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September 19, 2016
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Bridges Are Necessary

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  • - Robert Fergusson: In 1990,
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  • my family and I moved from
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  • England to Australia.
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  • It sounds great, doesn't it?
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  • A move from a cold, gray climate
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  • to the glorious sunshine
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  • of Sydney from a small,
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  • sea-bound island to a massive
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  • continent with opportunity
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  • and space to grow.
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  • From a slightly tired town to
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  • a vibrant city with a stunning
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  • What did we have to lose?
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  • It sounds easy, but it wasn't.
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  • Well, all our family,
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  • longstanding friends, and
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  • colleagues with whom we'd worked
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  • for years, all our significant
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  • relationships were now the other
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  • side of the world.
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  • In the first year in our new
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  • home, we were very lonely.
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  • Have you ever felt like that?
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  • Although we had God
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  • and each other, we still needed
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  • relationships, family, friends,
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  • and colleagues, longterm
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  • fruitful relationships.
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  • So, what do you do
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  • when you feel isolated?
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  • What do you do when you have
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  • this obstacle to overcome?
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  • You do what the first English
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  • settlers did when they came
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  • to Sydney, you build a bridge.
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  • - Robert: In 1788
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  • when Captain Arthur Phillip
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  • established the first
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  • European settlement
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  • on Sydney Harbor,
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  • he described it as
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  • the finest harbor in the world
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  • in which a thousand ships
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  • could sail in perfect security.
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  • Now, over 200 years later,
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  • 1.000 ships do sail in it
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  • and I still think it is
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  • the finest harbor in the world.
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  • Of course, if you're a sailor,
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  • this harbor presents you with an
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  • opportunity to enjoy its beauty,
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  • explore its bays and inlets.
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  • However, if you were
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  • an early settler,
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  • this harbor was a problem.
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  • It was deep, and shark infested,
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  • and separated the colony in the
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  • south with the new settlements
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  • in the north.
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  • It was an obstacle which needed
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  • to be overcome.
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  • Clearly, a harbor crossing
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  • was needed.
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  • In 1817, a man called Billy Blue
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  • started the first ferry service
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  • across the harbor in his rowing
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  • boat but both the harbor
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  • and Billy's service
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  • were unpredictable.
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  • It wasn't until
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  • the 19th of March 1932
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  • when the Sydney Harbor Bridge
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  • was finally opened
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  • that the obstacle of the harbor
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  • was finally overcome.
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  • But how does the example of
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  • the Sydney Harbor Bridge help us
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  • build good relationships?
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  • Bridges are symbolic
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  • of connection.
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  • They represent the attraction
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  • of opposites, the joining
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  • of two separate entities,
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  • and they are a great metaphor
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  • for relationships.
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  • So, whatever your relational
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  • situation, married, single,
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  • parent, simply a friend,
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  • an understanding of bridges can
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  • teach you and I how to build
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  • better relationships.
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  • In this program,
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  • we're looking at the world
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  • with uncommon eyes.
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  • I think if we're gonna live
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  • the way God wants us to live,
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  • we need to look at
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  • the world differently.
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  • The focus of today's episode is
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  • bridges and what they can teach
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  • us about our need
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  • for good relationships.
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  • I am Robert Fergusson
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  • - Robert: If you look up the
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  • meaning of the word "bridge,"
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  • it might say a structure
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  • which spans an obstacle
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  • such as a road, a river,
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  • or a harbor and provides
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  • passage over that obstacle
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  • or something which resembles
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  • this span either in shape or
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  • function, such as a relationship
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  • between two people.
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  • This simple definition suggests
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  • three reasons why we build
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  • bridges and relationships.
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  • We need them, there is
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  • an obstacle to overcome,
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  • and we need passage,
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  • some sort of transport
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  • or communication between
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  • two places or people.
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  • It is the first of these reasons
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  • the need of bridges I want to
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  • explore in this episode.
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  • Do you know how much
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  • Bridges connect two entities
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  • which are separated by an
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  • obstacle such as the two sides
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  • of a valley or the two shores
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  • of a harbor.
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  • Often, these two entities
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  • are not only separated
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  • but also very different.
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  • Sydney Harbor Bridge,
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  • for instance,
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  • connects Dawes Point
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  • in the south to Milsons Point
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  • in the north,
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  • opposite points named
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  • after opposite character.
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  • Lieutenant Dawes was
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  • an astronomer
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  • who established the observatory
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  • on the south shore.
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  • James Milson had property
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  • on the north shore
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  • where he was a dairy farmer.
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  • Dawes and Milson, an astronomer
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  • and a farmer, they couldn't have
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  • been more different.
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  • When the bridge was built,
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  • a newspaper article noted
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  • whereas Dawes was much engrossed
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  • with the stars, Milson was much
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  • engrossed with the earth.
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  • The bridge joined north and
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  • south but symbolically connected
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  • nature and science,
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  • the earth with the stars.
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  • Many of our relationships
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  • are like this.
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  • We attempt to build a bridge
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  • between two completely different
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  • places like heaven or earth
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  • or between completely different
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  • people like my wife and I.
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  • But how do we build
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  • these bridges?
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  • - Robert: After the break,
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  • we're going to look at
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  • online dating.
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  • If my wife and I had used this
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  • method to get together,
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  • our different interests
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  • listed in our profiles would
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  • almost certainly have meant
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  • we would never even meet,
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  • let alone have been
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  • happily married for 40 years.
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  • How have we done that despite
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  • - Robert: Many people today
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  • meet online.
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  • If they use a dating site,
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  • they fill in certain details
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  • information, interests,
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  • aspirations, and so on.
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  • These details are shared so that
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  • others can compare them
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  • with their own to see whether
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  • a future relationship
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  • is possible, compatible.
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  • If my wife and I had used
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  • such a site, we would never
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  • have got together.
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  • When we first met, we had
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  • virtually nothing in common.
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  • We were totally different.
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  • I would say we were incompatible
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  • and yet we've been happily
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  • married for 40 years.
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  • How did we do that?
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  • Well, let us share some
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  • online details.
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  • I am a scientist.
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  • I did a degree
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  • in animal behavior.
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  • - Amanda Fergusson: I am
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  • an artist.
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  • I did a degree in theology
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  • and music.
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  • - Robert: I was brought up on
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  • a farm in the country
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  • in the west of England.
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  • - Amanda: I was brought up in
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  • the city in the east of England.
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  • - Robert: I wanted to marry
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  • a blond-haired conservationist.
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  • - Amanda: I wanted to marry
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  • a dark-haired musician.
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  • - Robert: I can't read
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  • a note of music.
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  • - Amanda: I am allergic to
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  • cats, and rabbits, and horses.
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  • - Robert: I love photography.
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  • - Amanda: I have never been
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  • able to take a good photo.
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  • - Robert: I love books,
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  • but I don't read novels.
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  • - Amanda: I love books,
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  • especially novels.
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  • - Robert: See what I mean?
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  • My wife and I seem to have
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  • nothing in common, but isn't
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  • that exactly why marriage works?
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  • Just like the
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  • Sydney Harbor Bridge connects
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  • two separate and very different
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  • sides of a harbor,
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  • our marriage creates unity
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  • out of diversity.
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  • We need diversity in order to
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  • challenge our independent
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  • and often egocentric worldview.
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  • We actually need tension
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  • in a relationship,
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  • not the tension of disharmony,
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  • but the tension
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  • of a violin string,
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  • the tension of harmony.
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  • Of course, in any relationship,
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  • including ours, there is also
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  • inappropriate tension,
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  • usually caused by our individual
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  • selfishness, our sin.
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  • And this is where Amanda and I
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  • do have something in common.
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  • We are both sinners, along with
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  • everyone else in the world
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  • including you and this makes us
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  • all incompatible with each
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  • other, unless we have a
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  • commitment to forgiveness,
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  • to build bridges,
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  • to focus on what connects us
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  • and not what pulls us apart.
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  • I am a teacher.
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  • - Amanda: I am also a teacher.
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  • - Robert: I love truth.
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  • - Amanda: I love truth.
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  • - Robert: I teach truth through
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  • my personality.
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  • - Amanda: I teach truth through
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  • my personality.
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  • - Robert: I teach differently
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  • to Amanda.
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  • - Amanda: I teach differently
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  • to Robert.
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  • - Robert: She is right.
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  • - Robert: We need each other.
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  • Even though Adam was already
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  • in relationship with God,
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  • God said to him, "It is not good
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  • for man to be alone.
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  • I'll make a helper suitable
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  • for him."
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  • There was also a need
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  • for human companionship.
  • 00:10:35.160 --> 00:10:37.200
  • I need my wife.
  • 00:10:37.200 --> 00:10:39.000
  • I need her help
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  • and her friendship.
  • 00:10:40.080 --> 00:10:41.230
  • I also need her differences
  • 00:10:41.230 --> 00:10:44.190
  • but although I need her,
  • 00:10:44.190 --> 00:10:46.040
  • she does not complete me,
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  • that's just a movie myth.
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  • The only person who completes us
  • 00:10:50.220 --> 00:10:53.110
  • is God.
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  • The Bible says you are complete
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  • in him.
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  • Only a relationship
  • 00:10:58.230 --> 00:11:00.120
  • with Jesus Christ
  • 00:11:00.120 --> 00:11:01.110
  • can make us whole.
  • 00:11:01.110 --> 00:11:02.230
  • To use our bridge analogy,
  • 00:11:02.230 --> 00:11:04.140
  • God and humanity come from
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  • completely different
  • 00:11:07.020 --> 00:11:08.190
  • and opposite shores,
  • 00:11:08.190 --> 00:11:10.070
  • heaven and earth.
  • 00:11:10.070 --> 00:11:12.060
  • The cross of Christ
  • 00:11:12.060 --> 00:11:13.180
  • bridge the gap.
  • 00:11:13.180 --> 00:11:15.090
  • The cross is like the arch
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  • of the Sydney Harbor Bridge.
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  • It holds the entire weight
  • 00:11:19.110 --> 00:11:21.060
  • of the bridge.
  • 00:11:21.060 --> 00:11:22.050
  • It supports the whole structure,
  • 00:11:22.050 --> 00:11:24.070
  • everything, including the
  • 00:11:24.070 --> 00:11:26.090
  • roadway, hangs off the arch.
  • 00:11:26.110 --> 00:11:29.110
  • This is a picture
  • 00:11:29.110 --> 00:11:30.040
  • of our human relationships.
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  • My marriage is like
  • 00:11:32.030 --> 00:11:33.070
  • the two-way road.
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  • We come from different
  • 00:11:34.220 --> 00:11:36.010
  • backgrounds from opposite
  • 00:11:36.010 --> 00:11:37.210
  • perspectives and we connect in
  • 00:11:37.210 --> 00:11:40.100
  • the middle but our strength
  • 00:11:40.100 --> 00:11:42.080
  • comes from the arch above us.
  • 00:11:42.080 --> 00:11:44.170
  • Without the overarching cross,
  • 00:11:44.170 --> 00:11:47.010
  • all human relationships
  • 00:11:47.010 --> 00:11:49.070
  • will ultimately fail.
  • 00:11:49.070 --> 00:11:51.160
  • If you and I are gonna build
  • 00:11:51.160 --> 00:11:52.240
  • strong relationships, whether
  • 00:11:52.240 --> 00:11:54.150
  • with colleagues or friends,
  • 00:11:54.150 --> 00:11:56.070
  • whether we're married or not,
  • 00:11:56.070 --> 00:11:57.230
  • our strength and wholeness
  • 00:11:57.230 --> 00:11:59.180
  • must come from Jesus Christ.
  • 00:11:59.180 --> 00:12:02.130
  • So, bridges are necessary,
  • 00:12:02.130 --> 00:12:04.270
  • both to God and to each other,
  • 00:12:04.270 --> 00:12:07.010
  • but why are they so important?
  • 00:12:07.010 --> 00:12:09.080
  • - Robert: Why does a community
  • 00:12:14.030 --> 00:12:15.100
  • or an individual commit
  • 00:12:15.100 --> 00:12:17.130
  • to the effort and the expense
  • 00:12:17.130 --> 00:12:19.210
  • of building a bridge?
  • 00:12:19.210 --> 00:12:21.140
  • What drives us?
  • 00:12:21.140 --> 00:12:23.110
  • As we've seen,
  • 00:12:23.110 --> 00:12:24.080
  • bridges do two things,
  • 00:12:24.080 --> 00:12:26.050
  • they overcome obstacles
  • 00:12:26.050 --> 00:12:27.280
  • and provide passage.
  • 00:12:27.280 --> 00:12:30.040
  • They remove a negative
  • 00:12:30.040 --> 00:12:31.250
  • and add a positive.
  • 00:12:31.250 --> 00:12:33.210
  • So, firstly, we build bridges
  • 00:12:33.210 --> 00:12:35.240
  • because it is not good
  • 00:12:35.240 --> 00:12:37.190
  • to be disconnected.
  • 00:12:37.190 --> 00:12:39.080
  • And secondly, we build bridges
  • 00:12:39.080 --> 00:12:41.060
  • because it is good
  • 00:12:41.060 --> 00:12:42.130
  • to be connected.
  • 00:12:42.130 --> 00:12:43.260
  • We build bridges because
  • 00:12:43.260 --> 00:12:45.130
  • we're weak if we lack them
  • 00:12:45.130 --> 00:12:47.130
  • and strong if we have them.
  • 00:12:47.130 --> 00:12:49.230
  • Let's have a look at the
  • 00:12:49.230 --> 00:12:51.080
  • - Robert: Nelson Mandela, the
  • 00:12:55.240 --> 00:12:57.040
  • former South African president,
  • 00:12:57.040 --> 00:12:59.200
  • spent 27 years in prison,
  • 00:13:00.150 --> 00:13:03.150
  • some of that time
  • 00:13:03.150 --> 00:13:04.160
  • in solitary confinement.
  • 00:13:04.160 --> 00:13:06.060
  • He concluded that nothing was
  • 00:13:06.060 --> 00:13:09.010
  • more dehumanizing than isolation
  • 00:13:09.010 --> 00:13:11.260
  • from human companionship.
  • 00:13:11.260 --> 00:13:14.060
  • Isolation is not only
  • 00:13:14.060 --> 00:13:15.290
  • dehumanizing, it is destructive.
  • 00:13:16.160 --> 00:13:19.160
  • In the 19th century, a prison
  • 00:13:19.160 --> 00:13:21.180
  • was built at Port Arthur
  • 00:13:21.180 --> 00:13:23.080
  • in Tasmania, Australia.
  • 00:13:23.080 --> 00:13:25.190
  • It was common at the time
  • 00:13:25.190 --> 00:13:27.060
  • to put prisoners
  • 00:13:27.060 --> 00:13:28.140
  • in solitary confinement
  • 00:13:28.140 --> 00:13:30.180
  • in order to reform them.
  • 00:13:30.180 --> 00:13:32.240
  • When they exercised, they had to
  • 00:13:32.240 --> 00:13:35.090
  • wear a hood in order to conceal
  • 00:13:35.090 --> 00:13:37.030
  • their identity and prevent
  • 00:13:37.030 --> 00:13:39.060
  • any form of human communication
  • 00:13:39.060 --> 00:13:42.000
  • or contact.
  • 00:13:42.000 --> 00:13:43.230
  • Eventually, the authorities had
  • 00:13:43.230 --> 00:13:46.070
  • to build a mental asylum
  • 00:13:46.070 --> 00:13:48.000
  • next to the prison because,
  • 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:49.270
  • as one guide said to me,
  • 00:13:49.270 --> 00:13:51.230
  • after months of silent
  • 00:13:51.230 --> 00:13:54.010
  • repetitive incarceration,
  • 00:13:54.010 --> 00:13:56.050
  • some men lost their sense
  • 00:13:56.050 --> 00:13:57.240
  • of reality.
  • 00:13:57.240 --> 00:13:59.050
  • Two out of every five
  • 00:13:59.050 --> 00:14:01.110
  • were classified as insane.
  • 00:14:01.120 --> 00:14:04.120
  • I don't think it is incidental
  • 00:14:04.120 --> 00:14:06.160
  • that the man from Gadara,
  • 00:14:06.160 --> 00:14:08.130
  • who Jesus set free,
  • 00:14:08.130 --> 00:14:10.010
  • was described as someone
  • 00:14:10.010 --> 00:14:11.260
  • who had been driven by
  • 00:14:11.260 --> 00:14:13.100
  • the demon to solitary places.
  • 00:14:13.110 --> 00:14:16.110
  • After all, God said it is not
  • 00:14:16.110 --> 00:14:18.200
  • good for the man to be alone.
  • 00:14:19.220 --> 00:14:22.220
  • We are not designed
  • 00:14:22.220 --> 00:14:24.100
  • for solitary formation.
  • 00:14:24.100 --> 00:14:26.090
  • We need each other.
  • 00:14:26.090 --> 00:14:27.230
  • We need community.
  • 00:14:27.230 --> 00:14:29.150
  • We need a sense of belonging.
  • 00:14:29.150 --> 00:14:31.170
  • We need bridges.
  • 00:14:31.170 --> 00:14:33.120
  • We don't thrive
  • 00:14:33.120 --> 00:14:34.230
  • in a disconnected environment.
  • 00:14:34.230 --> 00:14:37.190
  • Natural and relational bridges
  • 00:14:37.190 --> 00:14:39.160
  • overcome the chasm of loneliness
  • 00:14:39.260 --> 00:14:42.260
  • that is so common
  • 00:14:42.260 --> 00:14:44.120
  • in our society,
  • 00:14:44.120 --> 00:14:45.230
  • in which I experienced
  • 00:14:45.230 --> 00:14:47.120
  • when I moved to another country.
  • 00:14:47.120 --> 00:14:49.240
  • So, bridges remove the negatives
  • 00:14:50.120 --> 00:14:53.120
  • but what about the positive
  • 00:14:53.120 --> 00:14:55.040
  • - Robert: Bridges don't just
  • 00:14:59.090 --> 00:15:00.160
  • overcome the obstacles
  • 00:15:00.160 --> 00:15:02.070
  • of disconnection, they provide
  • 00:15:02.070 --> 00:15:04.150
  • the benefits of connection.
  • 00:15:04.150 --> 00:15:06.290
  • Bridges satisfy deepfelt
  • 00:15:06.290 --> 00:15:09.100
  • human needs.
  • 00:15:09.100 --> 00:15:10.220
  • We need objects of beauty,
  • 00:15:10.220 --> 00:15:12.180
  • places of devotion,
  • 00:15:12.180 --> 00:15:14.160
  • something of value to defend.
  • 00:15:14.180 --> 00:15:17.180
  • Bridges meet those needs.
  • 00:15:17.180 --> 00:15:19.270
  • The Golden Gate Bridge,
  • 00:15:19.270 --> 00:15:21.130
  • for instance, is beautiful.
  • 00:15:21.130 --> 00:15:23.040
  • It inspires us.
  • 00:15:23.040 --> 00:15:25.100
  • The Bridge of the Holy Spirit
  • 00:15:25.100 --> 00:15:26.290
  • in France is a place of devotion
  • 00:15:26.290 --> 00:15:29.170
  • built in the Middle Ages
  • 00:15:29.170 --> 00:15:31.060
  • by Christian brothers.
  • 00:15:31.060 --> 00:15:33.050
  • They would gather
  • 00:15:33.050 --> 00:15:34.090
  • to build these bridges in order
  • 00:15:34.090 --> 00:15:36.070
  • to connect communities.
  • 00:15:36.070 --> 00:15:39.070
  • The devotion of bridges
  • 00:15:39.070 --> 00:15:40.070
  • is still significant.
  • 00:15:40.070 --> 00:15:42.010
  • The Pope, for instance,
  • 00:15:42.010 --> 00:15:43.070
  • is called the pontiff,
  • 00:15:43.070 --> 00:15:45.070
  • the bridge maker.
  • 00:15:45.070 --> 00:15:46.220
  • The Ponte Vecchio in Florence
  • 00:15:46.220 --> 00:15:49.080
  • is highly valued.
  • 00:15:49.080 --> 00:15:51.200
  • My father nearly died in the
  • 00:15:51.200 --> 00:15:53.090
  • Second World War defending it.
  • 00:15:53.090 --> 00:15:55.140
  • If natural bridges are so
  • 00:15:55.140 --> 00:15:57.260
  • prized, how much more should
  • 00:15:57.280 --> 00:16:01.000
  • we fight for our life bridges,
  • 00:16:01.000 --> 00:16:03.070
  • our relationships?
  • 00:16:03.070 --> 00:16:05.010
  • Like natural bridges,
  • 00:16:05.010 --> 00:16:06.160
  • they connect
  • 00:16:06.160 --> 00:16:07.120
  • and protect communities.
  • 00:16:07.120 --> 00:16:09.280
  • They are vital
  • 00:16:09.280 --> 00:16:10.200
  • to our well-being.
  • 00:16:10.200 --> 00:16:12.100
  • They attract God's blessing.
  • 00:16:12.100 --> 00:16:14.080
  • They increase our survival.
  • 00:16:14.080 --> 00:16:16.220
  • They even inspire effectiveness.
  • 00:16:16.220 --> 00:16:19.200
  • As the Bible puts it,
  • 00:16:19.200 --> 00:16:21.000
  • two are better than one
  • 00:16:21.000 --> 00:16:23.110
  • because they have a good return
  • 00:16:23.110 --> 00:16:25.070
  • for their work,
  • 00:16:25.070 --> 00:16:27.120
  • but how do we apply this?
  • 00:16:27.120 --> 00:16:28.230
  • How do we build bridges
  • 00:16:28.230 --> 00:16:30.120
  • with one another?
  • 00:16:30.120 --> 00:16:31.170
  • How did our family intentionally
  • 00:16:31.170 --> 00:16:33.200
  • build a bridge
  • 00:16:33.200 --> 00:16:34.180
  • - Robert: After the break,
  • 00:16:39.080 --> 00:16:40.110
  • we're going to speak to some
  • 00:16:40.110 --> 00:16:41.130
  • of my friends.
  • 00:16:41.130 --> 00:16:42.240
  • When my family first came
  • 00:16:42.240 --> 00:16:44.170
  • to Australia, we faced some
  • 00:16:44.170 --> 00:16:46.130
  • unexpected isolation
  • 00:16:46.130 --> 00:16:48.080
  • as our key friends and family
  • 00:16:48.080 --> 00:16:50.080
  • were back in England.
  • 00:16:50.080 --> 00:16:51.220
  • What can we learn about
  • 00:16:51.220 --> 00:16:52.290
  • overcoming loneliness and
  • 00:16:52.290 --> 00:16:54.270
  • the importance and significance
  • 00:16:54.270 --> 00:16:56.260
  • - Robert: I'm here with
  • 00:17:06.050 --> 00:17:07.080
  • our church small group
  • 00:17:07.080 --> 00:17:09.030
  • with my wife, Amanda,
  • 00:17:09.030 --> 00:17:10.170
  • and friends Don, and Hazel,
  • 00:17:10.170 --> 00:17:13.000
  • and Jay, and Brooklyn,
  • 00:17:13.000 --> 00:17:14.090
  • and we're gonna talk about
  • 00:17:14.090 --> 00:17:15.160
  • So, Jay, why is a small group
  • 00:17:18.270 --> 00:17:21.270
  • - Jay Argaet: One of the things
  • 00:17:24.040 --> 00:17:24.230
  • that I found the most fruitful
  • 00:17:24.230 --> 00:17:26.100
  • is the journey that you guys
  • 00:17:26.100 --> 00:17:28.040
  • have already walked ahead
  • 00:17:28.040 --> 00:17:29.240
  • of what I have.
  • 00:17:29.240 --> 00:17:30.250
  • We got married 11 months ago.
  • 00:17:30.250 --> 00:17:32.100
  • When I met with you guys,
  • 00:17:32.100 --> 00:17:34.150
  • you guys were about to celebrate
  • 00:17:34.150 --> 00:17:35.200
  • and I remember thinking
  • 00:17:37.220 --> 00:17:39.040
  • at that dinner table
  • 00:17:39.040 --> 00:17:40.170
  • how incredible that I can
  • 00:17:40.170 --> 00:17:42.150
  • glean off your failures,
  • 00:17:42.150 --> 00:17:44.230
  • - Robert: And there have been
  • 00:17:46.260 --> 00:17:47.200
  • lots of those.
  • 00:17:47.200 --> 00:17:49.030
  • - Jay: But I remember leaving
  • 00:17:49.030 --> 00:17:50.200
  • that day like driving home
  • 00:17:50.200 --> 00:17:52.040
  • feeling such a sense of peace
  • 00:17:52.040 --> 00:17:53.070
  • because I--going into it
  • 00:17:53.070 --> 00:17:55.070
  • actually I was feeling like
  • 00:17:55.070 --> 00:17:56.110
  • I had to be this perfect person.
  • 00:17:56.110 --> 00:17:58.070
  • - Robert: I remember that
  • 00:17:58.070 --> 00:17:59.030
  • and you said, "I realized
  • 00:17:59.030 --> 00:18:00.210
  • that I didn't have to have
  • 00:18:00.210 --> 00:18:02.000
  • all the answers,"
  • 00:18:02.000 --> 00:18:03.040
  • and just to be able to talk
  • 00:18:03.040 --> 00:18:04.120
  • about those sort of things
  • 00:18:04.120 --> 00:18:05.180
  • with someone who'd been there
  • 00:18:05.180 --> 00:18:08.030
  • and still didn't have
  • 00:18:08.030 --> 00:18:08.240
  • all the answers was actually
  • 00:18:08.240 --> 00:18:10.130
  • a really good thing.
  • 00:18:10.130 --> 00:18:12.050
  • - Brooklyn Argaet: And I think
  • 00:18:12.050 --> 00:18:12.240
  • that's where the value of being
  • 00:18:12.240 --> 00:18:14.240
  • in community with people
  • 00:18:14.240 --> 00:18:15.200
  • in a small group,
  • 00:18:15.200 --> 00:18:16.140
  • getting wisdom from
  • 00:18:16.140 --> 00:18:17.210
  • other people's life experience,
  • 00:18:17.210 --> 00:18:18.210
  • and I never would have gotten
  • 00:18:18.210 --> 00:18:20.060
  • that working out my journey
  • 00:18:20.130 --> 00:18:23.130
  • in isolation.
  • 00:18:23.130 --> 00:18:24.180
  • - Robert: And I think it's a
  • 00:18:24.180 --> 00:18:25.110
  • decision we've all gotta make.
  • 00:18:25.110 --> 00:18:26.160
  • And just having a determination,
  • 00:18:26.160 --> 00:18:29.030
  • and a commitment,
  • 00:18:29.030 --> 00:18:30.060
  • and an intentionality,
  • 00:18:30.060 --> 00:18:31.240
  • and a measure of vulnerability
  • 00:18:31.240 --> 00:18:34.040
  • about building relationships
  • 00:18:34.040 --> 00:18:35.100
  • is really cool.
  • 00:18:35.100 --> 00:18:37.020
  • And certainly, that's how we
  • 00:18:37.020 --> 00:18:38.270
  • felt when we first arrived.
  • 00:18:38.270 --> 00:18:40.100
  • We first arrived in Australia
  • 00:18:40.100 --> 00:18:42.050
  • about 26 years ago.
  • 00:18:42.050 --> 00:18:44.240
  • So, what was that like?
  • 00:18:44.240 --> 00:18:47.040
  • Tell us.
  • 00:18:47.040 --> 00:18:48.020
  • - Amanda: I'd left a lot of
  • 00:18:48.020 --> 00:18:49.000
  • good friends in England,
  • 00:18:49.000 --> 00:18:50.260
  • and I thought I didn't really
  • 00:18:50.260 --> 00:18:52.060
  • need to bother too much
  • 00:18:52.060 --> 00:18:54.000
  • about building friendships,
  • 00:18:54.000 --> 00:18:55.290
  • that I would work
  • 00:18:55.290 --> 00:18:57.230
  • with the students and just, you
  • 00:18:57.230 --> 00:18:59.180
  • know, have my friends back home.
  • 00:18:59.180 --> 00:19:01.190
  • But I discovered very quickly
  • 00:19:01.190 --> 00:19:03.230
  • that I needed friends here.
  • 00:19:03.230 --> 00:19:06.140
  • And so, I had to really look
  • 00:19:07.060 --> 00:19:10.060
  • for friends among the people
  • 00:19:10.060 --> 00:19:13.000
  • I worked with.
  • 00:19:13.000 --> 00:19:14.050
  • And we would meet every Friday
  • 00:19:14.050 --> 00:19:15.270
  • afternoon for a cup of tea,
  • 00:19:15.270 --> 00:19:18.110
  • not knowing each other at all,
  • 00:19:18.110 --> 00:19:19.190
  • but deliberately building
  • 00:19:19.190 --> 00:19:21.240
  • a relationship.
  • 00:19:21.240 --> 00:19:23.010
  • - Robert: You'd come from
  • 00:19:23.010 --> 00:19:24.010
  • South Africa a few years
  • 00:19:24.010 --> 00:19:26.010
  • before us to move to Australia.
  • 00:19:26.010 --> 00:19:28.130
  • How intentional were you
  • 00:19:28.130 --> 00:19:29.240
  • when you arrived from
  • 00:19:29.240 --> 00:19:31.290
  • another nation to form these
  • 00:19:31.290 --> 00:19:34.030
  • - Hazel Cooper-Williams:
  • 00:19:36.050 --> 00:19:36.270
  • Very intentional.
  • 00:19:36.270 --> 00:19:37.250
  • What we found was amazing was
  • 00:19:37.250 --> 00:19:39.200
  • that became the people we'd
  • 00:19:42.120 --> 00:19:44.280
  • leave behind, you know,
  • 00:19:44.280 --> 00:19:46.090
  • which was such a blessing.
  • 00:19:46.090 --> 00:19:48.090
  • - Robert: You can't predict
  • 00:19:48.090 --> 00:19:50.040
  • these things.
  • 00:19:50.040 --> 00:19:51.060
  • And I think it means such a lot
  • 00:19:51.060 --> 00:19:54.020
  • because every life
  • 00:19:54.020 --> 00:19:56.110
  • needs encouragement.
  • 00:19:56.110 --> 00:19:57.240
  • We need encouragement.
  • 00:19:57.240 --> 00:19:59.130
  • I need encouragement.
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  • I remember when my mother died
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  • when I was in Australia,
  • 00:20:02.230 --> 00:20:04.050
  • she was in England,
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  • and you draw on friendships
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  • that much more.
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  • - Don Cooper-Williams: I think
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  • that's very true.
  • 00:20:10.120 --> 00:20:11.100
  • The connect group allows you
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  • to drop masks.
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  • - Jay: Like, especially being
  • 00:20:15.180 --> 00:20:18.100
  • in a younger generation
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  • where social media is like such
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  • the way that people communicate
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  • now and unfortunately,
  • 00:20:23.260 --> 00:20:25.140
  • a lot of that is the opposite.
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  • It's actually building
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  • a perception of who you are
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  • in a mask.
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  • - Robert: I think actually a
  • 00:20:30.270 --> 00:20:31.230
  • number of years ago in our small
  • 00:20:31.230 --> 00:20:33.060
  • group, we decided we actually
  • 00:20:33.060 --> 00:20:34.270
  • need to eat together.
  • 00:20:34.270 --> 00:20:36.070
  • And we live in such
  • 00:20:36.070 --> 00:20:37.110
  • a frenetic fast-paced world
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  • where we just have no time.
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  • - Amanda: It takes time to
  • 00:20:41.270 --> 00:20:44.140
  • build safe relationships.
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  • I think what Jay is saying
  • 00:20:46.110 --> 00:20:48.280
  • is really interesting,
  • 00:20:48.280 --> 00:20:50.090
  • the idea of so often
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  • with social media,
  • 00:20:52.240 --> 00:20:53.240
  • we're either projecting a mask
  • 00:20:53.240 --> 00:20:55.230
  • or we're over sharing
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  • inappropriately with
  • 00:20:57.130 --> 00:20:59.260
  • too many people.
  • 00:20:59.260 --> 00:21:01.050
  • To actually be vulnerable costs.
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  • It costs a bit of pride.
  • 00:21:03.280 --> 00:21:06.080
  • It costs you to trust
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  • and you can't do that
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  • with your 500 Facebook friends.
  • 00:21:09.200 --> 00:21:12.010
  • - Don: The group has been
  • 00:21:12.010 --> 00:21:12.240
  • very important for me.
  • 00:21:12.240 --> 00:21:13.260
  • If you remember,
  • 00:21:13.260 --> 00:21:15.190
  • about 15 years ago,
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  • I lost my job.
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  • And I expected, because of all
  • 00:21:19.240 --> 00:21:22.020
  • of my connections, that I would
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  • find a new job within weeks.
  • 00:21:23.140 --> 00:21:25.280
  • Well, it was not so.
  • 00:21:26.040 --> 00:21:29.040
  • It lasted 11 months.
  • 00:21:29.040 --> 00:21:31.230
  • And by nature,
  • 00:21:31.230 --> 00:21:34.040
  • I'm a gregarious person.
  • 00:21:34.040 --> 00:21:35.180
  • I love being
  • 00:21:35.180 --> 00:21:36.170
  • around people, getting into
  • 00:21:36.170 --> 00:21:37.210
  • conversation, learning.
  • 00:21:37.210 --> 00:21:39.100
  • And all of a sudden, all of that
  • 00:21:39.100 --> 00:21:41.090
  • was removed from me so my only
  • 00:21:41.090 --> 00:21:44.070
  • point of real conversation
  • 00:21:44.070 --> 00:21:47.010
  • was the group.
  • 00:21:47.010 --> 00:21:48.150
  • And the wonderful thing about it
  • 00:21:48.150 --> 00:21:50.200
  • was is that everybody knew that
  • 00:21:50.200 --> 00:21:52.250
  • I was without work and but they
  • 00:21:52.250 --> 00:21:55.150
  • didn't ask that question that
  • 00:21:55.150 --> 00:21:56.290
  • everybody asked, "Well, have you
  • 00:21:56.290 --> 00:21:58.030
  • got a job again?"
  • 00:21:58.030 --> 00:21:59.150
  • And included me in the
  • 00:21:59.150 --> 00:22:02.100
  • conversation as if nothing
  • 00:22:02.100 --> 00:22:04.270
  • had changed.
  • 00:22:04.270 --> 00:22:05.280
  • And I found that that was
  • 00:22:05.280 --> 00:22:07.130
  • the highlight of my week.
  • 00:22:07.130 --> 00:22:09.070
  • - Robert: How do we
  • 00:22:09.070 --> 00:22:10.020
  • encourage people to become
  • 00:22:10.020 --> 00:22:11.090
  • more intentional?
  • 00:22:11.090 --> 00:22:12.140
  • - Hazel: I think you have
  • 00:22:12.140 --> 00:22:13.050
  • to step out
  • 00:22:13.050 --> 00:22:14.000
  • and actually join a group,
  • 00:22:14.000 --> 00:22:15.190
  • pray about the right group,
  • 00:22:15.190 --> 00:22:17.080
  • and be intentional about it.
  • 00:22:18.000 --> 00:22:21.000
  • - Amanda: Take a risk.
  • 00:22:21.000 --> 00:22:22.060
  • You always risk rejection
  • 00:22:22.060 --> 00:22:23.160
  • with friendships.
  • 00:22:23.160 --> 00:22:24.250
  • Not everybody wants to be
  • 00:22:24.250 --> 00:22:26.200
  • your friend.
  • 00:22:26.200 --> 00:22:27.240
  • - Robert: There's a great verse
  • 00:22:27.240 --> 00:22:28.280
  • in the Bible.
  • 00:22:28.280 --> 00:22:29.210
  • It says, "If you want friends,
  • 00:22:29.210 --> 00:22:30.200
  • be friendly."
  • 00:22:30.200 --> 00:22:32.040
  • And I think a lot of people
  • 00:22:32.040 --> 00:22:33.260
  • just don't follow that through.
  • 00:22:33.260 --> 00:22:35.190
  • They try something,
  • 00:22:35.190 --> 00:22:37.030
  • they get rejected,
  • 00:22:37.030 --> 00:22:38.110
  • and they don't persist.
  • 00:22:38.110 --> 00:22:39.180
  • - Brooklyn: And I think another
  • 00:22:39.180 --> 00:22:40.190
  • thing is you have to take a risk
  • 00:22:40.190 --> 00:22:42.080
  • and make a decision and
  • 00:22:42.080 --> 00:22:43.190
  • sometimes you don't feel it
  • 00:22:43.190 --> 00:22:45.210
  • right away.
  • 00:22:45.210 --> 00:22:46.180
  • You have to persist through
  • 00:22:46.180 --> 00:22:47.180
  • - Robert: In this episode,
  • 00:22:50.130 --> 00:22:51.130
  • we've discovered that
  • 00:22:51.130 --> 00:22:52.160
  • bridge-building,
  • 00:22:52.160 --> 00:22:53.130
  • natural and relational,
  • 00:22:53.130 --> 00:22:55.080
  • is vital to community
  • 00:22:55.080 --> 00:22:57.000
  • help and personal well-being.
  • 00:22:57.000 --> 00:22:59.050
  • We need bridges to avoid
  • 00:22:59.050 --> 00:23:01.030
  • isolation and embrace belonging.
  • 00:23:01.030 --> 00:23:03.170
  • But since bridges
  • 00:23:03.170 --> 00:23:05.130
  • connect opposites, we need
  • 00:23:05.130 --> 00:23:07.130
  • to engage with diversity,
  • 00:23:07.130 --> 00:23:09.150
  • not just seek commonality.
  • 00:23:09.150 --> 00:23:12.040
  • Nonetheless, our efforts are
  • 00:23:12.040 --> 00:23:14.010
  • useless if we don't involve God.
  • 00:23:14.010 --> 00:23:16.190
  • But how do we do that?
  • 00:23:16.190 --> 00:23:18.150
  • We need bridges to bring unity
  • 00:23:18.160 --> 00:23:21.160
  • We need bridges
  • 00:23:26.060 --> 00:23:27.080
  • We need bridges
  • 00:23:31.070 --> 00:23:32.170
  • - Robert: On my wall at home,
  • 00:23:38.200 --> 00:23:39.240
  • I have a picture of my daughter
  • 00:23:39.240 --> 00:23:41.140
  • standing on the banks
  • 00:23:41.140 --> 00:23:43.000
  • of the river Seine in Paris,
  • 00:23:43.000 --> 00:23:45.030
  • looking dreamily
  • 00:23:45.030 --> 00:23:46.090
  • at the Pont Neuf.
  • 00:23:46.090 --> 00:23:48.100
  • This famous bridge is a parable.
  • 00:23:48.100 --> 00:23:50.190
  • The bridge was built
  • 00:23:50.190 --> 00:23:52.010
  • over 400 years ago
  • 00:23:52.010 --> 00:23:53.240
  • to connect 2 sides of the river
  • 00:23:53.240 --> 00:23:56.010
  • in a physically and politically
  • 00:23:56.010 --> 00:23:58.090
  • divided city.
  • 00:23:58.090 --> 00:23:59.270
  • In the middle of the bridge
  • 00:23:59.270 --> 00:24:01.090
  • is an island and in the middle
  • 00:24:01.090 --> 00:24:03.080
  • of the island is the great
  • 00:24:03.080 --> 00:24:05.060
  • cathedral of Notre Dame.
  • 00:24:05.090 --> 00:24:08.090
  • The cross of Christ
  • 00:24:08.090 --> 00:24:10.000
  • and his church stands
  • 00:24:10.000 --> 00:24:11.270
  • at the center of the community.
  • 00:24:12.000 --> 00:24:15.000
  • As the message Bible beautifully
  • 00:24:15.000 --> 00:24:16.180
  • puts it, the church you see
  • 00:24:16.180 --> 00:24:18.280
  • is not peripheral to the world,
  • 00:24:18.290 --> 00:24:21.290
  • the world is peripheral
  • 00:24:21.290 --> 00:24:23.290
  • to the church.
  • 00:24:23.290 --> 00:24:25.150
  • Jesus Christ is the only
  • 00:24:25.150 --> 00:24:27.240
  • mediator between us and God.
  • 00:24:27.240 --> 00:24:30.090
  • He's the only one who can
  • 00:24:30.090 --> 00:24:31.210
  • bring us together.
  • 00:24:31.210 --> 00:24:33.000
  • He is the center
  • 00:24:33.000 --> 00:24:34.200
  • of our communities.
  • 00:24:34.200 --> 00:24:36.010
  • He is the arch of which
  • 00:24:36.010 --> 00:24:38.060
  • everything hangs.
  • 00:24:38.060 --> 00:24:39.190
  • He is the bridge of life and
  • 00:24:39.190 --> 00:24:42.050
  • you and I desperately need him.
  • 00:24:42.140 --> 00:24:45.140
  • Next time you cross a bridge,
  • 00:24:45.140 --> 00:24:47.200
  • stop for a second
  • 00:24:47.200 --> 00:24:49.110
  • and look at it differently.
  • 00:24:49.110 --> 00:24:51.150
  • What do you see?
  • 00:24:51.150 --> 00:24:52.230
  • What does it say to you
  • 00:24:52.230 --> 00:24:54.080
  • about how to live a life
  • 00:24:54.080 --> 00:24:56.040
  • which pleases God?
  • 00:24:56.040 --> 00:24:57.220
  • What does it teach you
  • 00:24:57.220 --> 00:24:58.290
  • about relationships?
  • 00:24:58.290 --> 00:25:00.170
  • How does it remind you
  • 00:25:00.170 --> 00:25:02.020
  • - Robert: Next time on
  • 00:25:07.070 --> 00:25:08.230
  • "What Do You See?"
  • 00:25:08.230 --> 00:25:11.010
  • We're going to continue
  • 00:25:11.010 --> 00:25:12.020
  • our series on bridges
  • 00:25:12.020 --> 00:25:13.220
  • and relationships and,
  • 00:25:13.220 --> 00:25:15.120
  • in particular, marriage.
  • 00:25:15.120 --> 00:25:17.140
  • No relationship is more
  • 00:25:17.140 --> 00:25:19.040
  • difficult or more fruitful.
  • 00:25:19.040 --> 00:25:21.160
  • In the next episode
  • 00:25:21.160 --> 00:25:22.200
  • of "What Do You See?"
  • 00:25:22.200 --> 00:25:24.120
  • We're gonna speak to my wife
  • 00:25:24.120 --> 00:25:26.120
  • and some friends of mine
  • 00:25:26.120 --> 00:25:28.010
  • and learn about building
  • 00:25:28.010 --> 00:25:29.180