  • TO THE STATEMENT ABOUT
  • 00:12:18.010 --> 00:12:18.250
  • YOUR HUSBAND'S HEALING, YET.
  • 00:12:18.250 --> 00:12:21.170
  • ONE OF THE THINGS I TELL PEOPLE
  • 00:12:21.170 --> 00:12:22.120
  • ALL THE TIME; I SAID,
  • 00:12:22.120 --> 00:12:23.200
  • "YOU HAVE TO EMBRACE
  • 00:12:23.200 --> 00:12:24.160
  • THE ETERNITY OF YOUR REALITY,
  • 00:12:24.160 --> 00:12:27.010
  • BECAUSE IF WE HAVE CHRISTIAN
  • 00:12:27.010 --> 00:12:28.280
  • FAITH AND JESUS CHRIST
  • 00:12:28.280 --> 00:12:30.060
  • IS OUR SAVIOR,
  • 00:12:30.060 --> 00:12:30.270
  • WE WILL EXIST SOMEWHERE
  • 00:12:30.270 --> 00:12:32.290
  • FOREVER."
  • 00:12:32.290 --> 00:12:34.220
  • AND EVEN IN THE RELATIONSHIP
  • 00:12:34.220 --> 00:12:36.080
  • THAT GOD HAD WITH ABRAHAM.
  • 00:12:36.080 --> 00:12:38.020
  • HE TOLD ABRAHAM;
  • 00:12:38.020 --> 00:12:38.260
  • HE SAID, "IF YOU FOLLOW ME,
  • 00:12:38.260 --> 00:12:40.120
  • I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU A CITY
  • 00:12:40.120 --> 00:12:41.290
  • WHOSE BUILDER AND MAKER
  • 00:12:41.290 --> 00:12:42.220
  • IS GOD."
  • 00:12:42.220 --> 00:12:44.140
  • THAT CITY HASN'T SHOWN UP YET.
  • 00:12:44.140 --> 00:12:46.250
  • THAT CITY DOESN'T SOME UP
  • 00:12:46.250 --> 00:12:47.270
  • UNTIL REVELATION 21.
  • 00:12:47.270 --> 00:12:50.130
  • WE HAVEN'T SEEN THAT CITY.
  • 00:12:50.130 --> 00:12:51.260
  • OUR CHILDREN HAVEN'T SEEN
  • 00:12:51.260 --> 00:12:52.220
  • THAT CITY.
  • 00:12:52.220 --> 00:12:53.130
  • IF GOD TARRIES AND THIS WORLD
  • 00:12:53.130 --> 00:12:54.160
  • GOES ANOTHER THOUSAND YEARS,
  • 00:12:54.160 --> 00:12:55.150
  • OUR GREAT GREAT GRANDCHILDREN
  • 00:12:55.150 --> 00:12:56.210
  • WON'T SEE THIS CITY.
  • 00:12:56.210 --> 00:12:57.280
  • BUT IN THE END OF ALL THINGS,
  • 00:12:57.280 --> 00:12:59.060
  • GOD SAYS,
  • 00:12:59.060 --> 00:12:59.230
  • "AND HERE COMES THE
  • 00:12:59.230 --> 00:13:00.140
  • NEW JERUSALEM OUT OF HEAVEN,"
  • 00:13:00.140 --> 00:13:02.030
  • AND THE FIRST PERSON I THINK
  • 00:13:02.030 --> 00:13:03.040
  • GOD'S GOING TO WALK OVER
  • 00:13:03.040 --> 00:13:04.000
  • AND BUMP ON THE SHOULDER,
  • 00:13:04.000 --> 00:13:04.280
  • AND SAY, "ABRAHAM --"
  • 00:13:04.280 --> 00:13:05.290
  • LAURA STORY: LOOK OVER HERE.
  • 00:13:05.290 --> 00:13:06.280
  • MATT HAGEE: "THERE IT IS.
  • 00:13:06.280 --> 00:13:07.240
  • YOU KNOW WE'VE BEEN IN
  • 00:13:07.240 --> 00:13:08.150
  • THIS THING A WHILE TOGETHER
  • 00:13:08.150 --> 00:13:09.230
  • AND HERE IT IS."
  • 00:13:09.230 --> 00:13:10.120
  • AND SO WHEN THERE ARE NATURAL
  • 00:13:10.120 --> 00:13:11.190
  • THINGS THAT WE DON'T GET
  • 00:13:11.190 --> 00:13:12.260
  • WHEN WE WANT THEM,
  • 00:13:12.260 --> 00:13:14.100
  • YOU KNOW WE HAVE TO EMBRACE THE
  • 00:13:14.100 --> 00:13:15.220
  • REALITY THAT WE'LL HAVE THEM
  • 00:13:15.220 --> 00:13:17.210
  • IN ETERNITY; YOU KNOW?
  • 00:13:17.210 --> 00:13:18.200
  • I MEAN I'VE LOST FAMILY MEMBERS
  • 00:13:18.200 --> 00:13:20.290
  • TO ILLNESS.
  • 00:13:20.290 --> 00:13:21.130
  • I'VE LOST CHURCH MEMBERS
  • 00:13:21.130 --> 00:13:22.210
  • TO CRISIS.
  • 00:13:22.210 --> 00:13:23.120
  • I'VE SEEN THINGS HAPPEN THAT
  • 00:13:23.120 --> 00:13:24.210
  • NATURALLY YOU CANNOT EXPLAIN.
  • 00:13:24.210 --> 00:13:26.240
  • BUT YOU HAVE TO EMBRACE THAT
  • 00:13:26.240 --> 00:13:27.270
  • THERE'S COMING A DAY WHEN I'M
  • 00:13:27.270 --> 00:13:28.230
  • GOING TO SEE THAT INDIVIDUAL
  • 00:13:28.230 --> 00:13:29.290
  • AGAIN,
  • 00:13:29.290 --> 00:13:30.240
  • AND MY GRANDFATHER'S NOT GOING
  • 00:13:30.240 --> 00:13:31.270
  • TO HAVE CANCER.
  • 00:13:31.270 --> 00:13:32.280
  • I'M GOING TO SEE THAT
  • 00:13:32.280 --> 00:13:33.170
  • INDIVIDUAL AGAIN,
  • 00:13:33.170 --> 00:13:34.040
  • AND THAT CHILD'S NOT GOING TO
  • 00:13:34.040 --> 00:13:34.280
  • BE BURDENED WITH THAT SICKNESS.
  • 00:13:34.280 --> 00:13:36.010
  • I'M GOING TO SEE
  • 00:13:36.010 --> 00:13:36.240
  • THAT INDIVIDUAL AGAIN,
  • 00:13:36.240 --> 00:13:37.120
  • AND THE BLINDNESS,
  • 00:13:37.120 --> 00:13:38.030
  • AND THE DEAFNESS,
  • 00:13:38.030 --> 00:13:38.270
  • AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS
  • 00:13:38.270 --> 00:13:39.120
  • ARE GOING TO BE GONE.
  • 00:13:39.120 --> 00:13:40.230
  • AND THAT EXISTENCE IS GOING
  • 00:13:40.230 --> 00:13:42.030
  • TO BE A LOT MORE PERMANENT
  • 00:13:42.030 --> 00:13:43.110
  • THAN THIS ONE.
  • 00:13:43.110 --> 00:13:44.040
  • KENDAL HAGEE: AMEN.
  • 00:13:44.040 --> 00:13:44.240
  • LAURA STORY: YES.
  • 00:13:44.240 --> 00:13:45.120
  • MATT HAGEE: AND IT'S
  • 00:13:45.120 --> 00:13:46.010
  • A DIFFICULT THING TO BALANCE
  • 00:13:46.010 --> 00:13:46.260
  • THAT IN YOUR BRAIN SOMETIMES,
  • 00:13:46.260 --> 00:13:48.150
  • BUT YOU HAVE TO WHENEVER YOU
  • 00:13:48.150 --> 00:13:49.170
  • GET TO A POINT OF SAYING,
  • 00:13:49.170 --> 00:13:50.100
  • "GOD, I GIVE UP."
  • 00:13:50.100 --> 00:13:52.090
  • LAURA STORY: I GIVE UP.
  • 00:13:52.090 --> 00:13:52.250
  • AND I THINK WHAT THIS
  • 00:13:52.250 --> 00:13:53.170
  • IS REVEALING TO ME IS THAT
  • 00:13:53.170 --> 00:13:55.180
  • THE CORE OF SO MUCH
  • 00:13:55.180 --> 00:13:56.160
  • OF MY PRAYER LIFE HAD BEEN
  • 00:13:56.160 --> 00:13:57.290
  • DO IT MY WAY.
  • 00:13:57.290 --> 00:13:59.140
  • MATT HAGEE: HERE'S MY ORDER.
  • 00:13:59.140 --> 00:14:00.110
  • LAURA STORY: EXACTLY.
  • 00:14:00.110 --> 00:14:01.120
  • RATHER THAN,
  • 00:14:01.120 --> 00:14:01.280
  • "NOT MY WILL
  • 00:14:01.280 --> 00:14:02.140
  • BUT YOURS BE DONE."
  • 00:14:02.140 --> 00:14:03.160
  • AND WHEN WE REALLY COME
  • 00:14:03.160 --> 00:14:04.090
  • TO A PLACE OF SAYING, GOD,
  • 00:14:04.090 --> 00:14:06.100
  • I WANT -- ABOVE ME GETTING
  • 00:14:06.100 --> 00:14:07.160
  • MY WAY, I WANT YOUR WILL,"
  • 00:14:07.160 --> 00:14:09.180
  • THAT'S WHEN WE REALLY CAN BE
  • 00:14:09.180 --> 00:14:10.270
  • OPEN HANDED ABOUT OUR PRAYERS
  • 00:14:10.270 --> 00:14:12.220
  • AND SAY,
  • 00:14:12.220 --> 00:14:13.050
  • "I GIVE UP AND I'M GOING
  • 00:14:13.050 --> 00:14:14.010
  • TO TRUST YOU WITH IT."
  • 00:14:14.010 --> 00:14:15.150
  • MATT HAGEE: AND YOU KNOW
  • 00:14:15.150 --> 00:14:16.130
  • I OFTEN HAVE TO BALANCE
  • 00:14:16.130 --> 00:14:17.190
  • THESE THINGS IN MY LIFE
  • 00:14:17.190 --> 00:14:18.220
  • BY ASKING THIS QUESTION;
  • 00:14:18.220 --> 00:14:20.160
  • AM I ASKING GOD TO INCREASE
  • 00:14:20.160 --> 00:14:22.060
  • MY LIFE OR AM I USING MY LIFE
  • 00:14:22.060 --> 00:14:24.050
  • TO INCREASE HIS KINGDOM?
  • 00:14:24.050 --> 00:14:25.140
  • LAURA STORY: UH,
  • 00:14:25.140 --> 00:14:25.290
  • THAT'S SUCH A GREAT WAY
  • 00:14:25.290 --> 00:14:26.220
  • TO THINK ABOUT IT.
  • 00:14:26.220 --> 00:14:27.260
  • MATT HAGEE: BECAUSE
  • 00:14:27.260 --> 00:14:28.140
  • HIS PURPOSE --
  • 00:14:28.140 --> 00:14:29.080
  • LAURA STORY: I HAVE TO WRITE
  • 00:14:29.080 --> 00:14:29.260
  • THAT DOWN.
  • 00:14:29.260 --> 00:14:30.120
  • (LAUGHTER)
  • 00:14:30.120 --> 00:14:30.280
  • MATT HAGEE: HIS PURPOSE IS
  • 00:14:30.280 --> 00:14:31.180
  • TO LEVERAGE ME FOR THE GROWTH
  • 00:14:31.180 --> 00:14:32.160
  • OF HIS KINGDOM.
  • 00:14:32.160 --> 00:14:33.270
  • AND SO MANY TIMES,
  • 00:14:33.270 --> 00:14:35.030
  • WHAT I'M WANTS TO SAY IS,
  • 00:14:35.030 --> 00:14:36.050
  • "GOD, WOULD YOU DO THIS FOR ME,
  • 00:14:36.050 --> 00:14:38.160
  • BECAUSE I'LL GIVE YOU
  • 00:14:38.160 --> 00:14:39.020
  • THE GLORY?"
  • 00:14:39.020 --> 00:14:40.060
  • AND HE'S LIKE,
  • 00:14:40.060 --> 00:14:40.240
  • "YOU AIN'T GIVING ME THE GLORY
  • 00:14:40.240 --> 00:14:41.180
  • RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:14:41.180 --> 00:14:42.190
  • IN YOUR REQUEST,
  • 00:14:42.190 --> 00:14:43.140
  • YOU'RE ASKING ME TO PIN A STAR
  • 00:14:43.140 --> 00:14:44.280
  • ON YOUR CHEST."
  • 00:14:44.280 --> 00:14:45.220
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:14:45.220 --> 00:14:46.160
  • AND I'M LIKE, "BUT DEPUTIZE ME.
  • 00:14:46.160 --> 00:14:47.290
  • I MEAN I'LL GET A POSSE
  • 00:14:47.290 --> 00:14:48.290
  • TOGETHER.
  • 00:14:48.290 --> 00:14:49.150
  • WE'LL GO DO IT FOR JESUS."
  • 00:14:49.150 --> 00:14:51.060
  • AND HE'S LIKE, "UH-UH."
  • 00:14:51.060 --> 00:14:52.090
  • LAURA STORY: SOUNDS A LOT LIKE
  • 00:14:52.090 --> 00:14:53.050
  • PETER.
  • 00:14:53.050 --> 00:14:54.020
  • (LAUGHTER)
  • 00:14:54.020 --> 00:14:54.160
  • MATT HAGEE: I'M THERE.
  • 00:14:54.160 --> 00:14:55.200
  • WALK ON WATER?
  • 00:14:55.200 --> 00:14:56.080
  • WHEN?
  • 00:14:56.080 --> 00:14:56.210
  • LET'S GO.
  • 00:14:56.210 --> 00:14:57.250
  • YOU KNOW NOBODY ELSE DOES.
  • 00:14:57.250 --> 00:14:59.000
  • (LAUGHTER)
  • 00:14:59.000 --> 00:14:59.220
  • MATT HAGEE: BUT WHEN WE COME
  • 00:14:59.220 --> 00:15:00.120
  • BACK,
  • 00:15:00.120 --> 00:15:00.290
  • LAURA AND KENDAL ARE KICKING ME
  • 00:15:00.290 --> 00:15:02.170
  • OUT OF THE CONVERSATION,
  • 00:15:02.170 --> 00:15:03.270
  • AND THEY'RE TAKING IT OVER TO
  • 00:15:03.270 --> 00:15:04.290
  • KENDAL'S CORNER.
  • 00:15:04.290 --> 00:15:06.060
  • YOU KNOW THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT
  • 00:15:06.060 --> 00:15:06.280
  • CONTROL EARLIER,
  • 00:15:06.280 --> 00:15:08.010
  • AND I'M GOING TO GIVE UP
  • 00:15:08.010 --> 00:15:10.000
  • AND LET THEM TAKE CONTROL.
  • 00:15:10.000 --> 00:15:11.190
  • BUT IN THE MEANTIME,
  • 00:15:11.190 --> 00:15:12.180
  • WE WANT YOU TO LISTEN TO
  • 00:15:12.180 --> 00:15:13.100
  • A COUPLE OF OUR DIFFERENCE
  • 00:15:13.100 --> 00:15:13.290
  • MAKERS,
  • 00:15:13.290 --> 00:15:14.130
  • DAVID AND JASON BENHAM.
  • 00:15:14.130 --> 00:15:16.040
  • MUSIC
  • 00:15:20.000 --> 00:15:23.000
  • HI.
  • 00:15:23.000 --> 00:15:23.200
  • WE'RE THE BENHAM BROTHERS.
  • 00:15:23.200 --> 00:15:24.090
  • I'M DAVID.
  • 00:15:24.090 --> 00:15:24.270
  • THIS IS MY LITTLE BROTHER,
  • 00:15:24.270 --> 00:15:25.290
  • JASON.
  • 00:15:25.290 --> 00:15:26.130
  • I'M TWO MINUTES OLDER AND A LOT
  • 00:15:26.130 --> 00:15:27.200
  • BETTER LOOKING, AS YOU CAN SEE.
  • 00:15:27.200 --> 00:15:29.060
  • JASON AND I WANT TO ENCOURAGE
  • 00:15:29.060 --> 00:15:30.130
  • YOU TODAY TO BE BOLD
  • 00:15:30.130 --> 00:15:31.170
  • FOR YOUR FAITH,
  • 00:15:31.170 --> 00:15:32.070
  • BECAUSE NOW IS OUR MOMENT
  • 00:15:32.070 --> 00:15:34.010
  • IN HISTORY WHERE IT'S VERY
  • 00:15:34.010 --> 00:15:35.250
  • IMPORTANT THAT CHRISTIANS
  • 00:15:35.250 --> 00:15:36.240
  • BE BOLD.
  • 00:15:36.240 --> 00:15:37.210
  • I WAS READING A QUOTE ONE TIME
  • 00:15:37.210 --> 00:15:39.030
  • WHEN I WROTE OUR SECOND BOOK
  • 00:15:39.030 --> 00:15:40.070
  • WITH MY BROTHER,
  • 00:15:40.070 --> 00:15:40.290
  • "LIVING AMONG LIONS."
  • 00:15:40.290 --> 00:15:42.050
  • AND IN THAT BOOK,
  • 00:15:42.050 --> 00:15:42.280
  • I REFERENCED A QUOTE BY THE
  • 00:15:42.280 --> 00:15:44.090
  • FORMER CHAPLAIN OF BOTH HARVARD
  • 00:15:44.090 --> 00:15:46.070
  • AND STANFORD UNIVERSITIES,
  • 00:15:46.070 --> 00:15:47.240
  • BY THE NAME OF
  • 00:15:47.240 --> 00:15:48.140
  • DR. ELTON TRUEBLOOD.
  • 00:15:48.140 --> 00:15:49.140
  • AND HE WAS ASKED,
  • 00:15:49.140 --> 00:15:50.100
  • LATER IN HIS LIFE,
  • 00:15:50.100 --> 00:15:51.000
  • "WHAT'S IT GOING TO LOOK LIKE
  • 00:15:51.000 --> 00:15:51.280
  • FOR CHRISTIANS IN AMERICA
  • 00:15:51.280 --> 00:15:53.120
  • IN THE LAST PART
  • 00:15:53.120 --> 00:15:54.050
  • OF THE 20TH CENTURY?"
  • 00:15:54.050 --> 00:15:55.090
  • AND HE SAID THIS;
  • 00:15:55.090 --> 00:15:56.050
  • IT WAS A PROPHETIC WARNING
  • 00:15:56.050 --> 00:15:57.030
  • TO US.
  • 00:15:57.030 --> 00:15:57.290
  • HE SAID, "BY THE YEAR 2000,
  • 00:15:57.290 --> 00:15:59.240
  • CHRISTIANS IN AMERICA WILL BE
  • 00:15:59.240 --> 00:16:01.130
  • A CONSCIOUS MINORITY
  • 00:16:01.130 --> 00:16:02.280
  • SURROUNDED BY AN ARROGANT,
  • 00:16:02.280 --> 00:16:04.180
  • MILITANT PAGANISM."
  • 00:16:04.180 --> 00:16:06.190
  • YOU KNOW THIS IS NOTHING NEW
  • 00:16:06.190 --> 00:16:08.030
  • TO THE CHRISTIAN FAITH.
  • 00:16:08.030 --> 00:16:09.020
  • IN THE 1ST CENTURY.
  • 00:16:09.020 --> 00:16:10.030
  • IN ACTS 4:29,
  • 00:16:10.030 --> 00:16:12.050
  • PETER AND JOHN PRAYED
  • 00:16:12.050 --> 00:16:13.220
  • TO THE LORD.
  • 00:16:13.220 --> 00:16:14.100
  • AND HE SAID, "AND NOW LORD,
  • 00:16:14.100 --> 00:16:15.100
  • TAKE NOTE OF THEIR THREATS,
  • 00:16:15.100 --> 00:16:17.000
  • AND GRANT THAT YOUR SERVANTS
  • 00:16:17.000 --> 00:16:18.050
  • MAY SPEAK YOUR WORD
  • 00:16:18.050 --> 00:16:19.170
  • WITH GREAT BOLDNESS."
  • 00:16:19.170 --> 00:16:20.270
  • SO WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU,
  • 00:16:20.270 --> 00:16:22.010
  • AS WE TRY TO ENCOURAGE
  • 00:16:22.010 --> 00:16:22.260
  • OURSELVES TO BE BOLD
  • 00:16:22.260 --> 00:16:24.150
  • IN TODAY'S CULTURE.
  • 00:16:24.150 --> 00:16:25.100
  • JASON BENHAM: AND NO MATTER
  • 00:16:25.100 --> 00:16:26.040
  • HOW DARK IT GETS IN CULTURE,
  • 00:16:26.040 --> 00:16:28.110
  • THAT MEANS THAT OUR LIGHTS CAN
  • 00:16:28.110 --> 00:16:29.180
  • SHINE THAT MUCH MORE BRIGHT.
  • 00:16:29.180 --> 00:16:31.150
  • AND IT'S NOT BRIGHTER;
  • 00:16:31.150 --> 00:16:32.150
  • IT'S MORE BRIGHT.
  • 00:16:32.150 --> 00:16:33.080
  • DAVID BENHAM: TRUE.
  • 00:16:33.080 --> 00:16:34.000
  • JASON BENHAM: BUT THIS
  • 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:34.290
  • IN OUR CULTURE TODAY,
  • 00:16:34.290 --> 00:16:35.250
  • IN EZEKIEL 22, GOD SAYS,
  • 00:16:35.250 --> 00:16:37.270
  • "I LOOKED FOR A MAN WHO IS
  • 00:16:37.270 --> 00:16:39.080
  • WILLING TO STAND IN THE GAP,
  • 00:16:39.080 --> 00:16:40.160
  • BUT I FOUND NONE."
  • 00:16:40.160 --> 00:16:41.160
  • LET'S NOT LET THAT BE
  • 00:16:41.160 --> 00:16:43.070
  • THE ANSWER THAT HE GETS
  • 00:16:43.070 --> 00:16:45.070
  • RIGHT NOW IN THIS CULTURE;
  • 00:16:45.070 --> 00:16:46.270
  • THAT YOU AND I STANDING
  • 00:16:46.270 --> 00:16:48.090
  • TOGETHER, AS CHRISTIANS,
  • 00:16:48.090 --> 00:16:49.190
  • CAN BE LIGHTS THAT SHINE
  • 00:16:49.190 --> 00:16:51.020
  • BRIGHTLY THAT ILLUMINATE
  • 00:16:51.020 --> 00:16:52.240
  • THE DARKNESS.
  • 00:16:52.240 --> 00:16:53.180
  • IT'S OUR TIME TO STAND BOLD.
  • 00:16:53.180 --> 00:16:55.060
  • AND SO LORD,
  • 00:16:55.060 --> 00:16:56.030
  • TAKE NOTE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING,
  • 00:16:56.030 --> 00:16:57.200
  • AND GRANT US THE COURAGE
  • 00:16:57.200 --> 00:16:59.060
  • TO BE BOLD FOR OUR FAITH.
  • 00:16:59.060 --> 00:17:01.000
  • MUSIC
  • 00:17:05.010 --> 00:17:08.010
  • KENDAL HAGEE: I AM HERE
  • 00:17:08.010 --> 00:17:08.240
  • WITH LAURA STORY.
  • 00:17:08.240 --> 00:17:09.160
  • SHE IS A GRAMMY WINNER.
  • 00:17:09.160 --> 00:17:11.260
  • YOU'RE A SONG WRITER.
  • 00:17:11.260 --> 00:17:12.280
  • SHE'S A WIFE AND MOST OF ALL,
  • 00:17:12.280 --> 00:17:15.000
  • A MOTHER OF FOUR KIDS.
  • 00:17:15.000 --> 00:17:16.150
  • LAURA STORY: I AM.
  • 00:17:16.150 --> 00:17:17.020
  • KENDAL HAGEE: SO WE'RE HAVING
  • 00:17:17.020 --> 00:17:17.240
  • A LITTLE GIRL TALK HERE,
  • 00:17:17.240 --> 00:17:18.170
  • BECAUSE I WANTED TO HEAR MORE.
  • 00:17:18.170 --> 00:17:19.280
  • HOW DO YOU BALANCE LIFE,
  • 00:17:19.280 --> 00:17:21.280
  • MINISTRY, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:17:21.280 --> 00:17:24.180
  • AND LIKE MOTHERHOOD?
  • 00:17:24.180 --> 00:17:25.090
  • HOW DO YOU BALANCE ALL THAT
  • 00:17:25.090 --> 00:17:26.120
  • WITH --
  • 00:17:26.120 --> 00:17:27.000
  • LAURA STORY: AH,
  • 00:17:27.000 --> 00:17:27.170
  • THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
  • 00:17:27.170 --> 00:17:28.030
  • AND I CERTAINLY DO NOT DO IT
  • 00:17:28.030 --> 00:17:28.240
  • PERFECTLY.
  • 00:17:28.240 --> 00:17:29.280
  • KENDAL HAGEE: THANK GOD
  • 00:17:29.280 --> 00:17:30.140
  • HE DOESN'T EXPECT US TO.
  • 00:17:30.140 --> 00:17:31.230
  • LAURA STORY: THAT IS SO TRUE.
  • 00:17:31.230 --> 00:17:32.210
  • KENDAL HAGEE: THAT IS SOMETHING
  • 00:17:32.210 --> 00:17:33.100
  • THAT I THINK WE WOMEN,
  • 00:17:33.100 --> 00:17:33.280
  • WE THINK THAT WE HAVE TO BE
  • 00:17:33.280 --> 00:17:34.270
  • PERFECT MOTHERS,
  • 00:17:34.270 --> 00:17:35.270
  • PERFECT WIVES.
  • 00:17:35.270 --> 00:17:36.210
  • LAURA STORY: YES.
  • 00:17:36.210 --> 00:17:37.170
  • AND REALLY WE HAVE A GREAT TEAM
  • 00:17:37.170 --> 00:17:39.160
  • OF FAMILY AND FRIENDS FROM
  • 00:17:39.160 --> 00:17:41.050
  • OUR CHURCH THAT REALLY HELP US.
  • 00:17:41.050 --> 00:17:42.290
  • AND I ALSO,
  • 00:17:42.290 --> 00:17:43.160
  • I TRAVEL WITH MY KIDS,
  • 00:17:43.160 --> 00:17:44.210
  • WHICH IS COMPLETE INSANITY.
  • 00:17:44.210 --> 00:17:47.110
  • AND SO LUCKILY I DON'T HAVE
  • 00:17:47.110 --> 00:17:48.040
  • TO BE AWAY FROM THEM AS MUCH.
  • 00:17:48.040 --> 00:17:50.020
  • AND IT REALLY IS -- IF I --
  • 00:17:50.020 --> 00:17:53.010
  • I NEVER, IN A MILLION YEARS,
  • 00:17:53.010 --> 00:17:54.030
  • IMAGINED I WOULD BE DOING THIS
  • 00:17:54.030 --> 00:17:55.230
  • LIKE FOR A LIVING.
  • 00:17:55.230 --> 00:17:56.170
  • BUT GOD,
  • 00:17:56.170 --> 00:17:57.170
  • HE GRACIOUSLY PROVIDES
  • 00:17:57.170 --> 00:17:58.240
  • IN EVERY SEASON.
  • 00:17:58.240 --> 00:17:59.200
  • I THINK IT'S ALSO EVERY
  • 00:17:59.200 --> 00:18:01.290
  • PROBABLY 12 TO 18 MONTHS,
  • 00:18:01.290 --> 00:18:03.160
  • I JUST KIND OF RELEASE
  • 00:18:03.160 --> 00:18:05.080
  • ALL OF IT,
  • 00:18:05.080 --> 00:18:05.220
  • AND SAY, "OKAY; GOD,
  • 00:18:05.220 --> 00:18:06.230
  • DO YOU STILL WANT ME TO BE
  • 00:18:06.230 --> 00:18:07.220
  • DOING ALL THIS?"
  • 00:18:07.220 --> 00:18:08.120
  • BECAUSE I CAN'T DO EVERYTHING.
  • 00:18:08.120 --> 00:18:09.180
  • KENDAL HAGEE: NO, NO.
  • 00:18:09.180 --> 00:18:10.180
  • LAURA STORY: AND BEING OKAY,
  • 00:18:10.180 --> 00:18:11.140
  • LIKE IF GOD SAID, "HEY,
  • 00:18:11.140 --> 00:18:12.080
  • I DON'T WANT YOU TO TOUR
  • 00:18:12.080 --> 00:18:12.280
  • ANYMORE"
  • 00:18:12.280 --> 00:18:13.190
  • OR "I DON'T WANT YOU TO DO
  • 00:18:13.190 --> 00:18:14.060
  • THIS OR THAT,"
  • 00:18:14.060 --> 00:18:15.170
  • REALLY BEING OKAY TO SURRENDER
  • 00:18:15.170 --> 00:18:17.060
  • THAT.
  • 00:18:17.060 --> 00:18:18.040
  • KENDAL HAGEE: AND YOU TALK
  • 00:18:18.040 --> 00:18:18.200
  • ABOUT IN YOUR BOOK,
  • 00:18:18.200 --> 00:18:19.070
  • "I GIVE UP."
  • 00:18:19.070 --> 00:18:19.250
  • LAURA STORY: I GIVE UP.
  • 00:18:19.250 --> 00:18:20.260
  • KENDAL HAGEE: THAT IS SOMETHING
  • 00:18:20.260 --> 00:18:21.150
  • WE WERE TALKING EARLIER
  • 00:18:21.150 --> 00:18:22.070
  • WITH MATT ABOUT LIKE
  • 00:18:22.070 --> 00:18:23.050
  • HOW DO YOU CONTROL?
  • 00:18:23.050 --> 00:18:24.180
  • US WOMEN,
  • 00:18:24.180 --> 00:18:25.060
  • WE WANT TOTAL CONTROL.
  • 00:18:25.060 --> 00:18:27.060
  • WE CONTROL OUR KIDS.
  • 00:18:27.060 --> 00:18:28.090
  • WE TRY TO CONTROL OUR HUSBAND.
  • 00:18:28.090 --> 00:18:29.220
  • WE TRY TO CONTROL
  • 00:18:29.220 --> 00:18:30.220
  • EVERY SITUATION.
  • 00:18:30.220 --> 00:18:31.270
  • AND HOW DID YOU GET TO A POINT
  • 00:18:31.270 --> 00:18:33.190
  • WITH YOUR KIDS JUST TO FIND
  • 00:18:33.190 --> 00:18:35.040
  • LIKE, LORD, I GIVE THEM TO YOU?
  • 00:18:35.040 --> 00:18:37.190
  • AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE
  • 00:18:37.190 --> 00:18:38.210
  • SOMETIMES WILL WANT TO CONTROL
  • 00:18:38.210 --> 00:18:39.160
  • EVERY DETAIL OF OUR THEIR LIFE.
  • 00:18:39.160 --> 00:18:40.280
  • BUT GOD TELLS US,
  • 00:18:40.280 --> 00:18:42.050
  • GIVE YOUR KIDS TO ME.
  • 00:18:42.050 --> 00:18:43.290
  • LAURA STORY: WELL I THINK
  • 00:18:43.290 --> 00:18:44.150
  • ACKNOWLEDGING THAT I'M NOT
  • 00:18:44.150 --> 00:18:46.060
  • CALLED TO BE THE PERFECT MOM
  • 00:18:46.060 --> 00:18:48.000
  • FOR MY KIDS.
  • 00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:48.220
  • I'M CALLED TO BE DEPENDENT
  • 00:18:48.220 --> 00:18:50.020
  • ON THE LORD.
  • 00:18:50.020 --> 00:18:51.080
  • AND IN A LOT OF WAYS,
  • 00:18:51.080 --> 00:18:52.290
  • IF I'M TRYING TO BE PERFECT,
  • 00:18:52.290 --> 00:18:54.130
  • WHAT I'M SHOWING MY CHILD IS
  • 00:18:54.130 --> 00:18:56.140
  • YOU NEED TO BE PERFECT --
  • 00:18:56.140 --> 00:18:57.280
  • KENDAL HAGEE: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:18:57.280 --> 00:18:58.150
  • LAURA STORY: -- AS
  • 00:18:58.150 --> 00:18:59.020
  • AN INDIVIDUAL,
  • 00:18:59.020 --> 00:18:59.140
  • RATHER THAN IF I'M SHOWING THEM
  • 00:18:59.140 --> 00:19:00.190
  • HOW TO DEPEND ON THE LORD
  • 00:19:00.190 --> 00:19:02.090
  • IN EVERY SITUATION
  • 00:19:02.090 --> 00:19:03.110
  • AND IN EVERY SEASON,
  • 00:19:03.110 --> 00:19:04.130
  • THEN I'M TEACHING MY CHILD
  • 00:19:04.130 --> 00:19:05.190
  • DEPENDENCE.
  • 00:19:05.190 --> 00:19:06.160
  • BECAUSE I DON'T WANT US TO HAVE
  • 00:19:06.160 --> 00:19:07.140
  • THIS THEORETICAL FAITH
  • 00:19:07.140 --> 00:19:08.220
  • AS A FAMILY.
  • 00:19:08.220 --> 00:19:09.090
  • LIKE YES, WE HAVE FAITH IN GOD,
  • 00:19:09.090 --> 00:19:10.280
  • BUT WE REALLY CAN HANDLE
  • 00:19:10.280 --> 00:19:12.020
  • EVERYTHING REALLY WELL
  • 00:19:12.020 --> 00:19:12.250
  • ON OUR OWN.
  • 00:19:12.250 --> 00:19:13.260
  • I WANT TO MODEL FOR THEM WHAT
  • 00:19:13.260 --> 00:19:15.130
  • IT LOOKS LIKE TO BE DEPENDENT
  • 00:19:15.130 --> 00:19:16.190
  • ON GOD FOR EVERY NEED.
  • 00:19:16.190 --> 00:19:18.020
  • KENDAL HAGEE: AND I LOVE
  • 00:19:18.020 --> 00:19:18.240
  • HOW YOU PUT IN YOUR BOOK
  • 00:19:18.240 --> 00:19:19.140
  • THAT YOU LIVE BY FAITH,
  • 00:19:19.140 --> 00:19:20.210
  • SO YOUR KIDS SEE THAT.
  • 00:19:20.210 --> 00:19:21.170
  • YOU PUT GOD FIRST
  • 00:19:21.170 --> 00:19:22.170
  • AND HE'S YOUR PRIORITY,
  • 00:19:22.170 --> 00:19:24.060
  • AND THEN YOUR KIDS
  • 00:19:24.060 --> 00:19:24.250
  • WILL FOLLOW YOU.
  • 00:19:24.250 --> 00:19:25.260
  • YOU TAKE THEM TO CHURCH.
  • 00:19:25.260 --> 00:19:27.100
  • THEY GO WITH YOU SINGING.
  • 00:19:27.100 --> 00:19:28.280
  • AND THEY WATCH YOU WORSHIP.
  • 00:19:28.280 --> 00:19:30.020
  • I LOVE SEEING KIDS DURING
  • 00:19:30.020 --> 00:19:31.170
  • WORSHIP, I MEAN JUST GIVING IT.
  • 00:19:31.170 --> 00:19:33.040
  • AND THEY SEE MOM.
  • 00:19:33.040 --> 00:19:33.290
  • THEY'RE OPEN IN THEIR WORSHIP,
  • 00:19:33.290 --> 00:19:34.280
  • AND THEY'RE LOOKING
  • 00:19:34.280 --> 00:19:35.230
  • AT MOM AND DAD; YOU KNOW?
  • 00:19:35.230 --> 00:19:36.210
  • WHAT ARE THEY DOING?
  • 00:19:36.210 --> 00:19:37.140
  • AND THEY'RE FOLLOWING US.
  • 00:19:37.140 --> 00:19:38.250
  • HOW DO YOU,
  • 00:19:38.250 --> 00:19:39.180
  • IF YOU GIVE SOMEBODY
  • 00:19:39.180 --> 00:19:40.050
  • THAT'S WATCHING RIGHT NOW,
  • 00:19:40.050 --> 00:19:40.260
  • HOW DO YOU GIVE THEM SOME TIPS
  • 00:19:40.260 --> 00:19:42.130
  • TO INCLUDE YOUR KIDS
  • 00:19:42.130 --> 00:19:43.240
  • IN YOUR LIFE?
  • 00:19:43.240 --> 00:19:44.090
  • YOU TAKE THEM ON THE ROAD?
  • 00:19:44.090 --> 00:19:45.120
  • LAURA STORY: YEAH.
  • 00:19:45.120 --> 00:19:46.000
  • I THINK EARLY ON SOMEONE
  • 00:19:46.000 --> 00:19:47.090
  • GAVE ME THE ADVICE;
  • 00:19:47.090 --> 00:19:48.200
  • THEY SAID,
  • 00:19:48.200 --> 00:19:49.150
  • "DON'T SACRIFICE YOUR FAMILY
  • 00:19:49.150 --> 00:19:51.230
  • FOR MINISTRY,
  • 00:19:51.230 --> 00:19:52.270
  • BUT YOUR FAMILY WILL MAKE
  • 00:19:52.270 --> 00:19:54.190
  • SACRIFICES FOR MINISTRY."
  • 00:19:54.190 --> 00:19:55.290
  • AND THAT'S A GOOD THING,
  • 00:19:55.290 --> 00:19:56.240
  • SO DON'T -- DON'T DO MINISTRY
  • 00:19:56.240 --> 00:19:58.110
  • IN SPITE OF YOUR FAMILY,
  • 00:19:58.110 --> 00:19:59.190
  • BECAUSE YOUR FAMILY REALLY IS
  • 00:19:59.190 --> 00:20:01.070
  • YOUR PRIMARY MINISTRY.
  • 00:20:01.070 --> 00:20:02.170
  • KENDAL HAGEE: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:20:02.170 --> 00:20:03.070
  • LAURA STORY: BUT IT'S OKAY.
  • 00:20:03.070 --> 00:20:03.290
  • IT'S OKAY FOR MY KIDS TO HAVE
  • 00:20:03.290 --> 00:20:05.010
  • TO TAG ALONG WITH ME FOR A 6:30
  • 00:20:05.010 --> 00:20:07.040
  • SOUND CHECK AT MY CHURCH
  • 00:20:07.040 --> 00:20:09.100
  • FOR WORSHIP.
  • 00:20:09.100 --> 00:20:10.000
  • BECAUSE THE TRUTH IS I NEED
  • 00:20:10.000 --> 00:20:11.200
  • TO SHOW THEM HOW TO SACRIFICE
  • 00:20:11.290 --> 00:20:14.290
  • FOR THE THINGS OF THE KINGDOM,
  • 00:20:14.290 --> 00:20:16.190
  • FOR THE THINGS THAT ARE CLOSEST
  • 00:20:16.190 --> 00:20:18.010
  • TO THE HEART OF GOD,
  • 00:20:18.010 --> 00:20:19.130
  • BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT SHOWS THEM
  • 00:20:19.130 --> 00:20:21.060
  • THAT GOD IS WORTH THAT.
  • 00:20:21.060 --> 00:20:22.180
  • KENDAL HAGEE: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:20:22.180 --> 00:20:23.060
  • THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:20:23.060 --> 00:20:23.250
  • LAURA STORY: THAT'S WHAT SHOWS
  • 00:20:23.250 --> 00:20:24.250
  • THEM THE VALUE OF GOD
  • 00:20:24.250 --> 00:20:27.070
  • IS THEM MAKING SACRIFICES,
  • 00:20:27.070 --> 00:20:29.230
  • EVEN IF THEY'RE TOO YOUNG
  • 00:20:29.230 --> 00:20:30.290
  • TO REALLY KNOW?
  • 00:20:30.290 --> 00:20:32.000
  • OH, WE HAVE TO BE THERE
  • 00:20:32.000 --> 00:20:32.210
  • SO EARLY.
  • 00:20:32.210 --> 00:20:33.290
  • (LAUGHTER)
  • 00:20:33.290 --> 00:20:34.270
  • LAURA STORY: BUT IT'S GOOD TO
  • 00:20:34.270 --> 00:20:35.170
  • MODEL THAT TO BRING THEM ALONG,
  • 00:20:35.170 --> 00:20:37.100
  • BECAUSE ULTIMATELY,
  • 00:20:37.100 --> 00:20:38.080
  • THAT'S HOW I WANT THEM TO LIVE
  • 00:20:38.080 --> 00:20:39.120
  • THEIR LIVES.
  • 00:20:39.120 --> 00:20:40.110
  • KENDAL HAGEE: YES.
  • 00:20:40.110 --> 00:20:40.290
  • AND YOU KNOW ONE THING I'VE
  • 00:20:40.290 --> 00:20:41.230
  • ALWAYS HEARD PEOPLE HAVE SAID,
  • 00:20:41.230 --> 00:20:42.180
  • YOU KNOW, "ONE OF THE GREATEST
  • 00:20:42.180 --> 00:20:43.110
  • CONTRIBUTIONS MAY NOT BE
  • 00:20:43.110 --> 00:20:44.160
  • SOMETHING YOU DO
  • 00:20:44.160 --> 00:20:45.080
  • BUT SOMEONE YOU RAISE."
  • 00:20:45.080 --> 00:20:46.220
  • AND I THINK OUR MINISTRY
  • 00:20:46.220 --> 00:20:47.250
  • IS OUR FAMILY.
  • 00:20:47.250 --> 00:20:48.240
  • AND I LOVED HOW YOU SAID
  • 00:20:48.240 --> 00:20:49.230
  • YOU PUT YOUR FAMILY FIRST
  • 00:20:49.230 --> 00:20:51.030
  • BEFORE YOUR MINISTRY,
  • 00:20:51.030 --> 00:20:52.120
  • BRINGING THEM ALONG AND KOW
  • 00:20:52.120 --> 00:20:53.150
  • THAT THEY'RE IMPORTANT;
  • 00:20:53.150 --> 00:20:54.050
  • THAT MODEL WHAT YOU'RE DOING
  • 00:20:54.050 --> 00:20:56.040
  • FOR THE LORD.
  • 00:20:56.040 --> 00:20:56.200
  • AND THEY WILL SEE YOU AND
  • 00:20:56.200 --> 00:20:58.010
  • FOLLOW AFTER YOUR FOOTSTEPS.
  • 00:20:58.010 --> 00:20:59.070
  • LAURA, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
  • 00:20:59.070 --> 00:21:01.000
  • LAURA STORY: OH, IT'S GREAT
  • 00:21:01.000 --> 00:21:02.020
  • TO BE HERE.
  • 00:21:02.020 --> 00:21:02.140
  • KENDAL HAGEE: I ENCOURAGE
  • 00:21:02.140 --> 00:21:03.030
  • EVERYONE TO GET THIS BOOK
  • 00:21:03.030 --> 00:21:03.220
  • "I GIVE UP."
  • 00:21:03.220 --> 00:21:04.080
  • I MEAN IT' S SUCH A TESTIMONY
  • 00:21:04.080 --> 00:21:04.260
  • TO YOUR LIFE
  • 00:21:04.260 --> 00:21:05.120
  • AND YOU INSPIRE SO MANY.
  • 00:21:05.120 --> 00:21:06.170
  • SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD
  • 00:21:06.170 --> 00:21:07.140
  • TO HAVING LAURA'S STORY.
  • 00:21:07.140 --> 00:21:08.190
  • SHE'S GOING TO SHARE ONE
  • 00:21:08.190 --> 00:21:09.160
  • OF HER SONGS,
  • 00:21:09.160 --> 00:21:10.040
  • SO STAY TUNED.
  • 00:21:10.040 --> 00:21:10.230
  • YOU DON'T WANT TO MISS THIS.
  • 00:21:10.230 --> 00:21:11.240
  • MUSIC
  • 00:21:11.240 --> 00:21:14.220
  • MUSIC
  • 00:21:14.220 --> 00:21:15.230
  • YOU AND YOUR FAMILY CAN EXPLORE
  • 00:21:15.230 --> 00:21:17.050
  • ISRAEL WITH PASTOR MATT,
  • 00:21:17.050 --> 00:21:18.210
  • KENDAL,
  • 00:21:18.210 --> 00:21:19.040
  • AND THEIR CHILDREN
  • 00:21:19.040 --> 00:21:20.010
  • ON THE 2020 ISRAEL FAMILY TRIP.
  • 00:21:20.010 --> 00:21:22.160
  • THIS ISN'T YOUR TYPICAL
  • 00:21:22.160 --> 00:21:23.120
  • PILGRIMAGE.
  • 00:21:23.120 --> 00:21:24.110
  • THIS FUN AND EXCITING TRIP
  • 00:21:24.110 --> 00:21:25.200
  • IS DESIGNED FOR FAMILIES.
  • 00:21:25.200 --> 00:21:27.090
  • MORE THAN JUST VISITING
  • 00:21:27.090 --> 00:21:28.060
  • HISTORICAL PLACES,
  • 00:21:28.060 --> 00:21:29.190
  • PAST WILL MEET PRESENT,
  • 00:21:29.190 --> 00:21:30.220
  • AS YOU SAIL ACROSS THE SEA
  • 00:21:30.220 --> 00:21:32.050
  • OF GALILEE.
  • 00:21:32.050 --> 00:21:33.050
  • DISCOVER ANCIENT ANTIQUITIES
  • 00:21:33.050 --> 00:21:34.250
  • WHILE ON AN ARCHEOLOGICAL DIG.
  • 00:21:34.250 --> 00:21:36.230
  • RECREATE THE DAY-TO-DAY LIFE
  • 00:21:36.230 --> 00:21:38.080
  • OF AN ANCIENT BIBLICAL VILLAGE,
  • 00:21:38.080 --> 00:21:39.260
  • INCLUDING HERDING SHEEP
  • 00:21:39.260 --> 00:21:41.030
  • AND MAKING CHEESE.
  • 00:21:41.030 --> 00:21:42.100
  • MUSIC
  • 00:21:42.100 --> 00:21:43.060
  • FLOAT ON THE DEAD SEA
  • 00:21:43.060 --> 00:21:44.070
  • AND SWIM IN THE MEDITERRANEAN.
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  • TAKE COMMUNION
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  • AT THE GARDEN TOMB,
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  • AND BE BAPTIZED
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  • IN THE JORDAN RIVER.
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  • WHETHER YOU'RE RIDING ATV'S
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  • ACROSS THE DESERT
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  • OR TAKING PART
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  • IN A CAMEL CARAVAN,
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  • THIS IS THE PERFECT WAY
  • 00:21:53.270 --> 00:21:54.270
  • TO BRING THE BIBLE TO LIFE
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  • FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.
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  • SPACE IS LIMITED,
  • 00:21:57.210 --> 00:21:58.290
  • SO CALL OR GO TO JHM.ORG
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  • FOR MORE INFORMATION,
  • 00:22:01.280 --> 00:22:03.060
  • AND RESERVE YOUR SPOT
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  • ON THIS ONE-OF-A-KIND TOUR
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  • TODAY.
  • 00:22:05.290 --> 00:22:07.010
  • MUSIC
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  • MUSIC
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  • GO.
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  • GO AND TELL THE WORLD
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  • THAT JESUS CAME, DIED
  • 00:22:15.010 --> 00:22:16.200
  • AND ROSE AGAIN
  • 00:22:16.200 --> 00:22:17.220
  • FOR THE FORGIVENESS
  • 00:22:17.220 --> 00:22:18.090
  • OF YOUR SINS.
  • 00:22:18.090 --> 00:22:19.150
  • GO AND SHARE THE GOOD NEWS
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  • OF YOUR SALVATION.
  • 00:22:20.120 --> 00:22:21.260
  • TAKE IT INTO THE FURTHERMOST
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  • CORNERS OF THE WORLD.
  • 00:22:23.060 --> 00:22:24.070
  • THIS CHARGE IS FOR EVERY
  • 00:22:24.070 --> 00:22:25.080
  • CHRISTIAN.
  • 00:22:25.080 --> 00:22:26.000
  • BUT NOT EVERY CHRISTIAN KNOWS
  • 00:22:26.000 --> 00:22:27.110
  • HOW TO PREACH AMONGST
  • 00:22:27.110 --> 00:22:28.110
  • THE DAY-TO-DAY RHYTHMS OF LIFE.
  • 00:22:28.110 --> 00:22:29.270
  • WE DO AND WE CAN DO THIS
  • 00:22:29.270 --> 00:22:31.170
  • TOGETHER.
  • 00:22:31.170 --> 00:22:32.130
  • CONNECT YOUR PASSION WITH OURS.
  • 00:22:32.130 --> 00:22:34.130
  • BECOME A LEGACY PARTNER TODAY.
  • 00:22:34.130 --> 00:22:35.290
  • CALL THE NUMBER ON YOUR SCREEN
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  • OR GO TO JHM.ORG/LEGACY.
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  • MUSIC
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  • MUSIC
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  • MATT HAGEE: KENDAL AND I HOPE
  • 00:22:42.140 --> 00:22:43.040
  • THAT YOU'VE ENJOYED
  • 00:22:43.040 --> 00:22:43.240
  • TODAY'S PROGRAM.
  • 00:22:43.240 --> 00:22:44.190
  • IT WAS GREAT FOR US TO HAVE
  • 00:22:44.190 --> 00:22:45.200
  • LAURA'S STORY AND TO HEAR FROM
  • 00:22:45.200 --> 00:22:46.280
  • TWO OF OUR FAVORITE FRIENDS,
  • 00:22:46.280 --> 00:22:48.090
  • DAVID AND JASON BENHAM.
  • 00:22:48.090 --> 00:22:50.000
  • YOU KNOW THE BIBLE TELLS US
  • 00:22:50.000 --> 00:22:51.020
  • IN 2 CORINTHIANS 4:17
  • 00:22:51.020 --> 00:22:53.050
  • THAT THESE LIGHT AFFLICTIONS
  • 00:22:53.050 --> 00:22:54.240
  • ARE FOR A MOMENT.
  • 00:22:54.240 --> 00:22:56.130
  • SOMETIMES THAT'S DIFFICULT
  • 00:22:56.130 --> 00:22:57.140
  • FOR US TO GRASP,
  • 00:22:57.140 --> 00:22:58.230
  • BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE HEAVEN'S
  • 00:22:58.230 --> 00:23:00.200
  • PERSPECTIVE.
  • 00:23:00.200 --> 00:23:01.120
  • WE SEE THINGS AS THEY ARE
  • 00:23:01.120 --> 00:23:03.030
  • RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:23:03.030 --> 00:23:03.210
  • AND WE ARE CONCERNED
  • 00:23:03.210 --> 00:23:04.210
  • THAT THEY WILL NEVER CHANGE.
  • 00:23:04.210 --> 00:23:06.140
  • BUT I PROMISE YOU THIS;
  • 00:23:06.140 --> 00:23:07.170
  • FROM GOD'S POINT OF VIEW,
  • 00:23:07.170 --> 00:23:08.260
  • IT'S JUST A BLIP ON THE SCREEN,
  • 00:23:08.260 --> 00:23:10.280
  • AND HE'S GOT BETTER THINGS
  • 00:23:10.280 --> 00:23:11.270
  • IN YOUR FORECAST AND FUTURE.
  • 00:23:11.270 --> 00:23:13.100
  • KENDAL HAGEE: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:23:13.100 --> 00:23:13.270
  • I ENJOYED TALKED TO LAURA IN
  • 00:23:13.270 --> 00:23:15.030
  • THE KENDAL'S CORNER,
  • 00:23:15.030 --> 00:23:16.030
  • SO WE COULD TALK.
  • 00:23:16.030 --> 00:23:16.250
  • MATT HAGEE: I WASN'T THERE.
  • 00:23:16.250 --> 00:23:17.140
  • KENDAL HAGEE: I KNOW.
  • 00:23:17.140 --> 00:23:17.280
  • BUT BALANCE AND LIFE,
  • 00:23:17.280 --> 00:23:18.290
  • AND JUST HOW TO SHOW FAITH
  • 00:23:18.290 --> 00:23:21.000
  • THROUGH OUR ACTIONS,
  • 00:23:21.000 --> 00:23:22.040
  • SO OUR CHILDREN CAN LEARN
  • 00:23:22.040 --> 00:23:23.030
  • FROM US.
  • 00:23:23.030 --> 00:23:23.200
  • THEY WATCH EVERYTHING
  • 00:23:23.200 --> 00:23:25.020
  • THAT WE DO.
  • 00:23:25.020 --> 00:23:26.060
  • MATT HAGEE: WELL ONE OF THE
  • 00:23:26.060 --> 00:23:26.260
  • THINGS THAT WE DO IS
  • 00:23:26.260 --> 00:23:27.250
  • WE BRING THIS PROGRAM TO YOU,
  • 00:23:27.250 --> 00:23:29.030
  • BECAUSE WE WANT IT TO MAKE
  • 00:23:29.030 --> 00:23:30.010
  • A DIFFERENCE IN YOUR LIFE.
  • 00:23:30.010 --> 00:23:31.170
  • AND IF YOU'D LIKE TO,
  • 00:23:31.170 --> 00:23:32.100
  • YOU CAN FIND US ON FACEBOOK OR
  • 00:23:32.100 --> 00:23:33.270
  • YOU CAN JOIN US ON INSTAGRAM.
  • 00:23:33.270 --> 00:23:35.190
  • ALSO CONSIDER LEAVING A COMMENT
  • 00:23:35.190 --> 00:23:37.120
  • AND GIVE US SOME THOUGHTS ABOUT
  • 00:23:37.120 --> 00:23:38.120
  • THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING
  • 00:23:38.120 --> 00:23:39.110
  • IN YOUR LIFE THAT WE CAN SPEAK
  • 00:23:39.110 --> 00:23:40.270
  • DIRECTLY TO.
  • 00:23:40.270 --> 00:23:41.250
  • KENDAL HAGEE: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:23:41.250 --> 00:23:42.120
  • YOU COULD SUBSCRIBE TO
  • 00:23:42.120 --> 00:23:43.030
  • THE MATT AND KENDAL PODCAST.
  • 00:23:43.030 --> 00:23:44.080
  • WE ALSO HAVE SOME REALLY GREAT
  • 00:23:44.080 --> 00:23:45.190
  • CONVERSATIONS.
  • 00:23:45.190 --> 00:23:46.140
  • AND WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR
  • 00:23:46.140 --> 00:23:47.150
  • FROM YOU.
  • 00:23:47.150 --> 00:23:48.040
  • MATT HAGEE: WELL I THINK I HAVE
  • 00:23:48.040 --> 00:23:48.290
  • GREAT CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE --
  • 00:23:48.290 --> 00:23:50.170
  • KENDAL HAGEE: TOGETHER.
  • 00:23:50.170 --> 00:23:51.050
  • MATT HAGEE: -- SIGNIFICANTLY
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  • INTERRUPTED
  • 00:23:51.280 --> 00:23:52.260
  • BY A DIFFERENCE MAKER
  • 00:23:52.260 --> 00:23:53.220
  • IN MY LIFE.
  • 00:23:53.220 --> 00:23:54.200
  • KENDAL HAGEE: I GIVE UP.
  • 00:23:54.200 --> 00:23:55.100
  • I SURRENDER.
  • 00:23:55.100 --> 00:23:55.260
  • MATT HAGEE: WE THANK EACH
  • 00:23:55.260 --> 00:23:56.170
  • AND EVERY ONE OF YOU,
  • 00:23:56.170 --> 00:23:57.050
  • WHO SUPPORT THIS MINISTRY,
  • 00:23:57.050 --> 00:23:57.220
  • FOR MAKING WHAT WE DO POSSIBLE.
  • 00:23:57.220 --> 00:23:59.090
  • OUR PURPOSE IS TO TAKE ALL
  • 00:23:59.090 --> 00:24:00.160
  • THE GOSPEL TO ALL OF THE WORLD
  • 00:24:00.160 --> 00:24:02.000
  • AND TO EVERY GENERATION,
  • 00:24:02.000 --> 00:24:03.120
  • HELPING THEM DISCOVER THE
  • 00:24:03.120 --> 00:24:04.270
  • DIFFERENCE THAT JESUS CHRIST
  • 00:24:04.270 --> 00:24:06.100
  • CAN MAKE IN THEIR LIFE.
  • 00:24:06.100 --> 00:24:07.090
  • HERE TO HELP US DISCOVER
  • 00:24:07.090 --> 00:24:08.060
  • THE DIFFERENCE IS LAURA STORY
  • 00:24:08.060 --> 00:24:10.010
  • PERFORMING HER SONG
  • 00:24:10.010 --> 00:24:11.090
  • I GIVE UP.
  • 00:24:11.090 --> 00:24:13.060
  • MUSIC
  • 00:24:15.160 --> 00:24:18.160
  • I BELONG
  • 00:24:18.160 --> 00:24:20.020
  • I BELONG TO THE MAKER
  • 00:24:20.080 --> 00:24:23.080
  • OF EARTH AND SEAS
  • 00:24:23.080 --> 00:24:25.280
  • MUSIC
  • 00:24:27.050 --> 00:24:30.050
  • WHO'S AS RICH AS A KING
  • 00:24:30.050 --> 00:24:33.040
  • YET SO GENTLE
  • 00:24:33.040 --> 00:24:34.260
  • AND KIND TOWARDS ME
  • 00:24:34.260 --> 00:24:37.100
  • MUSIC
  • 00:24:39.080 --> 00:24:42.080
  • I AM NOT CARED FOR
  • 00:24:42.080 --> 00:24:44.260
  • BY A SERVANT HIRED
  • 00:24:45.010 --> 00:24:48.010
  • BUT A SHEPHERD
  • 00:24:48.010 --> 00:24:49.240
  • WHO WOULD LEAVE
  • 00:24:49.240 --> 00:24:51.030
  • THE NINETY-NINE
  • 00:24:51.200 --> 00:24:54.200
  • MUSIC
  • 00:24:54.200 --> 00:24:56.160
  • SO WHEN I GIVE UP
  • 00:24:56.160 --> 00:24:59.110
  • I GAIN
  • 00:24:59.230 --> 00:25:02.250
  • WHEN I LET GO
  • 00:25:02.250 --> 00:25:05.120
  • OF HAVING MY OWN WAY
  • 00:25:05.220 --> 00:25:08.220
  • WHEN I LEARN TO SEE
  • 00:25:08.220 --> 00:25:11.060
  • MY SURRENDER
  • 00:25:11.060 --> 00:25:12.270
  • AS A BRAND NEW START
  • 00:25:13.150 --> 00:25:16.150
  • TO KNOW THE FULLNESS
  • 00:25:16.150 --> 00:25:18.120
  • OF MY FATHER'S HEART
  • 00:25:19.240 --> 00:25:22.240
  • MUSIC
  • 00:25:28.090 --> 00:25:31.090
  • AND I WILL REST
  • 00:25:31.090 --> 00:25:32.240
  • I WILL REST
  • 00:25:32.240 --> 00:25:34.070
  • NOT IN WORLDLY SECURITY
  • 00:25:35.140 --> 00:25:38.140
  • MUSIC
  • 00:25:39.240 --> 00:25:42.240
  • NOT IN WHAT I MAY TRY
  • 00:25:42.240 --> 00:25:45.220
  • TO CONTROL
  • 00:25:45.220 --> 00:25:47.110
  • THAT'S CONTROLLING ME
  • 00:25:48.170 --> 00:25:51.170
  • MUSIC
  • 00:25:51.170 --> 00:25:54.090
  • WHAT IF FAITH IS SIMPLER
  • 00:25:54.110 --> 00:25:57.110
  • THAN I'VE MADE IT BE
  • 00:25:57.160 --> 00:26:00.180
  • JUST A SIMPLE TRUSTING
  • 00:26:00.180 --> 00:26:03.050
  • IN YOUR LOVE FOR ME
  • 00:26:03.160 --> 00:26:06.160
  • FOR WHEN I GIVE UP
  • 00:26:06.160 --> 00:26:09.030
  • I GAIN
  • 00:26:09.120 --> 00:26:12.120
  • WHEN I LET GO
  • 00:26:12.120 --> 00:26:15.040
  • OF HAVING MY OWN WAY
  • 00:26:15.100 --> 00:26:18.100
  • WHEN I LEARN TO SEE
  • 00:26:18.100 --> 00:26:20.280
  • MY SURRENDER
  • 00:26:20.280 --> 00:26:22.220
  • AS A BRAND NEW START
  • 00:26:23.150 --> 00:26:26.150
  • TO KNOW THE FULLNESS
  • 00:26:26.150 --> 00:26:28.060
  • OF MY FATHER'S HEART
  • 00:26:31.080 --> 00:26:34.080
  • MUSIC
  • 00:26:37.060 --> 00:26:40.060
  • MY FATHER'S HEART
  • 00:26:41.210 --> 00:26:44.210
  • MUSIC
  • 00:26:50.070 --> 00:26:53.070
  • SO HERE'S MY LIFE TO TAKE
  • 00:26:55.280 --> 00:26:58.280
  • THOUGH YOU'VE HEARD
  • 00:26:58.280 --> 00:27:00.160
  • THIS PRAYER
  • 00:27:00.160 --> 00:27:02.030
  • A THOUSAND OTHER DAYS
  • 00:27:02.030 --> 00:27:04.290
  • MAKE THIS MOMENT
  • 00:27:04.290 --> 00:27:06.260
  • MORE THAN JUST EMPTY WORDS
  • 00:27:07.280 --> 00:27:10.280
  • I SAY
  • 00:27:10.280 --> 00:27:13.000
  • LET IT BE A START
  • 00:27:14.000 --> 00:27:17.000
  • MUSIC
  • 00:27:17.000 --> 00:27:19.160
  • TO KNOW THE FULLNESS
  • 00:27:19.160 --> 00:27:21.140